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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 01:04 PM
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9. Well then, do what you gotta do andso will the rest of us.
Actually I thought the four replies were rather good.

Made some points you'd rather ignore.
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  -My "what if" for the day... MineralMan  Aug-08-10 12:29 PM   #0 
  - What if the wishes of some on the left came true? What if many our elected Democrat leaders,  metapunditedgy   Aug-08-10 12:43 PM   #1 
  - +1  Edweird   Aug-08-10 01:19 PM   #23 
  - + 1 million! Do what you are voted and sent there to do and there are no problems  flyarm   Aug-08-10 01:52 PM   #43 
  - Some seem to be perfectly content with the rightward drift  Blue_In_AK   Aug-08-10 01:56 PM   #48 
  - only a very small minority want you to believe that! DON"T .its a lie.eom  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:00 PM   #50 
  - the rightward strategy isn't going to work in this election cycle.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:09 PM   #94 
     - I agree 100%  Blue_In_AK   Aug-08-10 03:41 PM   #156 
  - Man, that would be nice!  Ignis   Aug-08-10 06:34 PM   #173 
  - I wish I could rec your response!  dflprincess   Aug-08-10 08:01 PM   #177 
  - Good one.  emilyg   Aug-08-10 08:21 PM   #180 
  - Uatu approves this post.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-08-10 11:47 PM   #202 
  - what if the democrats hold on to their majorities  griffi94   Aug-08-10 12:44 PM   #2 
  - What if it all got worse? Much worse? Can you imagine?  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:03 PM   #6 
     - no i can't it imagine it being worse  griffi94   Aug-08-10 01:11 PM   #15 
     - I'm on the cusp of much worse right now, and use  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-10 01:24 PM   #25 
     - It already is worse..much worse..or aren't you paying attention and just blowing smoke?  flyarm   Aug-08-10 01:54 PM   #45 
  - if wishes were fast trains, we would all take a ride.  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-08-10 12:51 PM   #3 
  - What if people die becaue they can't afford medical care?  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 12:54 PM   #4 
  - What if things got worse? How would that be?  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:04 PM   #8 
     - Let me ask you something-  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 01:07 PM   #12 
        - The "left" that has nothing but criticism and no support for  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:11 PM   #16 
           - It would help a lot if you'd supply us with a glossary of terms.so we could keep up with your  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 01:15 PM   #19 
           - would that be the same left  griffi94   Aug-08-10 01:19 PM   #22 
           - MM doesn't understand that you can't browbeat people into loving their leaders  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 01:37 PM   #32 
              - Hear, hear!  Individualist   Aug-08-10 01:46 PM   #37 
              - +1  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 02:05 PM   #56 
              - Form a peaceful democracy or be killed! 8)  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 02:38 PM   #73 
              - the beatings will continue until morale improves.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:39 PM   #74 
              - "The beatings will continue until morale improves!"  bullwinkle428   Aug-09-10 08:25 AM   #207 
           - You are on the verge of major delusion! Or you are already there!  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:02 PM   #51 
           - I thought that was the right that 'has nothing but criticism  sabrina 1   Aug-08-10 02:03 PM   #52 
           - Democrats are supposed to be THE LEFT! Just what are Dems  Subdivisions   Aug-08-10 02:35 PM   #72 
  - Ah, four replies, but no answers. Maybe someone will actually  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 12:58 PM   #5 
  - Well then, do what you gotta do andso will the rest of us.  Desertrose   Aug-08-10 01:04 PM   #9 
  - Oh, no worries. I'm going to work as hard as I can to get  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:07 PM   #13 
     - There have to be some better dem choices....  Desertrose   Aug-08-10 01:17 PM   #21 
        - i think that part of the problem the OP is having is that *the message* actually is getting out.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:12 PM   #62 
           - Exactly. And how, exactly it the message that rightward  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 02:24 PM   #65 
           - Yeah... I think you make some very good points.  Desertrose   Aug-08-10 02:42 PM   #77 
  - i'm not sure what you meant  griffi94   Aug-08-10 01:06 PM   #11 
  - Most intelligent people keep decorm and refuse to answer dumb assed Questions  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:09 PM   #61 
  - I really think you did post this in the wrong place.  sabrina 1   Aug-08-10 02:28 PM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 08:21 PM   #181 
     - I had pasta and jarred sauce for dinner tonight  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 08:46 PM   #183 
        - ...  Touchdown   Aug-08-10 09:01 PM   #191 
        - There were...  Touchdown   Aug-08-10 10:15 PM   #197 
           - wtf???  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 10:17 PM   #198 
  - Mineral Man bashing Democrats and sowing division again.  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 01:03 PM   #7 
  - Nope. I'm out campaigning for Democrats.  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:05 PM   #10 
  - "What if the wishes of some on the left came true?"  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 01:09 PM   #14 
  - So, you're saying that "some on the left" are not doing what I  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:12 PM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 01:12 PM   #18 
