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Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 03:03 AM by Q3JR4
No matter how pretty these privately owned buildings make themselves on the inside, no matter how much paint they put over themselves to add a veneer of welcome-ness to the undercurrent of corporate ownership, no matter how much they try to project otherwise, these places are not for the public. We don't have the right to say what we want, or picket the bad decisions of our corporate overlords. More importantly we do not have the right to tell them whom they can and cannot allow onto this land that is not owned by the public.
If you think otherwise, you're deluded. That delusion, however, is not your fault. The companies that rent space on the privately owned mall land pay a lot of money to keep you there.
Q3JR4.
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| -Mall implements 'youth escort policy' |
onehandle |
Aug-07-10 05:36 PM |
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If I were a parent I'd be boycotting that mall. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 05:41 PM |
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Why? No more free babysitter for parents with rowdy children? |
Darth_Kitten |
Aug-07-10 05:48 PM |
#2 |
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I never sent children to a mall for babysitting. And my parents never sent me. |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 06:33 PM |
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In my mid and late teens, the mall was a |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-07-10 09:04 PM |
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It's not a law. |
surrealAmerican |
Aug-08-10 08:39 AM |
#105 |
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Only they aren't shopping |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-07-10 11:15 PM |
#68 |
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Who's the "they"? Are you referring to the more mature "mall walkers"? |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:26 AM |
#82 |
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I'd ask but I stopped going to the malls |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-08-10 01:49 AM |
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How do you know they weren't shopping? Were you following them around? |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:54 AM |
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It was hard to miss their running and knocking folks over |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-08-10 02:06 AM |
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How do you know they didn't buy something at a food place? Or buy something |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 02:13 AM |
#98 |
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Alex and his droogs out causing a bit of a ruckus, yeeesss? |
RadiationTherapy |
Aug-08-10 11:21 AM |
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and all of my hard work ruined n/t |
edgineered |
Aug-08-10 11:28 PM |
#171 |
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Do they also keep getting on your lawn? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-08-10 08:47 AM |
#106 |
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True - many on on their break from working there /nt |
jberryhill |
Aug-08-10 10:44 AM |
#124 |
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Yes, 17-yr-olds need babysitters. *eyeroll* |
WinkyDink |
Aug-08-10 11:06 AM |
#130 |
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You don't get the point.....((((eyeroll))))) |
Darth_Kitten |
Aug-08-10 03:21 PM |
#148 |
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Why? If your child want's to go shopping, you o with them. |
napi21 |
Aug-07-10 05:49 PM |
#4 |
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No, it's really not that simple. You don't just suddenly send your 18 year old |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 06:34 PM |
#18 |
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That's true and they are perfectly capable of shopping before 4 PM |
napi21 |
Aug-07-10 07:25 PM |
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No, they're not. School doesn't let out until 3:30 -- and that's only for the kids |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:52 PM |
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Send the special snowflake to the mall Saturday _morning_. n/t |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-10 10:38 PM |
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No, I think the special snowflakes who can't stand to be around teens |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:57 PM |
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It Appears.... |
Fastcars |
Aug-08-10 07:16 PM |
#167 |
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exactly, no sense in creating a customer base |
edgineered |
Aug-08-10 11:48 PM |
#173 |
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Start your own mall if that's how you feel. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-08-10 10:41 PM |
#170 |
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What does the 3-11 shift parent do? |
Occulus |
Aug-09-10 01:59 AM |
#177 |
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Not the mall's problem. |
X_Digger |
Aug-09-10 04:53 PM |
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All the malls I've been in have outside entry's, so you don't need to go "in" the mall at all. |
Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel |
Aug-08-10 12:48 AM |
#79 |
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So all the people who are afraid of bumping into teens can use those doors? |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:21 AM |
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It's not just the malls, it is literally a war on kids. In one town I know, they are |
1monster |
Aug-08-10 12:19 AM |
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That is just nuts. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:39 AM |
