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Mon Jul-19-10 05:18 AM
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| 10. Nobody knows what it means. It's just a lofty word people like to use. nt |
| -Progressives Fail because Progressivism is not Understood |
stevenleser |
Jul-19-10 02:22 AM |
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Change Minds, Change Votes |
sandnsea |
Jul-19-10 02:34 AM |
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We could start by ceasing to use the word "progressive." |
Unvanguard |
Jul-19-10 02:37 AM |
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I have no problem with Liberal, but some are afraid to call themselves that |
stevenleser |
Jul-19-10 03:05 AM |
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I like and often use "leftist." |
Unvanguard |
Jul-19-10 04:44 AM |
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Why not? Leftist has a long and storied history |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-19-10 10:00 AM |
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Liberal, from the Sumerian "libis" meaning heart, core, anger, courage, family. |
aquart |
Jul-19-10 04:22 AM |
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"Progressive" the way it's tossed around sounds very uppity... |
Kahuna |
Jul-19-10 05:13 AM |
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Name removed |
Jul-19-10 02:42 AM |
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I've been asking for a definition for years. Never get one. |
aquart |
Jul-19-10 04:20 AM |
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Nobody knows what it means. It's just a lofty word people like to use. nt |
Kahuna |
Jul-19-10 05:18 AM |
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AS someone who calls herself a progressive, I know what it means. |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-10 08:38 AM |
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Sounds socialist to me......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-19-10 10:03 AM |
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So what? You can make a great case for democratic socialism a la |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-10 10:24 AM |
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"So what?" My point exactly............. |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-19-10 10:30 AM |
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No, I cannot agree with you on this. Among fellow progressives, it's just |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-10 10:41 AM |
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I don't know if we disagree all that much........... |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-19-10 10:52 AM |
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Your argument is very good by staying with the "average American" theme. |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-10 11:06 AM |
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I'm glad im not the only one. |
white_wolf |
Jul-19-10 04:55 PM |
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That's what it means to you. Too bad many other so-called progressives.. |
Kahuna |
Jul-19-10 01:21 PM |
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It's the same thing as Liberal, but with out the media hysteria. nt |
Javaman |
Jul-19-10 10:58 AM |
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Progressives fail because they do not have a loud voice ... |
Trajan |
Jul-19-10 04:49 AM |
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It doesn't help that |
Enthusiast |
Jul-19-10 08:11 AM |
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Heck, "progressive" means building more Walmarts to some people.. |
DCBob |
Jul-19-10 05:29 AM |
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K&R |
Enthusiast |
Jul-19-10 05:46 AM |
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Someone canceled out my Rec too |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-19-10 07:19 AM |
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Mine too. Immediately as I hit recommend, it showed my vote to me, |
mmonk |
Jul-19-10 07:30 AM |
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Apparently someone out |
Enthusiast |
Jul-19-10 08:02 AM |
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I don't see it as defining the label-- it's defining who we are... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-19-10 06:09 AM |
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"pragmatic" |
zipplewrath |
Jul-19-10 07:13 AM |
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Something tells me that those people do not understand what the term "Progressive" means |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-19-10 07:16 AM |
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It is not necessary to label a bill "Progressive" in order to propose it in Congress |
kenny blankenship |
Jul-19-10 07:24 AM |
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It has been redefined by those that aren't. |
mmonk |
Jul-19-10 07:26 AM |
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Not around here |
zipplewrath |
Jul-19-10 09:38 AM |
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It mainly comes from those that know that many who use the label |
mmonk |
Jul-19-10 09:57 AM |
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Why would anyone unrecommend this thread? |
Enthusiast |
Jul-19-10 08:05 AM |
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I'm not sure that there is a good definition for "Progressive." |
MineralMan |
Jul-19-10 08:15 AM |
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Nice job, Steve. Rec'd. nt |
babylonsister |
Jul-19-10 08:15 AM |
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Well loosely, |
ismnotwasm |
Jul-19-10 08:28 AM |
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People can be at different places on the liberal to conservative |
ThomThom |
Jul-19-10 10:02 AM |
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I don't have too much of an argument with the |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-19-10 10:17 AM |
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"Progressive" is a phoney-baloney, triangulated word. |
Romulox |
Jul-19-10 10:36 AM |
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No it's not. It's a perfectly good word. |
reformist2 |
Jul-19-10 10:40 AM |
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Right, and "liberal" means something like "libertarian" in historical context. |
Romulox |
Jul-19-10 10:44 AM |
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Short and long answer of how I define Progressivism |
stevenleser |
Jul-19-10 11:40 AM |
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I think that nails the traditional & historic definition-- the one they taught us in school |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Jul-19-10 02:52 PM |
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K&R |
SunsetDreams |
Jul-19-10 11:54 AM |
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I like your Pragmatic Progressive category. |
bobburgster |
Jul-19-10 02:28 PM |
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I'm not a progressive, because that term is ambiguous. |
LWolf |
Jul-19-10 02:38 PM |
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I get Pragmatic Progressive but it mirrors "Compassionate Conservative" too closely for comfort. |
quiet.american |
Jul-19-10 03:00 PM |
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