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| 3. This is really weird to me; have they skimmed the bottom? |
| -Florida DEP finds no detectable oil along coastline |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 06:46 AM |
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i godda bridge... |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-30-10 06:47 AM |
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keep it.. nobody is interested.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 06:51 AM |
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evidentally someone is.....you, for starters... |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-30-10 06:55 AM |
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its called biology dear.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:01 AM |
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it's called corporate pr, "dear" |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-30-10 07:04 AM |
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yeah...cause no one else can go test it... n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jul-30-10 07:05 AM |
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If you believe |
dipsydoodle |
Jul-30-10 07:29 AM |
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i think someone on the coast who can actually verify |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jul-30-10 07:33 AM |
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you didnt even read the article did you? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:11 AM |
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keep smokin the good stuff. |
zonkers |
Jul-30-10 08:48 AM |
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i'm v. excited by this news |
pitohui |
Jul-30-10 02:34 PM |
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Nothing to see here, just move along, eh, Bob? NOAA disagrees with you. |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:10 AM |
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There are still plenty of issues and potential environmental problems but clearly its not as bad.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:12 AM |
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And, no doubt, we'll find out the long-term effects are FAR WORSE that some are claiming. |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:19 AM |
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Do you have evidence/reports that support you claim about the "damage underwater"? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:28 AM |
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After the Exxon Valdez accident, follow-up tests showed that 30 percent of the oil remained on the |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:43 AM |
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of course the Gulf is not Alaska but I am sure there will be some long term effects.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:57 AM |
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which you are basing on observations made 600 miles away |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 12:34 PM |
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you grant that things are bad in one message out of 20 |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 11:39 AM |
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Really? Can you tell me how many..."sea mammals" were killed? |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:00 PM |
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the closest point on the FL coast to the spill site |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jul-30-10 07:14 AM |
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As I said immediately above: |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:25 AM |
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indeed... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jul-30-10 07:27 AM |
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30 precent settled to the bottom. The rest has evaporated or is still dispersed in the water |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:38 AM |
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So you dismiss the effect of microorganisms? Most scientists would disagree with you. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:09 AM |
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Before you celebrate Gulf algae growth, read below about red tides, hypoxia, and dead zones. |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 08:27 AM |
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so is there a red tide in the Gulf?? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:30 AM |
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The Gulf has a huge hypoxic dead zone, now much more so. |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 09:58 AM |
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Here's link to a map of current areas of "dead zones".. they are no where near the spill site.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 11:21 AM |
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and you are posting about places 600 miles away as evidence that things aren't so bad |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 12:41 PM |
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Do you have any evidence to support your claims of "dead zones" near the spill site? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:52 PM |
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do you have evidence to say that the oil spill site was not negatively impacted? |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 12:55 PM |
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of course it was negatively impacted.. any idiot knows that.. you are claiming "dead zones".. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:58 PM |
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there are dead zones in the Gulf |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:01 PM |
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you are making the "extraordinary claim" of "dead zones" near the well. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 01:04 PM |
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actually i'm not |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:09 PM |
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Ok. I give up.. but lets wait and see what comes back from the next sampling by Dr Joye's team.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 01:13 PM |
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YES! Wait and see the oxygen data before you declare that it's not so bad |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:18 PM |
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never mind.. you are hopeless.. I suspect you will be trashing Dr Joye.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 01:20 PM |
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not hopeless, it's my hope that people can see through your arguments |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:24 PM |
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but you are making just a few posts admitting that it's a disaster |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:22 PM |
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There have been a slew of articles on the recent expansion of Gulf dead zones |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 01:32 PM |
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I am talking about reports of measurements since the gusher was capped.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 01:37 PM |
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Here's a CBS reference to Dead Zone from 07/28: |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 02:18 PM |
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The report says: "One worry? So-called undersea dead zones where oil starves oxygen from the water" |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 02:25 PM |
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Here's a better article in Nature (07/27) - substantial disagreement about latest data |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 02:48 PM |
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interesting article. yes, even the scientists are disagreeing.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 03:12 PM |
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This is really weird to me; have they skimmed the bottom? |
babylonsister |
Jul-30-10 06:52 AM |
