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| 7. nothing succeeds like failure that makes tons of $$ for corporations anyway nt |
| -Bob Herbert: "Obama's problem is that he did not make job creation the nation's highest priority" |
Better Believe It |
Aug-14-10 11:05 PM |
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k and r nt |
steve2470 |
Aug-14-10 11:06 PM |
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Obama's Problem Is He Didn't Make PEOPLE His Highest Priority |
Demeter |
Aug-15-10 02:29 AM |
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sure he did -- WEALTHY *people* got him jumping through hoops from the git go |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-15-10 09:32 AM |
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At That Level of $$$ They Aren't PEOPLE Any More |
Demeter |
Aug-15-10 01:41 PM |
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sure they are -- elitist people who write checks for campaigns |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-15-10 03:17 PM |
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K&R n/t |
OhioChick |
Aug-14-10 11:10 PM |
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Raise you a K/R |
emilyg |
Aug-15-10 12:15 AM |
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"If the Republicans had balked, and they would have," |
ProSense |
Aug-14-10 11:12 PM |
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No, he could've made their opposition so politically unpopular, |
Marr |
Aug-14-10 11:20 PM |
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You mean like they did |
ProSense |
Aug-14-10 11:24 PM |
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If we can both agree that it wasn't enough, where is the argument? |
Marr |
Aug-14-10 11:40 PM |
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Really? |
ProSense |
Aug-14-10 11:50 PM |
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You'd be surprised what rose colored glasses really do. That and....... |
pattmarty |
Aug-15-10 09:25 AM |
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100% |
Knight Hawk |
Aug-15-10 10:14 PM |
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For all his flaws, I miss Bill. |
tblue |
Aug-15-10 11:01 PM |
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If the Republicans had balked.... |
AlbertCat |
Aug-15-10 02:39 PM |
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The perils of democracy. |
hay rick |
Aug-15-10 07:01 PM |
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Huh? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 07:26 PM |
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Two obstacles. |
hay rick |
Aug-15-10 08:19 PM |
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Huh? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 07:26 PM |
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He is blaming them now and we are still deep without jobs. We needed |
fogonthelake |
Aug-15-10 08:19 PM |
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Aug-14-10 11:15 PM |
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nothing succeeds like failure that makes tons of $$ for corporations anyway nt |
msongs |
Aug-14-10 11:29 PM |
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$230 billloin was awarded for 'rebuild America,' road repair projects, modernizing the electric grid |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-14-10 11:31 PM |
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While $12+ trillion is being gambled for bankers |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-14-10 11:40 PM |
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have all the banks paid their debts back yet? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-15-10 12:09 AM |
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What debts? |
girl gone mad |
Aug-15-10 04:22 AM |
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Some "paid in back" in stock worth 0.66 for every dollar they took |
Lorien |
Aug-15-10 09:07 PM |
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Where is the "12+trillion" number coming from? |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-15-10 12:28 AM |
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Here, for example |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-15-10 07:49 AM |
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What Exactly Was the Bank Bailout Bill? |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-15-10 12:43 AM |
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You've missed quite a bit. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-15-10 04:26 AM |
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"hush-hush programs and crunches the hidden numbers" |
SunsetDreams |
Aug-15-10 04:39 AM |
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The inspector General overseeing TARP, Neil Barofsky, |
girl gone mad |
Aug-15-10 08:21 PM |
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That really demonstrates how puny, as Noriel Roubini put it, the stimulus plan was. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:46 PM |
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$230 billion.. |
sendero |
Aug-15-10 05:47 AM |
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China put billions into its infrastructure and I don't think it has worked either |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-15-10 12:33 PM |
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It actually seems to be working accordng to all recent reports I've read. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 01:18 PM |
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then we should send a party out to see how it's done? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Aug-15-10 01:53 PM |
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No need for that. Invest a few trillion in infrastructure, substantially increase mimimum wages, |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:30 PM |
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China's busy fixing the same problems we have |
Patchuli |
Aug-15-10 07:53 PM |
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China's |
dotymed |
Aug-16-10 07:15 AM |
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k to the r |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-14-10 11:49 PM |
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The waste is staggering yet even now we stay the course..to Davey Jones locker |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-14-10 11:56 PM |
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Have you seen the infrastructure in India?... but their economy is "blazing"... |
LooseWilly |
Aug-15-10 02:26 AM |
