Reply #127: From 2003 on? I'll give you 2003 and 2004 - even though in terms of what to do going forward, he

[karynnj]

was not that clear.

For later years is not remotely true. For the far left, there were people like Jim McGovern and Kuchinich, who regularly spoke of leaving now (or asap) For the left, Kerry and Finegold led in both 2005 and 2006 with various exit plans - in 2005 they had different ones in 2006, they worked together. For the Democratic centrists, there was the Levin resolution in 2006 and Wes Clark's statemenst in 2007.


In that time frame, Dean backed the Korb plan, which was far less aggressive in terms of leaving - and contained none of Kerry's and Feingold's concern that we needed to immediately say no permanent bases and to speak against occupation. It also did not gain much support from any key Democrats.