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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:18 PM
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245. Interesting . . . but . ..
I'm not familiar with that event that I recall . .

can you give a line or two to what you're talking about?

:)
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  -Well, the coup detat is over, and they won. (Chris Hedges) kpete  Aug-03-10 09:37 AM   #0 
  - Chris is always a tough read  another saigon   Aug-03-10 09:42 AM   #1 
  - What do you mean by 'tough read'  ThomWV   Aug-03-10 09:46 AM   #5 
     - tough read:  another saigon   Aug-03-10 10:34 AM   #19 
     - I usually have to take more than one swing at his work  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 01:11 PM   #69 
        - I hear you  another saigon   Aug-03-10 01:23 PM   #80 
        - I was thinking the same thing this morning.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:35 PM   #120 
           - Have you read "War is a force that gives us meaning?"  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:32 PM   #143 
           - I don't think there are many "ordinary" people left.  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:46 PM   #199 
              - War is a Force  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:07 AM   #295 
        - I have same reaction to him. He wields truth like a dagger.  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-04-10 06:43 AM   #287 
     - "especially brutal" key phrasing right there n/t  freeplessinseattle   Aug-04-10 01:30 AM   #276 
  - Thank you, and I agree with your disclaimer.  ThomWV   Aug-03-10 09:44 AM   #2 
  - B I N G O  Lost4words   Aug-03-10 09:45 AM   #3 
  - K&R  inna   Aug-03-10 09:46 AM   #4 
  - His message is vital  n2doc   Aug-03-10 09:50 AM   #6 
  - which is how so many people who should have known better voted for Obama.  Winterblues   Aug-03-10 09:50 AM   #7 
  - Which is why I wrote Gore's name in.  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 09:55 AM   #9 
  - Gore was close to winning it all in 08?  Wednesdays   Aug-03-10 01:21 PM   #78 
     - did I say any such thing? I think not.  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #149 
  - maybe Hillary would have  hfojvt   Aug-03-10 10:25 AM   #18 
  - Hillary is DLC -- Nader is a populist --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:05 PM   #237 
     - I wonder if someone like Nader  BonnieJW   Aug-04-10 08:08 AM   #291 
  - different cuts of the same cloth, ultimately ...  Myrina   Aug-03-10 11:27 AM   #29 
  - +1.  SammyWinstonJack   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #30 
  - Sadly, I agree n/t  MissDeeds   Aug-03-10 12:54 PM   #63 
  - actually, your "us v. them" is reptilian thinking just as much part of the same cloth.  KittyWampus   Aug-03-10 12:56 PM   #65 
  - Reptilian. How lovely.  Myrina   Aug-03-10 02:45 PM   #127 
  - reptilian?  inna   Aug-03-10 07:12 PM   #208 
  - the vilest comment of the day, afaic.  inna   Aug-03-10 07:15 PM   #211 
     - then you must not have a basic understanding of the human brain or  KittyWampus   Aug-03-10 09:37 PM   #253 
  - I think there is/was a difference. Obama had the OPPORTUNITY to bring change.  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 01:08 PM   #67 
  - + My household. n/t  truedelphi   Aug-03-10 04:46 PM   #172 
  - Oh, you mean he didn't behave as Bush did...  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 05:09 PM   #175 
  - Analogy fail. I would never promise my children something that I did not intend to deliver.  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 06:50 PM   #201 
  - Ever heard of The Hyde Amendment? eom  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 07:13 PM   #209 
     - Is this yet another "Obama is trapped and can't say so" post?  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 07:20 PM   #215 
        - You want him to circumvent the law?  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 07:24 PM   #216 
  - Oh, cut the crap finally!  snake in the grass   Aug-03-10 07:19 PM   #214 
  - +1,000,000,000  green917   Aug-04-10 01:25 AM   #275 
  - What would you call putting "The Cat Food Commission" in place with executive order?  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:14 PM   #242 
  - Unfortunately, Obama has behaved too much as Bush would have . . . !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:15 PM   #243 
  - Unfortunately he has acted precisely as Bush did or in some cases even worse.  alarimer   Aug-03-10 11:14 PM   #262 
