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Thu Aug-05-10 09:58 AM
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| 21. Hey Bill, I remember Vietnam. The same old bombs and bullets, |
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all the dead soldiers and civilians, but kinder and gentler words to describe it all. Thats the american way. dc
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| -The US isn't leaving Iraq, it's rebranding the occupation |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 08:37 AM |
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Wow only 50,000 "Nation Builders" left (forever) |
saigon68 |
Aug-05-10 08:39 AM |
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that is not even counting |
another saigon |
Aug-05-10 09:39 AM |
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Ah yes---- the THUGS of Blackwater |
saigon68 |
Aug-06-10 03:22 AM |
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It's not an "occupation" if US troops are staying at the Iraqis' request. |
Nye Bevan |
Aug-05-10 08:41 AM |
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Are they staying at the request of the Iraqi regime or the Iraqi people? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 08:46 AM |
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Iraq has an elected government. |
Nye Bevan |
Aug-05-10 08:48 AM |
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The results of the election are still in dispute and has not been settled. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 08:51 AM |
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It's not perfect but it's not Burma or Zimbabwe. |
Nye Bevan |
Aug-05-10 08:55 AM |
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WOW! You think democracy is on the agenda??? n/t |
MattSh |
Aug-06-10 05:16 AM |
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oh really? |
another saigon |
Aug-05-10 08:53 AM |
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So does the US. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-05-10 06:24 PM |
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Like the History Channel's comparing Saddam's threat to Hitler's is beyond ludicrousness of the |
indepat |
Aug-05-10 11:49 AM |
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! |
Dr.Phool |
Aug-05-10 09:51 AM |
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Nye would have afit with his leg up if he saw you taking his name in vain. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-05-10 06:13 PM |
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as long as the government was installed by us and maintains |
ThomThom |
Aug-05-10 08:11 PM |
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It is an occupation all the same. |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-06-10 06:15 AM |
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queue sensationalist BS |
evirus |
Aug-05-10 08:56 AM |
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its an occupation force and the statement about end of combat etc is a lie nt |
msongs |
Aug-05-10 08:58 AM |
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any evidence of that is what exactly? |
evirus |
Aug-05-10 09:02 AM |
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Jesus fucking Christ!! |
pocoloco |
Aug-05-10 09:13 AM |
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+1 |
ThomWV |
Aug-05-10 09:58 AM |
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do you need to have the article explained to you? |
another saigon |
Aug-05-10 12:25 PM |
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So the banning of labor unions is also "sensationalist" bull shit? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 09:02 AM |
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how is that anything other than a red harring? |
evirus |
Aug-05-10 09:06 AM |
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putting non violent teens in shackles in court is ok in your view as well. wonderful nt |
msongs |
Aug-05-10 09:09 AM |
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What's a red harring? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 10:00 AM |
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busted |
d_b |
Aug-05-10 04:18 PM |
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Did you mean a "red harangue" as in a long passionate leftist pinko speech? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 04:34 PM |
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Which do you think the people would have preferred: Socialism under |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-05-10 06:18 PM |
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Sadam was a socialist? That's news to socialists! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 06:45 PM |
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Much of his regime seems to have been socialist. Ever heard of Stalin. To |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-05-10 07:06 PM |
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Can you name any socialist organizations in the United States that supported Sadam's regime? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 09:29 PM |
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What is it with you two? Read these sites linked below: |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-07-10 03:12 PM |
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You're contradicting yourself. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-07-10 03:30 PM |
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On the contrary. Again, it's that literacy problem you have. Note in |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-07-10 05:33 PM |
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That was the point I was making. A nominally Communist state may and usually, in reality, |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-07-10 03:15 PM |
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Communism and socialism are not to be confounded. |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-06-10 06:18 AM |
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Socialism was hijacked by secularists, just as Communism was, by |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-07-10 03:20 PM |
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Well we are only there to protect the US Oil companies new contracts |
grantcart |
Aug-07-10 05:34 PM |
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New Coke |
piratefish08 |
Aug-05-10 09:11 AM |
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It's almost like it was never about liberating people |
raouldukelives |
Aug-05-10 09:26 AM |
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It was just about looting, our dollars, their oil. The people are collateral nuisances. |
glitch |
Aug-05-10 09:52 AM |
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Amen. We must free the people from their oil. |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-06-10 06:20 AM |
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Not to forget that we had to comply with Osama's demands to vacate Saudi Arabia. |
Dr.Phool |
Aug-05-10 09:56 AM |
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I saw a brief but very funny cartoon the other day. I just wish I could |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-05-10 06:23 PM |
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Hey Bill, I remember Vietnam. The same old bombs and bullets, |
david13 |
Aug-05-10 09:58 AM |
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"After this month's withdrawal, there will still be 50,000 US troops in 94 military bases" |
ProSense |
Aug-05-10 09:59 AM |
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Gareth Porter reported the same. "Remissioning" was the Petraeus plan for Iraq since late 2008. |
seafan |
Aug-05-10 10:32 AM |
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Thank you. CASE CLOSED! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-05-10 12:30 PM |
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Just posted Gareth Porter's interview on The Real News.... |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-05-10 04:30 PM |
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thank you! |
another saigon |
Aug-05-10 04:40 PM |
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+1000 |
G_j |
Aug-05-10 06:47 PM |
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a rose by any other name... |
maryf |
Aug-05-10 07:07 PM |
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The oil fields were the deal all along - |
TBF |
Aug-05-10 06:49 PM |
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And we'll be there as long as the oil is flowing |
maryf |
Aug-05-10 10:35 PM |
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Right except US companies didn't win any contracts undermining that whole meme. |
grantcart |
Aug-07-10 05:35 PM |
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We still have 50K troops in Germany. Is that an "occupation"? Is WWII not over? |
scheming daemons |
Aug-05-10 06:50 PM |
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Thank you for bringing that up - they should come home too. |
TBF |
Aug-06-10 09:45 AM |
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Our military has become our national religion. |
undeterred |
Aug-05-10 06:58 PM |
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K&R |
maryf |
Aug-05-10 07:04 PM |
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Obama just waves his Magic Wand, |
bvar22 |
Aug-05-10 07:18 PM |
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Change you can see right through |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-05-10 07:34 PM |
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Hope that is there one minute and gone the next!!! hocus pocus... |
maryf |
Aug-05-10 10:44 PM |
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Well that's because we're fuckin' retards who don't understand chess. |
TBF |
Aug-06-10 09:47 AM |
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Obama's plan |
johnnie |
Aug-05-10 07:46 PM |
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It looks like he's doing exactly what he promised to do. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-06-10 12:49 AM |
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"...the US, whose embassy in Baghdad is now the size of Vatican City, has no intention of letting go |
Poll_Blind |
Aug-05-10 09:21 PM |
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ny times reported this a month or so ago, interviewed top commanders, who said it's just semantics |
amborin |
Aug-05-10 09:35 PM |
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ny times: 2 months ago: "an exercise in semantics" US not really leaving |
amborin |
Aug-05-10 09:35 PM |
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yep not just a military campaign but a marketing one... |
maryf |
Aug-05-10 10:42 PM |
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who, i would like to know, thought otherwise? nt |
tomp |
Aug-06-10 12:36 AM |
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McCain was probably right that we'll be in Iraq for 50 years or more. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-06-10 12:45 AM |
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Yes, we're still there. But now we won't fight back. |
sofa king |
Aug-06-10 12:48 AM |
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How great is that? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-06-10 12:50 AM |
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The US Administration |
dipsydoodle |
Aug-06-10 05:44 AM |
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Well what do you expect? |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-06-10 06:13 AM |
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