     - +1,000,000  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 01:16 PM   #20 
        - yes, he does.  inna   Aug-08-10 08:50 PM   #187 
  - It's a legitimate question.  janx   Aug-08-10 01:30 PM   #26 
     - Is it a legitimate question? Do you see "the left" at DU urging people not to vote?  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 01:35 PM   #30 
        - I'm sorry to say that there are many here encouraging a vote against Democrats  flamingdem   Aug-08-10 02:08 PM   #60 
        - Bullying for votes -- not a good strategy.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:15 PM   #63 
        - Expressions of personal frustration is not what is being discussed here.  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 02:53 PM   #84 
        - he's suggesting there's a "Leftwing Conspiracy" to undermine the democratic party -- rich!  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:03 PM   #89 
        - I think the only campaign on DU is make Democrats behave like Democrats  neverforget   Aug-08-10 03:43 PM   #159 
           - +1  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 08:48 PM   #186 
           - +10,000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-09-10 02:37 AM   #204 
        - No one her on "The Left" has encouraged a vote against "democratic interests"  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 08:47 PM   #185 
        - There was nothing in the post that claimed  janx   Aug-08-10 10:44 PM   #199 
  - and didn't i just say that i'm batman  griffi94   Aug-08-10 01:21 PM   #24 
  - disenfranchising the democratic base of the Dem Party is/a weird way to "campaign" for Dems.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 01:31 PM   #28 
  - The Democratic base is that group of voters who would never miss  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:36 PM   #31 
  - LOL. You make crap up wholesale and attribute it to the other poster.  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 01:40 PM   #33 
  - Then why worry about "The Left"? Why bother tryng to convince people that we're a threat?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 01:46 PM   #38 
  - people of good faith must be able to advance their political positions without being bullied  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 01:48 PM   #41 
  - Yep.  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 01:56 PM   #47 
  - are you speaking for yourself? because you have alot of nerve thinking you can speak for others!  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:24 PM   #66 
  - "The Democratic base...would never vote for anyone other than a Democrat"  dflprincess   Aug-08-10 08:14 PM   #179 
  - The Noam Chomsky Chowder & Marching Society isn't the base  SoxFan   Aug-08-10 09:12 PM   #192 
  - be sure not to knock on my door..with democrats like you ..who needs republicans?  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:18 PM   #64 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 02:06 PM   #58 
  - The Democrats are convincing the voters that there's little difference between the parties.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 01:31 PM   #27 
  - I see lots of difference between the two parties.  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 01:34 PM   #29 
  - +100  flamingdem   Aug-08-10 01:43 PM   #35 
  - And that's fine. But turning different constituencies against each other  EFerrari   Aug-08-10 01:47 PM   #39 
  - But, see, most people don't feel that it's gotten any better.  girl gone mad   Aug-08-10 11:29 PM   #200 
  - "The left" has not been able to point out one single legislator that votes like a Republican.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 02:31 PM   #71 
     - LZ posts on DU and no one responds! major trend identified!  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:41 PM   #76 
     - I invite anybody to do a search and find out how many responses my threads usually get.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 02:50 PM   #81 
     - so, not a good day for LZ. and, that proves some sort of point about...?  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:00 PM   #88 
        - ...the fact that no one has the hard data to publicly embarass me by showing me up with regard to  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:05 PM   #91 
        - P.S. If you want to give it a try right now, go ahead. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:08 PM   #93 
           - Ben Nelson.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:10 PM   #95 
           - Asked and answered in the original thread. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:13 PM   #102 
           - Max Baucus.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:11 PM   #96 
           - ...votes 92.2% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:15 PM   #111 
           - Max Baucus is a member of a caucus to oppose Obama's policies -- just so you know.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:27 PM   #129 
              - Did I say he wasn't? n/  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:30 PM   #140 
           - I suspect you'll be hearing crickets. n/t  Raineyb   Aug-08-10 03:40 PM   #155 
           - Blanche Lincoln.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:11 PM   #97 
           - ...votes 83.9% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:17 PM   #114 
              - Blanche Lincoln is the member of the Conservadem Caucus that opposes Obama policies.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:28 PM   #133 
                 - Did I say she wasn't?  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:33 PM   #146 
           - Evan Bayh.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:12 PM   #98 
           - ...votes 71.6% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:18 PM   #115 
