OnTheOtherHand
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Tue Aug-03-10 07:58 AM
Response to Reply #146 |
| 150. I mostly agree, but... |
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I don't think one can say that there was no reason to tamper with this contest. DeMint will save some money running against Greene instead of Rawl, and it's an embarrassing sideshow for SC Democrats. Also, hypothetically, a hacker who opposed electronic voting would have an incentive to "obviously" rig an election (trouble being that this election isn't "obviously" rigged, despite sputtering to the contrary).
Some SC Dems would say that they aren't convinced the machines were accurate, but they see no strong evidence that the machines were wrong.
I may be misremembering, but I don't think the investigation really "concluded" that Greene's fee wasn't paid by someone else -- only that it was plausible that Greene paid it himself.
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| -NEW EVIDENCE that Alvin Greene’s “win” in SC was STOLEN! |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 09:45 AM |
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.... |
Beetwasher |
Aug-02-10 09:50 AM |
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not just because it was wrong, but because of how brazen it was and how it has been ignored by msm |
corkhead |
Aug-02-10 10:01 PM |
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Election Stolen |
Action |
Aug-03-10 09:01 AM |
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Names/Values were switched in the code. Has to be the case IMHO. |
mikelgb |
Aug-02-10 09:53 AM |
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OMG, that actually makes perfect sense, that means whoever wrote the program rigged it |
ShadowLiberal |
Aug-02-10 09:08 PM |
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mail absentee results are positively correlated with DRE results |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-02-10 09:59 PM |
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But we've had.... |
daleanime |
Aug-02-10 09:53 AM |
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Wow. What a great country we live in. |
NoSheep |
Aug-02-10 09:53 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-02-10 05:06 PM |
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Oh yea. I forgot I was supposed to be towing the line to appease the lowest common denominator. |
NoSheep |
Aug-02-10 09:56 PM |
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... in a nutshell. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-03-10 06:45 PM |
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Wow, the STRANGEST things pop up when you search yourself. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Aug-04-10 10:17 AM |
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This misses out one impotant question |
dmallind |
Aug-02-10 09:54 AM |
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It would make a big difference because the live vote was manipulated, not the absentee ballots. |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 12:26 PM |
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I don't know either.. |
mdmc |
Aug-02-10 04:55 PM |
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HAVA In Our Family We Call It .. |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 05:13 PM |
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It's the essential question when examining this line of reasoning |
customerserviceguy |
Aug-03-10 06:16 AM |
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maybe, but be careful |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-10 07:34 AM |
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That's a point I hadn't considered |
customerserviceguy |
Aug-04-10 06:17 AM |
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oh, I don't know about that |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-04-10 09:36 PM |
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Again, you've made a good point |
customerserviceguy |
Aug-05-10 10:23 PM |
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Those discrepancies are truly astounding, but what will be done? |
ThomWV |
Aug-02-10 09:56 AM |
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Well McMasters SC AG refuses to investigate |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 09:59 AM |
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If our recent history of voter fraud |
dotymed |
Aug-03-10 08:16 AM |
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Wait a second...if it's truly "two parties, one master" |
Wednesdays |
Aug-03-10 09:03 AM |
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+1 n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-10 10:44 AM |
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This was obvious right after the election. |
Webster Green |
Aug-02-10 09:58 AM |
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DING DING DING your last sentence says it ALL. You win this thread. |
elehhhhna |
Aug-02-10 05:25 PM |
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I agree |
bobburgster |
Aug-03-10 04:52 AM |
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And the media let the story die |
blaze |
Aug-02-10 09:58 AM |
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We need to get it back in the media some how nobody here in SC media seems to care |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 10:02 AM |
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what's worse is that some media tried to hold him up as some |
Blue_Tires |
Aug-02-10 10:51 AM |
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There was link of a Fux News Reporter |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 10:55 AM |
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More like a 10 second tongue bite. The dude is pathetic! |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 12:28 PM |
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trial run?? |
shanti |
Aug-02-10 03:14 PM |
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Greene is an idiot who didn't even campaign or raise any money or have fund raisings |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-10 10:25 PM |