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I do not agree with this article ... |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-15-10 12:06 AM |
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Are you sure that it is the article that you don't agree with? |
LooseWilly |
Aug-15-10 02:58 AM |
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Excellent reiteration! |
rusty fender |
Aug-15-10 11:02 AM |
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Why thank you... |
LooseWilly |
Aug-15-10 05:00 PM |
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FAIL...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Aug-16-10 11:30 AM |
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You're kidding, right? |
pattmarty |
Aug-15-10 09:33 AM |
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Nope, just circlejerkular logic on display there. |
Mithreal |
Aug-15-10 05:16 PM |
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Of course not. Jobs? From the President? Don't be silly. It's Woodchuck 101. |
Mithreal |
Aug-15-10 05:10 PM |
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Even if he does make it his highest priority |
notesdev |
Aug-15-10 12:33 AM |
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He only has Advisors of the Conservative Mindset---the private |
OHdem10 |
Aug-15-10 12:37 AM |
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Too much of the money was given to the rich, with no meaningful strings. |
snot |
Aug-15-10 12:53 AM |
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Bingo!!!!!!! |
pattmarty |
Aug-15-10 09:34 AM |
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They only wanted to kick start the same corrupt, debt-based financial model that |
Marr |
Aug-15-10 11:28 AM |
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No, Obama's problem was the filibustering minority Repubs didn't make jobs Job #1 n/t |
krispos42 |
Aug-15-10 01:58 AM |
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Oooh, filibuster! Scary! Must run and hide! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-15-10 09:32 AM |
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It's obvious... |
sendero |
Aug-15-10 06:45 PM |
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2 parties |
dotymed |
Aug-16-10 07:30 AM |
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What filibuster? The fake pretend kind? Those can be easily overcome under Senate rules as ... |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:38 PM |
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Yeah, except that changing the rules would require Dems to go along... |
krispos42 |
Aug-15-10 10:51 PM |
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It's still not his number one priority. I don't think he will ever get it. |
dkf |
Aug-15-10 02:17 AM |
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"the public was poised to respond to bold leadership" |
XemaSab |
Aug-15-10 03:11 AM |
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Exactly n/t |
Steely_Dan |
Aug-15-10 12:45 PM |
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The job problem is related |
jeanpalmer |
Aug-15-10 05:05 AM |
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Very true.. We need to stem the flow of Chinese Junk in this country... |
lib2DaBone |
Aug-15-10 06:37 PM |
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So obvious.. |
sendero |
Aug-15-10 05:47 AM |
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How do yo spell Corporatist? |
JJW |
Aug-15-10 07:35 AM |
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+1 |
democracy1st |
Aug-15-10 08:47 AM |
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recommend |
TexasObserver |
Aug-15-10 07:35 AM |
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agreed K & R! |
Lost4words |
Aug-15-10 07:48 AM |
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He didn't miss the opportunity, thats a total misconception |
BootinUp |
Aug-15-10 07:56 AM |
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Oh gosh. A voice of reason. |
Diane R |
Aug-15-10 03:19 PM |
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"The design of our government is such that it reacts too slow " |
bvar22 |
Aug-15-10 05:10 PM |
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In these days of instant communication |
dotymed |
Aug-16-10 07:39 AM |
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So basically what you are saying |
BootinUp |
Aug-16-10 11:36 AM |
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So this form of government can't react effectively to crisis? We didn't see this kind of paralysis |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:42 PM |
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Maybe Obama should have stayed in the Senate |
BootinUp |
Aug-16-10 11:35 AM |
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It's never been about "the people", it's always been about |
mother earth |
Aug-15-10 08:23 AM |
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I would say its a democracy, just a poorly functioning one |
BootinUp |
Aug-15-10 08:44 AM |
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What we don't have |
BootinUp |
Aug-16-10 11:41 AM |
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K&R |
highplainsdem |
Aug-15-10 08:48 AM |
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It's still not a priority. His big thing now is deficit reduction with is |
Raineyb |
Aug-15-10 08:56 AM |
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Not true- he's provided MANY jobs in America |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Aug-15-10 08:57 AM |
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He listened too much to the DC eggheads at certain Centers. |
riskpeace |
Aug-15-10 09:46 AM |
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House plan to create 6 million jobs to rebuild transportation infrastructure rejected by White House |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 09:51 AM |
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Only 101 billion of the 787 billion in stimulus money is for infrastructure! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 10:00 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-15-10 10:29 AM |
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11.5 million jobs |
ProSense |
Aug-15-10 10:31 AM |
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What bi-partisan Republican/Democratic Senate group cut from the original stimulus bill |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 11:32 AM |
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How odd that Herbert has a blind eye when it comes to the Senate. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 03:41 PM |
