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Tue Aug-10-10 06:08 PM
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| 126. Labels used in polls like this sould be based on objective policy positions. |
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many people call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" out of pure habit and team feeling, not because of actual policy positions.
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| -I'm on the left, I don't do illegal drugs and I don't think the President is like George Bush |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:28 PM |
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To the left of what? |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 03:28 PM |
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The Eastern Hemisphere on most maps, I'm guessing. nt |
spoony |
Aug-10-10 03:32 PM |
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LOL! |
asdjrocky |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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No, no...it's not "to" the left, it's "on" the left. |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 04:45 PM |
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I actually said that out loud when I saw the OP. |
jgraz |
Aug-10-10 05:39 PM |
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Truly laughable. |
donco6 |
Aug-10-10 05:46 PM |
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Lenin. |
TheWatcher |
Aug-10-10 06:12 PM |
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wall street. |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-10-10 06:37 PM |
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if you are on the left, you equate Obama with Bush and do drugs. |
provis99 |
Aug-10-10 03:29 PM |
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Nope, that is pure spin. |
tridim |
Aug-10-10 03:30 PM |
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Technically, it is logic. |
LooseWilly |
Aug-10-10 04:50 PM |
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Twisted logic. |
tridim |
Aug-10-10 04:51 PM |
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I think you actually missed "the point" |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 03:31 PM |
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The point that the critics didn't like to be the target of criticism? |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:35 PM |
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That is definitely one way to put it. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 03:39 PM |
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But attacking the base is? |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 03:41 PM |
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I think that believing that Gibbs' comments were directed at "Teh Base" |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 03:44 PM |
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People wouldn't be so upset if this was just the first time |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 03:50 PM |
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I think is proper and appropriate to confront your critics |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 03:57 PM |
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So, let me get this straight. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:08 PM |
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Fair criticism is fine in any arena or forum. Gibbs was speaking out about the bullshit |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:11 PM |
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Attacking Democratic voters in the press is not the best way to win them over. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:20 PM |
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We aren't going to get anywhere on this trajectory. New Question... |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:23 PM |
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It is a politician's job not to react but to respond. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:51 PM |
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Didn't say "react" I said confront. And Gibbs is not a politician. He is a spokesperson. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:53 PM |
#95 |
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85% of liberals approve of Obama; the other 15%, some of which equate him with Bush* |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-10-10 03:44 PM |
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He is most definitely is not attacking his base |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:53 PM |
#28 |
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Right. I've only ever voted for Democrats in national elections. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:02 PM |
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85% of liberals support the President and approve of his actions |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:05 PM |
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Several of you are spamming DU with that number. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:06 PM |
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Spamming you say, like jumping in all over the place in other people's conversations? |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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Wait, are you stalking me, NJ? |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:10 PM |
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Well you are the one accusing people of spamming and stalking |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:11 PM |
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That poll number has been plastered all over DU today. |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:15 PM |
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Spamming like constantly repeating the same number you pulled out of your |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:24 PM |
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Actually, one number says 85% and another says |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-10-10 04:27 PM |
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Latest cross-tabbed Gallup 80% All Democrats, 82% Liberal Democrats |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:27 PM |
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lol, so much for a fact free zone |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:29 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-10-10 04:41 PM |
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1) There are a few different polls. 2) 3% lol. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-10-10 04:43 PM |
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8%. Not exactly a small number. Unless you're as math challenged as you seem to be. n/t |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:44 PM |
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Let's start over: what do you say the approval rating amongst liberals is. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-10-10 04:48 PM |
