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Fri Aug-20-10 05:05 PM
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| 88. whatever "this" was, it's now deleted. |
| -Harlem charter school in public school building gets soccer field. Public school parents not told. |
madfloridian |
Aug-19-10 10:58 PM |
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What is happening in NYPS is criminal |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-19-10 11:03 PM |
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How is two schools sharing a soccer field criminal? n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:23 PM |
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"Our children can't...play with their children at recess... I'll believe it when I see it." |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-19-10 11:52 PM |
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If that parent doesn't believe it, she should take it up with her public |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:59 PM |
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Is Harlem Success a public school? Is it in her district? Shouldn't the parents have oversight... |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:03 AM |
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Did you miss that the public school parents are complaining? |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:05 AM |
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If charters were truly public, they should be able to make their case to the democratically elected |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:31 AM |
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You make a very good point. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:53 AM |
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You are welcome. You are one of the best on this board. I wish I had more time to support you. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:57 AM |
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There is no democratically elected school board in NYC because of mayoral control |
erodriguez |
Aug-20-10 11:23 AM |
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And the teacher's union supports that. |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 01:17 PM |
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Randi Weingarten, the Broad mole, is not "the teachers' union". She's a collaborationist mole. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 05:04 PM |
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It appears that that is only true for high school... |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 05:11 PM |
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Check this out. It appears Bloomberg controls the school board. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 06:08 PM |
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That is the board that I was speaking of. |
erodriguez |
Aug-21-10 12:24 AM |
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I don't think Harlem Success is footing the $65,000 bill |
mrmpa |
Aug-20-10 01:21 PM |
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Think about this for a moment. |
sulphurdunn |
Aug-21-10 11:34 AM |
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wrong. priorities are IN order...corporate priorities. race to the top indeed nt |
msongs |
Aug-19-10 11:03 PM |
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Can we put the argument that charters don't filter their enrollment to rest now? |
LWolf |
Aug-19-10 11:07 PM |
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Both schools can use the soccer field, both principals agreed, the charter foot the bill... |
NYC_SKP |
Aug-19-10 11:11 PM |
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Please, the facts just interfere with the poutrage and Obama-bashing. |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:22 PM |
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You don't see the problem? |
madfloridian |
Aug-19-10 11:22 PM |
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Aug-19-10 11:24 PM |
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That's because there IS NO PROBLEM |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-20-10 08:03 AM |
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No, it is not a non-issue at all. It is lack of respect for public schools. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 11:27 AM |
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A "public school" is a bricks-and-mortar building.... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-20-10 02:04 PM |
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Read it again. The charter school is expanding in the public school bldg |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 04:42 PM |
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What I didn't do... |
Jeff In Milwaukee |
Aug-20-10 05:56 PM |
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Then if you choose not to read it, you don't have a viable argument. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 09:13 PM |
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last time i checked, principals couldn't convert city property to new uses by fiat. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 07:38 PM |
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It's another misleading post in the fear campaign? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-20-10 03:49 AM |
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Thanks for providing the missing facts. I think DUers should know all the facts |
NJmaverick |
Aug-20-10 06:30 AM |
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Have you not been following the way parents are being treated in NY |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 06:50 AM |
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Aug-19-10 11:26 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-19-10 11:28 PM |
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You're welcome. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:38 PM |
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whatever "this" was, it's now deleted. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 05:05 PM |
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What the principals agreed to means squat. Where is the democratic oversight? |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:41 AM |
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NYC schools ruled by a dictatorship. Whatever the mayor wants the mayor gets. |
erodriguez |
Aug-20-10 11:26 AM |
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There are likely to be real estate scams associated with |
PufPuf23 |
Aug-19-10 11:30 PM |
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That's one way they make cash. |
rucky |
Aug-20-10 04:47 PM |
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Already being accused of not telling the truth? Interesting indeed. |
madfloridian |
Aug-19-10 11:33 PM |
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Aug-19-10 11:35 PM |
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Just because the principal agreed does not mean that the parents knew about it. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-19-10 11:46 PM |
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Then I suggest you hold the public school principal accountable |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:50 PM |
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The charter school power brokers (and campaign donors) are calling the shots in NYC. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-19-10 11:58 PM |
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So what do you think of the parents who send their kids to charters in NYC? |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:02 AM |
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They are being sold a pig in a poke. And the money men are salivating at turning parent against... |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:04 AM |
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And they are all too stupid to realize that? |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:06 AM |
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Apparently, they are. Because charters more often do worse than better at |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:35 AM |
