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142. i gave you specific examples. you simply continue to pretend you don't understand.
but we know you do.
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  -Old vs. New Dems - A Poll Steely_Dan  Aug-16-10 11:04 AM   #0 
  - Just another old, disgruntled dem here.  femmocrat   Aug-16-10 11:09 AM   #1 
  - That would be excellent as well...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:10 AM   #2 
  - I thought the same thing. New Dems implies NDC.  Individualist   Aug-16-10 11:14 AM   #7 
  - Yeah...I suppose that there is a lot...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:27 AM   #13 
  - Also I'd like to know - Is he doing too much or is he doing too little  jailthecrooks   Aug-16-10 01:16 PM   #44 
  - Other?  one_voice   Aug-16-10 11:12 AM   #3 
  - I understand that this is what makes the poll difficult...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:13 AM   #5 
     - Thinking about it a little more...  one_voice   Aug-16-10 11:19 AM   #8 
        - I Understand What...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:24 AM   #11 
  - Obama has struggled with older people.  Renew Deal   Aug-16-10 11:12 AM   #4 
  - I am 50 years old, and I am appalled by the Obama administration. nt  LWolf   Aug-16-10 11:14 AM   #6 
  - I guess old wolves run in similar packs - though my pack is almost a decade older than yours.  T Wolf   Aug-16-10 11:19 AM   #9 
  - You are right. And it is, in this old wolf's opinion, a travesty. nt  LWolf   Aug-16-10 11:37 AM   #18 
  - The benefit of experience: it's harder to pull the wool over our eyes  jailthecrooks   Aug-16-10 01:46 PM   #48 
  - Yeah, no older person bought into that crap about 'death panels'  WonderGrunion   Aug-17-10 06:20 AM   #151 
  - This age dissatisfaction only underscores or confirms  Poboy   Aug-16-10 06:07 PM   #73 
     - absolutely correct  Skittles   Aug-17-10 01:51 AM   #119 
  - Yes, and you were "appalled" with the Obama campaign to.  Renew Deal   Aug-16-10 11:20 AM   #10 
  - And a lot aren't  HERVEPA   Aug-16-10 11:26 AM   #12 
  - +10000  Dappleganger   Aug-16-10 12:27 PM   #34 
  - +20000  laughingliberal   Aug-17-10 12:53 AM   #109 
  - I'm not a 'recycled opponent'. Indeed, I supported Obama from the  Subdivisions   Aug-16-10 11:31 AM   #14 
  - Not sure where the problem is with that.  GreenArrow   Aug-16-10 11:34 AM   #16 
  - If one was "prescient" enough to see that Obama was lousy  Renew Deal   Aug-16-10 11:47 AM   #20 
  - Alternately,  GreenArrow   Aug-16-10 12:05 PM   #26 
  - The funny part for me  zipplewrath   Aug-16-10 11:51 AM   #22 
  - I'm just the opposite. Me, the one who'd never thought she'd go out knocking on doors,  nc4bo   Aug-16-10 12:10 PM   #27 
  - As a Kucinich supporter,  GreenArrow   Aug-16-10 08:09 PM   #81 
  - Green Arrow speaks for me.  FredStembottom   Aug-17-10 12:39 AM   #105 
  - Yes, I was. I was appalled by his center-right policies.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 11:36 AM   #17 
  - The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent  jailthecrooks   Aug-16-10 01:55 PM   #50 
     - Perhaps it's a good thing he didn't take the book I sent him after all.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 02:31 PM   # 
        - Shudder to think  jailthecrooks   Aug-16-10 03:30 PM   #56 
  - And what about the ones who aren't "recycled critics"?  walldude   Aug-16-10 12:15 PM   #30 
     - Welcome  Dappleganger   Aug-16-10 12:30 PM   #35 
  - Ditto. 72 years old.  emilyg   Aug-16-10 12:14 PM   #29 
  - Maybe those of us who have never known job security  Recursion   Aug-16-10 11:32 AM   #15 
  - True.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 12:26 PM   #33 
  - It's come up a lot during education threads  Recursion   Aug-16-10 01:54 PM   #49 
     - and never a shortage of folks who imagine pulling every worker to  Hannah Bell   Aug-16-10 11:20 PM   #91 
        - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-17-10 12:56 AM   #110 
  - you're patting yourself on the back for that, or what?  Hannah Bell   Aug-16-10 11:16 PM   #90 
  - We can use some younger participants n/t  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:45 AM   #19 
  - 45+ lady here and going by the present #'s, see I'm not alone in how I feel.  nc4bo   Aug-16-10 11:51 AM   #21 
  - Time of day  zipplewrath   Aug-16-10 11:53 AM   #23 
  - Yeah...I think you make a good point.  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 12:02 PM   #25 
  - Message boards in general skew older  Recursion   Aug-16-10 06:09 PM   #74 
     - .  Bluebear   Aug-18-10 06:14 PM   #171 
     - I can see the dramatic difference at kos.  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 09:24 PM   #173 