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That this is a repub fix is blatantly obvious.They got the opponent they knew they could beat easily |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-10 10:26 PM |
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If Greene gave a shit about dems in his state he'd quit because he knows he's a sure loser. |
bjobotts |
Aug-02-10 10:27 PM |
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Pretty obvious case of fraud... |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-02-10 09:59 AM |
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Aug-02-10 03:29 PM |
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changed my mind this doesnt deserve a response |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 03:35 PM |
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Wow, it's like you're a mindreader or something. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-02-10 03:46 PM |
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Don't have to be. Just read the RACIST threads on Alvin Green! |
whistler162 |
Aug-03-10 06:11 AM |
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Not one of those threads is racist |
LostinVA |
Aug-03-10 07:39 AM |
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Calling another poster a racist is against DU rules |
LostinVA |
Aug-02-10 04:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-03-10 06:12 AM |
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So, you get the message deleted doing that and do it again? |
LostinVA |
Aug-03-10 07:37 AM |
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Why can't we get a safe clean, verifiable way of electing people? |
Poboy |
Aug-02-10 09:59 AM |
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follow the money |
shanti |
Aug-02-10 03:15 PM |
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The corporations owning the election machines are intimately linked with the corporations running |
glitch |
Aug-02-10 04:43 PM |
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I hate to be cynical, but the Dem Party in SC doesn't give a damn. |
Stevepol |
Aug-02-10 10:00 AM |
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sad but probably true nt |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 10:05 AM |
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Yep |
blindpig |
Aug-02-10 03:42 PM |
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The Dem party in SC are the Washington Generals coached by Alan Colmes |
mitchum |
Aug-02-10 06:30 PM |
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Do not limit your opinion to SC |
russspeakeasy |
Aug-02-10 08:15 PM |
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Why would all those people who claim to love Jesus risk hell? |
Kurovski |
Aug-02-10 08:46 PM |
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Who would do this and WHY? |
Indydem |
Aug-02-10 10:04 AM |
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Justy testing the waters - a shot across the bow to see if it would cause a rucus. |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-02-10 10:09 AM |
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I agree |
Renew Deal |
Aug-02-10 10:12 AM |
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It's a huge deal, I wish the Dems would act to banish the machines. |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-02-10 10:18 AM |
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A paper trail would accomplish nothing. |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 12:35 PM |
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An individual presumably could look at the receipt |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 03:07 PM |
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And what will prevent the machine from lying opn the receipt? |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 03:15 PM |
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You go to ATM, you ask for 200 $, you get 200 $, you get a |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 03:17 PM |
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a computer can be programmed to write out the correct vote |
demigoddess |
Aug-02-10 07:01 PM |
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That analogy doesn't fit the situation. |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 10:28 PM |
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So, the machine prints a receipt for your vote for Obama. |
Wednesdays |
Aug-03-10 09:11 AM |
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it has to be a paper trail that the voter can't walk off with |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-10 10:56 AM |
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Agreed! Much more of this to come! |
glinda |
Aug-02-10 02:24 PM |
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Ding ding ding! Trial run in a small election to gauge results and areas that need fine tuning. nt |
Parker CA |
Aug-02-10 03:51 PM |
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The goal may have been to make the Democratic Party look |
hedgehog |
Aug-02-10 10:21 AM |
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why does anybody do anything? because they can... |
Blue_Tires |
Aug-02-10 10:52 AM |
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Republicans had plenty of motivation to interfere with the Democratic Primary. |
Chef Eric |
Aug-02-10 05:16 PM |
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Yes they were testing the waters. |
zeemike |
Aug-02-10 06:15 PM |
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See my post # 131 below... |
WheelWalker |
Aug-02-10 11:15 PM |
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DeMint does not have a great approval rating |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-03-10 08:18 AM |
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Why would an unemployed guy pay a 10 grand filing fee to get into the race to begin with? |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-02-10 10:06 AM |
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More to the point, how did he pay it? |
KamaAina |
Aug-02-10 11:24 AM |
