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187. A person would have to be downright..
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 06:02 PM by sendero
.. in denial to not see what is going on. They won, it IS that simple.

Why did congress vote to give the failed banks billions in the face of calls 100 to 1 against it? Why are we fighting a pointless war with no real end game that almost nobody thinks we can "win"? Why did we get health care reform and finance reform that were essentially written by industry and lacking in the critical components (public option and glass-stegall respectively) that are required for their success?

There is only one possible answer and you are delusional if you think there is another.
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  -Well, the coup d’etat is over, and they won. (Chris Hedges) kpete  Aug-03-10 09:37 AM   #0 
  - Chris is always a tough read  another saigon   Aug-03-10 09:42 AM   #1 
  - What do you mean by 'tough read'  ThomWV   Aug-03-10 09:46 AM   #5 
     - tough read:  another saigon   Aug-03-10 10:34 AM   #19 
     - I usually have to take more than one swing at his work  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 01:11 PM   #69 
        - I hear you  another saigon   Aug-03-10 01:23 PM   #80 
        - I was thinking the same thing this morning.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:35 PM   #120 
           - Have you read "War is a force that gives us meaning?"  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:32 PM   #143 
           - I don't think there are many "ordinary" people left.  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:46 PM   #199 
              - War is a Force  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:07 AM   #295 
        - I have same reaction to him. He wields truth like a dagger.  dixiegrrrrl   Aug-04-10 06:43 AM   #287 
     - "especially brutal" key phrasing right there n/t  freeplessinseattle   Aug-04-10 01:30 AM   #276 
  - Thank you, and I agree with your disclaimer.  ThomWV   Aug-03-10 09:44 AM   #2 
  - B I N G O  Lost4words   Aug-03-10 09:45 AM   #3 
  - K&R  inna   Aug-03-10 09:46 AM   #4 
  - His message is vital  n2doc   Aug-03-10 09:50 AM   #6 
  - which is how so many people who should have known better voted for Obama.  Winterblues   Aug-03-10 09:50 AM   #7 
  - Which is why I wrote Gore's name in.  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 09:55 AM   #9 
  - Gore was close to winning it all in 08?  Wednesdays   Aug-03-10 01:21 PM   #78 
     - did I say any such thing? I think not.  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #149 
  - maybe Hillary would have  hfojvt   Aug-03-10 10:25 AM   #18 
  - Hillary is DLC -- Nader is a populist --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:05 PM   #237 
     - I wonder if someone like Nader  BonnieJW   Aug-04-10 08:08 AM   #291 
  - different cuts of the same cloth, ultimately ...  Myrina   Aug-03-10 11:27 AM   #29 
  - +1.  SammyWinstonJack   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #30 
  - Sadly, I agree n/t  MissDeeds   Aug-03-10 12:54 PM   #63 
  - actually, your "us v. them" is reptilian thinking just as much part of the same cloth.  KittyWampus   Aug-03-10 12:56 PM   #65 
  - Reptilian. How lovely.  Myrina   Aug-03-10 02:45 PM   #127 
  - reptilian?  inna   Aug-03-10 07:12 PM   #208 
  - the vilest comment of the day, afaic.  inna   Aug-03-10 07:15 PM   #211 
     - then you must not have a basic understanding of the human brain or  KittyWampus   Aug-03-10 09:37 PM   #253 
  - I think there is/was a difference. Obama had the OPPORTUNITY to bring change.  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 01:08 PM   #67 
  - + My household. n/t  truedelphi   Aug-03-10 04:46 PM   #172 
  - Oh, you mean he didn't behave as Bush did...  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 05:09 PM   #175 
  - Analogy fail. I would never promise my children something that I did not intend to deliver.  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 06:50 PM   #201 
  - Ever heard of The Hyde Amendment? eom  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 07:13 PM   #209 
     - Is this yet another "Obama is trapped and can't say so" post?  metapunditedgy   Aug-03-10 07:20 PM   #215 
        - You want him to circumvent the law?  JuniperLea   Aug-03-10 07:24 PM   #216 
  - Oh, cut the crap finally!  snake in the grass   Aug-03-10 07:19 PM   #214 
  - +1,000,000,000  green917   Aug-04-10 01:25 AM   #275 