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And the questions were? Just posting the numbers don't prove squat. |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:41 PM |
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True, Pew has that number at 90% |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:42 PM |
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The other polls posted (with links!) show that Gallup is actually on the low side... |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:42 PM |
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I posted BASED on you link. Do you not read what the hell you link to? n/t |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:45 PM |
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Be nice... |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:45 PM |
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Holy logic fail, Batman...nt |
SidDithers |
Aug-10-10 03:58 PM |
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POSTING IN EPIC THREAD! |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-10-10 03:32 PM |
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If you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't be afraid of a cavity search. |
Touchdown |
Aug-10-10 03:33 PM |
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I do have a problem with Gibbs - for attacking liberal Democrats as far back in 2004 |
derby378 |
Aug-10-10 03:35 PM |
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+100000000 |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 03:36 PM |
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Wow, I never knew about that. Thanks to you and madfloridian. nt |
alsame |
Aug-10-10 03:38 PM |
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So you have a problem with every Democrat that, since they all attack each other |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:39 PM |
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??? |
derby378 |
Aug-10-10 03:47 PM |
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You point is that he was wrong for attacking a fellow dem, yet they all do it |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:48 PM |
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You're oversimplifying |
derby378 |
Aug-10-10 04:54 PM |
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please, he is not the first Dem to play dirty and certainly not the last |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:06 PM |
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Well, that explains a lot. Thanks. nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-10-10 03:46 PM |
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Of course you don't have a problem with Gibbs. |
earth mom |
Aug-10-10 03:36 PM |
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You seem to think being on the left means never supporting anything or anyone |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:38 PM |
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Nope. That's your gross projection. n/t |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 03:42 PM |
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Nope, more like an observation |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:44 PM |
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Apparently some people think being left means you have to crawl up the ass of the |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:25 PM |
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Yep. |
Scurrilous |
Aug-10-10 03:42 PM |
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Of course not |
zipplewrath |
Aug-10-10 03:44 PM |
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"I don't do illegal drugs" |
robdogbucky |
Aug-10-10 03:49 PM |
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I find it tends to keep one's mind clear |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:52 PM |
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Well, it's clearly been a failure, so why not experiment a little? |
TheWatcher |
Aug-10-10 06:15 PM |
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Fine-- don't complain about low voter turnout. |
Marr |
Aug-10-10 03:54 PM |
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Don't complain when the Republicans reap the benefits of those |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 03:59 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
Marr |
Aug-10-10 05:11 PM |
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I am talking about how the Professional left's over the top, unfair and destructive |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:00 PM |
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What, no recs for this? |
progressoid |
Aug-10-10 04:01 PM |
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Forgot to 'unrec' |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 04:03 PM |
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I don't care what the ghost reccers do or don't do |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:06 PM |
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Which is why |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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Yup, make the rec/unrec function a one person one vote |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:09 PM |
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We have the alert function |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 04:12 PM |
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that doesn't help if the freeper or troll simply stays quiet |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:16 PM |
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There's nothing that obligates anyone to comment when they rec or unrec |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 04:43 PM |
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You failed to understand my point |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:06 PM |
#125 |
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You can only rec or unrec once. So your point is still an asinine one. |
Raineyb |
Aug-10-10 06:14 PM |
#129 |
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Your rather inflammatory comments aside, you fail to understand |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:22 PM |
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That's a poor choice for an analogy. |
progressoid |
Aug-10-10 04:23 PM |
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Nope, they do make sure you are registered to vote and that you only vote once |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:28 PM |
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Uh, yeah. |
progressoid |
Aug-10-10 05:14 PM |
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"ghost reccers" |
Ignis |
Aug-10-10 04:32 PM |
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Good luck with that election. nt |
TBF |
Aug-10-10 04:01 PM |
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What election? You are going to vote against the Democrats this fall or not vote |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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If the "professional left" was worried about the election they would NEVER |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:07 PM |
