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Mon Aug-09-10 01:28 PM
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| 86. Exactly. We have to stop the Republicans as the first step. |
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Unless we can do that, the next step won't happen. Politics is a slow process. Expecting fast, dramatic results almost always leads to disappointment.
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| -The sensible centrists have a point, of sorts |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 09:35 AM |
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Stop coming around here making sense or or or you'll be sorry. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-09-10 09:39 AM |
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You're right. Unless there is a real, viable choice |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 09:40 AM |
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You mistake the intent. The exhortation is not to scan the horizon for "something different" |
kenny blankenship |
Aug-09-10 09:42 AM |
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Oh. Well, that's what I agreed with. If there is a group that |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 09:56 AM |
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"I see no alternative" |
Smashcut |
Aug-09-10 12:59 PM |
#81 |
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It's not up to me. It's up to those who want to field candidates |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 02:37 PM |
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Well, there's certainly not one now.. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 11:39 AM |
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Sorta depends on where you are, doesn't it. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 11:50 AM |
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Where is the choice? |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 01:05 PM |
#83 |
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I can't vote for A "capitalists." |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 07:23 PM |
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The Left Has Not Had One Significant Accomplishment In The Past 30 Years |
Yavin4 |
Aug-09-10 09:40 AM |
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Probably because the party left them around that time. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Aug-09-10 09:50 AM |
#6 |
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Did The Civil Rights Movement Need A Political Party? |
Yavin4 |
Aug-09-10 10:04 AM |
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Not true actually |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-09-10 10:17 AM |
#24 |
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And one of the main reasons Dr. King was labeled a |
Fire1 |
Aug-09-10 10:22 AM |
#29 |
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Communist organizers who worked on issues were helpful. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 04:38 PM |
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Well, duh |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 10:00 AM |
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Better start organizing, then. You want people on the streets? |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 10:11 AM |
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Go out in the Quad? There is no WIFI there! |
FSogol |
Aug-09-10 10:21 AM |
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LOL! We hadn't quite heard of WIFI in 1970. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 10:30 AM |
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There was no such thing as a boom box in 1970. nt |
asdjrocky |
Aug-09-10 11:43 AM |
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OK. A portable radio, then. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 11:48 AM |
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Yeah, and if 4 people gathered around it they might be able to hear a Mets Game. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-09-10 11:57 AM |
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The details are that 4000 people showed up and raised their voices. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 11:59 AM |
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That's pretty impressive. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-09-10 12:02 PM |
#57 |
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Only in the school's paper. There were lots of protests. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 12:34 PM |
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Got it. |
asdjrocky |
Aug-09-10 12:37 PM |
#72 |
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I suspect that a bunch of them just took the opportunity to |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 12:46 PM |
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That's it in a nutshell. All the pissin and moanin is just |
Fire1 |
Aug-09-10 10:33 AM |
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Yup exactly. It is very easy to type "Wez needs a revolution1!!1" Very hard to |
FSogol |
Aug-09-10 11:09 AM |
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Well, one must leave the Party Headquarters if one if to do something. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-10-10 12:49 PM |
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Eh? |
BeFree |
Aug-09-10 10:02 AM |
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In the Past 30 Years, The U.S. Has Had Four Major Wars in the M.E. |
Yavin4 |
Aug-09-10 10:06 AM |
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There ya go |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 10:11 AM |
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Best I can do? WTF? |
BeFree |
Aug-09-10 10:12 AM |
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The left hasn't been in power. |
Forkboy |
Aug-09-10 10:13 AM |
#22 |
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Exactly, "The left" is neither powerful or popular enough |
WonderGrunion |
Aug-09-10 02:29 PM |
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I'm sorry you find the Left so pointless. |
Forkboy |
Aug-10-10 10:37 AM |
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Shining Knights on White Horses |
iowasocialist |
Aug-09-10 05:14 PM |
#121 |
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Welcome to DU from one newcomer......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:29 PM |
#134 |
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Well, with all the chances we've had in power. |
Forkboy |
Aug-09-10 10:11 AM |
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They killed us off |
zipplewrath |
Aug-09-10 10:17 AM |
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That IS the reality |
BeFree |
Aug-09-10 10:24 AM |
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Recworthy reply. |
Greyhound |
Aug-10-10 01:03 PM |
#157 |
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The GLBT community would not agree with you that we |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-09-10 10:45 AM |
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Who has been as successful as the GLBT community |
EFerrari |
Aug-09-10 11:01 AM |
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We do get it done, but no one notices that |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-09-10 12:05 PM |
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Depends what you mean by significant. |
EFerrari |
Aug-09-10 10:59 AM |
#40 |
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More spam. |
spoony |
Aug-09-10 03:13 PM |
#106 |
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K&R |
SammyWinstonJack |