  - What would you call putting "The Cat Food Commission" in place with executive order?  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:14 PM   #242 
  - Unfortunately, Obama has behaved too much as Bush would have . . . !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:15 PM   #243 
  - Unfortunately he has acted precisely as Bush did or in some cases even worse.  alarimer   Aug-03-10 11:14 PM   #262 
  - he just ran roughshod over the left...  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:11 AM   #270 
  - Correct . . . in the end, Obama has stomped any opportunity for change into the ground ...  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:13 PM   #240 
     - long before obama got here i felt it would come to this.  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:19 AM   #271 
     - i'm with you. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 09:53 AM   #298 
     - Yes . . . the plans for "survival" are well laid out in "Dr. Strangelove" ... or  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:00 PM   #315 
     - That's a *scalpel*, not a *hatchet.* I fear that soon the 2008 presidential debates  metapunditedgy   Aug-04-10 11:30 AM   #306 
        - Not clear on your comment . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:02 PM   #316 
           - It's a reference to one of the presidential debates.  metapunditedgy   Aug-04-10 05:09 PM   #322 
              - Thank you -- my apologies for not getting it -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 08:51 PM   #327 
  - Right -- it's the system that's killing the planet, it won't allow itself to be "changed"  villager   Aug-03-10 01:18 PM   #75 
  - Yes - -"both parties" infected with the corporatism cancer now . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:10 PM   #239 
     - we in Fla have been hearing that Meme since 2000, every time we tried to change the system in Fla  flyarm   Aug-03-10 09:39 PM   #255 
     - Interesting review . . . much of which I didn't know . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:09 PM   #260 
     - In 2008 we were the only state in the nation to Ban DRE's ..and how were we paid back?  flyarm   Aug-04-10 01:59 AM   #277 
        - Thanks . . . as another poster is saying .. don't think many of us know what  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 04:06 PM   #317 
     - Can you please tell me where to go to read about this. I knew something  peacetalksforall   Aug-04-10 08:32 AM   #292 
     - I lived in Ft Laud during that fubar mess  HillbillyBob   Aug-05-10 07:23 PM   #340 
     - WSA WSA WSA  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:11 AM   #296 
        - Interesting overview . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 05:06 PM   #321 
  - You could have just said GI Joe and Barbie  NoSheep   Aug-03-10 12:35 PM   #53 
  - Voted for Obama  havbrush   Aug-03-10 12:48 PM   #57 
  - Just because one was an apparent shit sandwich doesnt take the disgust out of what we got.  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:38 PM   #145 
  - thumbs up  renate   Aug-03-10 06:14 PM   #190 
  - Respond to a poor outcome with the "greater evil" . . . adults can do better than that -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:17 PM   #244 
  - bro, try paragraphs.  tomp   Aug-04-10 12:27 AM   #272 
  - There were more candidates than Obama and the Barbie twins.  MedicalAdmin   Aug-03-10 01:07 PM   #66 
  - the lesser of two evils again?  another saigon   Aug-03-10 01:54 PM   #94 
  - better than the greater of the two evils no?  uponit7771   Aug-03-10 06:29 PM   #194 
  - Maybe you missed Hedges'  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:19 PM   #176 
  - You're arguing against the Obama choice with another false choice . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:03 PM   #236 
  - Sadly, very sadly, I must agree 100%  Joe Fields   Aug-03-10 09:54 AM   #8 
  - It's painful to admit the truth  peace frog   Aug-03-10 06:09 PM   #188 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Aug-03-10 09:57 AM   #10 
  - and thanks  kpete   Aug-03-10 10:05 AM   #13 
  - I remember when Andy Stevens talked about his Kathrine Harris experiences.  midnight   Aug-03-10 10:01 AM   #11 
  - Interesting . . . but . ..  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:18 PM   #245 
  - "Well, the coup d’etat is over, and they won. We lost. And now we have to learn to cope with it."  ProSense   Aug-03-10 10:02 AM   #12 
  - Golly. Palin and anti-science in one DU reply.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 11:17 AM   #25 