              - when you lie with the dogs...even 31.4% of the time... you're gonna get fleas.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:23 PM   #123 
              - Yet I'm still right and now it's understood why two-party equivalence is a breach of DU rules.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:27 PM   #130 
                 - So, you're accusing me breeching DU rules -- please point out my infraction, Mr. Hall Monitor.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:29 PM   #135 
                 - Did I? n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:31 PM   #141 
                 - Do you understand what "broadly" means? If you don't, Skinner covered it.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-10 04:27 PM   #167 
                    - Yeah? n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 04:36 PM   #168 
              - Evan Bayh has literally organized a caucus to oppose Obama's policies -- and YOU support that.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:26 PM   #128 
                 - I do? n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:31 PM   #143 
                 - Not even the other members of this caucus seem to support the caucus.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:37 PM   #153 
           - Michael Bennet.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:12 PM   #99 
           - ...votes 91.7% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:19 PM   #117 
              - Member of the Conservadem caucus that opposes Obama's policies.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:29 PM   #138 
           - Jean Shaheen.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:12 PM   #100 
           - ...votes 94.6% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:20 PM   #119 
              - yet another member of the Conservadem Caucus that opposes Obama policies.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:30 PM   #139 
                 - It doesn't look like they are doing a good job. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:34 PM   #150 
           - Mark Begich.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:13 PM   #101 
           - ...votes 93.1% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:21 PM   #120 
              - yet another member of the Conservadem Caucus that opposes Obama policies.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:31 PM   #142 
           - Tom Carper.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:13 PM   #103 
           - ...votes 93.7% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:22 PM   #121 
              - yawn.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:31 PM   #144 
           - Herb Kohl.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:13 PM   #104 
           - ...votes 94.8% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:22 PM   #122 
           - Mary Landrieu.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:14 PM   #105 
           - ...votes 92.0% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:23 PM   #124 
           - Mark Udall.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:14 PM   #106 
           - ...votes 93.0% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:24 PM   #125 
           - Mark Udall?  janx   Aug-08-10 06:49 PM   #175 
           - Mark Warner.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:14 PM   #107 
           - ...votes 92.2% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:25 PM   #126 
           - The majority of the Democrats voted with the Republicans to fund Obama's war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 03:15 PM   #108 
           - ...is an attempt to move the goalposts and change the subject.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:25 PM   #127 
           - Just responding to your question.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 03:29 PM   #136 
              - The point is that it cannot be said that there isn't some advantage to voting Democratic. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:34 PM   #148 
              - Fine. It's up to the politicians to convince us of that.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 03:36 PM   #152 
              - Sure it is, when you don't inform yourself by looking up the facts. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:38 PM   #154 
              - The "fact" you're avoiding is that the majority of Democrats voted to continue to fund a lost war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-08-10 03:41 PM   #157 
                 - That's because you are changing the subject, and I have no respect for that. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:42 PM   #158 
              - This page you keep linking to is crap  Sebastian Doyle   Aug-08-10 04:24 PM   #166 
                 - My point stands that there is still an advantage to voting Democratic. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 04:37 PM   #169 
              - Exactly. Saying that Democrat X voted Y percentage of the time with Democrats  Raineyb   Aug-08-10 03:45 PM   #160 
                 - The assertion is that there's little or no difference, and that's false.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:47 PM   #161 
                    - And the times when they vote like Republicans are the BIG issues. So it matters when they do and  Raineyb   Aug-08-10 04:09 PM   #164 
                       - How will voting third-party get you what you want with those BIG issues.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 04:40 PM   #170 
           - In other words, that is the Democratic position  SoxFan   Aug-08-10 09:15 PM   #193 
           - Kay Hagan.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:15 PM   #109 
           - ...votes 91.7% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:28 PM   #132 
           - Claire McCaskill.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:15 PM   #110 
           - ...votes 80.7% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:28 PM   #134 
