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Thu Aug-12-10 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 10. Make up your mind, please. |
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Either those of us on the 'left of the left' are both wholly and solely responsible for the success or failure of the Democratic party or we're a minority fringe that sits at home in our pajamas and means nothing in the grander scheme of things.
Which is it?
Are we so important that we can 'disenfranchise' (and you're using the term incorrectly - 'cancel out' might work, assuming that is what you're talking about . . .) fellow Democrats or are we the minority fringe sitting on our butts and complaining?
Main Entry: dis·en·fran·chise
Pronunciation: \ˌdis-in-ˈfran-ˌchīz\
Function: transitive verb
Date: 1664
: to deprive of a franchise, of a legal right, or of some privilege or immunity; especially : to deprive of the right to vote
— dis·en·fran·chise·ment \-ˌchīz-mənt, -chəz-\ noun
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| -The internet left fringe needs to get out of their pajamas, realize governing is hard. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 12:44 PM |
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K&R. |
katandmoon |
Aug-12-10 12:47 PM |
#1 |
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The DC Bubble Has Good Reason to Fear the Activist Left |
Demeter |
Aug-12-10 04:53 PM |
#33 |
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The left pays attention but left of the left pays "close" attention and expects accountability. |
bjobotts |
Aug-13-10 12:13 AM |
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Agreed! But we need to differentiate who is Activist and who isn't, because there's |
patrice |
Aug-13-10 11:49 AM |
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This administration makes it clearer each day that they lack the courage of the left's convictions. |
BurtWorm |
Aug-12-10 12:48 PM |
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Because they don't share those convictions. nt |
Lorien |
Aug-12-10 01:58 PM |
#19 |
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Absolutely right -- but for 18 months now that msg has gone completely over DU heads!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-10 07:32 PM |
#46 |
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Bingo! n/t |
NorthCarolina |
Aug-13-10 08:55 AM |
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Because the True Left is supposed to BE it's own convictions and stop being dependent, so |
patrice |
Aug-13-10 11:51 AM |
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It's hard work to be president. |
LWolf |
Aug-12-10 12:48 PM |
#3 |
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Indeed it is. :) |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 01:28 PM |
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Sensible wood chucks already knew how hard it is to be president without having to be told. |
phasma ex machina |
Aug-12-10 06:32 PM |
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Obama walked into the biggest disaster of Gov since the GD with few honest members left |
bjobotts |
Aug-13-10 12:16 AM |
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And immediately appointed a center-right neoliberal cabinet and |
LWolf |
Aug-13-10 10:23 AM |
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All over again. n/t |
amandabeech |
Aug-13-10 09:44 AM |
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Yet you are perfectly okay with disenfranchising the votes of fellow Democrats in your own state. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-12-10 12:48 PM |
#4 |
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Make up your mind, please. |
enlightenment |
Aug-12-10 12:58 PM |
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Well, you can tacitly support the disenfranchisement.... |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-12-10 02:01 PM |
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Re-read the definition of disenfranchisement |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-12-10 06:25 PM |
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Let's see.... |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-12-10 08:47 PM |
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i'm sure i don't know what you're talking about. |
tomp |
Aug-12-10 10:22 PM |
#56 |
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A legally cast vote without its given effect constitutes disenfranchisement. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-13-10 10:08 AM |
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Yes that is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-12-10 10:51 PM |
#61 |
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The local and state parties were well-represented legally and firmly on our side... |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-13-10 09:46 AM |
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State not National |
gaiangreentree |
Aug-14-10 10:47 AM |
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Michigan too |
riverdale |
Aug-13-10 01:38 PM |
#104 |
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We are only responsible for the failures. |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-12-10 04:46 PM |
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interesting point. another way of looking at it is.... |
tomp |
Aug-12-10 10:24 PM |
#57 |
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Excellent point, though often I don't care what they think of me - a long as they |
truedelphi |
Aug-12-10 09:00 PM |
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The DU archives prove very helpful in spotlighting that claim of disenfranchisement. |
seafan |
Aug-12-10 01:56 PM |
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Thanks for the advice. |