  - Well, the paid establishment doesn't like it when people shed light on reality.  TheWatcher   Aug-03-10 11:57 AM   #40 
  - Mebbie reflection, echos in light, could shed more understanding on reality?n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-03-10 02:47 PM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #150 
  - I found this to be very rude.  Moosepoop   Aug-03-10 05:41 PM   #183 
  - Seems you hit a nerve... not one, but TWO deleted responses to your post...  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:53 PM   #202 
  - + 1 million!! right on! eom  flyarm   Aug-03-10 09:30 PM   #250 
  - Don't you get it?  Ignis   Aug-03-10 12:00 PM   #42 
     - Yep. I must really hate democracy.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 02:35 PM   #121 
  - Yes, the damage is done, might as well ignore it and in fact even  obxhead   Aug-03-10 11:39 AM   #35 
  - Buy duct tape.  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:12 PM   #71 
     - I called the doc.  obxhead   Aug-03-10 01:15 PM   #73 
        - I'm not really a doctor, but I play one on DU.  Dr.Phool   Aug-03-10 02:53 PM   #132 
        - SNAP  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 09:09 PM   #238 
  - You again?  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:41 PM   #146 
  - What took you so long to post your canned reply?  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:11 PM   #189 
  - Dude, you need to stop trolling here.  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 04:03 AM   #282 
  - Yes. Finally a truth teller  Doctor_J   Aug-03-10 10:09 AM   #14 
  - Yes, more and more people are waking up.  truedelphi   Aug-04-10 08:49 PM   #326 
  - I heard on NPR yesterday morning that it costs $1.2 million a year for each soldier in Afghanistan  KansDem   Aug-03-10 10:10 AM   #15 
  - Amazing stupidity we're paying for --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:21 PM   #246 
  - "Do the orders still stand?"  Ezlivin   Aug-03-10 10:11 AM   #16 
  - It was believed to be a "stand down" order to military aircraft, according to  Duval   Aug-03-10 05:28 PM   #179 
  - And that's really interesting . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:27 PM   #249 
  - Good reminder -- thanks!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:23 PM   #247 
  - Untrue and stupid.  robcon   Aug-03-10 10:19 AM   #17 
  - True and scary.  Jakes Progress   Aug-03-10 11:19 AM   #26 
  - is blind pessimism and cynicism any better?  Bodhi BloodWave   Aug-05-10 01:20 PM   #333 
  - Mr. robcon, front desk. This is your wednesday wake-up call.  Joe Fields   Aug-04-10 12:09 PM   #308 
  - This is why I have jumped ship basically.  Bonobo   Aug-03-10 10:38 AM   #20 
  - You think civilization is collapsing and you want 4-5% on your liquid assets?  enough   Aug-03-10 11:06 AM   #22 
  - I don't know if it is, or when.  Bonobo   Aug-03-10 11:09 AM   #23 
  - For those who are desperate to stay in the clutches of the Accepted Paradigm, because it's the only  TheWatcher   Aug-03-10 12:03 PM   #43 
  - And, apparently, electricity and wiring for a computer and internet setup.  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 01:34 PM   #85 
     - Well, I'm certainly going to use it while it lasts  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:54 PM   #157 
     - I guess it will be the end of DU. Or maybe we can resort to mirrors and smoke signals. n/t  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 06:55 PM   #203 
  - We "jumped ship" in 2006,  bvar22   Aug-03-10 12:45 PM   #55 
  - We have basically 10% inflation, and you want 4% growth...  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:47 PM   #155 
     - If I could afford it I would invest in usable commodities.  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 06:58 PM   #205 
        - Derelict farms are also good.  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:53 AM   #280 
  - Recommend.  TexasObserver   Aug-03-10 10:39 AM   #21 
  - I was thinking this morning  deutsey   Aug-03-10 11:09 AM   #24 
  - I'm 55. I don't think we'll see the kind of change needed in my life time. Maybe not our children's  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 01:19 PM   #76 
     - Because truth is no longer truth, but just one side of a story.  CLANG   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #101 
     - I'm not happy about it, but I agree  deutsey   Aug-03-10 03:44 PM   #152 