  - he just ran roughshod over the left...  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:11 AM   #270 
  - Correct . . . in the end, Obama has stomped any opportunity for change into the ground ...  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:13 PM   #240 
     - long before obama got here i felt it would come to this.  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:19 AM   #271 
     - i'm with you. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 09:53 AM   #298 
     - Yes . . . the plans for "survival" are well laid out in "Dr. Strangelove" ... or  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:00 PM   #315 
     - That's a *scalpel*, not a *hatchet.* I fear that soon the 2008 presidential debates  metapunditedgy   Aug-04-10 11:30 AM   #306 
        - Not clear on your comment . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:02 PM   #316 
           - It's a reference to one of the presidential debates.  metapunditedgy   Aug-04-10 05:09 PM   #322 
              - Thank you -- my apologies for not getting it -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 08:51 PM   #327 
  - Right -- it's the system that's killing the planet, it won't allow itself to be "changed"  villager   Aug-03-10 01:18 PM   #75 
  - Yes - -"both parties" infected with the corporatism cancer now . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:10 PM   #239 
     - we in Fla have been hearing that Meme since 2000, every time we tried to change the system in Fla  flyarm   Aug-03-10 09:39 PM   #255 
     - Interesting review . . . much of which I didn't know . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:09 PM   #260 
     - In 2008 we were the only state in the nation to Ban DRE's ..and how were we paid back?  flyarm   Aug-04-10 01:59 AM   #277 
        - Thanks . . . as another poster is saying .. don't think many of us know what  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:06 PM   #317 
     - Can you please tell me where to go to read about this. I knew something  peacetalksforall   Aug-04-10 08:32 AM   #292 
     - I lived in Ft Laud during that fubar mess  HillbillyBob   Aug-05-10 07:23 PM   #340 
     - WSA WSA WSA  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:11 AM   #296 
        - Interesting overview . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 05:06 PM   #321 
  - You could have just said GI Joe and Barbie  NoSheep   Aug-03-10 12:35 PM   #53 
  - Voted for Obama  havbrush   Aug-03-10 12:48 PM   #57 
  - Just because one was an apparent shit sandwich doesnt take the disgust out of what we got.  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:38 PM   #145 
  - thumbs up  renate   Aug-03-10 06:14 PM   #190 
  - Respond to a poor outcome with the "greater evil" . . . adults can do better than that -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:17 PM   #244 
  - bro, try paragraphs.  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:27 AM   #272 
  - There were more candidates than Obama and the Barbie twins.  MedicalAdmin   Aug-03-10 01:07 PM   #66 
  - the lesser of two evils again?  another saigon   Aug-03-10 01:54 PM   #94 
  - better than the greater of the two evils no?  uponit7771   Aug-03-10 06:29 PM   #194 
  - Maybe you missed Hedges'  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:19 PM   #176 
  - You're arguing against the Obama choice with another false choice . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:03 PM   #236 
  - Sadly, very sadly, I must agree 100%  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 09:54 AM   #8 
  - It's painful to admit the truth  peace frog   Aug-03-10 06:09 PM   #188 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Aug-03-10 09:57 AM   #10 
  - and thanks  kpete   Aug-03-10 10:05 AM   #13 
  - I remember when Andy Stevens talked about his Kathrine Harris experiences.  midnight   Aug-03-10 10:01 AM   #11 
  - Interesting . . . but . ..  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:18 PM   #245 
  - "Well, the coup detat is over, and they won. We lost. And now we have to learn to cope with it."  ProSense   Aug-03-10 10:02 AM   #12 
  - Golly. Palin and anti-science in one DU reply.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 11:17 AM   #25 
  - Well, the paid establishment doesn't like it when people shed light on reality.  TheWatcher   Aug-03-10 11:57 AM   #40 
  - Mebbie reflection, echos in light, could shed more understanding on reality?n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-03-10 02:47 PM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #150 
