| 60. I'll believe it if it happens |
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I'm pretty sure this will be another thread I will bookmark and possibly have to pull up in a few years when it doesn't happen. Just like the hand-wringing done when we were going to attack Iran in 2004 among oh so many others.
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| -William Greider: President Obama Is Leading The Assault on Social Security |
Better Believe It |
Aug-01-10 09:10 PM |
#0 |
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The Nation magazine never really loved him. |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-10 09:12 PM |
#1 |
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Come on... |
sendero |
Aug-01-10 09:39 PM |
#20 |
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Judging by Bluebear's icon, I'm pretty sure that Bluebear is being sarcastically sensible. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-01-10 11:21 PM |
#30 |
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And pragmatically sarcastic :) |
Bluebear |
Aug-01-10 11:26 PM |
#32 |
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Oh yes, we need sarcasm and negative insinuations in anything Obama. |
bobburgster |
Aug-02-10 02:59 PM |
#169 |
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No, we need people to tell everyone that everythign negative is a LIE!!!!1 |
Bluebear |
Aug-02-10 03:36 PM |
#177 |
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Great response! |
bobburgster |
Aug-02-10 05:18 PM |
#200 |
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LOL |
Bluebear |
Aug-02-10 06:54 PM |
#208 |
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Why are you so mean to Him? |
QC |
Aug-02-10 08:44 PM |
#214 |
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I just wanted President Palin! |
Bluebear |
Aug-02-10 09:23 PM |
#220 |
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Sorry I missed... |
sendero |
Aug-02-10 06:44 AM |
#64 |
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What did they want, President Palin??? |
LostinVA |
Aug-02-10 07:35 AM |
#69 |
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No I think that the staff at the Nation realizes that for the most part |
truedelphi |
Aug-02-10 02:49 PM |
#168 |
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+1000 |
DeSwiss |
Aug-02-10 05:32 PM |
#203 |
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Jerry should just have an eight second ad that goes |
paulkienitz |
Aug-02-10 06:37 PM |
#206 |
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I love your sound byte! |
truedelphi |
Aug-02-10 06:44 PM |
#207 |
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I'm beginning to think that ad would actually be a good idea. |
paulkienitz |
Aug-04-10 01:53 PM |
#241 |
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I couldn't agree more with you opening statement |
Larry Ogg |
Aug-04-10 07:24 PM |
#244 |
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They never loved Al Gore either. They supported nader. See how THAT |
Kahuna |
Aug-02-10 11:05 AM |
#128 |
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The Nation is RALPH NADER! |
EFerrari |
Aug-02-10 12:07 PM |
#140 |
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Oh, no, the rolly eyes of magazine blame lol |
Bluebear |
Aug-02-10 12:37 PM |
#148 |
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Gore won, so it would have worked out fine, if the SC |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-03-10 03:46 PM |
#235 |
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I dont fucking like him either |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-02-10 04:12 PM |
#185 |
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Obama has disappointed me in a number of ways |
Jackpine Radical |
Aug-03-10 02:40 PM |
#234 |
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Clinton led the assault on welfare and fair trade- so I'm not sure anyone would be surprised |
depakid |
Aug-01-10 09:15 PM |
#2 |
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Perhaps, but they would have liked to love him if they could. |
enough |
Aug-01-10 09:16 PM |
#3 |
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just sent Barrack a tweet |
704wipes |
Aug-01-10 09:19 PM |
#4 |
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We need a pamphlet we can all download, print up and distribute everywhere. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-01-10 09:21 PM |
#5 |
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Good idea! Send them your suggestion and maybe some ideas on what should be in it! |
Better Believe It |
Aug-01-10 09:31 PM |
#12 |
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I think they have enough ideas already. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-01-10 09:43 PM |
#22 |
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But I like yours! A basic, to the point bi-lingual flyer or pamphlet for mass distribution. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-01-10 09:56 PM |
#25 |
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Here's some facts |
alberg |
Aug-02-10 09:38 AM |
#85 |
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Posted it in my facebook page last week. |
xxqqqzme |
Aug-02-10 12:06 PM |
#139 |
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But but but but -- Social Security is an expensive entitlement program that will raise the deficit! |
breadandwine |
Aug-02-10 02:46 PM |
#167 |
