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Sat Aug-21-10 02:19 PM
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| 32. It will take MUCH worse. Society has been conditioned to demonize victims for decades now |
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As a society, we spit on the victims of economic injustice and hoist the perpetrators up on our shoulders. The latter being a good trick, considering our shoulders are already holding up the whole top economic brackets as the gap widens to an oily gulf.
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| -How bad does it have to get ? |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 12:45 PM |
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How many Non-Reported Suicides ?????! |
RagAss |
Aug-21-10 12:46 PM |
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The people that kill them don't care. |
RandomThoughts |
Aug-21-10 12:51 PM |
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Controlled Resistance |
Mark D. |
Aug-22-10 12:12 PM |
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Just as bad as March 1933 or worse |
steve2470 |
Aug-21-10 12:52 PM |
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Hard numbers? U6 at or near 40%... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-21-10 01:01 PM |
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what is U6 and U3 ? nt |
steve2470 |
Aug-21-10 01:03 PM |
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Measures... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-21-10 01:05 PM |
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ok thanks for the info nt |
steve2470 |
Aug-21-10 01:06 PM |
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It will take MUCH worse. Society has been conditioned to demonize victims for decades now |
havocmom |
Aug-21-10 02:19 PM |
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+1 |
sendero |
Aug-21-10 06:21 PM |
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My comment to all who bitch about taxes helping the poor was |
Curmudgeoness |
Aug-21-10 12:53 PM |
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There should be more organization state-wide to help the growing problem |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-21-10 12:53 PM |
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In California, the state government's hands are tied. |
JDPriestly |
Aug-22-10 10:57 AM |
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K&R. Good questions. //nt |
Overseas |
Aug-21-10 12:55 PM |
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All good reasons to live in a commune |
txlibdem |
Aug-21-10 12:58 PM |
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I couldn't find any argument with Joe Bageant after reading his latest blog entry |
eleny |
Aug-21-10 12:59 PM |
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Joe Bageant's people... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-21-10 01:03 PM |
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He points out that the puppet masters behind the tea party scene are the GOP |
eleny |
Aug-21-10 01:38 PM |
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Wow...thank you for posting this! |
Raksha |
Aug-21-10 05:39 PM |
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I hope his new book gets released in the U.S. soon |
eleny |
Aug-21-10 06:11 PM |
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Torches and pitchforks.. |
sendero |
Aug-21-10 06:22 PM |
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unemployment rose again and the 99ers are hung out to dry |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-21-10 01:03 PM |
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They really have to do something |
prolesunited |
Aug-21-10 10:51 PM |
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Or an emergency early entry program for SS and medicare. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-22-10 08:39 AM |
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Nation-wide marches, candle-lit vigils, riots, arrests, deaths/murders. If history is any predictor. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-21-10 01:05 PM |
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Yep. This is what it will take.................. |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-22-10 11:02 AM |
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how much have you paid to help? After all we fund the government's help |
stray cat |
Aug-21-10 01:08 PM |
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What do you want Congress to do? n/t |
earthside |
Aug-21-10 01:35 PM |
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I'm afraid Congress is not capabale of doing anything. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 01:44 PM |
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Why would they care? |
DJ13 |
Aug-21-10 01:43 PM |
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How many homeless, hungry dying, etc.? |
Barack2theFuture |
Aug-21-10 01:46 PM |
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This election, and the policies that have followed have made things crystal clear to me. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-21-10 01:46 PM |
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What the fucking hell are you talking about? |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 01:47 PM |
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Huh? |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 01:50 PM |
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Aug-21-10 02:09 PM |
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Aug-21-10 02:11 PM |
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So they were teaser bargaining chips to begin with? You applaud giving them up for bi-partisanship? |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 02:17 PM |
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There is more help now than there ever has been |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 02:10 PM |
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This is worse than the 50's and 60's. This is going to be worse than the 30's. |
midnight |
Aug-22-10 12:11 AM |
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I am in my mid 50's |
Mojorabbit |
Aug-22-10 12:58 AM |
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Normally the applications are in files |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:00 AM |
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unemployment insurance was part of the social security act of 1935. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 01:27 AM |
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There are some people starving on the streets. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-22-10 11:34 AM |
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Aug-21-10 02:11 PM |
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Food stamps. Unemployment. Homeless programs. |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 02:12 PM |
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You're being a bully. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-21-10 02:14 PM |
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Take them to a food bank |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 04:28 PM |
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Will there always be? |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 04:40 PM |
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Unless the county commissioners run off with the money |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 04:58 PM |