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The article doesnt say.. but there was another article yesterday that mentioned they found no oil.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 06:58 AM |
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Sounds way too 'convenient' for me. nt |
babylonsister |
Jul-30-10 06:59 AM |
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Its bit hard to imagine a massive conspiracy here with state & fed scientists faking test results... |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:05 AM |
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ALL that oil has been consumed by microorganisms in a matter of weeks? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 07:02 AM |
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read this and you tell me.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:06 AM |
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you beat me to it - i read this after I posted & just edited my post. to reflect that |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 07:17 AM |
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I hear ya. There has to be some long term negative impact considering the massive amount of oil.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:23 AM |
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what ABOUT the animals? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 08:23 AM |
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Dead fish, dolphins, turtles,etc. would float to the surface and would be obvious.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:31 AM |
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not true - plenty was written about this back in May & June |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 08:46 AM |
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Quite alot of dead fish were reported washing ashore back in May and June but none recently.. afaik. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 11:13 AM |
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My guess is that everything was and is DEAD-nothing to wash to shore. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 11:44 AM |
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My guess is that you are wrong... |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 11:48 AM |
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You think dolphins are swimming around there? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 12:27 PM |
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Does a wild dolphin pee in the Gulf? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:34 PM |
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Does a dead dolphin get devoured by sharks? |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:42 PM |
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now you're being silly - guess that means you're out of ammo |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 12:42 PM |
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out of patience.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:52 PM |
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And quite a lot of "sea mammals" weren't reported |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 11:56 AM |
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They are not dolphins. They are "sea mammals". Media 101 |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:03 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:14 PM |
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Nice pictures. Try googling news reports. |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:40 PM |
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why do you think there are only 2 species of mammal in the gulf? therre are 28 species |
pitohui |
Jul-30-10 02:42 PM |
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Because they are all dolphins and whales. And a wayward manatee or two |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 03:20 PM |
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Next we wil hear that the oil spill actually improved the oceans. This is total BS. |
zonkers |
Jul-30-10 08:55 AM |
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Remember that the EPA told us the air was safe in NYC after 9/11 |
Fumesucker |
Jul-30-10 06:55 AM |
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Wasn't a report posted on DU that Corexit was in the water mix in the Keys & on Fl's SE. Coast? |
Mika |
Jul-30-10 06:58 AM |
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It isn't that hard to believe (despite the doomers) I mean think about it. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 07:21 AM |
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yeah, that's what the scientists are saying, but the gloom and doomers dont like it. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:30 AM |
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ftr, I'm not a doom and gloomer and hope this is accurate. |
babylonsister |
Jul-30-10 07:32 AM |
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I know you are not.. and I was not referring to you... |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 07:34 AM |
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i thought the worst oil spill in this hemisphere ever was reason for doom and gloom. |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 10:59 AM |
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Thanks for the thread. |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:08 PM |
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That's misleading. Oil doesn't naturally gush at a rate of 100,000 bbls/day from a particular site. |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 07:34 AM |
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so where's all the dead stuff and oiled beaches many were predicting? |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:00 AM |
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Here's oil on Pensacola beach.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-30-10 08:06 AM |
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those vids are more than a month old.. the gusher was still gushing then.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:10 AM |
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And the oil has all miraculously disappeared? |
Fumesucker |
Jul-30-10 08:24 AM |
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I dont know about "miraculously", but yes, it disappeared.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 08:28 AM |
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There's nothing to debate, the EPA's lies are a matter of record.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-30-10 08:35 AM |
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you keep moving the goalposts to focus on one aspect of environmental damage |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 11:30 AM |
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Nobody said anything about it not being toxic. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 08:03 AM |
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Those algal blooms aren't all that beneficial. Ever heard of red tides, hypoxia, and dead zones? |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 08:16 AM |
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There is one big difference. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 08:27 AM |
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And, you think there's no nitrogen in crude oil? |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 08:32 AM |
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No that wasn't the point. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 08:37 AM |
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I've been reading the same argument that falsely compares this oil spill to natural seeps |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 11:52 AM |
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once this is pointed out, yes, it does seem logical |
pitohui |
Jul-30-10 02:48 PM |
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apparently the oil was abducted by aliens |
spanone |
Jul-30-10 07:21 AM |
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Perhaps Cheney used his earthquake machine to open up a huge hole in the Gulf... |
trotsky |
Jul-30-10 07:36 AM |
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Someone call Arizona. n/t |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 08:49 AM |
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LOL. |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 12:46 PM |