  - I Agree...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:54 AM   #24 
  - One of the most refershing things about Obama's campaign  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 12:11 PM   #28 
  - Fighting, and dying  zipplewrath   Aug-16-10 12:20 PM   #31 
  - Excellent Point...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 12:26 PM   #32 
  - careful?  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 12:40 PM   #37 
     - Make sure you understand who you are addressing  zipplewrath   Aug-16-10 03:52 PM   #58 
     - Respect your juniors.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 05:19 PM   #64 
     - And therein lies the problem.  quakerboy   Aug-19-10 12:39 AM   #174 
     - what, precisely, has changed?  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:28 AM   #100 
     - I want a new drug. One that won't make me sick. -- Huey Lewis  Common Sense Party   Aug-17-10 01:58 AM   #120 
  - Nah, they want to still rehash stuff that matters little to us. I mean, why should Gen X matter at  Jennicut   Aug-16-10 12:30 PM   #36 
  - I had a conversation about this with a leftie boomer friend of mine.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 12:52 PM   #39 
  - I agree but they don't want us. This thread makes that obvious.  Jennicut   Aug-16-10 12:56 PM   #41 
     - We are close in age  JustAnotherGen   Aug-16-10 01:30 PM   #46 
     - I totally agree with all of that. The Rethugs are a total waste of time.  Jennicut   Aug-16-10 01:44 PM   #47 
     - I really like what you wrote  Angry Dragon   Aug-17-10 01:26 AM   #115 
     - My sons don't remember Watergate, Vietnam, or the Civil Rights battles.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 03:40 PM   #57 
     - DU is dominated by boomers.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 05:24 PM   #65 
     - Hold on, now, Jennicut--  janx   Aug-16-10 05:43 PM   #69 
  - +1  Recursion   Aug-16-10 05:54 PM   #70 
  - yes, knowing anything about history would be a big mistake.  Hannah Bell   Aug-16-10 11:22 PM   #92 
  - Yes, because Obama never said  LWolf   Aug-16-10 12:44 PM   #38 
  - And your point?  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 01:06 PM   #42 
  - Obama seems quite a bit like a Reagan Democrat to me.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 02:26 PM   #52 
  - Reagan pushed deregulation.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 05:05 PM   #62 
     - Reagan didn't push anything very hard  Recursion   Aug-16-10 06:12 PM   #75 
     - They both worked on nuclear non-proliferation.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:18 AM   #125 
     - What it MIGHT do.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 06:48 PM   #77 
     - So he said some things  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 07:00 PM   #78 
        - RTTT is based on Duncan's work in Chicago.  LWolf   Aug-16-10 07:51 PM   #80 
        - the whole turnaround/charter model busts unions. you don't get it.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:35 AM   #103 
           - There are charters with unions.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:08 AM   #122 
              - oooh! a union opening a charter! well, i guess that settles it, then.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 04:16 AM   #137 
                 - You're disrespecting the efforts of your union brothers and sisters like Chicago charter teachers.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 05:11 AM   #144 
                    - lol. chicago is the city where charters can't join the chicago teachers'  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 06:02 AM   #150 
     - obama is also pushing it. you just can't see it, maybe due to lack of historical perspective.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:33 AM   #101 
        - Let me know what union local at which school in DE or TN was busted as a result of RTTT.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:03 AM   #121 
           - lol. you're the only one playing word games, breaking contracts is indeed union-busting.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 04:32 AM   #138 
              - So no answer on my request for specific examples. I didn't think so.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 04:50 AM   #141 
                 - i gave you specific examples. you simply continue to pretend you don't understand.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 04:56 AM   #142 
                    - Name the school and union local Obama busted.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 05:01 AM   #143 