        - I tried leaving after the 2000 selection but was too old to emigrate as a skilled worker.  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 04:22 PM   #166 
           - So it's too late for  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:27 PM   #178 
              - 45 was the upper limit for any place I checked for skilled workers. It was 40 in some places.  laughingliberal   Aug-03-10 05:43 PM   #184 
  - K & R, for this is the truth! n/t  RoccoR5955   Aug-03-10 11:20 AM   #27 
  - Due to Citizens United and hackable electronic voting I also concur with this conclusion.  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Aug-03-10 11:21 AM   #28 
  - Yep. Now what are we going to do? n/t  Beam Me Up   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #31 
  - the only thing that's left for us to do.  keepCAblue   Aug-03-10 12:04 PM   #45 
     - Dumbed down, drugged up and hypnotized by media bait & switch.  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:47 PM   #56 
     - The internet is bringing some common understand -- most of us feel the same way about things --  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:32 PM   #251 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 11:32 AM   #32 
  - The thing about old age...it doesn't last very long  russspeakeasy   Aug-03-10 11:45 AM   #37 
     - When it's good, it's never long enough.....  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 11:57 AM   #41 
  - ... and another BIG WET kiss for the GOP nt  flamingdem   Aug-03-10 11:33 AM   #33 
  - Strongly recommended, with a major caveat  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 11:38 AM   #34 
  - "Such an extreme shift in perception may appear somewhat mystical...."  DeSwiss   Aug-03-10 12:04 PM   #44 
  - Improbable? Perhaps.  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 12:13 PM   #49 
     - Without such a shift...nothing will change.n/t  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:53 PM   #61 
  - Koyaanisquatsi ...that's where we seem to be....  Desertrose   Aug-03-10 12:51 PM   #59 
  - "wholesale revolution in our worldview"  ozone_man   Aug-03-10 01:40 PM   #88 
  - Capitalist problems do not have capitalist solutions  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:41 PM   #147 
  - The Enlightenment would not have happened if Cable "News" and  Doctor_J   Aug-03-10 03:42 PM   #148 
  - Society is too caught up in iPhones, Kindles, and poking each other on Facebook  Roland99   Aug-03-10 11:42 AM   #36 
  - That's why I hang out with nudists....  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 04:02 PM   #162 
  - Sometimes I think the only  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:30 PM   #180 
     - I'm thinking it will more like Stephen King's book, "Cell"  Roland99   Aug-04-10 12:29 PM   #309 
        - I don't read his  femrap   Aug-04-10 08:29 PM   #325 
  - I recently recieved a fundraising "poll" from the Dems  caraher   Aug-03-10 11:47 AM   #38 
  - I'll bet none of those 14 issues were:  bvar22   Aug-03-10 06:39 PM   #197 
     - True  caraher   Aug-04-10 05:38 AM   #286 
  - Kitten hater.  DirkGently   Aug-03-10 11:51 AM   #39 
  - anybody who thinks they can fundamentally change society's structures  northernlights   Aug-03-10 12:07 PM   #46 
  - Great post and great advice!  earth mom   Aug-03-10 02:07 PM   #103 
  - +100  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:37 PM   #122 
  - Exactly. We need to get out of the Gasoline consumption business  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 04:11 PM   #163 
  - Pentagon uses 80% of the oil -- making it a "national security issue" ...  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:38 PM   #254 
     - Personally, I say ban the Oil industry  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:57 AM   #281 
        - Oil industry propaganda -- billions spent over 50 years ... seemingly works...???  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 03:56 PM   #313 
           - Yes, shift to Cocoa Beans like the Oompa Loompas  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 07:04 PM   #323 
  - We need to uninvent the dollar bill -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:11 PM   #261 
  - The Nazis, backed by the Bushes, Rockefeller (Exxon/Chase), Morgan/Dulles WON the Second WORLD War  Liberation Angel   Aug-03-10 12:09 PM   #47 
  - I'm anxiously awaiting your materials - just subscribed to your YouTube channel...  Dennis Donovan   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #168 
