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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 01:06 PM
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20. Vilsack, himself, said, in effect, he 'jumped the gun'...
Edited on Fri Jul-23-10 01:07 PM by Spazito
and he certainly did. President Obama was merely stating what was true and self-admitted by Vilsack but we ONLY have a deliberately selected clip to go by as opposed to any context in which the President made his belief known.

Oh, and I believe the FULL interview has yet to air which is this evening so, yet again, outrage over a deliberately selected CLIP which is being accepted without any question as to why THAT clip might have been selected, is not unlike the reaction DUers castigated the Obama administration for doing, not waiting to get the full facts, the entire interview, before rendering a verdict.

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  -Obama blamed Vilsack for firing Sherrod.... Green_Lantern  Jul-23-10 12:37 PM   #0 
  - Thats what fall guys are for.  VMI Dem   Jul-23-10 12:38 PM   #1 
  - Fall guy? Guilty guy? it was Vils call...he takes the Fall...Sale going on at SWORDS R US  opihimoimoi   Jul-23-10 12:42 PM   #3 
  - I'm sure Vilsack didn't just fire her without the WH pressuring him..  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 12:45 PM   #4 
     - How did you come to that conclusion?  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 12:46 PM   #5 
     - Sherodd said it herself  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 12:55 PM   #11 
        - Centrists think she is a liar.  VMI Dem   Jul-23-10 01:01 PM   #17 
        - well she is a communist..  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:07 PM   #22 
        - "Centrists think she is a liar."  bvar22   Jul-23-10 11:43 PM   #85 
        - The "White House" does not always imply Presidential involvement nor did she actually KNOW...  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:14 PM   #27 
           - The president takes responsiblity for what "comes out of the White House".  bobbolink   Jul-23-10 01:21 PM   #31 
           - Yea, and people like you have turned it into nothing more than a corny cliche...  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:27 PM   #40 
              - Yes, exactly. +1000  treestar   Jul-23-10 01:52 PM   #57 
              - Seriously?  SammyWinstonJack   Jul-23-10 07:22 PM   #83 
              - uhh. what about that much vaulted phrase *I've got this*.  Donnachaidh   Jul-23-10 02:42 PM   #77 
              - Its people like you, who see "attacks" on Obama behind every post, who are doing the  bobbolink   Jul-23-10 03:18 PM   #79 
           - so you think Sherrod is ignorant of how the federal bureacracy works?  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:22 PM   #32 
           - I think Sherrod is not an all knowing, all seeing flying spaghetti monster...  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:29 PM   #43 
              - Sherrod would know if the person telling her to resign worked  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:46 PM   #52 
                 - Cheryl Cook does not work in the White House and thats who fired her.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:50 PM   #55 
                    - sorry...the BBC story I quoted wasn't very clear about who told her  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 02:00 PM   #61 
           - Yes I am sure the headlines about a Obama "appointee"  MyNameGoesHere   Jul-23-10 01:39 PM   #50 
     - Exactly - it was discussed at the Monday morning WH staff meeting. nt  DURHAM D   Jul-23-10 12:47 PM   #6 
     - Or, at the VERY least  rocktivity   Jul-23-10 01:34 PM   #48 
  - Vilsack was supposed to check with Obama before he fired her?  jeffrey_X   Jul-23-10 07:24 PM   #84 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-23-10 12:41 PM   #2 
  - Obama throws many things under the bus...  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 12:49 PM   #7 
  - Michelle has an organic garden behind the White House  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-23-10 12:56 PM   #12 
  - Maybe that was the WH plan all along?  texastoast   Jul-23-10 12:53 PM   #9 
  - or maybe Obama can step down and let Sherrod be President..  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 12:58 PM   #15 
  - I think I would be happy if . . .  gratuitous   Jul-23-10 12:52 PM   #8 
  - I like all the calls for Vilsack to be fired.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 12:55 PM   #10 
  - No it's not the same at all.  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-23-10 12:58 PM   #14 
  - It's irrational knee jerk fingerpointing, of the Breitbart variety.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:00 PM   #16 
  - Let's Sherrod was fired in 3 minutes...a few days later Vilasck still has his job...  joeybee12   Jul-23-10 01:08 PM   #23 
  - Dumbasses call for Sherrod to be fired for no good reason...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:12 PM   #26 
  - Good point...nt  SidDithers   Jul-23-10 01:14 PM   #28 
  - I hope you aren't a Luddite...  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:04 PM   #18 
     - Oh, he is.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:05 PM   #19 
        - MonSatan...  SidDithers   Jul-23-10 01:30 PM   #45 
  - Hmmm, let's see now...  ljm2002   Jul-23-10 01:07 PM   #21 
  - Here's how it's the same.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:11 PM   #25 