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I like this, short and to the point. |
bobburgster |
Aug-02-10 03:24 PM |
#175 |
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Look here for starters. |
sulphurdunn |
Aug-02-10 03:52 PM |
#179 |
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Thanks....I appreciate your help. |
bobburgster |
Aug-02-10 05:23 PM |
#201 |
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Thanks for the links!n/t |
Duval |
Aug-02-10 05:25 PM |
#202 |
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Someone on DU did something similar when Bush was in office. |
CrispyQ |
Aug-02-10 01:52 PM |
#155 |
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He is blatently lying when he calls what Clinton wanted to do partial privatization |
dsc |
Aug-01-10 09:22 PM |
#6 |
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That would have been terrible! I don't want any of our SS money invested in the stock market. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-01-10 09:25 PM |
#7 |
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Ditto - Do that, and no matter what Wall Street says, they do a little bingo, bango, bongo on |
closeupready |
Aug-02-10 01:57 PM |
#156 |
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How is putting tax dollars in the WS casino NOT privatization? |
laughingliberal |
Aug-01-10 09:29 PM |
#10 |
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No it isn't |
dsc |
Aug-01-10 09:37 PM |
#18 |
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It is handing tax dollars over to private business. And it's a disaster. nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-01-10 09:44 PM |
#24 |
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it is *too* privatization. wtf do you think privatization means? |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 02:57 AM |
#44 |
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it is defined benefit, as opposed to defined contrabution |
dsc |
Aug-02-10 03:18 AM |
#52 |
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not if they want to steal it |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 03:26 AM |
#53 |
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My husband's pension had 15% go up Madoff's ass. |
eilen |
Aug-02-10 07:50 AM |
#71 |
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one of the drawbacks of privatized pensions. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 07:51 PM |
#209 |
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No "difference" when the funds can be LOST . . . which is what privatization is!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:26 AM |
#104 |
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Actually, Hannah Bell, a portion of the Social Security taxes |
JDPriestly |
Aug-02-10 12:54 PM |
#150 |
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Who gives a fuck what the bible says? Fairy tales should not be the basis for social policy. |
Zhade |
Aug-06-10 08:20 PM |
#249 |
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Remember Enron and CA investments? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:25 AM |
#103 |
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This is the ENRONing of Social Security. For sure. |
earth mom |
Aug-02-10 02:26 PM |
#163 |
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"Faith-based" Social Security . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-10 11:15 PM |
#240 |
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Yes, that's privatization. Face up to the truth. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-01-10 09:33 PM |
#13 |
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No it isn't |
dsc |
Aug-01-10 09:38 PM |
#19 |
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no, privatization is taking money out of people's checks and then telling them they now have a |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 03:05 AM |
#45 |
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so the government giving our SS to business is THEFT by taking |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-02-10 06:29 AM |
#62 |
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You see how effectively language creates thoughts/beliefs. We've been told 'privatize' |
Greyhound |
Aug-02-10 12:26 PM |
#145 |
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"We've been told 'privatize' so often for so long that we've effectively confused it with theft." |
CrispyQ |
Aug-02-10 01:58 PM |
#157 |
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I remined ever rpuke i know that brings up privatization |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-02-10 04:23 PM |
#187 |
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Private investment is privatization. |
kenfrequed |
Aug-02-10 10:08 AM |
#93 |
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Chelsea's new job, of course! |
Greyhound |
Aug-02-10 04:30 PM |
#190 |
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I have a 401(K). It's really hard to make investment decisions |
JDPriestly |
Aug-02-10 01:07 PM |
#151 |
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'That's all it is'. Bingo, Bango, Bongo - we have a winner here, folks. |
closeupready |
Aug-02-10 02:01 PM |
#158 |
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If you hand over public funds to private enitise what might it be called then? |
Uncle_Gunnysack |
Aug-01-10 11:39 PM |
#34 |
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Sharon Angle says it's 'personalizing' SS. Perhaps the poster agrees with her. nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-02-10 01:21 AM |