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I don't think he's anything like Bush. |
hobbit709 |
Aug-10-10 04:11 PM |
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Yet he ordered Gitmo closed, is shutting down Iraq and ended rendition |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:13 PM |
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Closed when? How many troops are staying in Iraq? |
hobbit709 |
Aug-10-10 04:17 PM |
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So if troops stay the war isn't over. I guess a lot of people were fooled by the end of WW2 then |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:20 PM |
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I didn't know the Germans are still shooting at us. |
hobbit709 |
Aug-10-10 04:23 PM |
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What is he going to do with GITMO detainees? |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 04:25 PM |
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Well, no. Gitmo is open, our combat troops are being renamed |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 04:49 PM |
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Another "I'm a big boy!" post. |
Romulox |
Aug-10-10 04:15 PM |
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PS: All the drugs I do are LEGAL. |
Romulox |
Aug-10-10 04:16 PM |
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Why would I care one way or the other? |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:19 PM |
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Because it's a direct reference to your very own OP? |
Romulox |
Aug-10-10 04:21 PM |
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Well turns out your are wrong both in assertion and assumption |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:25 PM |
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Now you're boring me. Say something else "controversial", plz! |
Romulox |
Aug-10-10 04:27 PM |
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This thread is an absolute waste |
thewiseguy |
Aug-10-10 04:45 PM |
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Waist! |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-10-10 04:47 PM |
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good one |
bigtree |
Aug-10-10 04:47 PM |
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! |
JonLP24 |
Aug-10-10 04:48 PM |
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To clarify I am with the 90% not the 10% |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 04:49 PM |
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The majority thought the Irag war was a good thing, and that Saddam was behind 9/11. |
Forkboy |
Aug-10-10 04:58 PM |
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The majority also thought Bush did a terrible job |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:38 PM |
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My point depends on much you look to the majority for guidance? |
Forkboy |
Aug-10-10 05:41 PM |
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I don't look to them for guidance, but I find it funny that the 10% is trying to knock the 90 |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:42 PM |
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Well it can't be both. |
Forkboy |
Aug-10-10 05:43 PM |
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Of an 80's South American puppet dictator and Greenland if you're facing the map |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-10-10 04:54 PM |
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the point is here...and you are... |
joeybee12 |
Aug-10-10 04:55 PM |
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"on the left" of what? |
Barack2theFuture |
Aug-10-10 04:55 PM |
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The 90% |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:33 PM |
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High quality flypaper. |
Forkboy |
Aug-10-10 04:57 PM |
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What is this "flypaper" reference? |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:39 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-10-10 05:21 PM |
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Yup, I am part of the 90% |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:32 PM |
#105 |
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The labels are meaningless. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-10-10 05:50 PM |
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Yet you feel the need to deny people their own labels, why is that? |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:59 PM |
#120 |
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Any political poll based on "self-identification" rather than actual policy positions is crap. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-10-10 06:02 PM |
#122 |
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So it seems your problem is that you want to decide how people are labeled |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:05 PM |
#123 |
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Labels used in polls like this sould be based on objective policy positions. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-10-10 06:08 PM |
#126 |
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The flaw in your reasoning is two fold. First there is no official "liberal position" |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 06:12 PM |
#127 |
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How do you rate Gibbs' political skill and effectiveness as spokesman? |
philly_bob |
Aug-10-10 05:42 PM |
#112 |
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Considering the destructive activities of the "professional left" |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:57 PM |
#118 |
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You believe Gibbs "had little choice" but to make comments? |
philly_bob |
Aug-11-10 12:51 AM |
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I'm on the left, I don't do illegal drugs and I don't think the President is like George Bush |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-10-10 05:42 PM |
#113 |
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Even if you have no problem with the comment per se, it's a brain dead thing for the PS to say |
OmahaBlueDog |
Aug-10-10 05:51 PM |
#117 |
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The 10% of liberals who don't approve the the President (according to the latest Pew Poll) |
NJmaverick |
Aug-10-10 05:59 PM |
#119 |
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He had a choice |
OmahaBlueDog |
Aug-10-10 08:40 PM |
#135 |
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what about legal drugs? |
krabigirl |
Aug-10-10 06:16 PM |
#131 |
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I have no problem with Robert Gibbs.. |
HipChick |
Aug-10-10 06:25 PM |
#133 |
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