     - Here's how it's different.  ljm2002   Jul-23-10 01:25 PM   #35 
        - The Obama administration looks bad because people still carry Breitbart's water.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:26 PM   #38 
           - Actually, I haven't called for anyone to be fired...  ljm2002   Jul-23-10 01:33 PM   #46 
  - Yes, it's exactly the same thing  tkmorris   Jul-23-10 01:46 PM   #53 
  - Not at all.  bvar22   Jul-23-10 11:49 PM   #86 
  - Last I heard presidents hire cabinet secretarys to carry out THEIR policies.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-23-10 12:56 PM   #13 
  - Firing someone because you thought they did something wrong is a pretty normal policy to have.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:11 PM   #24 
     - And, Vilsack is still employed, while Sharrod isn't.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-23-10 01:17 PM   #29 
     - Horse shit. The administration has apologized to her and offered her re-employment.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:22 PM   #33 
     - Sherrod was offered her job back.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-10 01:25 PM   #37 
        - No she was not  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-23-10 02:04 PM   #64 
           - Vilsuck, you must have laid awake all night thinking that one up.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 02:07 PM   #66 
              - I've been calling him that since 2004  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-23-10 02:24 PM   #73 
     - if he believed fox news without looking into it, he's an idiot who should be fired.  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 01:27 PM   #41 
        - I hope you never run any company I ever work for.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:30 PM   #44 
           - do you dispute the contention that personnel decisions shouldn't be based on propaganda  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 01:34 PM   #47 
              - I dispute the basis for your argument in general.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:48 PM   #54 
                 - "doesn't automatically mean" -- which is why investigation should be done before snap decisions.  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 01:53 PM   #58 
                 - Fox tore into John Edwards for fucking around on his wife. That was legitimate.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 02:01 PM   #62 
                    - oh, please. fox news selectively reports cheaters, as it selectively reports everything else,  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 02:12 PM   #68 
                       - I didn't say they were a legitimate news organization.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 02:17 PM   #70 
                          - i didn't say any story from fox was false. i said anyone who makes a decision based on a report  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 02:19 PM   #71 
                             - So Fox was the ONLY media outlet reporting this prior to the firing?  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 02:23 PM   #72 
                                - more goalpost moving & diversion. it is to you, apparently.  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 02:29 PM   #74 
                                   - Yea, even the NAACP thought there was something to it.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 05:13 PM   #81 
                 - The mistake was in not waiting to hear Sharrod's side of the story ...  spin   Jul-24-10 12:23 AM   #87 
  - Vilsack, himself, said, in effect, he 'jumped the gun'...  Spazito   Jul-23-10 01:06 PM   #20 
  - your logic doesn't make sense  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:18 PM   #30 
  - Your reading comprehension makes even less sense.  phleshdef   Jul-23-10 01:25 PM   #36 
  - Huh, this is what I said...  Spazito   Jul-23-10 01:39 PM   #49 
  - sorry...the BBC story I quoted wasn't very clear about who told her  Green_Lantern   Jul-23-10 01:56 PM   #59 
     - That's the unfortunate side of taking any, and I really mean, any news...  Spazito   Jul-23-10 02:04 PM   #63 
  - Actually Sherrod doesn't say that the White House pressured her  quiller4   Jul-23-10 01:43 PM   #51 
     - cbs says: Shirley Sherrod: White House Forced My Resignation  Hannah Bell   Jul-23-10 02:15 PM   #69 
  - It real guilty MFKR is Brietbart and his minions incl FAUX NOOS  opihimoimoi   Jul-23-10 01:23 PM   #34 
     - Yep, Vilsack acted wrongly and has admitted it, apologized for it...  Spazito   Jul-23-10 01:51 PM   #56 
        - FOX is stuck in a Nuts Vice.....nuts squeezed with 4756 lbs psi pressure  opihimoimoi   Jul-23-10 01:58 PM   #60 
           - Yep, totally agree! n/t  Spazito   Jul-23-10 02:04 PM   #65 
  - well?  spanone   Jul-23-10 01:27 PM   #39 
  - Wasn't it Vilsack who fired Sharrod?...nt  SidDithers   Jul-23-10 01:28 PM   #42 
  - According to Ms. Sherrod, she was told several times that the WH wanted her to resign.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-23-10 02:10 PM   #67 
  - Yeah, so? Are you saying that someone else fired her?  dtexdem   Jul-23-10 02:38 PM   #75 
  - President Obama is blowing a lot of stupid stuff here  cwydro   Jul-23-10 02:40 PM   #76 
  - It also isn't true  Minimus   Jul-23-10 05:10 PM   #80 
     - Sure  cwydro   Jul-23-10 07:19 PM   #82 
  - It's true but...  moondust   Jul-23-10 03:07 PM   #78 

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