  - There is much more to come  Liberation Angel   Aug-03-10 09:36 PM   #252 
  - I subscribed  Nite Owl   Aug-03-10 10:20 PM   #257 
  - Cool - I saw the new subs. THANKS!  Liberation Angel   Aug-04-10 05:00 PM   #319 
  - Same with the '63 coup on our people's government . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:14 PM   #263 
     - Hell FDR wanted to prosecute the Bushes and Rockefellers for backing Nazis  Liberation Angel   Aug-04-10 05:03 PM   #320 
        - I've wondered about that . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 11:50 PM   #328 
           - FDR did not dump Henry Wallace, he was maneuvered out by neocon dems  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 05:33 AM   #329 
              - Whoa . . . sometime I'd like to hear that story . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 11:44 AM   #330 
                 - Here's a link about the questions re: FDR's death (CT, etc.)  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 12:48 PM   #332 
                 - Thanks again - n/t  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 02:18 PM   #336 
                 - One more link  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 01:47 PM   #334 
                    - I'll save the links for another day . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 02:29 PM   #338 
                       - John Loftus says in "Secret War Against the Jews" that FDR wanted to nail the Nazi backers  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:20 PM   #341 
                          - I own that book . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 09:32 PM   #343 
                             - Check out my youtube site: LiberationAngels (link)  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:47 PM   #344 
                                - Ok . . . will check it soon . . saved --  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 10:49 PM   #346 
  - Thanks for feeding me, kpete. I've believed this for a long time. Rec. nt  bertman   Aug-03-10 12:10 PM   #48 
  - "..corporate entities that seek to keep us ignorant and disempowered and stop us from fighting back"  seafan   Aug-03-10 12:14 PM   #50 
  - thank you for posting this, Seafan. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 10:05 AM   #299 
  - Another hearty K&R  Stinky The Clown   Aug-03-10 12:29 PM   #51 
  - There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 12:30 PM   #52 
  - There will be no change until...  bvar22   Aug-03-10 12:49 PM   #58 
  - Hedges Is Full Of Shit  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 12:55 PM   #64 
     - Election 2008 was a crushing defeat for Progressives.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:11 PM   #70 
     - No, it wasn't  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:14 PM   #72 
     - Working to improve the World....  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:37 PM   #87 
     - "the rescue of the automobile industry; (Union Busting)"  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:51 PM   #92 
     - Yay! Blue Links!  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:16 PM   #191 
     - Here's another  ProSense   Aug-03-10 01:17 PM   #74 
     - If Any ONE Election Cycle Can Defeat The American Progressive Movement  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 01:20 PM   #77 
        - "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??!!!"  bvar22   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #102 
     - +1  Gordan Shumway   Aug-03-10 01:56 PM   #96 
     - There is no way to say it better.  azmouse   Aug-03-10 02:06 PM   #100 
     - "cry because major climate change legislation wasn't passed on Jan. 22, 2009"  ProSense   Aug-03-10 02:18 PM   #110 
     - How do you build on the win of Obama when he isn't building anything himself?  earth mom   Aug-03-10 02:48 PM   #130 
     - We tried to form a progressive coalition with Obama  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:47 PM   #154 
     - Do you ever read the many "conservative" FEAR-BASED posts here . . .??  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 09:57 PM   #256 
  - Re:There Is No Way To Prepare for an Environmental Apocalypse  Jonny   Aug-03-10 01:21 PM   #79 
  - When someone points out the futility of changing out regular light bulbs  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:17 PM   #108 
  - Or people who have a nervous...  CoffeeCat   Aug-03-10 01:47 PM   #90 
  - So you think that Americans are fundamentally different human beings than Europeans?  Fumesucker   Aug-03-10 02:44 PM   #126 
