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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 12:53 AM
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50. You make a very good point.
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  -Harlem charter school in public school building gets soccer field. Public school parents not told. madfloridian  Aug-19-10 10:58 PM   #0 
  - What is happening in NYPS is criminal  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-19-10 11:03 PM   #1 
  - How is two schools sharing a soccer field criminal? n/t  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:23 PM   #7 
     - "Our children can't...play with their children at recess... I'll believe it when I see it."  Luminous Animal   Aug-19-10 11:52 PM   #21 
        - If that parent doesn't believe it, she should take it up with her public  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:59 PM   #24 
           - Is Harlem Success a public school? Is it in her district? Shouldn't the parents have oversight...  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:03 AM   #27 
           - Did you miss that the public school parents are complaining?  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:05 AM   #30 
              - If charters were truly public, they should be able to make their case to the democratically elected  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:31 AM   #44 
                 - You make a very good point.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:53 AM   #50 
                 - You are welcome. You are one of the best on this board. I wish I had more time to support you.  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:57 AM   #51 
                 - There is no democratically elected school board in NYC because of mayoral control  erodriguez   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #74 
                    - And the teacher's union supports that.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 01:17 PM   #78 
                    - Randi Weingarten, the Broad mole, is not "the teachers' union". She's a collaborationist mole.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #87 
                    - It appears that that is only true for high school...  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 05:11 PM   #90 
                       - Check this out. It appears Bloomberg controls the school board.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 06:08 PM   #94 
                          - That is the board that I was speaking of.  erodriguez   Aug-21-10 12:24 AM   #101 
           - I don't think Harlem Success is footing the $65,000 bill  mrmpa   Aug-20-10 01:21 PM   #79 
           - Think about this for a moment.  sulphurdunn   Aug-21-10 11:34 AM   #102 
  - wrong. priorities are IN order...corporate priorities. race to the top indeed nt  msongs   Aug-19-10 11:03 PM   #2 
  - Can we put the argument that charters don't filter their enrollment to rest now?  LWolf   Aug-19-10 11:07 PM   #3 
  - Both schools can use the soccer field, both principals agreed, the charter foot the bill...  NYC_SKP   Aug-19-10 11:11 PM   #4 
  - Please, the facts just interfere with the poutrage and Obama-bashing.  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:22 PM   #5 
  - You don't see the problem?  madfloridian   Aug-19-10 11:22 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-10 11:24 PM   #8 
  - That's because there IS NO PROBLEM  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 08:03 AM   #67 
     - No, it is not a non-issue at all. It is lack of respect for public schools.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 11:27 AM   #76 
     - A "public school" is a bricks-and-mortar building....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 02:04 PM   #80 
        - Read it again. The charter school is expanding in the public school bldg  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 04:42 PM   #83 
           - What I didn't do...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 05:56 PM   #93 
              - Then if you choose not to read it, you don't have a viable argument.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 09:13 PM   #99 
     - last time i checked, principals couldn't convert city property to new uses by fiat.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 07:38 PM   #97 
  - It's another misleading post in the fear campaign?  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 03:49 AM   #55 
  - Thanks for providing the missing facts. I think DUers should know all the facts  NJmaverick   Aug-20-10 06:30 AM   #59 
  - Have you not been following the way parents are being treated in NY  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 06:50 AM   #61 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-10 11:26 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for posting this. nt  AtomicKitten   Aug-19-10 11:28 PM   #10 
  - You're welcome. n/t  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:38 PM   #16 
  - whatever "this" was, it's now deleted.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 05:05 PM   #88 
  - What the principals agreed to means squat. Where is the democratic oversight?  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:41 AM   #47 
     - NYC schools ruled by a dictatorship. Whatever the mayor wants the mayor gets.  erodriguez   Aug-20-10 11:26 AM   #75 
  - There are likely to be real estate scams associated with  PufPuf23   Aug-19-10 11:30 PM   #11 
  - That's one way they make cash.  rucky   Aug-20-10 04:47 PM   #85 
  - Already being accused of not telling the truth? Interesting indeed.  madfloridian   Aug-19-10 11:33 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-19-10 11:35 PM   #14 
     - Just because the principal agreed does not mean that the parents knew about it.  Luminous Animal   Aug-19-10 11:46 PM   #17 
        - Then I suggest you hold the public school principal accountable  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:50 PM   #19 
           - The charter school power brokers (and campaign donors) are calling the shots in NYC.  Luminous Animal   Aug-19-10 11:58 PM   #23 
              - So what do you think of the parents who send their kids to charters in NYC?  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:02 AM   #26 
                 - They are being sold a pig in a poke. And the money men are salivating at turning parent against...  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:04 AM   #29 
