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Mon Aug-16-10 11:26 AM
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| -Old vs. New Dems - A Poll |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:04 AM |
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Just another old, disgruntled dem here. |
femmocrat |
Aug-16-10 11:09 AM |
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That would be excellent as well... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:10 AM |
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I thought the same thing. New Dems implies NDC. |
Individualist |
Aug-16-10 11:14 AM |
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Yeah...I suppose that there is a lot... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:27 AM |
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Also I'd like to know - Is he doing too much or is he doing too little |
jailthecrooks |
Aug-16-10 01:16 PM |
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Other? |
one_voice |
Aug-16-10 11:12 AM |
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I understand that this is what makes the poll difficult... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:13 AM |
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Thinking about it a little more... |
one_voice |
Aug-16-10 11:19 AM |
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I Understand What... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:24 AM |
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Obama has struggled with older people. |
Renew Deal |
Aug-16-10 11:12 AM |
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I am 50 years old, and I am appalled by the Obama administration. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 11:14 AM |
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I guess old wolves run in similar packs - though my pack is almost a decade older than yours. |
T Wolf |
Aug-16-10 11:19 AM |
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You are right. And it is, in this old wolf's opinion, a travesty. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 11:37 AM |
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The benefit of experience: it's harder to pull the wool over our eyes |
jailthecrooks |
Aug-16-10 01:46 PM |
#48 |
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Yeah, no older person bought into that crap about 'death panels' |
WonderGrunion |
Aug-17-10 06:20 AM |
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This age dissatisfaction only underscores or confirms |
Poboy |
Aug-16-10 06:07 PM |
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absolutely correct |
Skittles |
Aug-17-10 01:51 AM |
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Yes, and you were "appalled" with the Obama campaign to. |
Renew Deal |
Aug-16-10 11:20 AM |
#10 |
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And a lot aren't |
HERVEPA |
Aug-16-10 11:26 AM |
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+10000 |
Dappleganger |
Aug-16-10 12:27 PM |
#34 |
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+20000 |
laughingliberal |
Aug-17-10 12:53 AM |
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I'm not a 'recycled opponent'. Indeed, I supported Obama from the |
Subdivisions |
Aug-16-10 11:31 AM |
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Not sure where the problem is with that. |
GreenArrow |
Aug-16-10 11:34 AM |
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If one was "prescient" enough to see that Obama was lousy |
Renew Deal |
Aug-16-10 11:47 AM |
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Alternately, |
GreenArrow |
Aug-16-10 12:05 PM |
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The funny part for me |
zipplewrath |
Aug-16-10 11:51 AM |
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I'm just the opposite. Me, the one who'd never thought she'd go out knocking on doors, |
nc4bo |
Aug-16-10 12:10 PM |
#27 |
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As a Kucinich supporter, |
GreenArrow |
Aug-16-10 08:09 PM |
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Green Arrow speaks for me. |
FredStembottom |
Aug-17-10 12:39 AM |
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Yes, I was. I was appalled by his center-right policies. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 11:36 AM |
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The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent |
jailthecrooks |
Aug-16-10 01:55 PM |
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Perhaps it's a good thing he didn't take the book I sent him after all. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 02:31 PM |
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Shudder to think |
jailthecrooks |
Aug-16-10 03:30 PM |
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And what about the ones who aren't "recycled critics"? |
walldude |
Aug-16-10 12:15 PM |
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Welcome |
Dappleganger |
Aug-16-10 12:30 PM |
#35 |
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Ditto. 72 years old. |
emilyg |
Aug-16-10 12:14 PM |
#29 |
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Maybe those of us who have never known job security |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 11:32 AM |
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True. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 12:26 PM |
#33 |
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It's come up a lot during education threads |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 01:54 PM |
#49 |
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and never a shortage of folks who imagine pulling every worker to |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-16-10 11:20 PM |
#91 |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-17-10 12:56 AM |
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you're patting yourself on the back for that, or what? |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-16-10 11:16 PM |
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We can use some younger participants n/t |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:45 AM |
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45+ lady here and going by the present #'s, see I'm not alone in how I feel. |
nc4bo |
Aug-16-10 11:51 AM |
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Time of day |
zipplewrath |
Aug-16-10 11:53 AM |
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Yeah...I think you make a good point. |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 12:02 PM |
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Message boards in general skew older |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 06:09 PM |