Tommy_Carcetti |
Aug-12-10 02:05 PM |
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Hi seafan... |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 02:06 PM |
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Florida's political scene is a perpetual disaster area. |
seafan |
Aug-12-10 02:32 PM |
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I don't live in Florida |
bonnieS |
Aug-12-10 03:02 PM |
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That's strange. The primary candidates should be on it. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 03:35 PM |
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Just checked. No judges on ours. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 03:40 PM |
#29 |
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Is your Mom's neighbor a registered independent? If so, the judges will generally be the only names |
seafan |
Aug-12-10 03:41 PM |
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Thanks |
bonnieS |
Aug-13-10 06:38 AM |
#74 |
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There are county judge and circuit judge selections that will vary with voter location. |
seafan |
Aug-13-10 08:34 AM |
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everything you say helps |
bonnieS |
Aug-13-10 10:53 AM |
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That's how it is on mine. |
Dappleganger |
Aug-13-10 09:46 AM |
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K&R |
Individualist |
Aug-12-10 12:48 PM |
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K&R. |
alsame |
Aug-12-10 12:49 PM |
#6 |
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The Democratic party has a fatal... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-12-10 12:52 PM |
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We can't achieve that till we're freed ourselves as a party from distractions and encumbrances like |
Vincardog |
Aug-12-10 06:03 PM |
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There's no Bbedit tag for snark yet... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-12-10 08:32 PM |
#49 |
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Right on! |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-13-10 10:06 AM |
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Same as it ever was, |
MadHound |
Aug-12-10 12:52 PM |
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I think it's interesting how many folks have volunteered themselves |
bigtree |
Aug-12-10 12:55 PM |
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Really? |
bvar22 |
Aug-12-10 06:35 PM |
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I volunteer myself proudly. |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 06:45 PM |
#43 |
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You're right -- it's not easy and it can't be done all at once |
Dogmudgeon |
Aug-12-10 01:02 PM |
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We were strong activists in 2003 for Dean, 2004 for Kerry, 2008 for Obama |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 01:11 PM |
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No one has more "GOYA" than madfloridian. |
Dappleganger |
Aug-13-10 09:49 AM |
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There is nothing terribly difficult in saying, "We progressives won, |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-12-10 01:10 PM |
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"It's hard work. We're working hard." *smirk* --George Bush n/t |
TransitJohn |
Aug-12-10 01:40 PM |
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Obama needs to get his head out of his ass and remember who voted for him in'08 |
old mark |
Aug-12-10 01:45 PM |
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+1 |
golddigger |
Aug-13-10 09:39 AM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Aug-12-10 01:47 PM |
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I can think and wear pajamas at the same time |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-12-10 02:00 PM |
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They don't acknowledge the anger...thus it doesn't exist? Video |
madfloridian |
Aug-12-10 02:34 PM |
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They remind me of something my roommate in college would do |
Missy Vixen |
Aug-12-10 03:21 PM |
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Gibbs, and by implication his boss, knows damned well the left has nowhere to go |
liberation |
Aug-12-10 09:03 PM |
#52 |
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You may be on to something here |
Doctor_J |
Aug-13-10 07:59 AM |
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So 90% of Dems are satisfied with Obama. |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-12-10 04:52 PM |
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Because those polls are not designed to measure your opinion... |
liberation |
Aug-12-10 09:05 PM |
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Exactly |
dflprincess |
Aug-12-10 09:27 PM |
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That's the problem. But, really, it's not your problem. |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-13-10 10:02 AM |
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Great post! Gibbs' statements (and Rahm's) undermine the Democratic party and |
PufPuf23 |
Aug-12-10 05:09 PM |
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knr |
amborin |
Aug-12-10 05:28 PM |
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The Same thing was said about PROFESSIONAL PROTESTERS 25 years ago. |
slampoet |
Aug-12-10 06:18 PM |
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Hell of a lot easier with a spine. |
CANDO |
Aug-12-10 06:27 PM |