Aug-09-10 09:44 AM |
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Foment all the revolution you want... |
SidDithers |
Aug-09-10 10:00 AM |
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K & R! |
rusty fender |
Aug-09-10 10:01 AM |
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Hey I have NO problem with people having |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 10:04 AM |
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+1 Anything that was considered "left" years ago is now considered |
walldude |
Aug-09-10 10:09 AM |
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In regards to the OP, the Left has had................... |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 10:11 AM |
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They're trying to get us off this website too - |
TBF |
Aug-09-10 04:21 PM |
#108 |
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Perhaps the leftists/socialists are not a |
sufrommich |
Aug-09-10 10:10 AM |
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That's an interesting word, "demographics". |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-09-10 11:46 AM |
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Most people... |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:05 PM |
#58 |
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The last poll I saw showed only 52% of the population |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:02 PM |
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Yes, this. n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-10-10 12:52 PM |
#154 |
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Either you produce a whole LOT of viable candidates or all you're doing is whining. |
DevonRex |
Aug-09-10 10:15 AM |
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Hell, I'll vote for them. If a blind pig can produce a good, |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 10:34 AM |
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Same here. :) |
DevonRex |
Aug-09-10 10:55 AM |
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Would the Democratic Party run a candidate with an anti-capitalists |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 11:27 AM |
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Truth be told, I'm not overly fond of it. OTOH, I'm not sure how to go |
DevonRex |
Aug-09-10 11:59 AM |
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That's why I referred to history. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:11 PM |
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Yes, it is. |
DevonRex |
Aug-09-10 12:13 PM |
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If you want nothing less than Democratic party to adopt the platform of the Communist party... |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-09-10 12:21 PM |
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I'm not the one who is waiting n/t |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:27 PM |
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Sounds like you're exhorting a dog to become a cat. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-09-10 12:36 PM |
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Nope. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:58 PM |
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Democrats are not Communists |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-10 12:29 PM |
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The problem with your most interesting and unique perspective... |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-09-10 12:52 PM |
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No, that's what you HOPE will happen... |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-09-10 04:50 PM |
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No they are not. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:52 PM |
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a government of, by, and for the people... |
maryf |
Aug-09-10 02:42 PM |
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Re; "Democrats are not Communists" |
iowasocialist |
Aug-09-10 05:27 PM |
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I'm not so sure that overwhelming is the correct word...... |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:08 PM |
#131 |
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So are you trying to say that left of center democrats are all socialists? |
Go2Peace |
Aug-09-10 10:39 PM |
#136 |
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I learned in my recent thread of "left demands" |
TBF |
Aug-09-10 04:26 PM |
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Discussion is not whining. That's how people generate ideas. |
EFerrari |
Aug-09-10 11:03 AM |
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Your last sentence says it all. n/t |
Fire1 |
Aug-09-10 10:20 AM |
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k & r |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-09-10 10:20 AM |
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"marmots of moderation" |
jgraz |
Aug-09-10 10:35 AM |
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The pig is poet! |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-09-10 10:42 AM |
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The whistle pigs of patient waiting. |
kenny blankenship |
Aug-09-10 10:50 AM |
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+01 |
Greyhound |
Aug-09-10 12:06 PM |
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Hmm...we're adopting the avatar. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 12:48 PM |
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OH NOES!!! Your latest transparent attempt to defuse criticism has caught us totally unawares!! |
jgraz |
Aug-09-10 01:13 PM |
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Hey, as my father said once: |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 01:26 PM |
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I have nothing against criticism, as long as it comes with |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 01:46 PM |
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It's the "you can't fire me, I quit, and also I'm proud of my bad breath" defense. nt |
spoony |
Aug-09-10 03:16 PM |
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Uh, that makes no sense at all. English is an excellent language, |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 07:11 PM |
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It seems hard to have a clear, |
LWolf |
Aug-09-10 10:55 AM |
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How about doing the organizing, instead of waiting for others |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 11:58 AM |
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In that model, each individual is not organizing their own group. |
LWolf |
Aug-09-10 12:01 PM |
#56 |
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Everyone makes his or her choice. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 12:49 PM |
#75 |
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Since you seem unaware of the irony of your own statements... |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-09-10 03:10 PM |
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1944. That was before I was born. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 07:13 PM |
#126 |
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President Obama gave you the answer to "Where do we start?" |
WonderGrunion |
Aug-09-10 02:51 PM |
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Thank you for that. So many weren't listening, it seems. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 07:14 PM |
#127 |
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We start by refusing to vote for neoliberals. |