#40 |
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"personalizing". well, that's sounds all nice & fluffy, doesn't it. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 03:08 AM |
#47 |
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Yes, they've been searching for a new way to frame it |
Lasher |
Aug-02-10 04:23 PM |
#188 |
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No the poster doesn't |
dsc |
Aug-02-10 03:17 AM |
#51 |
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You are aware that many state and public employee plans are having problems now with so much ... |
laughingliberal |
Aug-02-10 03:02 PM |
#171 |
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You never answered my question. That's unsportsmanlike. |
Uncle_Gunnysack |
Aug-02-10 07:55 PM |
#210 |
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Psssttt...yer blowing her cover. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-02-10 04:01 PM |
#182 |
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Too many Democrats call it "public education." nt |
LWolf |
Aug-04-10 07:31 PM |
#245 |
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And what a fiasco that would have been -- SS $$ in Wall Street -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:18 AM |
#97 |
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Bush wanted to do that also. Imagine if they had succeeded |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-03-10 03:53 PM |
#236 |
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I hope the coalition is poised to raise money and run ads about this. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-01-10 09:26 PM |
#8 |
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Oh puh-leeze! Obama ran on a pledge to end Social Security |
gratuitous |
Aug-01-10 09:28 PM |
#9 |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-01-10 09:29 PM |
#11 |
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That's right. We just want our Social Security pony. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-01-10 09:34 PM |
#14 |
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Candidate Obama did not run on a pledge to dismantle Social Security |
Better Believe It |
Aug-01-10 09:36 PM |
#17 |
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legit lols |
d_b |
Aug-02-10 03:15 AM |
#50 |
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Sorry, that's really dumb |
treestar |
Aug-02-10 08:47 AM |
#78 |
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Only to those without eyes to see, lol. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-02-10 10:50 AM |
#118 |
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Its not pragmatic or sensible to have eyes. |
bvar22 |
Aug-02-10 02:20 PM |
#161 |
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Brain cells, either. nt |
LWolf |
Aug-02-10 03:50 PM |
#178 |
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lol - yeah, right? |
closeupready |
Aug-02-10 02:01 PM |
#159 |
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rofl |
LostinVA |
Aug-02-10 03:16 PM |
#174 |
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heheh |
SammyWinstonJack |
Aug-02-10 04:10 PM |
#184 |
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:) |
Bluebear |
Aug-06-10 06:53 PM |
#248 |
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Translation: WE be F~~ked no matter who is in office. |
BeHereNow |
Aug-01-10 09:35 PM |
#15 |
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The powers that be won't be happy until we're all eating cat food and living under bridges. nt |
earth mom |
Aug-02-10 02:28 PM |
#164 |
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LOL! |
PBS Poll-435 |
Aug-01-10 09:36 PM |
#16 |
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I know where I'm starting. Harry Reid is kicking Angle butt over wanting to destroy SS |
laughingliberal |
Aug-01-10 09:40 PM |
#21 |
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Good suggestion. nt |
Enthusiast |
Aug-02-10 05:29 AM |
#59 |
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William Greider is a liar! The facts are LIES! |
JanMichael |
Aug-01-10 09:43 PM |
#23 |
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"everything has to be on the table." |
Kermitt Gribble |
Aug-01-10 10:39 PM |
#26 |
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Agree -- Obama's re-election in 2012 has to be "ON THE TABLE" . . .!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:29 AM |
#105 |
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I thought the same thing. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Aug-02-10 12:01 PM |
#137 |
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We went downhill with Clinton, though we had an economy . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-10 12:02 AM |
#223 |
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I wish this post had been up last night |
lbrtbell |
Aug-01-10 11:06 PM |
#27 |
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Exactly right - |
TBF |
Aug-02-10 07:50 AM |
#72 |
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This NEWS has gotten out very slowly . . . dump the MIC, keep Social Security--!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:31 AM |
#107 |
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K & R |
Petrushka |
Aug-01-10 11:18 PM |
#28 |