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Thanks Cando....Well said...... |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-12-10 09:29 PM |
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1994 comes to mind |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-12-10 06:29 PM |
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1994 comes to mind |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-12-10 06:29 PM |
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"Spare me the fear card" |
Dappleganger |
Aug-13-10 09:53 AM |
#92 |
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All those comments remind of the old rightwing attacks on the left |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-12-10 07:06 PM |
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And that is why I give money to PROGRESSIVES |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-12-10 10:53 PM |
#63 |
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Yes, that is what people must do. No money to |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-13-10 01:03 AM |
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K&R What the adm. doesn't get |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-12-10 07:08 PM |
#45 |
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Why is there such a problem in understanding the Democratic left is |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-10 07:44 PM |
#47 |
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I was not sure what to make of Pelosi's concerns. With this latest attack on the left, I'm... |
laughingliberal |
Aug-12-10 10:45 PM |
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Pelosi has made quite clear she feels Democratic Congress is under attack |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-10 10:49 PM |
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I think she's right. I see no indication the WH is terribly interested in holding on to the House. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-13-10 12:22 AM |
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Well... |
kenfrequed |
Aug-13-10 02:03 PM |
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The more of this I hear, the less inclined I am to get out of my pajamas. To help these guys? |
laughingliberal |
Aug-12-10 07:59 PM |
#48 |
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We have to continue to move government to the left -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-12-10 10:52 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-13-10 12:18 AM |
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I'm not upset. They weren't talking about me. |
jobycom |
Aug-12-10 10:31 PM |
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Chew on this: "They are afraid of their majority." After Coakley, I do not believe |
metapunditedgy |
Aug-12-10 11:18 PM |
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It's hard work being president! - W. nt |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-13-10 01:26 AM |
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if 90% of the party agrees with the direction we're going |
bkozumplik |
Aug-13-10 01:39 AM |
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Governing is hard? It will be even harder if Democrats lose elections in November. nt |
Chef Eric |
Aug-13-10 04:53 AM |
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And that is what the Professional "Left" is all about, but don't say anything around here, or it |
patrice |
Aug-13-10 11:43 AM |
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Waaaa! It's not fair! Waaaa! nt |
Chef Eric |
Aug-14-10 09:03 AM |
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David Frum : "Republicans fear their base and the Democrats hate their base." |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-13-10 06:01 AM |
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Excellent compilation!! n/t |
orbitalman |
Aug-13-10 07:01 AM |
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Actually governing as compared to bitching constantly from the backseat IS hard and complicated, so |
RBInMaine |
Aug-13-10 07:35 AM |
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So the basement Cheeto-eaters can sink Brennan's nomination, but |
Doctor_J |
Aug-13-10 07:50 AM |
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Way to call anybody whos on the left and uses the internet lazy. n/t |
iamthebandfanman |
Aug-13-10 07:56 AM |
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Why tells us? |
Deep13 |
Aug-13-10 08:13 AM |
#80 |
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If you just read the title of this OP it's perfect |
NJmaverick |
Aug-13-10 08:17 AM |
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Yeah. Okay. I'm going to get the fuck out of pajamas |
golddigger |
Aug-13-10 08:37 AM |
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Follow the money... |
elzenmahn |
Aug-13-10 09:05 AM |
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Governing is Hard! |
Thav |
Aug-13-10 09:11 AM |
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"The internet left fringe needs to get out of their pajamas, realize governing is hard. " |
ProSense |
Aug-13-10 10:29 AM |
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It is really hard. First you have to take all that money from |
obxhead |
Aug-13-10 11:08 AM |
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Video of Gibbs actually laughing about it and us. |
madfloridian |
Aug-13-10 01:28 PM |
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What an ingenious insult |
felix_numinous |
Aug-13-10 01:40 PM |
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I don't even own any pajamas. |
hobbit709 |
Aug-14-10 09:04 AM |
#108 |
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...is not a shit statement...nt |
SidDithers |
Aug-14-10 09:06 AM |
#109 |
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