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Rather rude... |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:02 PM |
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Aug-21-10 05:06 PM |
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Wow to be as naive as you... |
MessiahRp |
Aug-22-10 11:58 AM |
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There were 3 food banks in my city just a few years ago. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-21-10 04:57 PM |
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Go collect food for them then |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:00 PM |
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I think we should send them cake! I get it now, You are the most kind hearted person ever! |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 05:04 PM |
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Food stamps, food bank, commodities, WIC, daily soup kitchen |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:09 PM |
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I know many in a severe state of poverty some living in cars that are no longer insured |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 05:26 PM |
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"25 dollar a week 'cake'", lol there you go |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:30 PM |
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Aug-21-10 05:38 PM |
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Have you taken George to social services? |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:41 PM |
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No he won't go there again, he said they wasted a day and didn't help |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 05:49 PM |
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People with mental illnesses have other issues |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:57 PM |
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He isn't mentally ill, just out of work for 5 years and frightened and vulnerable. |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 06:19 PM |
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It would appear my answer was not dlc approved and was deleted, Can we not discuss a disagreement |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 06:26 PM |
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BTW, I've lived in a car wtih my child n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:38 PM |
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You recommend it then? /nt |
Dragonfli |
Aug-21-10 05:39 PM |
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Oh absolutely, that's just what I was saying n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:42 PM |
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How lucky to have a car. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:52 PM |
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I haven't always had a car n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:54 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-22-10 11:36 AM |
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Okay, I've tried. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-21-10 05:07 PM |
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Go to the county |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:12 PM |
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he already said he grows food for them. quit putting the failure of the economy on his shoulders. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-21-10 05:46 PM |
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And here come the reinforcements n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:47 PM |
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Aug-21-10 05:56 PM |
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Did the truth hurt? |
Forkboy |
Aug-21-10 06:20 PM |
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look, your whole schtick is: "Why don't *you* do something?" HE IS. But it doesn't make up for |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-21-10 06:54 PM |
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You make a great New Democrat. |
Forkboy |
Aug-21-10 05:55 PM |
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Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? |
QC |
Aug-21-10 07:33 PM |
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I think most would be satisfied with gainful employment. n/t |
Fire1 |
Aug-22-10 11:09 AM |
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There are over 17 million unemployed... |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:22 PM |
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No One NEED Starve Or Freeze To Death |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:27 PM |
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I'm sorry. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:33 PM |
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Aug-21-10 05:38 PM |
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Rude and name calling again. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:45 PM |
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Didn't answer my question |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:46 PM |
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And how did you escape from that experience? |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:50 PM |
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Not you. Your children. |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 05:53 PM |
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No, Fortunately no children to put through that experience. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:58 PM |
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Reagan was better than Obama? That's what you're saying? n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 06:06 PM |
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Yes, that's exactly what he was saying. |
Forkboy |
Aug-21-10 06:21 PM |
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Shame on you. |
inna |
Aug-21-10 09:17 PM |
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Exactly |
Ricochet21 |
Aug-22-10 11:23 AM |
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you know |
griffi94 |
Aug-22-10 11:46 AM |
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What seems to be being said is that because he/she had it bad, nobody can ever have it as bad. |
closeupready |
Aug-23-10 03:18 PM |
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I was that child. |
Forkboy |
Aug-21-10 06:00 PM |
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Yes, you are unhelpful. |
Forkboy |
Aug-21-10 05:58 PM |
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NONONONONO! you don't get it |
FirstLight |
Aug-21-10 07:42 PM |
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There Is More Than There Ever Has Been |
sandnsea |
Aug-21-10 10:45 PM |
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I'm going to tell you plainly: You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. |
Duncan Grant |
Aug-22-10 12:42 AM |
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There weren't mental health & drug treatment services in 1980 |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 01:18 AM |
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there were. you don't know what you're talking about. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 01:23 AM |