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I would love a more thorough investigation of that too |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 12:12 PM |
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This has already been investigated |
geek_sabre |
Aug-02-10 02:49 PM |
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Not Really |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 02:51 PM |
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the huffpo article i linked |
geek_sabre |
Aug-02-10 04:32 PM |
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Maybe they didn't need a subpoena |
Shrek |
Aug-02-10 05:44 PM |
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Paid for by the taxpayers? |
hughee99 |
Aug-02-10 05:53 PM |
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...and unemployment is an insurance payment. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Aug-03-10 05:10 AM |
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Even if he had that much money, why did he do it? |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 03:15 PM |
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it's almost |
shanti |
Aug-02-10 03:19 PM |
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Action Figures was the most out there jobs proposal I have ever heard |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 03:24 PM |
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Wearing his army uniform, no less. |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 03:27 PM |
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G.I. Alvin |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 03:44 PM |
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Them southern crackers........ |
howmad1 |
Aug-02-10 06:51 PM |
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The machines are corrupted - we will have no democracy until we get rid of these machines. nt |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-02-10 10:07 AM |
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How did Greene get 45% of the mail in paper ballots? |
Renew Deal |
Aug-02-10 10:11 AM |
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he got it because we can go in person early to vote absentee |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 10:15 AM |
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WTF? |
Blue Owl |
Aug-02-10 10:16 AM |
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BULLSHIT! HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT????? We need to have a bipartisan discussion of this. |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-02-10 10:19 AM |
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Brad Blog About SC Dems decision |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 10:37 AM |
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K&R |
Kurovski |
Aug-02-10 12:17 PM |
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Is it because |
JonLP24 |
Aug-02-10 12:18 PM |
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I think your'e right on the money Jon n/t |
Ellipsis |
Aug-02-10 07:30 PM |
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. |
Ellipsis |
Aug-02-10 07:37 PM |
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Also, South Carolina has open primaries. |
sofa king |
Aug-02-10 11:09 PM |
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Our "freedoms" seem to be disappearing faster than clean water in the Gulf. |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Aug-02-10 12:20 PM |
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just like |
femrap |
Aug-02-10 12:24 PM |
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Doesn't give me a warm fuzzy for the 2010 midterms. |
CLANG |
Aug-02-10 12:25 PM |
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Sounds like Alvin Greene got a lot of absentee votes. Makes you wonder about the voters...nt |
thereismore |
Aug-02-10 01:08 PM |
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On the on the Electronic Absentee Ballots Paper Ballots he did dismal at best |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 02:10 PM |
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OK thanks. Bloody paper. nt |
thereismore |
Aug-02-10 03:12 PM |
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Absentee ballots almost always favor the endorsed party candidate. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 02:33 PM |
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Sorry Not that much of swing is Expected especially when |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 02:41 PM |
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I've seen it in several elections that use paper ballots. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 03:02 PM |
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Still, it's rather obvious these kind of results are extremely unusual, |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 03:09 PM |
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It's pretty typical for what I see in other elections. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 03:31 PM |
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Al Green |
onpatrol98 |
Aug-03-10 04:05 AM |
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I might agree if it were not for other strange events |
rbrnmw |
Aug-03-10 11:39 AM |
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AND THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. |
spanone |
Aug-02-10 02:41 PM |
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cuz the "Democrats" have done zip |
upi402 |
Aug-02-10 02:43 PM |
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Warning May Cause Blood Pressure Spike and Nausea |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 02:50 PM |
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5 hour computer expert testimony refuted Greene's "election" |
upi402 |
Aug-02-10 02:56 PM |
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kind of like they are part of the problem |
shanti |
Aug-02-10 03:21 PM |
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not one so called "liberal" media person will |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 02:46 PM |
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You're right. The inept MSM doesn't care about facts. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Aug-02-10 03:02 PM |
