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Stargazer09 Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 11:11 PM
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92. LOL
Like I said, I think that change will come from within. I'm not blaming any victims. I'm just stating a fact.

My sons are in Scouts because I want them to be prepared for the future, and to honor my late father, who was an Eagle Scout.

If the group that they belong to started to act bigoted or hateful, I would pull my sons out of the program until we moved to a more progressive place. But that fact is, they aren't doing anything like that. No preaching, no hatred, no politics. They are simply trying to teach the boys how to take care of our planet and be good citizens.

Whatever, yourself.
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  -Boy Scout to outfit 50 in back-to-school drive (and an estimated 8,000 from others) The Straight Story  Aug-15-10 03:25 PM   #0 
  - That's nice. Boy Scouts of America is a homophobic discriminatory organization.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 03:26 PM   #1 
  - So, by association, Matt Tolliver is  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 03:41 PM   #2 
  - At the very least, he's heard about the controversy and been  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:20 PM   #7 
  - Wow.  Brickbat   Aug-15-10 04:21 PM   #8 
  - So, does this mean you approve of organizations teaching  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:34 PM   #11 
     - No, it doesn't mean that at all.  Brickbat   Aug-15-10 04:38 PM   #13 
     - It is a problem.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:44 PM   #15 
        - Noted.  Brickbat   Aug-15-10 04:47 PM   #19 
        - Frankly, it says more about the Mormons than kids.  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 05:55 PM   #44 
           - The BSA didn't have to embrace bigotry.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 06:08 PM   #47 
              - The BSA would have lost so much funding as to endanger the org  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 06:10 PM   #48 
                 - So you think that money is a valid reason to embrace bigotry?  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 06:16 PM   #51 
                    - Reasonable people understand it was blackmail.  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 06:24 PM   #52 
                       - If any one council and the troops in it are quietly accepting  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 06:38 PM   #56 
                          - If only you knew.  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 06:46 PM   #58 
                          - Good. I'm glad you are an ally.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 06:51 PM   #60 
                             - Understood.  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 06:54 PM   #61 
                          - The troop that has been located at our church for many, many  JerseygirlCT   Aug-15-10 07:54 PM   #71 
                             - To do so would have meant the loss of their charter. n/t  oneshooter   Aug-15-10 08:49 PM   #77 
                                - If the leader truly disagreed with the national organization  JerseygirlCT   Aug-16-10 04:53 PM   #102 
     - You've no doubt been told before that not all troops peddle that hate.  KittyWampus   Aug-15-10 05:00 PM   #21 
        - Yes. I know.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 05:08 PM   #22 
           - Are the scouts who are "very good people" still homophobic bigots? nt  hack89   Aug-15-10 05:15 PM   #25 
              - At the very least they've chosen to remain members of a  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 05:33 PM   #29 
                 - You really are bitter, aren't you?  hack89   Aug-15-10 06:57 PM   #63 
                 - Nice way to blow off the importance of discriminatory organizations.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 07:01 PM   #64 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-10 07:39 PM   #68 
                 - So your solution to bigotry is to shit all over a kid  hack89   Aug-15-10 10:07 PM   #82 
                    - So a gay talking about a discrimination is full of "hatred" & their compass is broken?  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 10:08 PM   #83 
                       - He labeled a young kid as a homophobic bigot  hack89   Aug-16-10 06:32 AM   #100 
                 - How do you see anything changing if not for  JerseygirlCT   Aug-16-10 04:55 PM   #103 
                    - The scouts I work with all the time  hack89   Aug-16-10 07:13 PM   #105 
                 - Gays in the military.  redwitch   Aug-15-10 07:57 PM   #72 
                    - The Military has to be a different matter  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 08:01 PM   #73 
                       - The military is also a public institution  PacerLJ35   Aug-16-10 07:45 PM   #108 
  - I really like you ThomCat, but I have to say  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 04:33 PM   #10 
  - I think defending any organization that actively promotes bigotry  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:36 PM   #12 
  - ThomCat, I am not defending the organization  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 04:43 PM   #14 
     - Not in this thread you're not.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:46 PM   #17 
        - I guess we'll just have to disagree - n/t  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 04:56 PM   #20 
        - How many people do you need to swing that broad brush? n/t  PavePusher   Aug-15-10 11:07 PM   #89 
  - It's quite different  RetroLounge   Aug-15-10 05:14 PM   #24 
     - Sorry - it was the first analogy I could think of. Obviously.  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 05:35 PM   #31 
  - I spent years as a Boy Scout and became Eagle.  Radical Activist   Aug-15-10 05:15 PM   #26 
  - That's amazing!  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 05:39 PM   #36 
  - There was no reason for it to come up at scout meetings.  Radical Activist   Aug-15-10 05:54 PM   #43 
     - You may be right.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 06:15 PM   #50 
  - I also am an Eagle scout and never heard discussions on Gays as a kid.  NutmegYankee   Aug-15-10 06:04 PM   #46 
  - Nice assumptions.  PavePusher   Aug-15-10 11:02 PM   #85 
  - My point is EXACTLY what I said. The Boy Scouts are a discriminatory homophobic organization.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:34 PM   #30 
     - And the dems in power are as well - DADT and gay marriage. WHY would you vote for them?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 06:24 PM   #53 