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The Senate passed exactly what President Obama wanted. So what's your point? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:33 PM |
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Wow. A simple google search shows that isn't true. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 07:25 PM |
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Really? Well, if it isn't true how about posting the text of President Obama's stimulus proposal? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 08:46 PM |
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How cute. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 09:09 PM |
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I want desperately, to believe that President Obama |
dotymed |
Aug-16-10 07:47 AM |
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Well can you at least tell us what stimulus package President Obama proposed? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-16-10 12:04 PM |
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Once again, Mr. Herbert is on the money |
Iwillnevergiveup |
Aug-15-10 12:59 PM |
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WAR WAR WAR WAR is always the highest priority. nt |
valerief |
Aug-15-10 01:04 PM |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Aug-15-10 03:18 PM |
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Of course it is |
MissDeeds |
Aug-15-10 04:30 PM |
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Two more years, then all will be better |
impik |
Aug-15-10 01:16 PM |
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What does that mean? |
Quantess |
Aug-15-10 07:40 PM |
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"nation's highest priority" is the first clue to just how stupid this is |
gulliver |
Aug-15-10 01:17 PM |
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"The public was not poised to respond to bold leadership" Is that why people voted for Obama? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 01:25 PM |
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They have had bold leadership... |
gulliver |
Aug-15-10 02:13 PM |
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Yeah, really. Forget Wall St., the GOP, and the ConservaDems |
brentspeak |
Aug-15-10 02:47 PM |
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So Herbert, who has "miniscule influence", manages to also be one of Obama's "biggest obstacles"? |
brentspeak |
Aug-15-10 02:41 PM |
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"sideline conductors like Herbert" |
gulliver |
Aug-15-10 02:48 PM |
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The fact that he has no concept of the urgency to take action on climate change |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 03:39 PM |
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I had a former boss who said "there's no such thing as priorites" |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-15-10 03:58 PM |
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REC. nt. |
bertman |
Aug-15-10 02:44 PM |
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How can someone so ignorant of the stimulus bill have a NYT column? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 03:36 PM |
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Dumping money to keep big business afloat does not create jobs |
DatManFromNawlins |
Aug-15-10 03:43 PM |
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Are you unaware |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 03:49 PM |
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The money that went to infrastructure like roads and high speed rail was peanuts! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 07:02 PM |
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Yeah, fuck progress! And fuck any efforts to do anything good! |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 07:37 PM |
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Stop the personal attacks and accusing DU'ers of lying who you don't agree with. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 09:04 PM |
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You post an article which accuses Obama of not focusing on jobs |
Radical Activist |
Aug-15-10 09:15 PM |
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So are you retracting your false claim that I lied? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 10:19 PM |
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Please stop the ridiculous personal attacks. It's explicitly against the rules, you know. |
inna |
Aug-16-10 12:13 AM |
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So when did advocating a bigger and bolder jobs plan become a Republican talking point? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 06:58 PM |
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I agree when Obama was talking jobs he found very few on the other side listening. |
Johonny |
Aug-15-10 09:43 PM |
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What's a shame is that some posters can't tell a RW talking point from an obviously valid criticism |
inna |
Aug-16-10 12:21 AM |
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Obama....... |
BlueJac |
Aug-15-10 04:19 PM |
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Isn't Goldmann positioned to cash in on Cap & Trade ? |
stuart68 |
Aug-15-10 05:16 PM |
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K & R n/t |
ihavenobias |
Aug-15-10 04:26 PM |
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K&R |
Little Star |
Aug-15-10 05:25 PM |
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Even more important than the columns are the comments |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-15-10 05:27 PM |
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This one gave me a lump |
fogonthelake |
Aug-15-10 08:31 PM |
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I find the comments to be as valuable as the columns, sometimes more so |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-15-10 09:22 PM |
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Because we need less emphasis on the environment and on ending the wars? |
Orsino |
Aug-15-10 05:40 PM |
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Several thousand unemployed union members in Los Angeles demonstrated for jobs on Friday |
Better Believe It |
Aug-15-10 09:18 PM |
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About time. And you know what, more FTAs are not going to help either. |
inna |
Aug-16-10 12:24 AM |
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But one aspect of the problem.. |
blindpig |
Aug-16-10 07:58 AM |
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