                       - straw. it's all you got. aft & nea are national unions.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 05:44 AM   #147 
  - Since the battles of the past were never settled..  Fumesucker   Aug-16-10 02:31 PM   #53 
     - Wow. What.  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 05:12 PM   #63 
  - dupe  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 01:06 PM   #43 
  - He said that to make the Clintons' heads explode, mostly  Recursion   Aug-16-10 05:58 PM   #72 
  - Outdated narratives like should prohibition continue and is militarism killing our country?  EFerrari   Aug-16-10 09:47 PM   #84 
  - More like,  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 10:28 PM   #86 
     - The fact that you cannot contextualize events doesn't mean  EFerrari   Aug-16-10 10:35 PM   #87 
     - Ugly assumption but there is a difference between contexualizing events  Radical Activist   Aug-16-10 11:28 PM   #94 
        - "stuck in the past" - it's all about the denigration. it was the gop pushing that crap.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:49 AM   #108 
        - I'm glad you're a fan of Saul.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 01:34 AM   #116 
        - Not an assumption. You talked about prohibition and militarism  EFerrari   Aug-17-10 10:41 AM   #157 
           - It's ugly to suggest  Radical Activist   Aug-18-10 09:20 PM   #172 
     - uh -- that was the other side.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:34 AM   #102 
  - I'm more than willing to believe something good can come out of a Democratic President  laughingliberal   Aug-17-10 01:05 AM   #112 
     - Trickle Down?  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:14 AM   #123 
        - Giving $800 billion to the banksters (which he supported) & then having 'limited resources' for jobs  laughingliberal   Aug-17-10 06:02 PM   #168 
  - Pretty definitive so far.  mmonk   Aug-16-10 12:54 PM   #40 
  - I don't think...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 01:16 PM   #45 
     - Well it is a good way to confirm or deny.  mmonk   Aug-16-10 02:04 PM   #51 
     - It's pretty representative of DU.  EFerrari   Aug-16-10 09:50 PM   #85 
     - Wait....I need to check my gender identity. n/t  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 11:03 PM   #89 
     - i don't see the big generational divide.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:40 AM   #106 
        - Update: there is currently a massive generational divide visible.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-17-10 01:10 AM   #114 
           - update: the only segment that's majority "satisfied" is 25-35, & not by much.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 01:43 AM   #118 
              - I bet that makes you really happy.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:20 AM   #126 
              - i bet you're wrong, but nice job of baiting. good thing you changed that che avatar, btw.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 02:33 AM   #128 
                 - Do you think that got more clever than the last four times you brought it up?  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:50 AM   #131 
                 - do you think the bullshit about hating obama gets any cleverer the 2000th time you  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 03:57 AM   #134 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-10 02:51 AM   #132 
                    - i note the personal attack & blatant namecalling. so sorry your arguments have so little merit  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 05:48 AM   #148 
              - update:  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 04:06 AM   #136 
              - Sure, but 56% is very different to 20%.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-17-10 05:54 AM   #149 
  - It Appears That...  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 02:42 PM   #54 
  - Anyone younger than 45....  bvar22   Aug-16-10 03:17 PM   #55 
  - Excellent point, bvar22.  Individualist   Aug-16-10 04:01 PM   #59 
  - That is true. All I remember as a kid is my parents worshipping Reagan.  Jennicut   Aug-16-10 05:57 PM   #71 
  - well, they did. more than voted for republicans in that age group.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 12:37 AM   #104 
  - That's why Grayson seems like such an outlier to younger people.  EFerrari   Aug-16-10 10:37 PM   #88 
  - FDR is a hero to me too, also Eleanor R.  Mimosa   Aug-17-10 04:36 AM   #139 
  - Maybe part of the reason is that young people aren't looking for something else.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 12:13 PM   #160 
  - Maybe another couple terms of Karl, Dick, and George?  divvy   Aug-16-10 04:04 PM   #60 