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My husband got his certification in 1986 |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 01:27 AM |
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you don't know what you're talking about. no, like most medical bills weren't "covered by |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 01:39 AM |
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Narcotics Anonymous is not a treatment program |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 01:49 AM |
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i didn't say na was a "treatment program," i said it was founded in the 50s. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:02 AM |
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lol, back to the 30s and 50s |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:08 AM |
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lol, nice straw to avoid the necessity of admitting there were federally-funded drug programs before |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:29 AM |
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There Is More Than There Ever Has Been |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:35 AM |
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you said THERE WERE NO TREATMENT PROGRAMS BEFORE 1980. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:37 AM |
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And there weren't, NA is NOT treatment |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:44 AM |
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so dishonest. i linked you to multiple reports of programs other than NA. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:48 AM |
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worth duplicating but won't n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:35 AM |
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Treatment was covered by insurance in 1986 |
dflprincess |
Aug-23-10 03:06 PM |
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Nice try -- and you'll see no apology from me, no matter how big or small a person I am. |
Duncan Grant |
Aug-22-10 01:56 AM |
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Hey, people want to go back to the 30s and 60s |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:06 AM |
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you're full of crap. so much dishonesty in that post. you claimed there were NO TREATMENT PROGRAMS |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:36 AM |
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Methadone and NA are not treatment programs n/t |
sandnsea |
Aug-22-10 02:45 AM |
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those are not the only things i linked. you're disingenuous or can't read properly. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-22-10 02:49 AM |
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And over 30 million un/underemployed in America. |
Prometheus Bound |
Aug-21-10 10:41 PM |
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I don't think Congress gives a damn. I think it's gonna be up to the people-each of us helping |
earth mom |
Aug-21-10 05:34 PM |
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True. |
kentuck |
Aug-21-10 05:37 PM |
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Humor helps too doesn't it? |
earth mom |
Aug-21-10 06:15 PM |
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To Hell freezes and the stars go dead. They got the wink and nod from suburbanite yuppies |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-21-10 05:46 PM |
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ain't it the truth. the upper-middle liberals & conservatives are both on the same page. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-21-10 06:55 PM |
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I dunno. Ask the Republicans |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Aug-21-10 10:53 PM |
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Very few in DC |
femrap |
Aug-22-10 12:13 AM |
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The Republicans have complete control of Congress despite being the minority. |
Kablooie |
Aug-22-10 01:16 AM |
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Dogs and Cats living together... |
Supply Side Jesus |
Aug-22-10 01:30 AM |
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People started dying long ago, and the death rate is very acceptable to today's Congress. |
Orsino |
Aug-22-10 06:49 AM |
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It will take many more than now for the "bubble" to notice. They have theirs. |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-22-10 08:48 AM |
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Aug-22-10 08:59 AM |
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Aug-22-10 09:34 AM |
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The meaness I see here is amazing. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-22-10 12:02 PM |
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Yes, it's amazing, but it must never be spoken of! n/t |
QC |
Aug-22-10 02:45 PM |
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Foot Stomping, spittle flinging "Let them eat cake" cold hearted meaness. |
bvar22 |
Aug-22-10 03:02 PM |
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Ssssssh! |
QC |
Aug-22-10 04:10 PM |
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Been Asking This Question For A VERY Long Time Now... I HAD Thought |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-22-10 09:20 AM |
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All I can say... |
kentuck |
Aug-22-10 09:24 AM |
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Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and any programs to create jobs, jobs |
mother earth |
Aug-22-10 09:25 AM |
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Before we teach people how to dig wells and grow food |
skepticscott |
Aug-22-10 09:33 AM |
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Much of this thread is about people being homeless |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-22-10 10:45 AM |
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Here, Here... THE HOMELESS Are Growing Larger & Larger As A Group! |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-22-10 11:07 AM |
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Citizens already are dying. |
Zoeisright |
Aug-22-10 09:56 AM |
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... only when Halliburton gets into the 'public housing' industry ... |
Myrina |
Aug-22-10 10:27 AM |
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It has to happen to them before they even begin to acknowledge the problem. |
proReality |
Aug-22-10 10:48 AM |
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Grapes of Wrath II. Maybe Michael Moore should make a documentary with |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-22-10 10:58 AM |
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Incredibly Bad |
colsohlibgal |
Aug-22-10 11:13 AM |
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Sadly, the average Republican doesn't care in the least how many people starve and die. |
totodeinhere |
Aug-22-10 11:46 AM |
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Some Democrats don't seem too concerned, either. n/t |
QC |
Aug-22-10 04:11 PM |
#147 |
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