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. |
Bluebear |
Aug-18-10 06:14 PM |
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I can see the dramatic difference at kos. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-18-10 09:24 PM |
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I Agree... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:54 AM |
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One of the most refershing things about Obama's campaign |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 12:11 PM |
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Fighting, and dying |
zipplewrath |
Aug-16-10 12:20 PM |
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Excellent Point... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 12:26 PM |
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careful? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 12:40 PM |
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Make sure you understand who you are addressing |
zipplewrath |
Aug-16-10 03:52 PM |
#58 |
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Respect your juniors. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 05:19 PM |
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And therein lies the problem. |
quakerboy |
Aug-19-10 12:39 AM |
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what, precisely, has changed? |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:28 AM |
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I want a new drug. One that won't make me sick. -- Huey Lewis |
Common Sense Party |
Aug-17-10 01:58 AM |
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Nah, they want to still rehash stuff that matters little to us. I mean, why should Gen X matter at |
Jennicut |
Aug-16-10 12:30 PM |
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I had a conversation about this with a leftie boomer friend of mine. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 12:52 PM |
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I agree but they don't want us. This thread makes that obvious. |
Jennicut |
Aug-16-10 12:56 PM |
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We are close in age |
JustAnotherGen |
Aug-16-10 01:30 PM |
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I totally agree with all of that. The Rethugs are a total waste of time. |
Jennicut |
Aug-16-10 01:44 PM |
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I really like what you wrote |
Angry Dragon |
Aug-17-10 01:26 AM |
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My sons don't remember Watergate, Vietnam, or the Civil Rights battles. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 03:40 PM |
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DU is dominated by boomers. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 05:24 PM |
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Hold on, now, Jennicut-- |
janx |
Aug-16-10 05:43 PM |
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+1 |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 05:54 PM |
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yes, knowing anything about history would be a big mistake. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-16-10 11:22 PM |
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Yes, because Obama never said |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 12:44 PM |
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And your point? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 01:06 PM |
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Obama seems quite a bit like a Reagan Democrat to me. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 02:26 PM |
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Reagan pushed deregulation. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 05:05 PM |
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Reagan didn't push anything very hard |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 06:12 PM |
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They both worked on nuclear non-proliferation. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:18 AM |
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What it MIGHT do. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 06:48 PM |
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So he said some things |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 07:00 PM |
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RTTT is based on Duncan's work in Chicago. |
LWolf |
Aug-16-10 07:51 PM |
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the whole turnaround/charter model busts unions. you don't get it. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:35 AM |
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There are charters with unions. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:08 AM |
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oooh! a union opening a charter! well, i guess that settles it, then. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 04:16 AM |
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You're disrespecting the efforts of your union brothers and sisters like Chicago charter teachers. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 05:11 AM |
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lol. chicago is the city where charters can't join the chicago teachers' |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 06:02 AM |
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obama is also pushing it. you just can't see it, maybe due to lack of historical perspective. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:33 AM |
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Let me know what union local at which school in DE or TN was busted as a result of RTTT. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:03 AM |
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lol. you're the only one playing word games, breaking contracts is indeed union-busting. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 04:32 AM |
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So no answer on my request for specific examples. I didn't think so. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 04:50 AM |
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i gave you specific examples. you simply continue to pretend you don't understand. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 04:56 AM |
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Name the school and union local Obama busted. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 05:01 AM |