  - Americans Are Raised To Be "Whiny Babies"  Yavin4   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #169 
  - Thank you!  centerdem   Aug-03-10 06:25 PM   #193 
  - K&R /nt  Spheric   Aug-03-10 12:37 PM   #54 
  - So....what I take from this is:  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 12:53 PM   #60 
  - Food!? You want food? Do you think it just grows on trees? Don't you know that you are entitled  Greyhound   Aug-03-10 12:54 PM   #62 
  - Reads like a paranoid delusional rant  ConservativeDemocrat   Aug-03-10 01:10 PM   #68 
  - Not surprising considering your screen name.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 01:28 PM   #83 
  - I was thinking the same thing....  femrap   Aug-03-10 05:36 PM   #181 
  - You don't know Chris Hedges from Adam, do you?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:29 PM   #116 
  - God dammit, read some Chomsky and get your mind out of the Establishment manufactured reality.  Odin2005   Aug-03-10 03:08 PM   #138 
  - A person would have to be downright..  sendero   Aug-03-10 05:56 PM   #187 
  - In Fairness to Mr. Hedges...  Steely_Dan   Aug-03-10 01:24 PM   #81 
  - K/R What a fascinating read,  Autumn   Aug-03-10 01:27 PM   #82 
  - I have a hard time believing that a Rhodes scholar dyke who cut her teeth in prison reform...  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 01:30 PM   #84 
  - Rachel haters? LOL, what does hate have to do with this?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 01:50 PM   #91 
     - The article linked to in the original post slammed Rachel Maddow for being part of Teh Ebil Sistim.  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 02:10 PM   #105 
        - And you collapsed that into hatred? Funny. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:15 PM   #107 
           - I used the term "hater" as shorthand. Don't be a nitpicker. n/t  PanoramaIsland   Aug-03-10 02:18 PM   #109 
              - Shorthand for what? People who don't agree with you?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:15 PM   #212 
                 - People who, um, dislike Rachel Maddow for being part of Teh Machine...?  PanoramaIsland   Aug-04-10 02:55 PM   #310 
  - Climate change/global warming  havbrush   Aug-03-10 01:34 PM   #86 
  - don't read Chris Hedges if YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH  NAO   Aug-03-10 01:42 PM   #89 
  - Damn  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:56 PM   #158 
  - fascinating. thanks for posting this. nt  inna   Aug-04-10 10:15 AM   #302 
  - ignore  G_j   Aug-04-10 03:59 PM   #314 
  - Wow! Just....wow!!!  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 01:54 PM   #93 
  - The thing that I don't understand  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:33 PM   #119 
  - There are just some things that cannot and should not be  Skidmore   Aug-03-10 03:21 PM   #142 
     - Hedges was a war enabler? How so?  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 03:59 PM   #160 
     - maybe thinking of Chris Hitchens? nt.  druidity33   Aug-03-10 07:52 PM   #224 
     - That's sounds like a no. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:14 PM   #210 
     - But you did respond.  girl gone mad   Aug-04-10 04:58 AM   #285 
     - what a cop-out... you have no argument  fascisthunter   Aug-04-10 10:17 AM   #303 
  - project much? what an ugly and stupid comment.  inna   Aug-04-10 10:13 AM   #301 
  - Thanks for posting this! I'm not in denial about things, but my mistake is to keep thinking someone  earth mom   Aug-03-10 01:56 PM   #95 
  - Another great Hedges quote:  snot   Aug-03-10 04:36 PM   #167 
     - Powerful statement: "The question is, how do we limit the damage the powerful can do to us?"  midnight   Aug-03-10 08:19 PM   #229 
  - It's all over! Whatever will we do? IDEA! Mass suicide!  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 02:01 PM   #97 
  - So, how is he wrong?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:37 PM   #123 
  - Hey I agree with you.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 02:48 PM   #129 
     - How can you agree with me if you don't know what i think?  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:18 PM   #213 
        - Give it up, Ferrari! I see a lot of that around here....  truth2power   Aug-03-10 08:34 PM   #232 
        - Don't really need to counter an argument that is solely about hyperbole...  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-10 11:38 PM   #266 
