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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:58 AM
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21. Hey Bill, I remember Vietnam. The same old bombs and bullets,
all the dead soldiers and civilians, but kinder and gentler words to describe it all.
Thats the american way.
dc
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  -The US isn't leaving Iraq, it's rebranding the occupation Better Believe It  Aug-05-10 08:37 AM   #0 
  - Wow only 50,000 "Nation Builders" left (forever)  saigon68   Aug-05-10 08:39 AM   #1 
  - that is not even counting  another saigon   Aug-05-10 09:39 AM   #17 
     - Ah yes---- the THUGS of Blackwater  saigon68   Aug-06-10 03:22 AM   #61 
  - It's not an "occupation" if US troops are staying at the Iraqis' request.  Nye Bevan   Aug-05-10 08:41 AM   #2 
  - Are they staying at the request of the Iraqi regime or the Iraqi people?  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 08:46 AM   #3 
  - Iraq has an elected government.  Nye Bevan   Aug-05-10 08:48 AM   #4 
  - The results of the election are still in dispute and has not been settled.  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 08:51 AM   #5 
  - It's not perfect but it's not Burma or Zimbabwe.  Nye Bevan   Aug-05-10 08:55 AM   #7 
     - WOW! You think democracy is on the agenda??? n/t  MattSh   Aug-06-10 05:16 AM   #62 
  - oh really?  another saigon   Aug-05-10 08:53 AM   #6 
  - So does the US.  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-05-10 06:24 PM   #36 
  - Like the History Channel's comparing Saddam's threat to Hitler's is beyond ludicrousness of the  indepat   Aug-05-10 11:49 AM   #26 
  - !  Dr.Phool   Aug-05-10 09:51 AM   #18 
  - Nye would have afit with his leg up if he saw you taking his name in vain.  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-05-10 06:13 PM   #33 
  - as long as the government was installed by us and maintains  ThomThom   Aug-05-10 08:11 PM   #48 
  - It is an occupation all the same.  burnsei sensei   Aug-06-10 06:15 AM   #65 
  - queue sensationalist BS  evirus   Aug-05-10 08:56 AM   #8 
  - its an occupation force and the statement about end of combat etc is a lie nt  msongs   Aug-05-10 08:58 AM   #9 
  - any evidence of that is what exactly?  evirus   Aug-05-10 09:02 AM   #10 
     - Jesus fucking Christ!!  pocoloco   Aug-05-10 09:13 AM   #15 
     - +1  ThomWV   Aug-05-10 09:58 AM   #22 
     - do you need to have the article explained to you?  another saigon   Aug-05-10 12:25 PM   #27 
  - So the banning of labor unions is also "sensationalist" bull shit?  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 09:02 AM   #11 
  - how is that anything other than a red harring?  evirus   Aug-05-10 09:06 AM   #12 
  - putting non violent teens in shackles in court is ok in your view as well. wonderful nt  msongs   Aug-05-10 09:09 AM   #13 
  - What's a red harring?  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 10:00 AM   #24 
  - busted  d_b   Aug-05-10 04:18 PM   #29 
  - Did you mean a "red harangue" as in a long passionate leftist pinko speech?  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 04:34 PM   #31 
  - Which do you think the people would have preferred: Socialism under  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-05-10 06:18 PM   #34 
     - Sadam was a socialist? That's news to socialists!  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 06:45 PM   #37 
        - Much of his regime seems to have been socialist. Ever heard of Stalin. To  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-05-10 07:06 PM   #43 
           - Can you name any socialist organizations in the United States that supported Sadam's regime?  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 09:29 PM   #50 
           - What is it with you two? Read these sites linked below:  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-07-10 03:12 PM   #70 
           - You're contradicting yourself.  Better Believe It   Aug-07-10 03:30 PM   #73 
              - On the contrary. Again, it's that literacy problem you have. Note in  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-07-10 05:33 PM   #74 