#86 |
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But you'll miss the sales at Gap, Aeropostale, Hot Topic, A&F.... |
jberryhill |
Aug-08-10 10:41 AM |
#123 |
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if you were a parent |
davidinalameda |
Aug-07-10 06:00 PM |
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Because clearly everyone under voting age is an "animal." (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-07-10 06:03 PM |
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Aug-07-10 07:49 PM |
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Technically, people under the voting age are animals. |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-07-10 09:06 PM |
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True. It shouldn't be an insult, but it is. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:33 PM |
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Oh yeah. My "little animal" who's in grad school in engineering now? |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 06:39 PM |
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Aug-07-10 07:48 PM |
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Aug-07-10 08:03 PM |
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All little animals are not like yours - get it? |
Butch350 |
Aug-07-10 09:40 PM |
#53 |
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No. The person specifically referred to my children as "little animals." Get it? n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:32 PM |
#58 |
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And there are others whose 'little animals' do not know how to conduct |
Obamanaut |
Aug-08-10 09:31 AM |
#113 |
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If you were a shop owner you'd be applauding it. n/t |
bitchkitty |
Aug-07-10 08:57 PM |
#48 |
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Not the shop owners and food place owners that cater to teens. |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:35 PM |
#60 |
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Two business in one mall lost so much of their business after teens were banned from |
1monster |
Aug-08-10 12:26 AM |
#78 |
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It would have made much more sense for them to hire more security. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:27 AM |
#83 |
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To be babysitters? |
Abq_Sarah |
Aug-08-10 03:35 PM |
#152 |
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No |
JonLP24 |
Aug-09-10 04:59 PM |
#184 |
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Sounds like a good way to eliminate your customer base. |
baldguy |
Aug-07-10 05:49 PM |
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Those "customers" aren't buying anything. |
seattleblue |
Aug-07-10 06:02 PM |
#7 |
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You can look at the amount of advertising directed at teens. |
Downwinder |
Aug-07-10 06:15 PM |
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It's true, the numbers back that up |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-07-10 06:32 PM |
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They're not there to work. They're not there to shop. |
Capitalocracy |
Aug-07-10 06:29 PM |
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Who says? My teens had money when they went to the mall, just as I did |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 06:40 PM |
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Fifteen years ago, they ran all of the cruisers off the drag here. |
Downwinder |
Aug-07-10 06:10 PM |
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They did the same in my hometown, and it simply drove the teens into the countryside or private |
apocalypsehow |
Aug-08-10 04:10 PM |
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Mall has always been a good place to catch a nice throw down over the weekend |
PfcHammer |
Aug-07-10 05:52 PM |
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A couple of the malls where I live had to do this. |
ingac70 |
Aug-07-10 06:03 PM |
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Same here |
Sherman A1 |
Aug-07-10 06:19 PM |
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Some of my malls did this. I like it. |
emilyg |
Aug-07-10 06:22 PM |
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Mall retailers here don't like the policy |
masshole |
Aug-07-10 06:25 PM |
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I think there are better ways to handle the problem... |
hlthe2b |
Aug-07-10 06:45 PM |
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Right. It sends the lousy message that all teens will be punished because of the |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 07:17 PM |
#28 |
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That's life. Why can't I buy more than one package of sudafed? |
X_Digger |
Aug-09-10 04:55 PM |
#183 |
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That was a bullshit provision |
JonLP24 |
Aug-09-10 05:06 PM |
#185 |
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It was a comment on the 'a few people screw it up for the rest of us' statement. |
X_Digger |
Aug-09-10 05:16 PM |
#186 |
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Like I said |
JonLP24 |
Aug-09-10 05:21 PM |
#187 |
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Mixed feelings about this |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-07-10 06:44 PM |
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The Mall's running an escort service? |
izquierdista |
Aug-07-10 06:48 PM |
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It's private property and they have made a business decision. |
Synicus Maximus |
Aug-07-10 06:52 PM |
#24 |
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Right. And I would have made a business decision, as a parent, to boycott them. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 07:15 PM |
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Sounds discriminatory to me |