  - I found this to be very rude.  Moosepoop   Aug-03-10 05:41 PM   #183 
  - Seems you hit a nerve... not one, but TWO deleted responses to your post...  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:53 PM   #202 
  - + 1 million!! right on! eom  flyarm   Aug-03-10 09:30 PM   #250 
  - Don't you get it?  Ignis   Aug-03-10 12:00 PM   #42 
     - Yep. I must really hate democracy.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 02:35 PM   #121 
  - Yes, the damage is done, might as well ignore it and in fact even  obxhead   Aug-03-10 11:39 AM   #35 
  - Buy duct tape.  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:12 PM   #71 
     - I called the doc.  obxhead   Aug-03-10 01:15 PM   #73 
        - I'm not really a doctor, but I play one on DU.  Dr.Phool   Aug-03-10 02:53 PM   #132 
        - SNAP  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 09:09 PM   #238 
  - You again?  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:41 PM   #146 
  - What took you so long to post your canned reply?  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:11 PM   #189 
  - Dude, you need to stop trolling here.  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 04:03 AM   #282 
  - Yes. Finally a truth teller  Doctor_J   Aug-03-10 10:09 AM   #14 
  - Yes, more and more people are waking up.  truedelphi   Aug-04-10 08:49 PM   #326 
  - I heard on NPR yesterday morning that it costs $1.2 million a year for each soldier in Afghanistan  KansDem   Aug-03-10 10:10 AM   #15 
  - Amazing stupidity we're paying for --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:21 PM   #246 
  - "Do the orders still stand?"  Ezlivin   Aug-03-10 10:11 AM   #16 
  - It was believed to be a "stand down" order to military aircraft, according to  Duval   Aug-03-10 05:28 PM   #179 
  - And that's really interesting . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:27 PM   #249 
  - Good reminder -- thanks!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:23 PM   #247 
  - Untrue and stupid.  robcon   Aug-03-10 10:19 AM   #17 
  - True and scary.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 11:19 AM   #26 
  - is blind pessimism and cynicism any better?  Bodhi BloodWave   Aug-05-10 01:20 PM   #333 
  - Mr. robcon, front desk. This is your wednesday wake-up call.  Joe Fields   Aug-04-10 12:09 PM   #308 
  - This is why I have jumped ship basically.  Bonobo   Aug-03-10 10:38 AM   #20 
  - You think civilization is collapsing and you want 4-5% on your liquid assets?  enough   Aug-03-10 11:06 AM   #22 
  - I don't know if it is, or when.  Bonobo   Aug-03-10 11:09 AM   #23 
  - For those who are desperate to stay in the clutches of the Accepted Paradigm, because it's the only  TheWatcher   Aug-03-10 12:03 PM   #43 
  - And, apparently, electricity and wiring for a computer and internet setup.  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 01:34 PM   #85 
     - Well, I'm certainly going to use it while it lasts  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:54 PM   #157 
     - I guess it will be the end of DU. Or maybe we can resort to mirrors and smoke signals. n/t  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 06:55 PM   #203 
  - We "jumped ship" in 2006,  bvar22   Aug-03-10 12:45 PM   #55 
  - We have basically 10% inflation, and you want 4% growth...  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:47 PM   #155 
     - If I could afford it I would invest in usable commodities.  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 06:58 PM   #205 
        - Derelict farms are also good.  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:53 AM   #280 
  - Recommend.  TexasObserver   Aug-03-10 10:39 AM   #21 
  - I was thinking this morning  deutsey   Aug-03-10 11:09 AM   #24 
  - I'm 55. I don't think we'll see the kind of change needed in my life time. Maybe not our children's  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 01:19 PM   #76 
     - Because truth is no longer truth, but just one side of a story.  CLANG   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #101 
     - I'm not happy about it, but I agree  deutsey   Aug-03-10 03:44 PM   #152 
        - I tried leaving after the 2000 selection but was too old to emigrate as a skilled worker.  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 04:22 PM   #166 
           - So it's too late for  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:27 PM   #178 
              - 45 was the upper limit for any place I checked for skilled workers. It was 40 in some places.  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 05:43 PM   #184 