  - The GOP made me a Solidarity Democrat. They are NUTS and need another election beating. n/t  deacon   Aug-16-10 07:42 PM   #79 
  - As a senior senior citizen who watces a lot of daytime tv cable news,  sad sally   Aug-16-10 04:22 PM   #61 
  - I think the political climate now  MerryBlooms   Aug-16-10 05:30 PM   #67 
  - well this certainly helps clarify things. . . .  Barack2theFuture   Aug-16-10 05:25 PM   #66 
  - I'm almost 64.  Blue_In_AK   Aug-16-10 05:34 PM   #68 
  - We're throwing it into reverse actually on some things.  mmonk   Aug-16-10 06:17 PM   #76 
  - Older than forty-five, but I'll not tell you it's by nine years,...heh.heh..  Ferretherder   Aug-16-10 09:04 PM   #82 
  - LOLOLOLOLOL!  Steely_Dan   Aug-16-10 09:42 PM   #83 
  - The Depends Generation is a cranky bunch.  Kaleva   Aug-16-10 11:25 PM   #93 
  - Hey you! Get off my lawn!  Cherchez la Femme   Aug-16-10 11:30 PM   #95 
     - As I run (hobble) away to my car parked in a handicapped parking spot.  Kaleva   Aug-16-10 11:38 PM   #96 
        - Wheezing  Cherchez la Femme   Aug-17-10 12:40 AM   #107 
  - The old Dems were in bed with the Southern racists.  Kaleva   Aug-16-10 11:56 PM   #97 
  - You are talking really Old Dems.  McCamy Taylor   Aug-17-10 01:05 AM   #113 
  - Hey the Roosevelt Dems voted for Obama nearly as much as boomers.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:39 AM   #129 
     - you keep repeating that slur when it's been pointed out to you multiple times, with  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 04:05 AM   #135 
        - It must really burn you that boomers voted Nixon over McGovern when the voting age was lowered.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 04:49 AM   #140 
           - i remember how you just make shit up. boomers = born 1946-1961.  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 05:43 AM   #146 
              - All of those numbres confirm what I just wrote.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 12:04 PM   #159 
                 - let's review what you wrote:  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 02:00 PM   #164 
                 - .  Hannah Bell   Aug-17-10 02:00 PM   #165 
  - It's always funny, the DU polls are something that the flaming blue links of frustration can't hide.  Bluebear   Aug-16-10 11:58 PM   #98 
  - kick  Bluebear   Aug-17-10 11:15 PM   #169 
  - 63. My idea of a Democrat is Harry S Truman, and Mr. Obama could not  old mark   Aug-17-10 12:18 AM   #99 
  - Truman started an unpopular war of choice, dropped the A-bomb, bustead the railroad strike, and  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:33 AM   #127 
     - Korea was certainly not a war of choice, and I think he was right to drop the bomb ending the war.  old mark   Aug-17-10 07:44 AM   #153 
  - I am 50, and he is about average for a Democrat. Anyone who expects miracles from our  McCamy Taylor   Aug-17-10 01:01 AM   #111 
  - And that does not say much for this country  Angry Dragon   Aug-17-10 01:43 AM   #117 
  - Based on this poll, we can safely conclude that  woo me with science   Aug-17-10 02:18 AM   #124 
  - Yep.  Radical Activist   Aug-17-10 02:40 AM   #130 
  - I say "dissatisfied" here, but would never say that on a telephone poll. n/t  eridani   Aug-17-10 03:54 AM   #133 
  - I'm an oldy & moldy  H2O Man   Aug-17-10 05:20 AM   #145 
  - I'm only 37 but might perceive a bit older because I started paying attention earlier than most  TheKentuckian   Aug-17-10 07:37 AM   #152 
  - Perhaps it's nothing more than a diversion and we fall for it each and every time.  nc4bo   Aug-17-10 08:46 AM   #156 
     - Thank you. I'm glad it read a little better than I figured  TheKentuckian   Aug-17-10 01:21 PM   #162 
  - truly sad both over 45 and not satisfied  dembotoz   Aug-17-10 08:37 AM   #154 
  - I'll be voting blue this fall and for all falls thereafter  saltpoint   Aug-17-10 08:38 AM   #155 
  - I am between 25 and 35 and I am not satisfied with the Obama Administration.  nyc 4 Biden   Aug-17-10 10:47 AM   #158 
  - Thanks for this poll Steely Dan. I've wondered the same thing. I did a similar poll  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-17-10 12:27 PM   #161 
  - Maybe because those of us of a certain age remember REAL liberal gov't.  Stoic   Aug-17-10 01:29 PM   #163 
  - I agree entirely.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-17-10 02:01 PM   #166 
  - I'm over 45 and not satisfied with the Obama administration  MissDeeds   Aug-17-10 02:49 PM   #167 
  - 42  ibegurpard   Aug-17-10 11:44 PM   #170 
  - I'm an old fairly happy Dem  DFLforever   Aug-19-10 03:49 AM   #175 
 

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