depakid |
Aug-07-10 08:42 PM |
#41 |
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Born of fear and fostered by people who want to take advantage of that fear. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:49 PM |
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Er, aren't many mall retail EMPLOYEES in this age range? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Aug-07-10 06:59 PM |
#25 |
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Lots of 16 and 17 year olds work in the malls. n/t |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 07:16 PM |
#27 |
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That was my first thought. My first job was in a mall. I was 14. |
onehandle |
Aug-08-10 07:41 AM |
#103 |
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If there were something for kids to do besides hang out at the mall... Around here |
madmom |
Aug-07-10 07:55 PM |
#32 |
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The clear answer is 3:30pm curfews! |
Posteritatis |
Aug-07-10 08:38 PM |
#38 |
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We just had a supposedly "gang-related" shooting in a family park near us. |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:46 PM |
#42 |
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Ooh, you've found my current favorite rant button on the subject |
Posteritatis |
Aug-07-10 09:02 PM |
#49 |
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Are you in Canada? England? I guess teens are the new "wedge" group, |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:31 PM |
#57 |
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Canada, and yep, they are |
Posteritatis |
Aug-07-10 10:43 PM |
#63 |
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Come to my Canadian city, 13 year olds run with gangs, steal cars and kill people.....and... |
Darth_Kitten |
Aug-08-10 03:18 PM |
#146 |
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What's a kid to do?... uhm, homework? |
boppers |
Aug-08-10 04:12 PM |
#161 |
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I used to be a mall security guard. |
Ian David |
Aug-07-10 07:57 PM |
#33 |
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I think too often people are afraid to just talk to kids. |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-08-10 02:47 PM |
#140 |
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Like the "Mall Ninja"? |
Gaedel |
Aug-08-10 03:22 PM |
#149 |
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New efforts to brand anyone under 18 as "juvenile delinquent" ... "fear our youth!!" ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-07-10 08:05 PM |
#35 |
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Nanny state. What, say you? It's not nanny state because a private corporation isn't the State? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-07-10 08:12 PM |
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And it's not like the state isn't a fan of this sort of thing half the time. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Aug-07-10 08:38 PM |
#39 |
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You know what? Turn this around |
Book Lover |
Aug-07-10 08:30 PM |
#37 |
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But, but, but, consumers are 70% of the economy. |
Downwinder |
Aug-07-10 08:38 PM |
#40 |
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My kids didn't actually spend much time at the mall. But they did buy their own |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:56 PM |
#47 |
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We don't give teens a lot of places to go. In small towns, they can hang out |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:51 PM |
#45 |
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Well, as I say below |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-08-10 02:53 PM |
#142 |
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I have to agree. I spent my Summers at the public library, the park, at my friend's home |
Lorien |
Aug-08-10 02:52 AM |
#100 |
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I'd be all in favor of that |
JerseygirlCT |
Aug-08-10 02:52 PM |
#141 |
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The Rethugs want to turn teens into the next wedge group |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 08:48 PM |
#43 |
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papers please! |
Soylent Brice |
Aug-07-10 09:05 PM |
#51 |
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Sounds like a gigantic waste of time. |
lib2DaBone |
Aug-07-10 09:51 PM |
#54 |
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There is nothing at that mall... |
DAMANgoldberg |
Aug-07-10 09:57 PM |
#55 |
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Exactly. They'll lose more business than they'll gain. If my teens had to have me |
pnwmom |
Aug-07-10 10:37 PM |
#61 |
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I wonder how long before nearby mails start advertising that they don't have this policy... |
PFunk |
Aug-07-10 10:21 PM |
#56 |
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Are we turning into Saudi Arabia... |
JCMach1 |
Aug-07-10 10:43 PM |
#64 |
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I like it. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-10 11:02 PM |
#66 |
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OMG, Call the WAAAAAHmbulance! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-10 11:20 PM |
#69 |
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No, my peers and I.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-10 11:37 PM |
#71 |
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And so are kids today. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-10 11:48 PM |
#72 |
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Have you been to a large, busy mall on a Friday or Saturday night? |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-10 11:56 PM |
#73 |