  - K & R, for this is the truth! n/t  RoccoR5955   Aug-03-10 11:20 AM   #27 
  - Due to Citizens United and hackable electronic voting I also concur with this conclusion.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Aug-03-10 11:21 AM   #28 
  - Yep. Now what are we going to do? n/t  Beam Me Up   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #31 
  - the only thing that's left for us to do.  keepCAblue   Aug-03-10 12:04 PM   #45 
     - Dumbed down, drugged up and hypnotized by media bait & switch.  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:47 PM   #56 
     - The internet is bringing some common understand -- most of us feel the same way about things --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:32 PM   #251 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #32 
  - The thing about old age...it doesn't last very long  russspeakeasy   Aug-03-10 11:45 AM   #37 
     - When it's good, it's never long enough.....  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 11:57 AM   #41 
  - ... and another BIG WET kiss for the GOP nt  flamingdem   Aug-03-10 11:33 AM   #33 
  - Strongly recommended, with a major caveat  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 11:38 AM   #34 
  - "Such an extreme shift in perception may appear somewhat mystical...."  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 12:04 PM   #44 
  - Improbable? Perhaps.  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 12:13 PM   #49 
     - Without such a shift...nothing will change.n/t  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:53 PM   #61 
  - Koyaanisquatsi ...that's where we seem to be....  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:51 PM   #59 
  - "wholesale revolution in our worldview"  ozone_man   Aug-03-10 01:40 PM   #88 
  - Capitalist problems do not have capitalist solutions  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:41 PM   #147 
  - The Enlightenment would not have happened if Cable "News" and  Doctor_J   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #148 
  - Society is too caught up in iPhones, Kindles, and poking each other on Facebook  Roland99   Aug-03-10 11:42 AM   #36 
  - That's why I hang out with nudists....  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 04:02 PM   #162 
  - Sometimes I think the only  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:30 PM   #180 
     - I'm thinking it will more like Stephen King's book, "Cell"  Roland99   Aug-04-10 12:29 PM   #309 
        - I don't read his  femrap   Aug-04-10 08:29 PM   #325 
  - I recently recieved a fundraising "poll" from the Dems  caraher   Aug-03-10 11:47 AM   #38 
  - I'll bet none of those 14 issues were:  bvar22   Aug-03-10 06:39 PM   #197 
     - True  caraher   Aug-04-10 05:38 AM   #286 
  - Kitten hater.  DirkGently   Aug-03-10 11:51 AM   #39 
  - anybody who thinks they can fundamentally change society's structures  northernlights   Aug-03-10 12:07 PM   #46 
  - Great post and great advice!  earth mom   Aug-03-10 02:07 PM   #103 
  - +100  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:37 PM   #122 
  - Exactly. We need to get out of the Gasoline consumption business  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 04:11 PM   #163 
  - Pentagon uses 80% of the oil -- making it a "national security issue" ...  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:38 PM   #254 
     - Personally, I say ban the Oil industry  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:57 AM   #281 
        - Oil industry propaganda -- billions spent over 50 years ... seemingly works...???  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 03:56 PM   #313 
           - Yes, shift to Cocoa Beans like the Oompa Loompas  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 07:04 PM   #323 
  - We need to uninvent the dollar bill -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:11 PM   #261 
  - The Nazis, backed by the Bushes, Rockefeller (Exxon/Chase), Morgan/Dulles WON the Second WORLD War  Liberation Angel   Aug-03-10 12:09 PM   #47 
  - I'm anxiously awaiting your materials - just subscribed to your YouTube channel...  Dennis Donovan   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #168 
  - There is much more to come  Liberation Angel   Aug-03-10 09:36 PM   #252 
  - I subscribed  Nite Owl   Aug-03-10 10:20 PM   #257 
  - Cool - I saw the new subs. THANKS!  Liberation Angel   Aug-04-10 05:00 PM   #319 
  - Same with the '63 coup on our people's government . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:14 PM   #263 