LWolf |
Aug-10-10 12:13 PM |
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That's not an answer at all, that's a speech. |
Greyhound |
Aug-10-10 12:46 PM |
#151 |
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Well, it seems to me that shutting up or carrying water |
EFerrari |
Aug-09-10 11:07 AM |
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I dunno... |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 12:30 PM |
#149 |
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Yep. You were right! |
EFerrari |
Aug-10-10 12:41 PM |
#150 |
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My guts are grumbling... |
Barack2theFuture |
Aug-09-10 11:44 AM |
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"the continued trend to the right" sums it up k and r |
amborin |
Aug-09-10 12:06 PM |
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Exclusivity is a tool of extremism. |
felix_numinous |
Aug-09-10 12:07 PM |
#62 |
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Neither extreme nor moderate. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 12:20 PM |
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OK I read your post again |
felix_numinous |
Aug-09-10 12:58 PM |
#80 |
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"It bars no act, however heinous, in the pursuit of profits" |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:42 PM |
#135 |
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sensible centrists = oxymoron ...incoming ...dive dive dive |
L0oniX |
Aug-09-10 12:28 PM |
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Seems to me that the right keeps gaining traction |
chowder66 |
Aug-09-10 12:58 PM |
#78 |
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Exactly. We have to stop the Republicans as the first step. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 01:28 PM |
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I'm in full agreement |
chowder66 |
Aug-09-10 01:43 PM |
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Stopping Republicans by BECOMING Republicans... |
bvar22 |
Aug-09-10 08:40 PM |
#129 |
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I get it now. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-09-10 01:02 PM |
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I think you have it. |
MineralMan |
Aug-09-10 01:30 PM |
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Did ya know..... |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 01:31 PM |
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Not /those/ guys? |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-09-10 01:37 PM |
#89 |
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Yes, forming coalitions with like minded Democrats is part of their transitional phase... |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-09-10 01:40 PM |
#91 |
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You missed, McCarthy... |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-09-10 02:02 PM |
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Yes, and that's why nothing Obama does will ever be good enough. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 05:01 PM |
#119 |
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I'm NOT "Anti-Capitalist". |
bvar22 |
Aug-09-10 01:39 PM |
#90 |
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Then you are spinning your wheels. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 01:47 PM |
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It's the urge for personal power and personal wealth... |
Silent3 |
Aug-09-10 02:12 PM |
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The system endores and rewards such behavior. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 02:22 PM |
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Time and technology progress... |
Silent3 |
Aug-09-10 04:24 PM |
#109 |
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Then I'm not sure WHAT you are arguing for. |
bvar22 |
Aug-09-10 05:02 PM |
#120 |
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But, but, but.... |
Silent3 |
Aug-09-10 05:14 PM |
#122 |
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No, that's not Capitalism, that's trade... |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 07:08 AM |
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If I can butt in here, you make a good point but offer no solutions. |
Greyhound |
Aug-10-10 01:00 PM |
#155 |
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Why should global cooperation be the preserve of Capital? |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 01:09 PM |
#158 |
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I don't disagree, how can it be done? n/t |
Greyhound |
Aug-10-10 01:49 PM |
#159 |
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So who's going to "balance and regulate" capitalism? |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:19 PM |
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K&R!! |
maryf |
Aug-09-10 01:54 PM |
#95 |
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K&R |
inna |
Aug-09-10 02:09 PM |
#97 |
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k & r for truth. |
mikita |
Aug-09-10 02:45 PM |
#103 |
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Recommended. nt |
TBF |
Aug-09-10 04:29 PM |
#111 |
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Actually, most liberals and progressives are happy with Obama. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 04:33 PM |
#112 |
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Did I say 'liberals or progressives'? |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 04:48 PM |
#115 |
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Yes, you did. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 04:56 PM |
#117 |
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Well yeah... |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 07:44 AM |
#139 |
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"Capitalism"... |
sendero |
Aug-09-10 04:35 PM |
#113 |
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Capitalism allows all those things. |
blindpig |
Aug-09-10 04:59 PM |
#118 |
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I categorically.. |
sendero |
Aug-09-10 05:17 PM |
#123 |
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If you reject this assertion, then why have we |
socialist_n_TN |
Aug-09-10 09:23 PM |
#133 |
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Failing to regulate *anything* leads to abuses. |
Orsino |
Aug-10-10 07:27 AM |
#138 |
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To whose benefit? |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 07:56 AM |
#140 |
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One might as well say, then... |
Orsino |
Aug-10-10 08:02 AM |
#141 |
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Morning kick. nt |
TBF |
Aug-10-10 08:02 AM |
#142 |
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Thanks for this again... |
maryf |
Aug-10-10 10:30 AM |
#143 |
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if all manage to divide equally between left and right |
bigtree |
Aug-10-10 10:39 AM |
#145 |
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How did you get Robert Gibbs to support your thread, Mr. Pig? |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-10-10 10:41 AM |
#146 |
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Wasn't that a boot in the ass? |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 11:17 AM |
#147 |
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I think the problem for you is that the country is avowedly capitalist |
BzaDem |
Aug-10-10 12:48 PM |
#152 |
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Is it that obvious? |
blindpig |
Aug-10-10 01:00 PM |
#156 |
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