           - Bill Nelson.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:16 PM   #112 
           - ...votes 92.8% of the time with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:29 PM   #137 
           - BART STUPAK.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:18 PM   #116 
              - ...votes 96.0% with the Democrats.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:32 PM   #145 
     - ++++++++++++++++++ 1 million! eom  flyarm   Aug-08-10 03:17 PM   #113 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 08:43 PM   #182 
     - rofl  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 08:50 PM   #188 
     - LoZoccolo, I salute you for remaining rational throughout this subthread.  Hekate   Aug-09-10 12:24 AM   #203 
        - LoZoccolo, I salute you for remaining rational throughout this subthread.  Sebastian Doyle   Aug-09-10 01:16 PM   #209 
           - Was I talkin' to you?  Hekate   Aug-09-10 05:57 PM   #210 
  - What if you stopped posting these bullshit what ifs that pretend to  Raineyb   Aug-08-10 01:41 PM   #34 
  - +1  Individualist   Aug-08-10 01:48 PM   #40 
  - +1!!!  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:28 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 08:47 PM   #184 
  - Unconstructive straw manning  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 01:46 PM   #36 
  - Another excellent post from you DirkGently. Thank you.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-10 01:51 PM   #42 
  - they're welcome to their opinion, but they don't get their own set of facts. as voters  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 01:56 PM   #46 
  - And it's not like it's going to "work"  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 02:04 PM   #54 
  - Indeed. nt  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 01:58 PM   #49 
  - Excellently stated!!! Thank you!  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:30 PM   #70 
  - you guys are doing a really good job of paraphrasing the same talking point over and over:  yurbud   Aug-08-10 01:54 PM   #44 
  - Yes. The familiar false dichotomy that screws up EVERYTHING  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 02:07 PM   #59 
  - If those wishes came true we'd be worse off than with dubya.  jaxx   Aug-08-10 02:03 PM   #53 
  - I shudder to think, the REAL REPUKE AGENDA is worse than we know nt  flamingdem   Aug-08-10 02:05 PM   #55 
  - Authoritarian bloviation. Unrec.  Individualist   Aug-08-10 02:06 PM   #57 
  - I've already seen a similar thing in 2000, and they will take no responsbility for their actions.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 02:29 PM   #69 
  - excuse me ..in 2000 Gore won..My state was stolen by the Supremes!  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:41 PM   #75 
  - stolen by SCOTUS as well as by the corrupt GOP machine. but, election fraud is a CT.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:45 PM   #79 
     - If the Dem team had demanded the entire state be counted..the GOP would not have gotten away with  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:51 PM   #82 
        - bringing a spork to a knife fight. keeping that powder dry.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:56 PM   #86 
  - Dissent = disloyalty = Republican victory?  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 02:54 PM   #85 
     - the patient still dies.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 02:58 PM   #87 
     - Yes, that is exactly what I said. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:07 PM   #92 
        - Isn't arguing a rightwing philosophy in support of Democrats  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 03:34 PM   #147 
           - I was being sarcastic.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-10 03:50 PM   #162 
              - The argument defies irony. You've created a fallacious measure.  DirkGently   Aug-08-10 06:09 PM   #171 
  - "Spealer" Boehner vows to repleal HCR; Issa will be in subpoena heaven ...  Born_A_Truman   Aug-08-10 02:44 PM   #78 
  - Thank you!  MineralMan   Aug-09-10 08:22 AM   #206 
  - What if DEM party purists embraced big tent over purity flame bait  havocmom   Aug-08-10 02:46 PM   #80 
  - + 1 million! exactly! History proves that out! eom  flyarm   Aug-08-10 02:53 PM   #83 
  - spot on.  nashville_brook   Aug-08-10 03:05 PM   #90 
  - Most Americans support traditionally liberal" policy positions  Odin2005   Aug-08-10 03:35 PM   #151 
  - Politicians have to EARN my vote.  Odin2005   Aug-08-10 03:20 PM   #118 
  - "Politicians have to EARN my vote" Oh my, what a novel idea!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-08-10 03:27 PM   #131 
     - Indeed.  Raineyb   Aug-08-10 04:11 PM   #165 
  - What if the CSA had managed to strike a truce with the Union in 1863?  madinmaryland   Aug-08-10 03:34 PM   #149 
  - You are 65 years old?  spiritual_gunfighter   Aug-08-10 03:59 PM   #163 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 06:12 PM   #172 
  - Any links or support for your claim?  Ignis   Aug-08-10 06:38 PM   #174 
  - Well, that got a lot of messages. I'm sorry I wasn't able to  MineralMan   Aug-08-10 07:42 PM   #176 
  - rofl  LostinVA   Aug-08-10 08:51 PM   #189 
  - What was so funny about that?  MineralMan   Aug-09-10 09:03 AM   #208 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 08:59 PM   #190 
  - I understand.  asdjrocky   Aug-08-10 09:50 PM   #195 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-08-10 08:07 PM   #178 
  - "what if" I unrec this pile of crap  jgraz   Aug-08-10 09:17 PM   #194 
  - ...  Touchdown   Aug-08-10 10:05 PM   #196 
  - of all the straw men you have posted  paulk   Aug-08-10 11:33 PM   #201 
  - unrec for arrogance laced with stupidity n/t  quinnox   Aug-09-10 03:11 AM   #205 
  - I don't know, but at this rate, we'll get to *live* what happens when  Barack2theFuture   Aug-09-10 06:03 PM   #211 
 

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