     - Hell FDR wanted to prosecute the Bushes and Rockefellers for backing Nazis  Liberation Angel   Aug-04-10 05:03 PM   #320 
        - I've wondered about that . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 11:50 PM   #328 
           - FDR did not dump Henry Wallace, he was maneuvered out by neocon dems  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 05:33 AM   #329 
              - Whoa . . . sometime I'd like to hear that story . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 11:44 AM   #330 
                 - Here's a link about the questions re: FDR's death (CT, etc.)  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 12:48 PM   #332 
                 - Thanks again - n/t  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 02:18 PM   #336 
                 - One more link  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 01:47 PM   #334 
                    - I'll save the links for another day . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 02:29 PM   #338 
                       - John Loftus says in "Secret War Against the Jews" that FDR wanted to nail the Nazi backers  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:20 PM   #341 
                          - I own that book . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 09:32 PM   #343 
                             - Check out my youtube site: LiberationAngels (link)  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:47 PM   #344 
                                - Ok . . . will check it soon . . saved --  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 10:49 PM   #346 
  - Thanks for feeding me, kpete. I've believed this for a long time. Rec. nt  bertman   Aug-03-10 12:10 PM   #48 
  - "..corporate entities that seek to keep us ignorant and disempowered and stop us from fighting back"  seafan   Aug-03-10 12:14 PM   #50 
  - thank you for posting this, Seafan. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 10:05 AM   #299 
  - Another hearty K&R  Stinky The Clown   Aug-03-10 12:29 PM   #51 
  - There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 12:30 PM   #52 
  - There will be no change until...  bvar22   Aug-03-10 12:49 PM   #58 
  - Hedges Is Full Of Shit  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 12:55 PM   #64 
     - Election 2008 was a crushing defeat for Progressives.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:11 PM   #70 
     - No, it wasn't  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:14 PM   #72 
     - Working to improve the World....  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:37 PM   #87 
     - "the rescue of the automobile industry; (Union Busting)"  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:51 PM   #92 
     - Yay! Blue Links!  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:16 PM   #191 
     - Here's another  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:17 PM   #74 
     - If Any ONE Election Cycle Can Defeat The American Progressive Movement  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 01:20 PM   #77 
        - "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??!!!"  bvar22   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #102 
     - +1  Gordan Shumway   Aug-03-10 01:56 PM   #96 
     - There is no way to say it better.  azmouse   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #100 
     - "cry because major climate change legislation wasn't passed on Jan. 22, 2009"  ProSense   Aug-03-10 02:18 PM   #110 
     - How do you build on the win of Obama when he isn't building anything himself?  earth mom   Aug-03-10 02:48 PM   #130 
     - We tried to form a progressive coalition with Obama  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:47 PM   #154 
     - Do you ever read the many "conservative" FEAR-BASED posts here . . .??  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:57 PM   #256 
  - Re:There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse  Jonny   Aug-03-10 01:21 PM   #79 
  - When someone points out the futility of changing out regular light bulbs  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:17 PM   #108 
  - Or people who have a nervous...  CoffeeCat   Aug-03-10 01:47 PM   #90 
  - So you think that Americans are fundamentally different human beings than Europeans?  Fumesucker   Aug-03-10 02:44 PM   #126 
  - Americans Are Raised To Be "Whiny Babies"  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #169 
  - Thank you!  centerdem   Aug-03-10 06:25 PM   #193 
  - K&R /nt  Spheric   Aug-03-10 12:37 PM   #54 
  - So....what I take from this is:  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 12:53 PM   #60 