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It's all about the bribed people in charge picking the sample location upwind and away. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jul-30-10 07:39 AM |
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This is great news! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 07:57 AM |
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Read above about red tides, hypoxia, and the Gulf Dead Zone |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 08:21 AM |
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Good news to coastal wildlife |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 08:31 AM |
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This is very interesting |
NoNothing |
Jul-30-10 08:22 AM |
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Very good idea. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 08:40 AM |
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"Selectively bred . . . with shorter lifespan" - sounds like the subplot to "Blade Runner" |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 08:55 AM |
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i heard plans for growing oil-eating bacteria in the 1980s |
pitohui |
Jul-30-10 02:52 PM |
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There are indeed microbes used for that purpose. |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 11:46 AM |
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I'm very skeptical about evolution happening yet. |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 11:43 AM |
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No, evolution of microbes in the gulf over a long period |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 11:54 AM |
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More efficient still does NOT mean that they are perfectly evolved for this situation |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 12:07 PM |
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Of course it took time. |
Statistical |
Jul-30-10 12:47 PM |
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hopefully the sea life can "hold their breath" until the temporary reduction of oxygen passes |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 01:00 PM |
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This is not a situation that has occured in thousands of years though |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 02:07 PM |
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Yet the evidence right now suggests a rather rapid recovery |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 02:13 PM |
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In some ways, yes.. |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 04:18 PM |
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Perhaps I'm not being clear |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 02:10 PM |
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It's probably all submerged because of the dispersents. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-30-10 08:47 AM |
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That doens't mean that the water isn't dangerously polluted |
rocktivity |
Jul-30-10 09:04 AM |
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millions of gallons of oil remain below-MSM living in "parallel universe" |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 10:46 AM |
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OKay I'll tell you one thing |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 11:39 AM |
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. |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 11:41 AM |
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! |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 11:46 AM |
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!! |
QC |
Jul-30-10 11:52 AM |
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!!! |
City Lights |
Jul-30-10 12:01 PM |
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bunch of nitwits !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 12:04 PM |
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ROFL !! Perfect ! |
K Gardner |
Jul-30-10 02:51 PM |
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I don't get it |
sakabatou |
Jul-30-10 03:24 PM |
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It's not "sky is falling" news, so nobody will believe you... |
SidDithers |
Jul-30-10 12:43 PM |
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Sid. Read my concerns with this news. |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 01:01 PM |
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The detection readings are what they are... |
SidDithers |
Jul-30-10 01:19 PM |
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Yes, I do truly think they are not detecting oil |
TZ |
Jul-30-10 02:02 PM |
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I'd wager that it is certainly not all gone |
Stuckinthebush |
Jul-30-10 02:15 PM |
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and absolutely no reason to question....all news is true |
spanone |
Jul-30-10 01:01 PM |
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Disinfo and bullshit is what they are feeding us. Don't believe it people! |
earth mom |
Jul-30-10 01:24 PM |
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Good news for Florida what about the other States |
BootinUp |
Jul-30-10 01:24 PM |
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NASA time-lapse shows a decided southern trend |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 01:31 PM |
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Great! Let's all hear it for Charlie Crist's happy Corexit fish that will eat through our kidneys |
Catherina |
Jul-30-10 02:05 PM |
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so its a massive conspiracy involving NOAA, EPA, FDA, universities, state agencies, etc, etc... |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 02:20 PM |
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Anything for money |
Catherina |
Jul-30-10 03:47 PM |
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So you really do believe this is a massive conspiracy across multiple organizations.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 03:58 PM |
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Dedicated thread with links |
Cetacea |
Jul-30-10 04:15 PM |
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Wow indeed. If it comes from DC, it must be true eh? n/t |
Catherina |
Jul-30-10 04:17 PM |
#154 |
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"Has not developed into a megadisaster".. ??? That's sarcasm, right? |
K Gardner |
Jul-30-10 02:20 PM |
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no. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 02:21 PM |
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The deep-water pollution will show up in "other ways" |
SoCalDem |
Jul-30-10 02:20 PM |
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It amazes me when people have no clue they are being lied to. |
asdjrocky |
Jul-30-10 02:23 PM |
#133 |
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It amazes me when people simply ignore science when it does not fit their opinion. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 02:30 PM |
#135 |
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it's not scientific to say "prove it to me" on something that has an established causal link |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 02:55 PM |
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Opinion here, like current scientific opinion, appears to be split on critical issues - see above |
leveymg |
Jul-30-10 02:56 PM |
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bump for BS |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 03:36 PM |
#147 |
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your bump is BS.. |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 03:54 PM |
#149 |
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oh, you must be rested up |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jul-30-10 05:26 PM |
#156 |
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I am not sure folks understand this is FLORIDA |
BootinUp |
Jul-30-10 03:59 PM |
#151 |
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good. maybe all these doom loonies will chill out now... |
DCBob |
Jul-30-10 04:02 PM |
#152 |
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so you're saying that the lack of surface oil observed off Florida |
CreekDog |
Jul-30-10 06:23 PM |
#157 |
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