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I have NEVER seen a fight at the local mall. The teens at the mall are well behaved. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-10 12:03 AM |
#74 |
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Who knows.. wasn't like that in Virginia in the 70's, either. n/t |
X_Digger |
Aug-08-10 12:13 AM |
#75 |
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Or maybe Dallas just sucks! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-10 12:15 AM |
#76 |
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That could be the problem. |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:48 AM |
#89 |
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Wait a second, my friend. The DALLAS COWBOYS are America's team!! |
madinmaryland |
Aug-08-10 10:13 AM |
#119 |
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Cowbabies SUCK! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-10 03:07 PM |
#143 |
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You are a Vikings fan??? |
madinmaryland |
Aug-08-10 03:55 PM |
#154 |
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Yes I am! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-08-10 04:06 PM |
#158 |
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Then that explains it - I just spent a week in Fargo and it's not Dallas. The two are not even |
apocalypsehow |
Aug-08-10 04:25 PM |
#164 |
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Frequently. And I've never seen anything like what you described. |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:46 AM |
#88 |
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And the vast majority of teens today are also well-behaved, even though |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:40 AM |
#87 |
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I'd like to be able to go into the world without any old fogies like you, |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:34 AM |
#85 |
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There are disrespectful shits in all age groups. |
City Lights |
Aug-08-10 10:56 AM |
#127 |
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The last movie I attended on a weekend night was the last of the new 'star wars' movies. |
X_Digger |
Aug-08-10 06:13 PM |
#165 |
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I see a new reality show on FOX |
npk |
Aug-08-10 04:02 PM |
#156 |
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This is ageist bullshit. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-10 11:13 PM |
#67 |
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I was in Mall of America this week and they had signs up |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-07-10 11:22 PM |
#70 |
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"Packs of wild teenagers" sounds like fear-mongering to me. |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:49 AM |
#90 |
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I watched them knock an elderly woman down and run off laughing |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-08-10 01:52 AM |
#93 |
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You watched someone do something bad. That doesn't make all teens bad. |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 02:00 AM |
#96 |
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I have been at the MOA on week nights when the age limit is not enforced |
dflprincess |
Aug-08-10 07:33 PM |
#169 |
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And you know what I've seen adults do? |
jberryhill |
Aug-08-10 10:53 AM |
#126 |
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Future Walmart christmas death tramplers. |
L0oniX |
Aug-08-10 11:41 AM |
#136 |
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It's been "literally destroyed" ? Jesus. I didn't see |
saltpoint |
Aug-08-10 10:23 AM |
#121 |
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It's likely to be a trend that sticks. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-08-10 11:01 AM |
#128 |
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At MOA the age limit is 16 |
dflprincess |
Aug-08-10 07:24 PM |
#168 |
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Here's why this is stupid... |
Xicano |
Aug-08-10 01:05 AM |
#80 |
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it's only a loss if parents expected the mall to be a "defacto" safe haven for the kids |
bettyellen |
Aug-08-10 09:54 AM |
#115 |
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The mall and its patrons don't care where the kids go next. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-08-10 03:32 PM |
#150 |
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in my nightmares malls charge a ticket fee & a parking fee...... |
KakistocracyHater |
Aug-08-10 01:34 AM |
#84 |
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There's a mall in Jersey City that charges for parking. |
smokey nj |
Aug-08-10 11:09 AM |
#132 |
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However, unlike the vast majority of malls, Newport Center is well served by transit |
KamaAina |
Aug-09-10 05:34 PM |
#188 |
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when will these damn kids learn to stay off my lawn? |
Tunkamerica |
Aug-08-10 01:51 AM |
#92 |
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Yeah, and when will they stop bouncing their basketballs? |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 01:57 AM |
#95 |
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This is what I think people should do when encountering groups of teens at the mall. |
pnwmom |
Aug-08-10 02:16 AM |
#99 |
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no offense you really need to get out more, teens around here would verbally assault you for that |
bettyellen |
Aug-08-10 10:08 AM |
#116 |
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Until you get to the one (or ones) who look back at you with their heads |
Obamanaut |
Aug-08-10 10:48 AM |
#125 |
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I've always been amazed at how threads like this always get hundreds of replies |