  - Food!? You want food? Do you think it just grows on trees? Don't you know that you are entitled  Greyhound   Aug-03-10 12:54 PM   #62 
  - Reads like a paranoid delusional rant  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-03-10 01:10 PM   #68 
  - Not surprising considering your screen name.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:28 PM   #83 
  - I was thinking the same thing....  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:36 PM   #181 
  - You don't know Chris Hedges from Adam, do you?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:29 PM   #116 
  - God dammit, read some Chomsky and get your mind out of the Establishment manufactured reality.  Odin2005   Aug-03-10 03:08 PM   #138 
  - A person would have to be downright..  sendero   Aug-03-10 05:56 PM   #187 
  - In Fairness to Mr. Hedges...  Steely_Dan   Aug-03-10 01:24 PM   #81 
  - K/R What a fascinating read,  Autumn   Aug-03-10 01:27 PM   #82 
  - I have a hard time believing that a Rhodes scholar dyke who cut her teeth in prison reform...  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 01:30 PM   #84 
  - Rachel haters? LOL, what does hate have to do with this?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 01:50 PM   #91 
     - The article linked to in the original post slammed Rachel Maddow for being part of Teh Ebil Sistim.  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 02:10 PM   #105 
        - And you collapsed that into hatred? Funny. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:15 PM   #107 
           - I used the term "hater" as shorthand. Don't be a nitpicker. n/t  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 02:18 PM   #109 
              - Shorthand for what? People who don't agree with you?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:15 PM   #212 
                 - People who, um, dislike Rachel Maddow for being part of Teh Machine...?  PanoramaIsland   Aug-04-10 02:55 PM   #310 
  - Climate change/global warming  havbrush   Aug-03-10 01:34 PM   #86 
  - don't read Chris Hedges if YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH  NAO   Aug-03-10 01:42 PM   #89 
  - Damn  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:56 PM   #158 
  - fascinating. thanks for posting this. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 10:15 AM   #302 
  - ignore  G_j   Aug-04-10 03:59 PM   #314 
  - Wow! Just....wow!!!  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 01:54 PM   #93 
  - The thing that I don't understand  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:33 PM   #119 
  - There are just some things that cannot and should not be  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 03:21 PM   #142 
     - Hedges was a war enabler? How so?  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:59 PM   #160 
     - maybe thinking of Chris Hitchens? nt.  druidity33   Aug-03-10 07:52 PM   #224 
     - That's sounds like a no. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:14 PM   #210 
     - But you did respond.  girl gone mad   Aug-04-10 04:58 AM   #285 
     - what a cop-out... you have no argument  fascisthunter   Aug-04-10 10:17 AM   #303 
  - project much? what an ugly and stupid comment.  inna   Aug-04-10 10:13 AM   #301 
  - Thanks for posting this! I'm not in denial about things, but my mistake is to keep thinking someone  earth mom   Aug-03-10 01:56 PM   #95 
  - Another great Hedges quote:  snot   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #167 
     - Powerful statement: "The question is, how do we limit the damage the powerful can do to us?"  midnight   Aug-03-10 08:19 PM   #229 
  - It's all over! Whatever will we do? IDEA! Mass suicide!  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 02:01 PM   #97 
  - So, how is he wrong?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:37 PM   #123 
  - Hey I agree with you.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 02:48 PM   #129 
     - How can you agree with me if you don't know what i think?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:18 PM   #213 
        - Give it up, Ferrari! I see a lot of that around here....  truth2power   Aug-03-10 08:34 PM   #232 
        - Don't really need to counter an argument that is solely about hyperbole...  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 11:38 PM   #266 
           - Hedges is reflecting a growing meta-consensus regarding climate catastrophe  Warren Stupidity   Aug-04-10 07:03 AM   #288 
  - Hedges Reminds me of those street corner prophets  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 02:38 PM   #124 