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straw. it's all you got. aft & nea are national unions. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 05:44 AM |
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Since the battles of the past were never settled.. |
Fumesucker |
Aug-16-10 02:31 PM |
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Wow. What. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 05:12 PM |
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dupe |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 01:06 PM |
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He said that to make the Clintons' heads explode, mostly |
Recursion |
Aug-16-10 05:58 PM |
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Outdated narratives like should prohibition continue and is militarism killing our country? |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-10 09:47 PM |
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More like, |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 10:28 PM |
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The fact that you cannot contextualize events doesn't mean |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-10 10:35 PM |
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Ugly assumption but there is a difference between contexualizing events |
Radical Activist |
Aug-16-10 11:28 PM |
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"stuck in the past" - it's all about the denigration. it was the gop pushing that crap. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:49 AM |
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I'm glad you're a fan of Saul. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 01:34 AM |
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Not an assumption. You talked about prohibition and militarism |
EFerrari |
Aug-17-10 10:41 AM |
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It's ugly to suggest |
Radical Activist |
Aug-18-10 09:20 PM |
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uh -- that was the other side. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:34 AM |
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I'm more than willing to believe something good can come out of a Democratic President |
laughingliberal |
Aug-17-10 01:05 AM |
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Trickle Down? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:14 AM |
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Giving $800 billion to the banksters (which he supported) & then having 'limited resources' for jobs |
laughingliberal |
Aug-17-10 06:02 PM |
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Pretty definitive so far. |
mmonk |
Aug-16-10 12:54 PM |
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I don't think... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 01:16 PM |
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Well it is a good way to confirm or deny. |
mmonk |
Aug-16-10 02:04 PM |
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It's pretty representative of DU. |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-10 09:50 PM |
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Wait....I need to check my gender identity. n/t |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 11:03 PM |
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i don't see the big generational divide. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:40 AM |
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Update: there is currently a massive generational divide visible. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-17-10 01:10 AM |
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update: the only segment that's majority "satisfied" is 25-35, & not by much. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 01:43 AM |
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I bet that makes you really happy. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:20 AM |
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i bet you're wrong, but nice job of baiting. good thing you changed that che avatar, btw. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 02:33 AM |
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Do you think that got more clever than the last four times you brought it up? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:50 AM |
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do you think the bullshit about hating obama gets any cleverer the 2000th time you |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 03:57 AM |
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Aug-17-10 02:51 AM |
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i note the personal attack & blatant namecalling. so sorry your arguments have so little merit |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 05:48 AM |
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update: |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 04:06 AM |
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Sure, but 56% is very different to 20%. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Aug-17-10 05:54 AM |
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It Appears That... |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 02:42 PM |
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Anyone younger than 45.... |
bvar22 |
Aug-16-10 03:17 PM |
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Excellent point, bvar22. |
Individualist |
Aug-16-10 04:01 PM |
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That is true. All I remember as a kid is my parents worshipping Reagan. |
Jennicut |
Aug-16-10 05:57 PM |
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well, they did. more than voted for republicans in that age group. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 12:37 AM |
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That's why Grayson seems like such an outlier to younger people. |
EFerrari |
Aug-16-10 10:37 PM |
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FDR is a hero to me too, also Eleanor R. |
Mimosa |
Aug-17-10 04:36 AM |
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Maybe part of the reason is that young people aren't looking for something else. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 12:13 PM |
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Maybe another couple terms of Karl, Dick, and George? |
divvy |
Aug-16-10 04:04 PM |
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The GOP made me a Solidarity Democrat. They are NUTS and need another election beating. n/t |
deacon |
Aug-16-10 07:42 PM |
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As a senior senior citizen who watces a lot of daytime tv cable news, |