           - Hedges is reflecting a growing meta-consensus regarding climate catastrophe  Warren Stupidity   Aug-04-10 07:03 AM   #288 
  - Hedges Reminds me of those street corner prophets  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 02:38 PM   #124 
     - Eventually one of them will be right.  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 03:43 PM   #151 
     - Its all the ones who are wrong we have to cope with  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 03:46 PM   #153 
     - I told you I was right about the collapse in Residential Property Value,  bvar22   Aug-03-10 06:47 PM   #200 
        - Forget using your super-predictive powers on the markets.  MilesColtrane   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #221 
        - No thanks.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 08:31 PM   #231 
        - I pointed out the systemic instability in the aggregate housing market to my cousin in 2006.  Leftist Agitator   Aug-03-10 08:18 PM   #228 
     - Can you point out something he's been wrong on? Thanks. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #219 
     - Hedges reminds me of Jeremiah "The Weeping Prophet" (and a sign board guy too)  NAO   Aug-04-10 12:42 AM   #273 
  - Stolen Elections - rather a key element to the hijacking.  HCE SuiGeneris   Aug-03-10 02:02 PM   #98 
  - And, you fed the pity party..  Cha   Aug-03-10 02:03 PM   #99 
  - There's always some nut case saying things like this at all times  treestar   Aug-03-10 02:08 PM   #104 
  - That's what the wingnuts said about Al Gore.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 02:29 PM   #117 
  - Yes. There are.  bvar22   Aug-03-10 03:51 PM   #156 
  - Sky. Falling.  NeedleCast   Aug-03-10 02:13 PM   #106 
  - No need to repent  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:20 PM   #111 
  - I fear that he is correct  malaise   Aug-03-10 02:23 PM   #112 
  - Yes, he is right. However,  GliderGuider   Aug-03-10 02:32 PM   #118 
     - What a great website!  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 06:58 PM   #204 
  - Very true  Stuckinthebush   Aug-03-10 02:25 PM   #113 
  - right again Chris!  katty   Aug-03-10 02:26 PM   #114 
  - Thank you kpete  Jax   Aug-03-10 02:28 PM   #115 
  - Yep, "It's all hijacked." K&R  alsame   Aug-03-10 02:39 PM   #125 
  - What I don't get....  mod mom   Aug-03-10 02:53 PM   #131 
  - It's depressing. We hang onto our myths.  JDPriestly   Aug-03-10 02:54 PM   #133 
  - If elections really changed anything, they'd be illegal.  paparush   Aug-03-10 02:55 PM   #134 
  - When a few people own the pols and the media, elections are irrelevant  havocmom   Aug-03-10 02:59 PM   #135 
     - 1,500,000 Aristocracy  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 09:06 AM   #294 
  - Hedges is mostly right  whatchamacallit   Aug-03-10 03:03 PM   #136 
  - The Ruling Class has made their decision. Democracy is a fucking SHAM.  Odin2005   Aug-03-10 03:05 PM   #137 
  - He's very close -  TBF   Aug-03-10 03:08 PM   #139 
  - K&R for excellent post & and some interesting discussions afterward. The Hedges  tpsbmam   Aug-03-10 03:13 PM   #140 
  - ...  Scurrilous   Aug-03-10 03:20 PM   #141 
  - He basically restates my similar conclusions  Grinchie   Aug-03-10 03:35 PM   #144 
  - I agree with everything except...  bvar22   Aug-03-10 03:57 PM   #159 
     - OK Ok, It tastes good to people that don;t know what real food tastes like.  Grinchie   Aug-04-10 03:51 AM   #279 
  - kpete, I am amazed you, of all people, felt the need to post that disclaimer.  Stinky The Clown   Aug-03-10 03:59 PM   #161 
  - Bullshit  Guy Whitey Corngood   Aug-03-10 04:13 PM   #164 
  - I won't recommend this.  Enthusiast   Aug-03-10 04:17 PM   #165 
  - Can someone fill me in a bit more, though, re-  snot   Aug-03-10 04:37 PM   #170 
  - Perhaps it is because they spend endless hours of time each week prattling on about how bad  truedelphi   Aug-03-10 04:48 PM   #173 
  - They're not "complaining." They're reporting. It's their job. nt  Chef Eric   Aug-03-10 06:31 PM   #195 
     - They're not reporting, they are not reporters. They are opining.  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:27 PM   #218 
  - Edit  whatchamacallit   Aug-03-10 04:49 PM   #174 
  - No, nobody can. Because that part of Hedges' rant is BS. nt  Chef Eric   Aug-03-10 05:23 PM   #177 
  - If I had to guess, it would be because they usually don't challenge  EFerrari   Aug-03-10 07:25 PM   #217 
  - Dear kpete; Thank you for posting this. I'm concerned, though, about your disclaimer..  truth2power   Aug-03-10 04:43 PM   #171 