                    - And they are all too stupid to realize that?  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:06 AM   #32 
                       - Apparently, they are. Because charters more often do worse than better at  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:35 AM   #45 
                          - And that is precisely why these education threads are so valuable.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 01:50 AM   #52 
                             - Are parents presented with the facts that most charters do no better and often worse?  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 02:16 AM   #53 
                             - The sheer contempt that charter school advocates have for the democratic system...  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 02:34 AM   #54 
                             - The sheer contempt that charters have for a democratic public school system is appalling  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 06:52 AM   #62 
                             - The contempt for parents comes from the top  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 07:09 AM   #64 
  - misleading OP  Whisp   Aug-19-10 11:34 PM   #13 
  - You are being more generous than I. n/t  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:36 PM   #15 
  - My original second line. Shows I was not trying to mislead.  madfloridian   Aug-19-10 11:47 PM   #18 
  - If this is obviously the fault of the public school employee, (the principal)  msanthrope   Aug-19-10 11:52 PM   #20 
     - I thought that charter schools were public schools? Isn't this what pro-charter people tell us?  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:01 AM   #25 
     - Um, the parent complaining has a kid at PS 149. Why would the charter school  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:03 AM   #28 
        - If the charter school was reallly a public school the parents would be able to complain  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:25 AM   #42 
     - i see you agree that charter schools *aren't* public schools.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 05:09 PM   #89 
  - I am not going to be discouraged on this issue.  madfloridian   Aug-19-10 11:56 PM   #22 
  - Your work is so valuable.  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 12:08 AM   #34 
     - I agree. Threads like this one are an invaluable service.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:16 AM   #38 
     - You certainly have made a poor showing in this thread.  girl gone mad   Aug-20-10 08:24 AM   #68 
     - It doesn't matter, though. The education deed is done.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:17 AM   #41 
        - It matters because it needs to be recorded.  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 12:28 AM   #43 
           - Thanks for that.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:48 AM   #48 
  - Klein had to back down on moving autistic children for a charter...  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:06 AM   #31 
  - I'm sorry, but how did we get to autistic children? Are they using the soccer field?  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:11 AM   #36 
     - We get there because students of a democratic public school system are being pushed around  Luminous Animal   Aug-20-10 12:51 AM   #49 
     - As the mother of an autistic child, do you approve of autistic kids being moved out of a school  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 06:46 AM   #60 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-10 07:45 AM   #65 
        - Not a single autistic child was going to be, or will be moved.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 01:09 PM   #77 
           - Of course they were going to be moved. That's why Klein backed down when it went public.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 04:44 PM   #84 
              - Bingo  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 07:23 PM   #96 
  - So which is it?  POAS   Aug-20-10 12:08 AM   #33 
  - I edited and made it clear. Very clear.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:11 AM   #35 
     - I'm sorry but you didn't, at least not to me and not  POAS   Aug-20-10 12:38 AM   #46 
  - PS 123 and JHS 126.....fighting to keep their building from charters.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 12:15 AM   #37 
  - Are they using the soccer field? Are we off the autistic kids now? n/t  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 12:17 AM   #40 
     - You are obviously having trouble keeping up  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 06:56 AM   #63 
        - I'm sure Madfloridian's journal is a font of knowledge.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 09:30 AM   #69 
  - Oh for crying out loud!  Born_A_Truman   Aug-20-10 12:16 AM   #39 
  - The perfect business plan  SoCalDem   Aug-20-10 05:48 AM   #56 
  - Good point. Amid controversy of who owns the building now.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 10:06 AM   #71 
  - "And the public school is not even told about it"  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 05:57 AM   #57 
  - lol. yeah, every kid in the school lost the flyer.  Hannah Bell   Aug-20-10 05:12 PM   #91 
     - that's the part that gets me. even if the principals agreed to share it, i tend to believe the  ejpoeta   Aug-20-10 06:17 PM   #95 
  - K&R, thanks for posting..  Fumesucker   Aug-20-10 06:28 AM   #58 
  - Rec back to 5  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 07:57 AM   #66 
  - heh heh  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 10:04 AM   #70 
  - Proud to make it 5 --  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 10:13 AM   #72 
  - K and R. onto the Greatest. Thanks for the post.  fogonthelake   Aug-20-10 10:33 AM   #73 
  - If schools aren't social service agencies, then what are they?  JackDragna   Aug-20-10 04:14 PM   #81 
  - Read this part....gives a clue. Pretty sad.  madfloridian   Aug-20-10 04:34 PM   #82 
     - I see your rushed lunch & recess, and raise you:  rucky   Aug-20-10 04:53 PM   #86 
        - omfg  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 05:12 PM   #92 
           - After 2 pm, there wasn't much education happening.  rucky   Aug-20-10 09:53 PM   #100 
  - notice the pattern of just doing things without permission or consulting  KakistocracyHater   Aug-20-10 09:01 PM   #98 
 

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