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And that is precisely why these education threads are so valuable. |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 01:50 AM |
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Are parents presented with the facts that most charters do no better and often worse? |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 02:16 AM |
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The sheer contempt that charter school advocates have for the democratic system... |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 02:34 AM |
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The sheer contempt that charters have for a democratic public school system is appalling |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 06:52 AM |
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The contempt for parents comes from the top |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 07:09 AM |
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misleading OP |
Whisp |
Aug-19-10 11:34 PM |
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You are being more generous than I. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:36 PM |
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My original second line. Shows I was not trying to mislead. |
madfloridian |
Aug-19-10 11:47 PM |
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If this is obviously the fault of the public school employee, (the principal) |
msanthrope |
Aug-19-10 11:52 PM |
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I thought that charter schools were public schools? Isn't this what pro-charter people tell us? |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:01 AM |
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Um, the parent complaining has a kid at PS 149. Why would the charter school |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:03 AM |
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If the charter school was reallly a public school the parents would be able to complain |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:25 AM |
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i see you agree that charter schools *aren't* public schools. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 05:09 PM |
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I am not going to be discouraged on this issue. |
madfloridian |
Aug-19-10 11:56 PM |
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Your work is so valuable. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-20-10 12:08 AM |
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I agree. Threads like this one are an invaluable service. |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:16 AM |
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You certainly have made a poor showing in this thread. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-20-10 08:24 AM |
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It doesn't matter, though. The education deed is done. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:17 AM |
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It matters because it needs to be recorded. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-20-10 12:28 AM |
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Thanks for that. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:48 AM |
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Klein had to back down on moving autistic children for a charter... |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:06 AM |
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I'm sorry, but how did we get to autistic children? Are they using the soccer field? |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:11 AM |
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We get there because students of a democratic public school system are being pushed around |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-20-10 12:51 AM |
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As the mother of an autistic child, do you approve of autistic kids being moved out of a school |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 06:46 AM |
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Aug-20-10 07:45 AM |
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Not a single autistic child was going to be, or will be moved. |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 01:09 PM |
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Of course they were going to be moved. That's why Klein backed down when it went public. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 04:44 PM |
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Bingo |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 07:23 PM |
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So which is it? |
POAS |
Aug-20-10 12:08 AM |
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I edited and made it clear. Very clear. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:11 AM |
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I'm sorry but you didn't, at least not to me and not |
POAS |
Aug-20-10 12:38 AM |
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PS 123 and JHS 126.....fighting to keep their building from charters. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 12:15 AM |
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Are they using the soccer field? Are we off the autistic kids now? n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 12:17 AM |
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You are obviously having trouble keeping up |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-20-10 06:56 AM |
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I'm sure Madfloridian's journal is a font of knowledge. |
msanthrope |
Aug-20-10 09:30 AM |
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Oh for crying out loud! |
Born_A_Truman |
Aug-20-10 12:16 AM |
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The perfect business plan |
SoCalDem |
Aug-20-10 05:48 AM |
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Good point. Amid controversy of who owns the building now. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 10:06 AM |
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"And the public school is not even told about it" |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-20-10 05:57 AM |
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lol. yeah, every kid in the school lost the flyer. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-20-10 05:12 PM |
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that's the part that gets me. even if the principals agreed to share it, i tend to believe the |
ejpoeta |
Aug-20-10 06:17 PM |
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K&R, thanks for posting.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-20-10 06:28 AM |
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Rec back to 5 |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-20-10 07:57 AM |
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heh heh |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 10:04 AM |
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Proud to make it 5 -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-20-10 10:13 AM |
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K and R. onto the Greatest. Thanks for the post. |
fogonthelake |
Aug-20-10 10:33 AM |
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If schools aren't social service agencies, then what are they? |
JackDragna |
Aug-20-10 04:14 PM |
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Read this part....gives a clue. Pretty sad. |
madfloridian |
Aug-20-10 04:34 PM |
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I see your rushed lunch & recess, and raise you: |
rucky |
Aug-20-10 04:53 PM |
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omfg |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-20-10 05:12 PM |
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After 2 pm, there wasn't much education happening. |
rucky |
Aug-20-10 09:53 PM |
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notice the pattern of just doing things without permission or consulting |
KakistocracyHater |
Aug-20-10 09:01 PM |
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