     - Eventually one of them will be right.  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 03:43 PM   #151 
     - Its all the ones who are wrong we have to cope with  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 03:46 PM   #153 
     - I told you I was right about the collapse in Residential Property Value,  bvar22   Aug-03-10 06:47 PM   #200 
        - Forget using your super-predictive powers on the markets.  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #221 
        - No thanks.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 08:31 PM   #231 
        - I pointed out the systemic instability in the aggregate housing market to my cousin in 2006.  Leftist Agitator   Aug-03-10 08:18 PM   #228 
     - Can you point out something he's been wrong on? Thanks. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #219 
     - Hedges reminds me of Jeremiah "The Weeping Prophet" (and a sign board guy too)  NAO   Aug-04-10 12:42 AM   #273 
  - Stolen Elections - rather a key element to the hijacking.  HCE SuiGeneris   Aug-03-10 02:02 PM   #98 
  - And, you fed the pity party..  Cha   Aug-03-10 02:03 PM   #99 
  - There's always some nut case saying things like this at all times  treestar   Aug-03-10 02:08 PM   #104 
  - That's what the wingnuts said about Al Gore.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:29 PM   #117 
  - Yes. There are.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 03:51 PM   #156 
  - Sky. Falling.  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 02:13 PM   #106 
  - No need to repent  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:20 PM   #111 
  - I fear that he is correct  malaise   Aug-03-10 02:23 PM   #112 
  - Yes, he is right. However,  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:32 PM   #118 
     - What a great website!  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:58 PM   #204 
  - Very true  Stuckinthebush   Aug-03-10 02:25 PM   #113 
  - right again Chris!  katty   Aug-03-10 02:26 PM   #114 
  - Thank you kpete  Jax   Aug-03-10 02:28 PM   #115 
  - Yep, "It's all hijacked." K&R  alsame   Aug-03-10 02:39 PM   #125 
  - What I don't get....  mod mom   Aug-03-10 02:53 PM   #131 
  - It's depressing. We hang onto our myths.  JDPriestly   Aug-03-10 02:54 PM   #133 
  - If elections really changed anything, they'd be illegal.  paparush   Aug-03-10 02:55 PM   #134 
  - When a few people own the pols and the media, elections are irrelevant  havocmom   Aug-03-10 02:59 PM   #135 
     - 1,500,000 Aristocracy  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:06 AM   #294 
  - Hedges is mostly right  whatchamacallit   Aug-03-10 03:03 PM   #136 
  - The Ruling Class has made their decision. Democracy is a fucking SHAM.  Odin2005   Aug-03-10 03:05 PM   #137 
  - He's very close -  TBF   Aug-03-10 03:08 PM   #139 
  - K&R for excellent post & and some interesting discussions afterward. The Hedges  tpsbmam   Aug-03-10 03:13 PM   #140 
  - ...  Scurrilous   Aug-03-10 03:20 PM   #141 
  - He basically restates my similar conclusions  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:35 PM   #144 
  - I agree with everything except...  bvar22   Aug-03-10 03:57 PM   #159 
     - OK Ok, It tastes good to people that don;t know what real food tastes like.  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:51 AM   #279 
  - kpete, I am amazed you, of all people, felt the need to post that disclaimer.  Stinky The Clown   Aug-03-10 03:59 PM   #161 
  - Bullshit  Guy Whitey Corngood   Aug-03-10 04:13 PM   #164 
  - I won't recommend this.  Enthusiast   Aug-03-10 04:17 PM   #165 
  - Can someone fill me in a bit more, though, re-  snot   Aug-03-10 04:37 PM   #170 
  - Perhaps it is because they spend endless hours of time each week prattling on about how bad  truedelphi   Aug-03-10 04:48 PM   #173 
  - They're not "complaining." They're reporting. It's their job. nt  Chef Eric   Aug-03-10 06:31 PM   #195 
     - They're not reporting, they are not reporters. They are opining.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:27 PM   #218 
  - Edit  whatchamacallit   Aug-03-10 04:49 PM   #174 
  - No, nobody can. Because that part of Hedges' rant is BS. nt  Chef Eric   Aug-03-10 05:23 PM   #177 
  - If I had to guess, it would be because they usually don't challenge  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:25 PM   #217 
  - Dear kpete; Thank you for posting this. I'm concerned, though, about your disclaimer..  truth2power   Aug-03-10 04:43 PM   #171 
  - Yeah, I truly believe it is not about whether some individual supports this  truedelphi   Aug-04-10 07:51 PM   #324 