Lorien |
Aug-08-10 02:56 AM |
#101 |
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I'm not surprised. |
Q3JR4 |
Aug-08-10 03:02 AM |
#102 |
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Stupid. Just stupid. Nt |
krabigirl |
Aug-08-10 08:06 AM |
#104 |
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When I was a teenager in the late 60s-mid 70s |
Urban Prairie |
Aug-08-10 08:56 AM |
#107 |
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+ we weren;t'allowed unsupervised in Macy's unless we were well behaved and actually really shopping |
bettyellen |
Aug-08-10 10:09 AM |
#117 |
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dupe |
bettyellen |
Aug-08-10 10:09 AM |
#118 |
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I wonder how many of the people who say they stopped going to the mall because of teens |
Radical Activist |
Aug-08-10 08:59 AM |
#108 |
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Yes, because anyone who complains about teens |
kiva |
Aug-08-10 09:13 AM |
#111 |
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Fearful people |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 12:21 AM |
#174 |
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And "high crime neighborhoods" are black neighborhoods? |
kiva |
Aug-09-10 01:09 AM |
#176 |
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When they're also low-income neighborhoods, |
Radical Activist |
Aug-09-10 02:14 AM |
#178 |
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You're right, why should I play dumb when I"m in the presence of a master? |
kiva |
Aug-09-10 10:03 AM |
#181 |
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Not me. I work in that part of town. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-08-10 04:13 PM |
#162 |
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Trust me they really need this badly. |
SmileyRose |
Aug-08-10 09:05 AM |
#109 |
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Any measure, no matter how extreme, should indeed |
saltpoint |
Aug-08-10 09:13 AM |
#110 |
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"Shopping is who we are" |
Radical Activist |
Aug-08-10 09:29 AM |
#112 |
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saltpoint |
Aug-08-10 09:32 AM |
#114 |
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It's a private business that wants to solve a problem. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-08-10 10:20 AM |
#120 |
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I think this Mall will soon learn of "unintended consequences." |
WinkyDink |
Aug-08-10 11:07 AM |
#131 |
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The Mall knows the consequences. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-08-10 11:20 AM |
#133 |
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Why are people talking about "babysitting" 17 year olds in this thread? |
noamnety |
Aug-08-10 10:39 AM |
#122 |
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because kids 10-15 are being dropped off with the expectaion they'll be watched over and stay dry + |
bettyellen |
Aug-08-10 12:28 PM |
#137 |
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+1 |
Darth_Kitten |
Aug-08-10 03:19 PM |
#147 |
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Well, speaking as a currently childless, daughter of a single parent for years and who babysat.... |
Darth_Kitten |
Aug-08-10 03:13 PM |
#144 |
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OMG. When I was in HS I didn't know ANYONE of college age! And my parents were not "Mall" types. |
WinkyDink |
Aug-08-10 11:05 AM |
#129 |
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Next they'll be dancing! |
Forkboy |
Aug-08-10 11:21 AM |
#135 |
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lol |
noamnety |
Aug-08-10 02:35 PM |
#139 |
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And how many youthful-looking 20-somethings will this piss off? |
starroute |
Aug-08-10 12:36 PM |
#138 |
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Make 'em PULL UP THEIR PANTS, while you're at it!!! |
Warren DeMontague |
Aug-08-10 03:16 PM |
#145 |
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And no backwards hats!!! |
Iggo |
Aug-09-10 12:34 AM |
#175 |
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What if the teenager works at the mall |
npk |
Aug-08-10 03:33 PM |
#151 |
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Perhaps the business where the teen works has other employees over 21. nt |
Obamanaut |
Aug-08-10 04:06 PM |
#157 |
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But wouldn't that force the teenage worker to carpool with another worker who is 18 or older |
npk |
Aug-08-10 04:11 PM |
#160 |
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No. Teenager drives to work. Teenager parks car. Teenager works |
Obamanaut |
Aug-08-10 04:16 PM |
#163 |
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Yea, we wouldn't want to keep these kids from being exposed to |
Subdivisions |
Aug-08-10 03:40 PM |
#153 |
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Good for that Mall. I wish they would do the same to the ones around here. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Aug-08-10 04:01 PM |
#155 |
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Dayton Mall north of Cincy's has had a policy like that for years. |
AngryOldDem |
Aug-08-10 06:50 PM |
#166 |
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i would let the mall know, they will no longer get my businesses, or the families. that is all. nt |
seabeyond |
Aug-08-10 11:31 PM |
#172 |
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This reminds me of grade school |
ohheckyeah |
Aug-09-10 02:21 AM |
#179 |
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It's their property, they can do with it as they please. |
Javaman |
Aug-09-10 09:13 AM |
#180 |
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I'll bet, if they looked into this further, they'd find it's the same few people |
KamaAina |
Aug-09-10 05:37 PM |
#189 |
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