sad sally |
Aug-16-10 04:22 PM |
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I think the political climate now |
MerryBlooms |
Aug-16-10 05:30 PM |
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well this certainly helps clarify things. . . . |
Barack2theFuture |
Aug-16-10 05:25 PM |
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I'm almost 64. |
Blue_In_AK |
Aug-16-10 05:34 PM |
#68 |
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We're throwing it into reverse actually on some things. |
mmonk |
Aug-16-10 06:17 PM |
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Older than forty-five, but I'll not tell you it's by nine years,...heh.heh.. |
Ferretherder |
Aug-16-10 09:04 PM |
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LOLOLOLOLOL! |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-16-10 09:42 PM |
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The Depends Generation is a cranky bunch. |
Kaleva |
Aug-16-10 11:25 PM |
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Hey you! Get off my lawn! |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-16-10 11:30 PM |
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As I run (hobble) away to my car parked in a handicapped parking spot. |
Kaleva |
Aug-16-10 11:38 PM |
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Wheezing |
Cherchez la Femme |
Aug-17-10 12:40 AM |
#107 |
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The old Dems were in bed with the Southern racists. |
Kaleva |
Aug-16-10 11:56 PM |
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You are talking really Old Dems. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-17-10 01:05 AM |
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Hey the Roosevelt Dems voted for Obama nearly as much as boomers. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:39 AM |
#129 |
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you keep repeating that slur when it's been pointed out to you multiple times, with |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 04:05 AM |
#135 |
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It must really burn you that boomers voted Nixon over McGovern when the voting age was lowered. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 04:49 AM |
#140 |
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i remember how you just make shit up. boomers = born 1946-1961. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 05:43 AM |
#146 |
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All of those numbres confirm what I just wrote. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 12:04 PM |
#159 |
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let's review what you wrote: |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 02:00 PM |
#164 |
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. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-17-10 02:00 PM |
#165 |
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It's always funny, the DU polls are something that the flaming blue links of frustration can't hide. |
Bluebear |
Aug-16-10 11:58 PM |
#98 |
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kick |
Bluebear |
Aug-17-10 11:15 PM |
#169 |
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63. My idea of a Democrat is Harry S Truman, and Mr. Obama could not |
old mark |
Aug-17-10 12:18 AM |
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Truman started an unpopular war of choice, dropped the A-bomb, bustead the railroad strike, and |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:33 AM |
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Korea was certainly not a war of choice, and I think he was right to drop the bomb ending the war. |
old mark |
Aug-17-10 07:44 AM |
#153 |
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I am 50, and he is about average for a Democrat. Anyone who expects miracles from our |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-17-10 01:01 AM |
#111 |
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And that does not say much for this country |
Angry Dragon |
Aug-17-10 01:43 AM |
#117 |
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Based on this poll, we can safely conclude that |
woo me with science |
Aug-17-10 02:18 AM |
#124 |
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Yep. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-17-10 02:40 AM |
#130 |
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I say "dissatisfied" here, but would never say that on a telephone poll. n/t |
eridani |
Aug-17-10 03:54 AM |
#133 |
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I'm an oldy & moldy |
H2O Man |
Aug-17-10 05:20 AM |
#145 |
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I'm only 37 but might perceive a bit older because I started paying attention earlier than most |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-17-10 07:37 AM |
#152 |
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Perhaps it's nothing more than a diversion and we fall for it each and every time. |
nc4bo |
Aug-17-10 08:46 AM |
#156 |
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Thank you. I'm glad it read a little better than I figured |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-17-10 01:21 PM |
#162 |
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truly sad both over 45 and not satisfied |
dembotoz |
Aug-17-10 08:37 AM |
#154 |
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I'll be voting blue this fall and for all falls thereafter |
saltpoint |
Aug-17-10 08:38 AM |
#155 |
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I am between 25 and 35 and I am not satisfied with the Obama Administration. |
nyc 4 Biden |
Aug-17-10 10:47 AM |
#158 |
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Thanks for this poll Steely Dan. I've wondered the same thing. I did a similar poll |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-17-10 12:27 PM |
#161 |
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Maybe because those of us of a certain age remember REAL liberal gov't. |
Stoic |
Aug-17-10 01:29 PM |
#163 |
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I agree entirely. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-17-10 02:01 PM |
#166 |
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I'm over 45 and not satisfied with the Obama administration |
MissDeeds |
Aug-17-10 02:49 PM |
#167 |
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42 |
ibegurpard |
Aug-17-10 11:44 PM |
#170 |
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I'm an old fairly happy Dem |
DFLforever |
Aug-19-10 03:49 AM |
#175 |
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