           - That was the point I was making. A nominally Communist state may and usually, in reality,  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-07-10 03:15 PM   #71 
           - Communism and socialism are not to be confounded.  burnsei sensei   Aug-06-10 06:18 AM   #66 
              - Socialism was hijacked by secularists, just as Communism was, by  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-07-10 03:20 PM   #72 
  - Well we are only there to protect the US Oil companies new contracts  grantcart   Aug-07-10 05:34 PM   #75 
  - New Coke  piratefish08   Aug-05-10 09:11 AM   #14 
  - It's almost like it was never about liberating people  raouldukelives   Aug-05-10 09:26 AM   #16 
  - It was just about looting, our dollars, their oil. The people are collateral nuisances.  glitch   Aug-05-10 09:52 AM   #19 
  - Amen. We must free the people from their oil.  burnsei sensei   Aug-06-10 06:20 AM   #67 
  - Not to forget that we had to comply with Osama's demands to vacate Saudi Arabia.  Dr.Phool   Aug-05-10 09:56 AM   #20 
  - I saw a brief but very funny cartoon the other day. I just wish I could  Joe Chi Minh   Aug-05-10 06:23 PM   #35 
  - Hey Bill, I remember Vietnam. The same old bombs and bullets,  david13   Aug-05-10 09:58 AM   #21 
  - "After this month's withdrawal, there will still be 50,000 US troops in 94 military bases"  ProSense   Aug-05-10 09:59 AM   #23 
  - Gareth Porter reported the same. "Remissioning" was the Petraeus plan for Iraq since late 2008.  seafan   Aug-05-10 10:32 AM   #25 
  - Thank you. CASE CLOSED!  Better Believe It   Aug-05-10 12:30 PM   #28 
  - Just posted Gareth Porter's interview on The Real News....  Junkdrawer   Aug-05-10 04:30 PM   #30 
  - thank you!  another saigon   Aug-05-10 04:40 PM   #32 
  - +1000  G_j   Aug-05-10 06:47 PM   #38 
  - a rose by any other name...  maryf   Aug-05-10 07:07 PM   #44 
  - The oil fields were the deal all along -  TBF   Aug-05-10 06:49 PM   #39 
  - And we'll be there as long as the oil is flowing  maryf   Aug-05-10 10:35 PM   #53 
  - Right except US companies didn't win any contracts undermining that whole meme.  grantcart   Aug-07-10 05:35 PM   #76 
  - We still have 50K troops in Germany. Is that an "occupation"? Is WWII not over?  scheming daemons   Aug-05-10 06:50 PM   #40 
  - Thank you for bringing that up - they should come home too.  TBF   Aug-06-10 09:45 AM   #68 
  - Our military has become our national religion.  undeterred   Aug-05-10 06:58 PM   #41 
  - K&R  maryf   Aug-05-10 07:04 PM   #42 
  - Obama just waves his Magic Wand,  bvar22   Aug-05-10 07:18 PM   #45 
  - Change you can see right through  FiveGoodMen   Aug-05-10 07:34 PM   #46 
  - Hope that is there one minute and gone the next!!! hocus pocus...  maryf   Aug-05-10 10:44 PM   #55 
  - Well that's because we're fuckin' retards who don't understand chess.  TBF   Aug-06-10 09:47 AM   #69 
  - Obama's plan  johnnie   Aug-05-10 07:46 PM   #47 
  - It looks like he's doing exactly what he promised to do.  Radical Activist   Aug-06-10 12:49 AM   #59 
  - "...the US, whose embassy in Baghdad is now the size of Vatican City, has no intention of letting go  Poll_Blind   Aug-05-10 09:21 PM   #49 
  - ny times reported this a month or so ago, interviewed top commanders, who said it's just semantics  amborin   Aug-05-10 09:35 PM   #51 
  - ny times: 2 months ago: "an exercise in semantics" US not really leaving  amborin   Aug-05-10 09:35 PM   #52 
  - yep not just a military campaign but a marketing one...  maryf   Aug-05-10 10:42 PM   #54 
  - who, i would like to know, thought otherwise? nt  tomp   Aug-06-10 12:36 AM   #56 
  - McCain was probably right that we'll be in Iraq for 50 years or more.  Radical Activist   Aug-06-10 12:45 AM   #57 
  - Yes, we're still there. But now we won't fight back.  sofa king   Aug-06-10 12:48 AM   #58 
  - How great is that?  Radical Activist   Aug-06-10 12:50 AM   #60 
  - The US Administration  dipsydoodle   Aug-06-10 05:44 AM   #63 
  - Well what do you expect?  burnsei sensei   Aug-06-10 06:13 AM   #64 
 

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