        - +1  Contrary1   Aug-15-10 06:36 PM   #55 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-10 06:41 PM   #57 
        - Boy Scouts of America is a homophobic discriminatory organization.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 09:49 PM   #81 
  - So how's your back-to-school clothing drive going? nt  WolverineDG   Aug-15-10 03:45 PM   #3 
  - +1. Organizations are what you make of them.  Statistical   Aug-15-10 03:50 PM   #5 
     - What gets me is this:  WolverineDG   Aug-15-10 06:31 PM   #54 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-15-10 03:51 PM   #6 
  - Oh well. "Organizations are what you make of them."  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:39 PM   #37 
  - People need to be reminded that this organization FIGHTS for  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 04:28 PM   #9 
  - +1  AlabamaLibrul   Aug-15-10 04:45 PM   #16 
  - Really?  digitaln3rd   Aug-15-10 04:47 PM   #18 
  - Take your passive aggressive snark elsewhere. The Boys Scouts FIGHT for the right to discriminate.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:36 PM   #33 
  - No good deed goes unpunished. BTW, did you vote for Obama?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 05:24 PM   #28 
     - Of course I voted for Obama. What's your insinuation?  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:35 PM   #32 
        - What has been his stand on gays? (nt)  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 05:37 PM   #34 
           - I would have thought you would have paid more attention. I don't have time to fill you in right now.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:38 PM   #35 
              - So you won't be voting for him next election on principle?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 05:44 PM   #38 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-15-10 05:45 PM   #40 
                 - I just said as much beneath you here. Fucking unreal.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:46 PM   #42 
                 - Tryin' to pick a fight are ya? What's YOUR views on the homophobia of the BSA?  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 05:46 PM   #41 
                    - My view?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 06:04 PM   #45 
                       - well stated  MrsMatt   Aug-15-10 06:10 PM   #49 
                       - Try being someone who the Boy Scouts don't want to let IN & come back and comment.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 09:44 PM   #79 
                          - So you not getting into the Boy Scouts  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:02 PM   #86 
                          - Who said I "hate" every boy scout? Yeah, me not getting in is irritating & you tolerate it.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 11:08 PM   #90 
                             - Sure  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:12 PM   #93 
                                - I wouldn't let my kids in an organization that excluded blacks or Jews, for instance.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 11:14 PM   #95 
                          - I'm female - don't think the boy scouts would let me join. n/t  MrsMatt   Aug-16-10 02:31 AM   #98 
                             - ha ha good one  Bluebear   Aug-16-10 10:33 AM   #101 
                       - +1  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 06:46 PM   #59 
                          - 1) Nobody "bashed" the boy. 2) 'the organization as a whole isn't the evil monster ' =  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 09:45 PM   #80 
                             - Uh, no, I don't, actually  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:00 PM   #84 
                                - 'Hatred such as yours' - Yes. always blame the victim.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 11:06 PM   #88 
                                   - LOL  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:11 PM   #92 
  - Good for him! Well done, Matt!  Brickbat   Aug-15-10 03:48 PM   #4 
  - Maybe his Eagle Scout project should have been GLBT rights?  RetroLounge   Aug-15-10 05:11 PM   #23 
  - No fundy nutballs here in Rhode Island  hack89   Aug-15-10 05:16 PM   #27 
     - If so, then I hope they are mounting a fight to overturn the BSA's  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 05:44 PM   #39 
        - I think they are more concerned with raising their kids.  hack89   Aug-15-10 06:54 PM   #62 
           - Then the BSA gets a never-ending pass to keep discriminating.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 07:02 PM   #65 
              - Atheism is a choice, being gay is not  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 07:22 PM   #66 
                 - Because the BSA discriminates against both.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 07:28 PM   #67 
                    - As a Christian here I can tell you  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 07:44 PM   #69 
                       - Christians face stereotyping, but Jews, Muslims and Buddhists don't?  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 07:52 PM   #70 
                          - I was talking about HERE on DU  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 08:13 PM   #74 
                             - I'm talking about here on DU too.  ThomCat   Aug-15-10 08:34 PM   #76 
                                - Um...what the hell are you talking about?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-10 09:30 PM   #78 
  - Great, now are schools are being funded by militaristic homophobic bigots.  Odin2005   Aug-15-10 08:19 PM   #75 
  - Actually  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:04 PM   #87 
     - Boy Scouts of America is a homophobic discriminatory organization.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 11:09 PM   #91 
        - So don't join them  Stargazer09   Aug-15-10 11:13 PM   #94 
           - I can't join them, they won't have me. And you tolerate bigotry, ignoring me or not.  Bluebear   Aug-15-10 11:15 PM   #96 
              - +1,000,000,000,000,000,000  Odin2005   Aug-15-10 11:24 PM   #97 
  - I find it astonishing that so many choose to ignore the good deed this kid is doing.  proteus_lives   Aug-16-10 03:36 AM   #99 
  - Welcome to politics  PacerLJ35   Aug-16-10 07:41 PM   #106 
  - This sounds like a great project...my son became a Life Scout this past weekend, so he needs  Pendrench   Aug-16-10 07:11 PM   #104 
  - He's obviously an evil homophobic child if he's made it that far  PacerLJ35   Aug-16-10 07:42 PM   #107 
     - Hi PacerLJ35 - Thanks for your kind words...he also went to the Jamboree a few weeks ago and had a  Pendrench   Aug-16-10 09:32 PM   #110 
  - Good job  PacerLJ35   Aug-16-10 07:46 PM   #109 
 

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