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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. National security letters are a ticket to totalitarianism.
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:16 PM by RandomThoughts
And deserve what they get.

Seen the effect of such things, people can pass out that concept, and a person wrongly accused can be smeared, and with nobody telling him, he has no defense in the court of public opinion.

As far as other uses, I try to restrain anger, since obviously they are used for malicious purposes.

Since I still don't have beer do I.


Fuck um.



Side note, Google, according to media, were a group that would not go along with that concept, although since it was in news, it might mean they were the ones going along with that concept.

:shrug: But I heard the two sonic booms :)
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  -The Campaign Against Julian Assange sabrina 1  Aug-23-10 01:58 AM   #0 
  - K&R because facts do matter. (nt)  ConsAreLiars   Aug-23-10 02:50 AM   #1 
  - K&R. I hope he survives.  Greyhound   Aug-23-10 02:54 AM   #2 
  - He will need a lot of support in order to survive.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 04:29 AM   #3 
  - K&R Thanks for a really good overview of what went down, Sabrina.  Turborama   Aug-23-10 09:58 AM   #4 
  - Re the entry codes to the Insurance file, I think that might have been  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 12:36 PM   #5 
  - The reputation of the CIA is pretty bad around the world.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 02:36 PM   #6 
  - The accuser is now known  mogster   Aug-23-10 04:00 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 05:07 PM   #8 
  - Thanks for that observation  mogster   Aug-23-10 05:09 PM   #10 
  - What a ridiculous statement. She is not a victim. The rape  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 05:47 PM   #11 
     - No the fact that I could give a shit about assange  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 05:51 PM   #13 
     - This "give a shit" assertions of yours get funnier and funnier each time you post them. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-23-10 05:53 PM   #16 
     - "give a shit" = Open yahoo news...  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 05:55 PM   #17 
        - Did any of that happen? No. What the hell was that supposed to mean?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-23-10 05:58 PM   #19 
        - Please, keep your wank to yourself  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 06:08 PM   #23 
           - You know Pavulon  Caretha   Aug-23-10 09:06 PM   #57 
        - You have a vivid imagination, I'll say that for you. n/t  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 06:06 PM   #21 
        - Nah. Wish fulfillment fiction is seldom creative fiction. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-23-10 06:17 PM   #25 
        - See you two are to busy busting balls being insulting to read Legacy of Ashes..  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 06:37 PM   #28 
           - I have not been insulting, I have pointed out to you  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 06:58 PM   #30 
              - Depending on how you define murder.. They killed 20 people today  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:06 PM   #32 
                 - 'Just following orders'  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 07:12 PM   #34 
                    - Who issued those orders today?(nt)  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:35 PM   #42 
                       - What a waste of time. I have already told you I believe these  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 07:52 PM   #47 
                          - Which branch?  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:59 PM   #48 
                             - As if a U.S. president would ever be prosecuted at this point in  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 08:09 PM   #51 
        - dupe, delete  appal_jack   Aug-23-10 09:25 PM   #59 
        - yeah, whatever  appal_jack   Aug-23-10 09:25 PM   #60 
     - So, you don't give a shit about justice.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 05:57 PM   #18 
     - Speaking of French  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 06:06 PM   #22 
     - Welcome to the list of the enemies of the truth.  L0oniX   Aug-23-10 07:19 PM   #38 
     - Yeppers, I signed a 10 10 and  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:41 PM   #44 
        - Right ...so now you won't talk about your involvement with depleted uranium...  L0oniX   Aug-23-10 08:13 PM   #52 
           - Ha I design precision tooling equipment, mostly in Latin America  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 08:28 PM   #53 
              - No, that's not the only question.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 08:39 PM   #54 
                 - I work with other veterans and lots of conservatives  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 08:59 PM   #56 
                    - I would expect no less from Rightwingers. Which is why  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 09:46 PM   #64 
     - If you don't give a shit  sudopod   Aug-24-10 01:28 AM   #119 
     - Who is making these statements? My curiousity is begging me to ask --  truedelphi   Aug-25-10 05:21 PM   #134 
        - Wondered the same but was too late  chatnoir   Aug-25-10 05:35 PM   #135 
  - I think her name should be Anna Ardin  mogster   Aug-23-10 05:08 PM   #9 
     - "I think" and the name of a person claiming rape  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 05:48 PM   #12 
     - The rape accusation was dropped  mogster   Aug-24-10 01:05 AM   #115 
        - All sex charges dropped  mogster   Aug-25-10 03:22 PM   #133 
           - Thank you for the information.  sabrina 1   Aug-25-10 07:37 PM   #136 
     - Thanks for the link.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 05:51 PM   #14 
        - Probably not. Its a crime here to falsely accuse.  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 05:53 PM   #15 
           - Let's see, a whistle blower not yet identified, supplied papers  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 06:03 PM   #20 
              - Manning will not die a broken man in Florence for whistle blowing  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 06:14 PM   #24 
                 - 'Governments lie, thats their job'!  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 06:26 PM   #26 
                    - Are you an adult, do you live in western europe on the American continent  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 06:33 PM   #27 
                       - I asked you one thing, just one quote from some reputable person  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 06:52 PM   #29 
                          - see that, raise you..Google National Security Letter, thank you and good night...  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:02 PM   #31 
                             - I have no idea what you're talking about. You are not making  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 07:09 PM   #33 
                             - You can be compelled to lie  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:14 PM   #36 
                                - No you can't be made to lie, you can agree to lie by an order by a system  RandomThoughts   Aug-23-10 07:18 PM   #37 
                                - You can make a choice  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:33 PM   #40 
                                   - Yep they can ruin your life by turning you into a liar for them.  RandomThoughts   Aug-24-10 10:13 AM   #128 
                                - You mean they, like any criminal, can threaten you and your  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 07:20 PM   #39 
                                   - The FBI used them, those were DOMESTIC tools  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:34 PM   #41 
