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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 08:51 AM
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9. The AMERICAN Indians thought that LAND ownership was

A REALLY FUCKED UP IDEA....
and the White Man proved it.

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  -People are poor because they have no land. zeemike  Aug-21-10 08:10 AM   #0 
  - Good, truthful OP  AnArmyVeteran   Aug-21-10 08:20 AM   #1 
  - Thanks. n/t  zeemike   Aug-21-10 08:27 AM   #2 
  - People are poor because they have abandoned the land  Skidmore   Aug-21-10 08:29 AM   #3 
  - A beautiful tribute to our natural self.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 08:36 AM   #5 
  - Too true  tech9413   Aug-21-10 08:49 AM   #8 
  - They haven't abandoned the land, they were forced off it.  blindpig   Aug-21-10 09:12 AM   #16 
  - +1000  corkhead   Aug-21-10 10:53 AM   #42 
  - Idylic pastoralism is wonderful in theory,  MadHound   Aug-21-10 08:32 AM   #4 
  - Well I disagree with that completely.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 08:46 AM   #6 
     - First of all, as I've stated, there simply isn't enough arable land in this country  MadHound   Aug-21-10 09:01 AM   #12 
        - First there are errors in your thinking.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:14 AM   #17 
        - No, there are no errors in my thinking, only practical experience  MadHound   Aug-21-10 03:34 PM   #50 
           - Here are some figures.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 04:46 PM   #55 
              - Yes, you get approximately three acres per person  MadHound   Aug-21-10 05:47 PM   #61 
                 - First a family usually consists of at least 3 people not one.  zeemike   Aug-22-10 11:13 AM   #67 
        - There are 470 million acres of cultivatable land in the U.S.  Xithras   Aug-21-10 03:00 PM   #49 
  - Ah the good old days. When the population of this entire country  david13   Aug-21-10 08:48 AM   #7 
  - Actually I spent some time reading the history of this country  zeemike   Aug-21-10 08:57 AM   #10 
  - Now you need to update and read the part where the wealth of the  david13   Aug-21-10 09:18 AM   #19 
     - Ask the farmers. Farmers don't make any money today. And there  david13   Aug-21-10 09:20 AM   #21 
     - Well let me pose this question.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:31 AM   #24 
        - I can answer the question. It's rhetorical, not practical. But first,  david13   Aug-21-10 09:42 AM   #26 
           - and if you have no gold no one will take it.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:50 AM   #29 
              - But if you are poor, if you have no money, how much land can you  david13   Aug-21-10 10:04 AM   #31 
                 - But that is the question I am asking.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 10:20 AM   #35 
                    - I thought the question was "back to the land". Answer. It ain't possible. dc  david13   Aug-21-10 10:28 AM   #38 
  - Over-population  More_liberal_than_mo   Aug-21-10 09:42 AM   #25 
     - Certainly posible. Maybe even probable. dc  david13   Aug-21-10 09:46 AM   #28 
  - The AMERICAN Indians thought that LAND ownership was  Ichingcarpenter   Aug-21-10 08:51 AM   #9 
  - And I agree with them.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 08:59 AM   #11 
  - New Mexico... ahh.... I miss her  Ichingcarpenter   Aug-21-10 09:07 AM   #14 
     - And the Native Americans continue to sustain themselves  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:16 AM   #18 
        - My introduction to the Zunis from my 'uncle'  Ichingcarpenter   Aug-21-10 09:29 AM   #23 
        - Whoa. The primary sustenance of native americans today is:  david13   Aug-21-10 10:27 AM   #37 
           - Broke or not they endured all these years because they had land  zeemike   Aug-21-10 10:42 AM   #41 
              - Not really. They survived because they had sustenance. They  david13   Aug-21-10 10:56 AM   #43 
                 - You are probably not aware of it but  zeemike   Aug-21-10 11:43 AM   #45 
                    - Actually, I am. It is known as subsistence farming. Barely eking out  david13   Aug-21-10 02:20 PM   #47 
                       - I am sure subsistence farming is all boring and useless. to you  zeemike   Aug-21-10 04:21 PM   #51 
                          - And we would be poor if we were to turn to subsistence farming.  david13   Aug-21-10 04:32 PM   #53 
  - Yet they fought over land and massacred each other over it all the time.  naaman fletcher   Aug-21-10 05:14 PM   #59 
     - I almost fell for that flaim bait...n/t  zeemike   Aug-21-10 06:02 PM   #66 
  - "when we gave up the land to industry"  Indydem   Aug-21-10 09:04 AM   #13 
  - It is the attitude that land is a tool that is the problem.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:24 AM   #22 
  - Baloney. Look at Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and land redistribution --  elehhhhna   Aug-21-10 09:12 AM   #15 
  - Baloney  Ichingcarpenter   Aug-21-10 09:19 AM   #20 
  - Better yet look at how it became Rhodesia.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 09:43 AM   #27 
  - I'll tell you what's frustating to me, as someone trying to sell a home...  pipi_k   Aug-21-10 10:03 AM   #30 
  - I don't believe this would work without a certain amount of depopulation  el_bryanto   Aug-21-10 10:06 AM   #32 
  - Not everyone need live on a farm to be self sustaining.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 10:30 AM   #39 
  - just previewed some 400K homes in my area  Donnachaidh   Aug-21-10 10:06 AM   #33 
  - A must read or those interested in this topic: Earth Democracy nt  wiggs   Aug-21-10 10:13 AM   #34 
  - 40 acres and a mule.....  a kennedy   Aug-21-10 10:22 AM   #36 
  - And imagine what would happen if we did it now?  zeemike   Aug-21-10 10:37 AM   #40 
  - A little bit of heaven on earth.  tourivers83   Aug-21-10 10:57 AM   #44 
  - That sounds like a wonderful life.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 11:45 AM   #46 
  - ah the good old days.  naaman fletcher   Aug-21-10 02:30 PM   #48 
  - No false dichotomies please.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 04:24 PM   #52 
     - they go hand in hand.  naaman fletcher   Aug-21-10 05:08 PM   #57 
        - Difficult work can be rewarding.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 05:39 PM   #60 
  - The OP Proves That Regressive Thinking and Nostalgia for the Past  Yavin4   Aug-21-10 04:41 PM   #54 
  - Fair enough comment.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 04:58 PM   #56 
     - Back When We All Had Land  Yavin4   Aug-21-10 05:11 PM   #58 
        - +1 completely agree with this post. n/t  taught_me_patience   Aug-21-10 05:50 PM   #63 
        - Not at all  zeemike   Aug-21-10 05:54 PM   #64 
  - I completely and totally disagree with this  taught_me_patience   Aug-21-10 05:50 PM   #62 
     - Not everyone wants or needs it.  zeemike   Aug-21-10 05:58 PM   #65 
 

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