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I used to worry a great deal about whatever proposal the Catfood Commission comes up with. |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-01-10 11:18 PM |
#29 |
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they're going to vote on it in lame duck session during the christmas holidays. |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 03:07 AM |
#46 |
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And they cannot change or amend the proposal in any way |
GOTV |
Aug-02-10 11:11 AM |
#130 |
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One term Obama |
Hawkowl |
Aug-01-10 11:22 PM |
#31 |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-02-10 08:00 AM |
#73 |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-02-10 10:32 AM |
#109 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-02-10 11:54 AM |
#136 |
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Funny...but so sad |
bluethruandthru |
Aug-02-10 12:22 PM |
#143 |
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i'm pretty sure re-election is not his highest priority. |
tomp |
Aug-02-10 10:08 AM |
#92 |
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That is well phrased |
Hawkowl |
Aug-02-10 10:21 AM |
#102 |
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Completely agree with you -- Obama/DLC agenda is to serve the rich . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:33 AM |
#110 |
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He once said he didn't worry about being a one term president |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-10 12:34 PM |
#146 |
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He won't be one-term unless |
Jakes Progress |
Aug-02-10 03:25 PM |
#176 |
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True, every word. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Aug-02-10 04:19 PM |
#186 |
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damn..damn..damn..i know it as well..heartbreaking but true..nt |
xiamiam |
Aug-04-10 02:26 PM |
#242 |
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Catfood |
Octafish |
Aug-01-10 11:29 PM |
#33 |
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Gotta say.... |
blindpig |
Aug-02-10 11:39 AM |
#132 |
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Are these the same insiders who said Obama would give up on HCR? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-01-10 11:54 PM |
#35 |
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i agree. nt |
DesertFlower |
Aug-02-10 12:25 AM |
#36 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-02-10 12:25 AM |
#37 |
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I learned something about the media during the lead up to the Iraq war. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 01:07 AM |
#38 |
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Should we believe the co-chair of the Cat Food Commision himself? |
Spheric |
Aug-02-10 03:11 AM |
#48 |
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"That's Bullshit." That's what he said about the rumors. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 03:37 AM |
#54 |
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Let me see if I understand you. |
Spheric |
Aug-02-10 03:57 AM |
#55 |
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No, you don't understand me. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-02-10 04:20 AM |
#56 |
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This is not just some commission making recommendations. |
Spheric |
Aug-02-10 05:10 AM |
#58 |
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It is not fast tracked for a vote in the Senate. |
Lasher |
Aug-03-10 01:31 AM |
#226 |
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Thank you for clarifying. |
Spheric |
Aug-03-10 09:56 AM |
#232 |
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That's OK, somebody else here did the same for me not too long ago. |
Lasher |
Aug-03-10 03:58 PM |
#237 |
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You understand him well. |
Jim Sagle |
Aug-03-10 02:01 AM |
#227 |
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No. Just the ones who said he'd sell out the public option. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-02-10 01:18 AM |
#39 |
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+1000 |
harun |
Aug-02-10 09:05 AM |
#79 |
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1000% -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:36 AM |
#112 |
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you already know what he is going to do although it is hard to admit |
xiamiam |
Aug-04-10 02:29 PM |
#243 |
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He did give up on HCR. He made in an Insurance profiteering scheme instead. nt |
Lorien |
Aug-02-10 02:27 AM |
#41 |
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+1 Exactly. /nt |
Spheric |
Aug-02-10 03:12 AM |
#49 |
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If it's as bad as the Health Insurance Industry and Big Pharma Protection Act we are in big trouble. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-02-10 08:24 AM |
#74 |
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In case you didn't notice --- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Aug-02-10 10:18 AM |
#98 |
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precisely. thanks for making that point. |
inna |
Aug-03-10 08:37 AM |
#231 |
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Probably the same insiders... |
kenfrequed |
Aug-02-10 10:20 AM |