  - The planet will survive...Mankind may not.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-03-10 05:39 PM   #182 
  - And for the sake of the planet, the sooner man dies off the better. n/t  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 07:01 PM   #206 
     - I happen to agree with you 100% on that...  BrklynLiberal   Aug-03-10 08:01 PM   #226 
  - Its a big club and you aint in it!  pokerfan   Aug-03-10 05:54 PM   #185 
  - A good part of the discussion on this thread  DaveT   Aug-03-10 05:55 PM   #186 
  - K&R  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:21 PM   #192 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Aug-03-10 06:37 PM   #196 
  - We can ALL effect change  Canuckistanian   Aug-03-10 06:45 PM   #198 
  - Wow ... we think alike somewhat . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:53 PM   #268 
  - Agreed  LatteLibertine   Aug-05-10 01:57 PM   #335 
  - Some of us have been screaming this message for years.  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 07:04 PM   #207 
  - Kpete, you know, if you want to be fed, you can always eat kittens!  Kurovski   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #220 
  - Almost.  Octafish   Aug-03-10 07:36 PM   #222 
  - Change involves destruction as well as construction.  felix_numinous   Aug-03-10 07:38 PM   #223 
  - Welcome to DU, felix_numinous!  Kurovski   Aug-03-10 08:01 PM   #225 
  - your last two sentences are correct...,welcome  madrchsod   Aug-03-10 08:16 PM   #227 
  - Welcome to DU!  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 08:58 PM   #235 
  - He is right.  deathrind   Aug-03-10 08:19 PM   #230 
  - bullshit. the left ignores the right's most important weapon and then whines it's  certainot   Aug-03-10 08:37 PM   #233 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   Aug-03-10 08:54 PM   #234 
  - Well, not quite all of the printing presses.  immune   Aug-04-10 11:51 AM   #307 
  - K&R  pleah   Aug-03-10 09:14 PM   #241 
  - Control of production and consumption  Goldstein1984   Aug-03-10 09:24 PM   #248 
  - It's urgent to overturn the trade agreements . . . why do we hear so little about that here???  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:54 PM   #269 
     - Instead, more trade agreements are coming:  inna   Aug-04-10 10:25 AM   #304 
     - We need an end to this harmful DLC/New Dem thinking in 2012 ...!!  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 03:36 PM   #312 
     - The economy is two-tiered  Goldstein1984   Aug-04-10 04:23 PM   #318 
  - ***k&r! nt  wildbilln864   Aug-03-10 10:29 PM   #258 
  - He does forget we are not the whole world.  mahina   Aug-03-10 10:30 PM   #259 
  - This is the Truth - When Everyone's Hair Catches Fire, Them Maybe More People Will Care.  theFrankFactor   Aug-03-10 11:18 PM   #264 
  - K&R  Bryn   Aug-03-10 11:25 PM   #265 
  - There certainly was a full steam ahead by DU re Obama . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:48 PM   #267 
  - K&R  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 01:11 AM   #274 
  - I got in trouble for saying what this thread/post proves.  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 03:48 AM   #278 
  - Hey  great white snark   Aug-04-10 04:30 AM   #283 
     - I'll pm you tomorrow to further explain. nt  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 04:34 AM   #284 
  - Agree! We are in a crucial moment, but there is hope! There is a way to win, and  DesertDiamond   Aug-04-10 07:22 AM   #289 
  - -nt  Poboy   Aug-04-10 07:38 AM   #290 
  - Newt Nut on Jobs  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 08:50 AM   #293 
  - Root Causes  Billsmile   Aug-04-10 09:26 AM   #297 
  - Who defines "value" and "worth"?  immune   Aug-04-10 03:31 PM   #311 
  - On behalf of Keith and Rachel, they haven't appeared to me to be  mmonk   Aug-04-10 10:09 AM   #300 
  - Clearly, they are way better than Beck and Co., but just by virtue of working for  inna   Aug-04-10 10:32 AM   #305 
  - Prefer Schultz . . . didn't like Rachel's visit to Afghanistan . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 11:50 AM   #331 
  - The coup d'etat was complete with the SCOTUS 2000 Decision.  WinkyDink   Aug-05-10 02:19 PM   #337 
  - And, IMO, that was set up long before in this way . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 03:01 PM   #339 
  - You left out one thing  Butch350   Aug-05-10 09:22 PM   #342 
     - We are supposed to keep opposing Fascism  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:52 PM   #345 
 

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