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Maybe we can get Honduras to oversee our elections. Or even Afghanistan. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Aug-02-10 02:58 PM |
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you read my mind |
kag |
Aug-02-10 05:20 PM |
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Purple finger voting would be even better than rigged electronic machines. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Aug-02-10 06:35 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-02-10 03:04 PM |
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They see no need to hide the corruption. They know that this administration will continue in its |
Greyhound |
Aug-02-10 03:13 PM |
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We can't look backward! Rahm and the DLC says look forward! Saboteurs. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-02-10 05:38 PM |
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Witness Testimony Presented at Vic Rawl Contest Hearing MUST READ |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 04:07 PM |
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People who bother to vote absentee care |
Recursion |
Aug-02-10 04:22 PM |
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this post is against the rules |
tiny elvis |
Aug-02-10 04:26 PM |
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more |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Aug-02-10 04:29 PM |
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This has beeen refuted long ago. n/t |
Ellipsis |
Aug-02-10 07:28 PM |
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Unverifiable electronic voting turns us into sheep. This is gross beyond belief. |
Spheric |
Aug-02-10 04:44 PM |
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I Totally Agree nt |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 04:47 PM |
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It was obvious |
awnobles |
Aug-02-10 04:49 PM |
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Like I pointed out in another thread |
DFW |
Aug-02-10 04:52 PM |
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We need to get behind our Democratic candidate |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Aug-02-10 04:53 PM |
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Is this just a weird coincidence? [Dons tin-foil hat] |
Hosnon |
Aug-02-10 05:44 PM |
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beyond sick |
rbrnmw |
Aug-02-10 05:55 PM |
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The article has both spelllings of the name. |
LisaL |
Aug-02-10 06:07 PM |
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good thing that dems have worked tirelessly to ensure that election fraud is impossible.. |
frylock |
Aug-02-10 06:13 PM |
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oh! Gee! I am so surprised! NOT! |
demigoddess |
Aug-02-10 06:56 PM |
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Sorry Kids... this dog don't hunt. |
Ellipsis |
Aug-02-10 07:39 PM |
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*blush* |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-02-10 09:44 PM |
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I'd like to see some actual numbers |
hfojvt |
Aug-02-10 07:43 PM |
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you can download them from the voterga.org website |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-02-10 09:52 PM |
#119 |
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Electronic voting theft evidence is not valued in this country unfortunately. |
valerief |
Aug-02-10 09:07 PM |
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Paper ballots, hand counted. nt |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Aug-02-10 09:34 PM |
#116 |
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Do you really think the media will touch this |
Botany |
Aug-02-10 09:48 PM |
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Yeah 60% to 40% |
rbrnmw |
Aug-03-10 07:02 AM |
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it isn't impossible at all |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-10 07:23 AM |
#145 |
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COuld anyone tell me why somebody would need to run against him to win in SC? |
Dark |
Aug-02-10 10:06 PM |
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"what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how" |
Strelnikov_ |
Aug-02-10 10:41 PM |
#128 |
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what now my love? I think we need to vote via official web registration and have our own copy. |
earcandle |
Aug-02-10 10:53 PM |
#129 |
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My money is on Julian Assange and Wikileaks...Get ready for a release |
WheelWalker |
Aug-02-10 11:14 PM |
#131 |
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THIS IS THE REPUBLICANS.... |
orbitalman |
Aug-02-10 11:43 PM |
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From all the reports he will be the official candidate, so when I say Alvin you say Greene no,,, ok. |
ProgressOnTheMove |
Aug-03-10 02:49 AM |
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The heartless over |
Turbineguy |
Aug-03-10 05:20 AM |
#138 |
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You know what's weird, it's not like DeMint would be losing this election. |
LynneSin |
Aug-03-10 06:42 AM |
#142 |
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Maybe but maybe not SC is sick of being embarrased |
rbrnmw |
Aug-03-10 07:13 AM |
#144 |
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This just means the absentee voters... |
Imajika |
Aug-03-10 07:28 AM |
#146 |
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I mostly agree, but... |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-03-10 07:58 AM |
#150 |
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That right they did not dig deep |
rbrnmw |
Aug-03-10 09:07 AM |
#155 |
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It is not like |
mercuryblues |
Aug-03-10 09:10 AM |
#156 |
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