#100 |
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How they handle your last two questions will be telling. |
CrispyQ |
Aug-02-10 02:06 PM |
#160 |
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Actually, Obama took HCR and stomped it into the ground . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:34 AM |
#111 |
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Just because he calls the insurance bailout HCR |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-10 12:36 PM |
#147 |
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Greider under the bus! |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 02:54 AM |
#42 |
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It took a Republican to go to China. |
JoseGaspar |
Aug-02-10 02:54 AM |
#43 |
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Yep, so tiring and transparent- |
Poboy |
Aug-02-10 09:41 AM |
#86 |
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Social Security is running a surplus. |
burnsei sensei |
Aug-02-10 04:46 AM |
#57 |
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I'll believe it if it happens |
OKNancy |
Aug-02-10 05:44 AM |
#60 |
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And if you sit around and do nothing to stop it, what will you write when it happens? |
Better Believe It |
Aug-02-10 08:27 AM |
#75 |
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Governor Ed Rendell made it |
Enthusiast |
Aug-02-10 06:07 AM |
#61 |
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Calling Social Security an "entitlement" is another bit of rw propaganda . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:39 AM |
#113 |
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Of course it is. |
Enthusiast |
Aug-02-10 12:08 PM |
#141 |
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Thing that really irks me is that Seniors aren't UNITED in any way . . . excluding AARP - |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 04:25 PM |
#189 |
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We have to pound the same pavement. |
Enthusiast |
Aug-03-10 02:12 AM |
#228 |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Aug-02-10 06:43 AM |
#63 |
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William Greider never really loved him! |
QC |
Aug-02-10 06:46 AM |
#65 |
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That makes me want to cry...literally. |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-02-10 07:05 AM |
#66 |
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Thanks for posting this article. |
fasttense |
Aug-02-10 07:18 AM |
#67 |
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Erskine "Free Trade - I Heart NAFTA" Bowles makes me sick. |
paparush |
Aug-02-10 07:33 AM |
#68 |
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Kinda makes a person wonder why this person would have been appointed to such a position |
depakid |
Aug-02-10 10:00 AM |
#88 |
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Guess Obama would be surprised to find FOXES in charge of the chicken coop???? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:40 AM |
#114 |
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As a North Carolinian, Bowles makes me furious. |
paparush |
Aug-03-10 08:05 AM |
#229 |
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This used to be |
90-percent |
Aug-02-10 07:36 AM |
#70 |
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That's it - I'm done! Fuck Obama and the rest of his corporatists. He's lost me forever. |
williesgirl |
Aug-02-10 08:45 AM |
#76 |
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PLEASE . . . unite with other liberals/progressives and let's do something ... don't give up!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:41 AM |
#115 |
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what this the 20th or 30th time you have "given" up? |
whistler162 |
Aug-02-10 03:55 PM |
#180 |
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Aug-02-10 08:46 AM |
#77 |
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+1000% -- "let's cut Jesus's social security to pay for war" -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:42 AM |
#116 |
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I would stop participating in anything that smells like a Social Security replacement program NOW. |
earcandle |
Aug-02-10 09:06 AM |
#80 |
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Also, read the news with a critical eye. This are lying fucks out to undermine our trust in our own |
earcandle |
Aug-02-10 09:08 AM |
#81 |
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Critical Eye |
90-percent |
Aug-02-10 09:18 AM |
#83 |
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There's not a single, solid fact in this article to support the author's assertion. |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 09:15 AM |
#82 |
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There are tons of facts listed throughout the thread |
depakid |
Aug-02-10 10:02 AM |
#89 |
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I see lots of snark and wild-eyed speculation and no facts to support Greider's fearmongering. |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:16 AM |
#95 |
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We know . . . Wm. Greider "wants a pony" -- and doesn't get the "Chess game" -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:46 AM |
#117 |
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What nonsense. nt |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:51 AM |
