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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:10 PM
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47. Funny how actual vets don't have problem with this.n/t
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  -Why It's Wrong to Equate Military Service With Heroism unhappycamper  Jul-23-10 05:19 AM   #0 
  - We cheapen the word hero every day on the right and on the left  stray cat   Jul-23-10 07:23 AM   #1 
  - I don't think we make heroes out of people because they were fired wrongly  pinboy3niner   Jul-23-10 08:01 AM   #2 
  - I couldn't disagree more. Our soldiers are heroes and they deserve our respect  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 08:16 AM   #3 
  - Respect and admiration are fine  pinboy3niner   Jul-23-10 08:36 AM   #6 
  - +1 nt  Obamanaut   Jul-23-10 09:02 AM   #10 
  - I wouldn't expect heroes to think of themselves in that light  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 10:17 AM   #21 
  - "I'd think our troops might feel uncomfortable at being called heroes..."  Book Lover   Jul-23-10 12:49 PM   #42 
  - Sorry to disagree with you  14thColony   Jul-23-10 09:42 AM   #15 
  - You said it.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 10:15 AM   #18 
  - You know I wouldn't expect heroes to think of themselves that way  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 10:17 AM   #20 
  - I agree with you. There are things people do that may be "heroic"  rustydog   Jul-23-10 07:58 PM   #49 
  - I'm guessing you were never in. n/t  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 10:14 AM   #17 
  - Honestly I don't care what you are guessing, it's not going to convince me that  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 10:16 AM   #19 
     - Thanks for the answer.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 10:32 AM   #26 
        - I am amazed at your comments.  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 10:36 AM   #28 
           - Well, some of us understand how the world is working and see the desperate need for  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 10:48 AM   #29 
              - I find most people that understand how the world works  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 10:53 AM   #30 
                 - There is a class war and it has been waged against us for a very long time.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 12:12 PM   #32 
                 - So that's how you see the world  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 12:17 PM   #33 
                    - So, we have established that you are an obedient follower with no real knowledge of the military.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 12:26 PM   #35 
                       - We established that is what you believe the world to be like  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 12:27 PM   #36 
                          - You've admitted as well as demonstrated that you know nothing of the military.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 12:34 PM   #37 
                             - Keep on believing  NJmaverick   Jul-23-10 12:35 PM   #38 
                                - No belief required, you've laid it out plain.  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 01:11 PM   #43 
                                - That was a good use of popcorn...thanks.  U4ikLefty   Jul-25-10 01:06 AM   #82 
                                - As someone who is against the DP  JonLP24   Jul-24-10 10:18 PM   #71 
                 - "class wars, which is pretty much an artificial construct "  Ignis   Jul-24-10 01:47 PM   #67 
                 - That post was telling. Very telling. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-24-10 10:26 PM   #74 
  - All of them?  Ignis   Jul-24-10 01:16 AM   #51 
  - "Our soldiers are heroes and they deserve our respect and admiration"  inna   Jul-24-10 05:29 AM   #58 
  - Big Lynndie England fan, are ya?  Forkboy   Jul-24-10 06:51 AM   #60 
  - One way to respect military people is to listen to their opinions  noamnety   Jul-24-10 01:28 PM   #64 
  - As a former soldier  JonLP24   Jul-24-10 10:12 PM   #69 
  - The Lt. Col. seems to know more about the subject than you do. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-24-10 10:16 PM   #70 
  - No they don't.  alarimer   Jul-25-10 12:32 AM   #78 
  - It isn't necessarily wrong nor right.  patrice   Jul-23-10 08:24 AM   #4 
  - I never considered myself a hero just becuase I was wearing fatigues.  hobbit709   Jul-23-10 08:28 AM   #5 
  - Maybe it's because we are becoming a nation of Authoritarian lap-dogs.  EnviroBat   Jul-23-10 08:45 AM   #7 
  - Agree. I've been pissed about the use of 'our heroes' by the local news station for years now.  sinkingfeeling   Jul-23-10 08:55 AM   #8 
  - I went to basic training four days after HS graduation, because I didn't  Obamanaut   Jul-23-10 09:00 AM   #9 
  - It's also the 4th point in the 14 points towards fascism  Donnachaidh   Jul-23-10 09:10 AM   #11 
  - "Hero" is just another product churned out by corporate America  GreenEyedLefty   Jul-23-10 09:19 AM   #12 
  - I don't think this needs an edit  Hydra   Jul-24-10 01:04 AM   #50 
  - The term is, sadly, now used so much for propaganda that it has  DirkGently   Jul-23-10 09:22 AM   #13 
  - The definition of both hero and patriotism have been grossly maligned. nt  Javaman   Jul-23-10 10:35 AM   #27 
