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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 05:13 PM
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16. Nothing funny about it.
Either way, what is the worst final outcome? Sandblasting and repainting. "HATE" crime is no different than THOUGHT crime. The law is attempting to get inside your head. What if the swastika (originally a symbol of friendship, btw), was painted on that synagogue on a drunken dare? Is there a separate Drunken Stupid crime category? Why not?

Either tagging is VANDALISM and should be prosecuted as such. Your non-too-subtle assertion that it's only being opposed because GAYS were added to it is as reprehensible and ignorant as the law itself.

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  -I'm agreeing with Tucker Carlson Atman  May-14-07 03:49 PM   #0 
  - ?  WilliamPitt   May-14-07 03:51 PM   #1 
  - I think the topic was hate crimes, if that helps.  Fridays Child   May-14-07 03:56 PM   #3 
  - Well, if YOU is the ruling elite, it's a whole other ballgame and TC knows that quite well. nt  valerief   May-14-07 03:51 PM   #2 
  - Bullshit  Atman   May-14-07 04:05 PM   #6 
     - The warmongers aren't in prison, are they? And the war is illegal. nt  valerief   May-14-07 04:27 PM   #12 
     - More resources? Is that what the law does? Give more resources to investigate hate crimes?  Sapere aude   May-14-07 04:29 PM   #14 
        - YES, that is what the law does.  Atman   May-14-07 05:08 PM   #15 
  - An interesting topic  BOSSHOG   May-14-07 04:01 PM   #4 
  - Would you change your mind  atreides1   May-14-07 04:01 PM   #5 
  - No, I would not change my mind.  Atman   May-14-07 04:06 PM   #7 
  - Funny the topic comes up..  mitchtv   May-14-07 04:11 PM   #8 
  - Nothing funny about it.  Atman   May-14-07 05:13 PM   #16 
  - We Arrest People for Their Actions - Not Their Thoughts  Crisco   May-14-07 04:15 PM   #9 
  - Why are there degrees of crimes in court?  submerged99   May-14-07 04:22 PM   #11 
     - So that rich people can get off easily. nt  valerief   May-14-07 04:28 PM   #13 
     - Because you can ACCIDENTALLY shoot someone.  Atman   May-14-07 05:14 PM   #17 
     - What if I beat you to death in the heat of passion.......  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 05:48 PM   #24 
        - can't delete n/t  submerged99   May-14-07 06:52 PM   #33 
           - My post was aimed at ATMAN. n/t  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 07:06 PM   #38 
           - That's ok. No worries. I'll kick this again because I want to hear the OP's views on ......  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 07:11 PM   #40 
     - Intent is not motive. And that's the legal distinction.  WinkyDink   May-14-07 05:29 PM   #22 
        - What if you kill someone, on purpose, in the heat of passion....  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 05:50 PM   #27 
        - And it should be illegal to intentionally beat minorities.  Bornaginhooligan   May-14-07 05:50 PM   #28 
        - It is already illegal to intentially beat ANYBODY.  Atman   May-14-07 07:30 PM   #42 
           - But the sentences are stiffer depending on motive.  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 08:00 PM   #43 
              - Which I did, in fact, acknowledge very plainly!  Atman   May-14-07 08:37 PM   #46 
                 - Arrrrgh....there you go with the "thought crime" bull....  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 09:13 PM   #47 
        - my mistake  submerged99   May-14-07 07:07 PM   #39 
  - I can't listen to his shit long enough to agree or disagree  madokie   May-14-07 04:17 PM   #10 
  - no one is likely to drag Tucker behind a car for being white, or beat him to death for being hetero  ComerPerro   May-14-07 05:15 PM   #18 
  - But one could do it for his being an obnoxious asshole pundit.  Atman   May-14-07 05:17 PM   #19 
  - well, thing is, hate crime legislation doesn't really take away any rights  ComerPerro   May-14-07 05:25 PM   #20 
     - But this bill gives MORE resources to police to prosecute crimes against gays  Atman   May-14-07 05:50 PM   #26 
        - well whoppiti damn ding dong...  Huskerchub   May-14-07 06:21 PM   #30 
        - What, exactly, is the "special right"? Do I get secret service protection?  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 06:30 PM   #31 
        - Oh for christ sake, get real.  Atman   May-14-07 06:48 PM   #32 
           - I didn't ask you about resources. I specifically asked you about 'rights.'  Kingshakabobo   May-14-07 07:04 PM   #37 
              - You simply are not getting what this bill proposes -- RESOURCES.  Atman   May-14-07 07:29 PM   #41 
        - ah finally "extra rights"  mitchtv   May-14-07 09:30 PM   #49 
  - because he is neither  Swamp Rat   May-14-07 05:26 PM   #21 
     - creepy  ComerPerro   May-14-07 05:29 PM   #23 
     - Damn, you beat me.  Bornaginhooligan   May-14-07 05:49 PM   #25 
  - Kind of Not the Point  Madspirit   May-14-07 05:54 PM   #29 
  - Hiding seems to suit you.  Atman   May-14-07 06:54 PM   #35 
  - Then I disagree with both of you  liberalEd   May-14-07 06:53 PM   #34 
  - You're equating MURDER with an accident.  Atman   May-14-07 07:00 PM   #36 
     - Only to make one point  liberalEd   May-14-07 08:14 PM   #45 
  - I'm against hate crime legislation, too.  Matsubara   May-14-07 08:04 PM   #44 
  - I'd rather eat my own face than agree with tucker carlson.  Blue State Native   May-14-07 09:15 PM   #48 
     - Me too. That's why I thought it was noteworthy enough to post about!  Atman   May-14-07 09:33 PM   #50 
        - ..  Blue State Native   May-14-07 09:37 PM   #51 

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