#119 |
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Perhaps you're starting to recognize that the "pony" arguments are nonsense ...??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:56 AM |
#122 |
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My repsonse was specifically in reply to yours. Thought that was clear enough. nt |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:57 AM |
#123 |
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OK -- evidently the "pony" message isn't getting thru to those using it? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 11:01 AM |
#125 |
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Where did I use it? nt |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 11:11 AM |
#131 |
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Where did you produce any info counter to Wm. Greider's article? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 11:43 AM |
#133 |
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Where did I use the arguments you attribute to me? |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 12:15 PM |
#142 |
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First, Seniors did NOT get a $250 check . . . and they did not either get COLA increases . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 04:40 PM |
#195 |
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Really? Then what was that my mom cashed? Hint: it wasn't a coupon. |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 04:57 PM |
#198 |
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Understand what you're saying... $250 vs No COLAS ...didn't happen as far as I'm aware .... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 08:13 PM |
#212 |
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Understand what you're reading. Here: |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 08:46 PM |
#215 |
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My apologies if this actually happened -- I hope it did -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 11:52 PM |
#222 |
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Know what I notice? All these people talking about cutting SS benefits |
RaleighNCDUer |
Aug-02-10 09:28 AM |
#84 |
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++++++ |
Bluebear |
Aug-02-10 09:45 AM |
#87 |
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The oligarchs work for the oligarchs, not us. |
Karmadillo |
Aug-02-10 10:05 AM |
#91 |
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But see? That just makes them disinterested impartial judges of what's best for the nation! |
kenny blankenship |
Aug-02-10 01:15 PM |
#152 |
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K&R! |
Poboy |
Aug-02-10 10:05 AM |
#90 |
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Congress refused to create this Panel -- Obama did it by Executive Order . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:12 AM |
#94 |
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The *Republicans* in Congress refused to allow it to be created. nt |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:17 AM |
#96 |
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You're saying that the Democrats were in favor of this panel . . . ??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:21 AM |
#101 |
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Do you understand we're a debtor nation? |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:32 AM |
#108 |
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Do you understand WHY we're a debtor nation . . . ?? Start with wars bankrupting Treasury . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:52 AM |
#120 |
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Where are the facts to back up Greider's fearmongering. |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 10:56 AM |
#121 |
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OK -- so YOU are in favor of the Panel and cutting Social Security -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 11:00 AM |
#124 |
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This conversation shows me in real time the thought processes of people who take Greider seriously. |
quiet.american |
Aug-02-10 11:10 AM |
#129 |
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This conversation ... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 11:45 AM |
#134 |
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Unreal. |
inna |
Aug-03-10 08:32 AM |
#230 |
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DO you understand that SS has nothing whatsoever to do with our debt? n/t |
Greyhound |
Aug-02-10 04:33 PM |
#191 |
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you're YOU smoking? SS doesn't add to the deficit and cutting it won't help the deficit. |
nashville_brook |
Aug-02-10 05:42 PM |
#205 |
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Do you know that this commission is not addressing the actual causes of the deficit.. |
girl gone mad |
Aug-02-10 09:04 PM |
#217 |
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The US has been in debt almost every year since the revolution. so what? |
Hannah Bell |
Aug-02-10 09:19 PM |
#219 |
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+ ! |
ooglymoogly |
Aug-02-10 11:05 AM |
#127 |
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Btw, LOVE Wm. Greider and he's long been one of America's truth-tellers . . . |
defendandprotect |
Aug-02-10 10:19 AM |
#99 |