     - ... and manipulated  DirkGently   Jul-23-10 12:24 PM   #34 
  - They paid me $79 a month to be a "hero" and wanted me to kill people so LBJ could look tough.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-23-10 09:29 AM   #14 
  - This sort of reminds me...  Steely_Dan   Jul-23-10 10:11 AM   #16 
  - Thanks for speaking up for the unsung heroes  LWolf   Jul-23-10 10:18 AM   #22 
  - Problem is we've been elevating entire occupations to hero status  mike r   Jul-23-10 10:24 AM   #23 
  - when I asked my son about his actions in Iraq-"I didn't do f&cking shit,mom"  w8liftinglady   Jul-23-10 10:27 AM   #24 
  - " there are no heroes only desperate men"  joe black   Jul-23-10 10:30 AM   #25 
  - I give a troop credit for signing on the dotted line.  Orsino   Jul-23-10 11:43 AM   #31 
  - My mom had to go through that withering regime as well...  WCGreen   Jul-23-10 12:42 PM   #39 
  - And you can be a PATRIOT without joining the military or supporting stupid wars  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-23-10 12:42 PM   #40 
  - Paul Wellstone was a patriot. Teddy Kennedy was a patriot.  loudsue   Jul-24-10 08:44 AM   #61 
  - A mother of an active duty Marine ( 8 yrs.) responds  stanwyck   Jul-23-10 12:47 PM   #41 
  - That was very nicely said. nt  Obamanaut   Jul-24-10 05:25 AM   #56 
  - K&R  lfairban   Jul-23-10 01:32 PM   #44 
  - a true HERO was Rosa Parks (IMO)  Gin   Jul-23-10 02:23 PM   #45 
  - there's nothing heroic about murder and wars of aggression....  mike_c   Jul-23-10 07:05 PM   #46 
  - What you said.  stranger81   Jul-24-10 01:43 AM   #54 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-10 12:58 AM   #80 
  - Funny how actual vets don't have problem with this.n/t  Greyhound   Jul-23-10 07:10 PM   #47 
  - You know who calls Miltiary Members heroes?  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-23-10 07:10 PM   #48 
  - +1. I like your point about their humility.  Ignis   Jul-24-10 01:20 AM   #52 
     - I managed to wiggle my way out of one  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-24-10 01:24 PM   #63 
  - "Hero" is as empty a word as "racist' has become. My friend...  Skip Intro   Jul-24-10 01:28 AM   #53 
  - Not only heros...but are family men....  wuvuj   Jul-24-10 05:15 AM   #55 
  - Thank you  Solly Mack   Jul-24-10 05:28 AM   #57 
  - As a currently serving Paratrooper  USArmyParatrooper   Jul-24-10 05:49 AM   #59 
  - As to the meals  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-24-10 01:29 PM   #65 
     - According to the 2010 pay charts, an E2 gets $1622/month base  Obamanaut   Jul-24-10 01:44 PM   #66 
        - And an E-2 married with two kids  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-24-10 10:08 PM   #68 
        - And an E2 married with 2 kids has not been prudent or responsible.  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 12:43 AM   #79 
           - "And an E2 married with 2 kids has not been prudent or responsible."  PavePusher   Jul-25-10 01:02 AM   #81 
           - I think that is covered in the message block. nt  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 01:11 AM   #83 
           - Are you a USMC recruiter of the oh 1940s  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-25-10 12:25 PM   #85 
              - No, not a recruiter of any era. But I don't know what you are talking  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 12:48 PM   #86 
                 - The Corp did not allow married people to join  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-25-10 12:52 PM   #87 
                    - A person making that married with dependents E2 pay of more than  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 01:05 PM   #88 
                       - Service members have issues that civilians don't.  PavePusher   Jul-25-10 03:27 PM   #89 
                          - I do have a smattering of knowledge re the items in your post. I retired  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 04:07 PM   #90 
                             - And you still come across as I am better than you  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-25-10 06:52 PM   #91 
                                - If you will recall, this back and forth began with a statement suggesting  Obamanaut   Jul-25-10 07:15 PM   #92 
                                   - THanks for the echos going back 300 years in US History  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-25-10 07:51 PM   #93 
                                      - Interesting response regarding decisions. Anyone, rich or poor,  Obamanaut   Jul-26-10 06:02 AM   #95 
        - Damn. I remember the big raise when they bumped me from $180 to $330/mo.  hobbit709   Jul-24-10 11:45 PM   #77 
  - whether or not they are HEROES ... they are a POLITICAL SMOKESCREEN  Martin Eden   Jul-24-10 09:01 AM   #62 
  - Great article. I daresay the same applies to "thank you for your service".  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-24-10 10:21 PM   #72 
  - Thanks UHC  Stinky The Clown   Jul-24-10 10:23 PM   #73 
  - Hero: Ralph Waldo Emerson  Dawson Leery   Jul-24-10 10:37 PM   #75 
  - Also, when patriotism is spoken of  Dawson Leery   Jul-24-10 11:36 PM   #76 
  - I think it a species of backlash  ismnotwasm   Jul-25-10 01:51 AM   #84 
  - I disagree  mdmc   Jul-25-10 08:00 PM   #94 
 

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