                                      - They HAVE such restrictions. The laws of OTHER countries  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 07:47 PM   #45 
                                         - And yet our embassies still have CIA staff there...  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 08:00 PM   #49 
                             - National security letters are a ticket to totalitarianism.  RandomThoughts   Aug-23-10 07:13 PM   #35 
                                - No the letter means if you are an ISP employee  Pavulon   Aug-23-10 07:37 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 07:48 PM   #46 
  - I think your questions were answered by the prosecutor.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 08:05 PM   #50 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 09:27 PM   #61 
        - My report is not at odds  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 01:16 AM   #116 
  - I didn't have internet access the day that this "story" broke  me b zola   Aug-23-10 08:42 PM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 09:19 PM   #58 
  - That is a false statement. He is not charged with  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 09:35 PM   #62 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 09:43 PM   #63 
        - Are you capable of reading?  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 09:58 PM   #65 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 10:09 PM   #68 
              - Accused and charged are two different things.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:04 PM   #70 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:10 PM   #72 
                 - so far the victim is Assange  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:26 PM   #75 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:31 PM   #78 
                    - I wonder how you would react if you were in the crosshairs of war criminals  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:34 PM   #82 
                 - Give it up. That old tactic doesn't work anymore.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:32 PM   #80 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:39 PM   #85 
                 - I predict a Western movie.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-24-10 01:59 AM   #121 
              - welcome to DU  2 Much Tribulation   Aug-23-10 11:08 PM   #71 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:18 PM   #74 
                 - of which you know nothing  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:27 PM   #77 
              - The woman was not his employee  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:17 PM   #73 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:26 PM   #76 
                 - the accuser is neither his subordinate nor his employee  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:31 PM   #79 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:32 PM   #81 
                    - read the statement of the chief prosecutor  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:38 PM   #84 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:41 PM   #86 
                          - word is he didn't want to use a condom  reorg   Aug-23-10 11:50 PM   #91 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:04 AM   #95 
                                - I was an admirer of Valerie Solanas before you were born  reorg   Aug-24-10 12:17 AM   #99 
                                   - Omg!  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:36 AM   #112 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:41 AM   #114 
                 - Except she was not his subordinate. Maybe you should  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:45 PM   #88 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:57 PM   #92 
                       - Rotfl, I think you're very funny.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:02 AM   #94 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:06 AM   #96 
                          - Oh, I couldn't agree more.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:18 AM   #100 
                             - it increasingly happens to me  reorg   Aug-24-10 12:26 AM   #106 
                                - Oh yes, brilliant actually. A perfect stereotypical imitation of the real thing.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 06:10 AM   #127 
                          - That was hilarious.  EFerrari   Aug-24-10 12:07 AM   #97 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:20 AM   #101 
                             - You have quite an imagination there.  EFerrari   Aug-24-10 12:24 AM   #104 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:27 AM   #107 
                                - Well, lock the door and hope they don't have blasters. nt  EFerrari   Aug-24-10 12:31 AM   #111 
                             - Oh stop, why do I hear violins?  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:27 AM   #108 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:30 AM   #110 
                                   - I know, don't remind me! I am a 'modren descendent of the  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:37 AM   #113 
                                   - Yes, keep with the personal attacks.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-24-10 02:00 AM   #122 
                             - It was! I'm still laughing ...  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:21 AM   #102 
                                - If I ever need a destroyer of womankind, I hope it's okay to pm you.  EFerrari   Aug-24-10 12:25 AM   #105 
                                   - Lol, feel free, but I can't guarantee anything, I'm still getting  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:29 AM   #109 
                                      - Do those new powers come with a cape and spandex body suit?  tsuki   Aug-24-10 03:52 AM   #125 
                                         - Don't tell anyone, but I was so moved  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 05:58 AM   #126 
              - The prosecutor who spoke to the NYT confirming  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 01:20 AM   #117 
  - That was my reaction also. And even before the charges were  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 10:01 PM   #66 
  - The Powers-That-Be Fear Truth  Octafish   Aug-23-10 10:03 PM   #67 
  - Yes, he will need to be very careful. But Bush and friends  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:49 PM   #90 
  - I think it's quite clear who first brought up his name  reorg   Aug-23-10 10:46 PM   #69 
  - Where did she get her degree in 'getting revenge'?  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:37 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-23-10 11:42 PM   #87 
     - Absolutely, but the powerful may have screwed up this time.  sabrina 1   Aug-23-10 11:47 PM   #89 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:02 AM   #93 
           - You really love that word, don't you?  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 12:12 AM   #98 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:23 AM   #103 
                 - No, no need for omniscience if you have basic reading skills.  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 01:37 AM   #120 
                    - The prosecutor must be a Destroyer of Womankind too. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-24-10 02:12 AM   #123 
                       - Lol! We are a global force! n/t  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 03:25 AM   #124 
  - Fascinating discussion at the nicolas mead link...  chatnoir   Aug-24-10 02:56 PM   #132 
  - K & R nt  laughingliberal   Aug-24-10 01:25 AM   #118 
     - "I was not aware that Julian was married, but read today that he is a father of two"  jeff47   Aug-24-10 12:27 PM   #129 
        - Huh. A strange answer to K&R. nt  laughingliberal   Aug-24-10 01:18 PM   #130 
        - Lol, no, I really thought nothing worked unless you had that  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 01:36 PM   #131 
 

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