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This is why we can't have nice things... n/t |
Fearless |
Aug-02-10 10:30 AM |
#106 |
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one article suggested it's a done deal, the commission is just theater |
amborin |
Aug-02-10 11:02 AM |
#126 |
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He's surely not accusing the State Department of being double-dyed hypocrites. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Aug-02-10 11:48 AM |
#135 |
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Our State Department?! Inconceivable. |
EFerrari |
Aug-02-10 12:05 PM |
#138 |
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It's an investment opportunity! |
blindpig |
Aug-02-10 12:24 PM |
#144 |
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How else can they keep Wall Street Profits up and Market High? |
KoKo |
Aug-02-10 02:43 PM |
#166 |
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It's the "sensible" thing to do...if you need to pay for a lost war. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Aug-02-10 12:37 PM |
#149 |
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The Playbook |
zenprole |
Aug-02-10 01:18 PM |
#153 |
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I want to know what the definition of "problem" and "solvency" is. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-02-10 01:23 PM |
#154 |
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Opinion does not equal fact |
SpartanDem |
Aug-02-10 02:22 PM |
#162 |
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Top 5 Myths Regarding Social Security |
SugarShack |
Aug-02-10 02:29 PM |
#165 |
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This is total crap! |
h9socialist |
Aug-02-10 03:00 PM |
#170 |
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Well, just for fun, I'll bookmark this and we'll see how much 'crap' it is come December. nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-02-10 03:05 PM |
#172 |
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Better to have Democrats cut Social Security?! Are you fucking kidding me?! |
earth mom |
Aug-02-10 03:16 PM |
#173 |
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Better to have my mother shoot me in the head? |
Lasher |
Aug-02-10 04:36 PM |
#193 |
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The prez should be ashamed of himself... |
polichick |
Aug-02-10 03:55 PM |
#181 |
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+1000! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Aug-02-10 04:39 PM |
#194 |
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Well my measly ssd check is all I have to live on |
HillbillyBob |
Aug-02-10 04:07 PM |
#183 |
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What's happened is, DLC neoliberals have highjacked the Democratic Party. |
Lasher |
Aug-02-10 04:34 PM |
#192 |
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+1000% -- by now we should be waking up from this nightmare we thought was over!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-10 12:07 AM |
#224 |
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+1 |
LWolf |
Aug-04-10 07:38 PM |
#246 |
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Just as it took a "democrat," Bill Clinton, to jam NAFTA, GATT, WTO |
Citizen Worker |
Aug-02-10 04:40 PM |
#196 |
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terrible. -nt |
Poboy |
Aug-02-10 11:10 PM |
#221 |
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+1000% - and we continue to pretend Obama isn't dismantling public education -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-03-10 12:12 AM |
#225 |
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LEADING? |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Aug-02-10 04:48 PM |
#197 |
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" My suspicion is that the commission will come back with some ideas we don't want to hear" |
Better Believe It |
Aug-03-10 09:58 AM |
#233 |
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"The money will cover all benefits until the 2040s—unless Congress double-crosses workers... |
WillyT |
Aug-02-10 05:01 PM |
#199 |
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Ok... |
deathrind |
Aug-02-10 05:38 PM |
#204 |
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12 out of 12 of Noah Cross' friends agree: he should get custody of his daughter/granddaughter. |
Bolo Boffin |
Aug-02-10 08:02 PM |
#211 |
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Maybe I can invest my retirement in Ponies! |
RetroLounge |
Aug-02-10 08:41 PM |
#213 |
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You might as well gamble it on the ponies |
dflprincess |
Aug-02-10 08:52 PM |
#216 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-02-10 09:14 PM |
#218 |
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Seriously, how much more are we suppose to take? n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Aug-03-10 07:23 PM |
#238 |
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As much as they can dish out until we organize mass movements to stop them. |
Better Believe It |
Aug-03-10 08:57 PM |
#239 |
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I'm afraid so. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Aug-04-10 07:41 PM |
#247 |
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Should I start taste testing my kitties' food or prepare to become Soylent Green? |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-06-10 08:53 PM |
#250 |