  - Yeah, I truly believe it is not about whether some individual supports this  truedelphi   Aug-04-10 07:51 PM   #324 
  - The planet will survive...Mankind may not.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-03-10 05:39 PM   #182 
  - And for the sake of the planet, the sooner man dies off the better. n/t  totodeinhere   Aug-03-10 07:01 PM   #206 
     - I happen to agree with you 100% on that...  BrklynLiberal   Aug-03-10 08:01 PM   #226 
  - It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!  pokerfan   Aug-03-10 05:54 PM   #185 
  - A good part of the discussion on this thread  DaveT   Aug-03-10 05:55 PM   #186 
  - K&R  RetroLounge   Aug-03-10 06:21 PM   #192 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Aug-03-10 06:37 PM   #196 
  - We can ALL effect change  Canuckistanian   Aug-03-10 06:45 PM   #198 
  - Wow ... we think alike somewhat . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:53 PM   #268 
  - Agreed  LatteLibertine   Aug-05-10 01:57 PM   #335 
  - Some of us have been screaming this message for years.  BeHereNow   Aug-03-10 07:04 PM   #207 
  - Kpete, you know, if you want to be fed, you can always eat kittens!  Kurovski   Aug-03-10 07:29 PM   #220 
  - Almost.  Octafish   Aug-03-10 07:36 PM   #222 
  - Change involves destruction as well as construction.  felix_numinous   Aug-03-10 07:38 PM   #223 
  - Welcome to DU, felix_numinous!  Kurovski   Aug-03-10 08:01 PM   #225 
  - your last two sentences are correct...,welcome  madrchsod   Aug-03-10 08:16 PM   #227 
  - Welcome to DU!  XemaSab   Aug-03-10 08:58 PM   #235 
  - He is right.  deathrind   Aug-03-10 08:19 PM   #230 
  - bullshit. the left ignores the right's most important weapon and then whines it's  certainot   Aug-03-10 08:37 PM   #233 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   Aug-03-10 08:54 PM   #234 
  - Well, not quite all of the printing presses.  immune   Aug-04-10 11:51 AM   #307 
  - K&R  pleah   Aug-03-10 09:14 PM   #241 
  - Control of production and consumption  Goldstein1984   Aug-03-10 09:24 PM   #248 
  - It's urgent to overturn the trade agreements . . . why do we hear so little about that here???  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:54 PM   #269 
     - Instead, more trade agreements are coming:  inna   Aug-04-10 10:25 AM   #304 
     - We need an end to this harmful DLC/New Dem thinking in 2012 ...!!  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 03:36 PM   #312 
     - The economy is two-tiered  Goldstein1984   Aug-04-10 04:23 PM   #318 
  - ***k&r! nt  wildbilln864   Aug-03-10 10:29 PM   #258 
  - He does forget we are not the whole world.  mahina   Aug-03-10 10:30 PM   #259 
  - This is the Truth - When Everyone's Hair Catches Fire, Them Maybe More People Will Care.  theFrankFactor   Aug-03-10 11:18 PM   #264 
  - K&R  Bryn   Aug-03-10 11:25 PM   #265 
  - There certainly was a full steam ahead by DU re Obama . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-03-10 11:48 PM   #267 
  - K&R  defendandprotect   Aug-04-10 01:11 AM   #274 
  - I got in trouble for saying what this thread/post proves.  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 03:48 AM   #278 
  - Hey  great white snark   Aug-04-10 04:30 AM   #283 
     - I'll pm you tomorrow to further explain. nt  geek tragedy   Aug-04-10 04:34 AM   #284 
  - Agree! We are in a crucial moment, but there is hope! There is a way to win, and  DesertDiamond   Aug-04-10 07:22 AM   #289 
  - -nt  Poboy   Aug-04-10 07:38 AM   #290 
  - Newt Nut on Jobs  clarence swinney   Aug-04-10 08:50 AM   #293 
  - Root Causes  Billsmile   Aug-04-10 09:26 AM   #297 
  - Who defines "value" and "worth"?  immune   Aug-04-10 03:31 PM   #311 
  - On behalf of Keith and Rachel, they haven't appeared to me to be  mmonk   Aug-04-10 10:09 AM   #300 
  - Clearly, they are way better than Beck and Co., but just by virtue of working for  inna   Aug-04-10 10:32 AM   #305 
  - Prefer Schultz . . . didn't like Rachel's visit to Afghanistan . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 11:50 AM   #331 
  - The coup d'etat was complete with the SCOTUS 2000 Decision.  WinkyDink   Aug-05-10 02:19 PM   #337 
  - And, IMO, that was set up long before in this way . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 03:01 PM   #339 
  - You left out one thing  Butch350   Aug-05-10 09:22 PM   #342 
     - We are supposed to keep opposing Fascism  Liberation Angel   Aug-05-10 09:52 PM   #345 
 

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