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Sat Jul-17-10 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 37. Your one-dimensional interpretation remains the same: |
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"Anyone who approves of the current actions in AfPak are doing so because they love Obama."
If we want to pretend to be reminded of "Republican arguments," perhaps dismissing reasonable people's opinions as cultism would be a place to start.
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| -"...Otherwise we will cut off the heads of your children and will set fire to your daughter." |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 09:23 AM |
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While it's sad, it's really not our problem. |
chrisa |
Jul-17-10 09:33 AM |
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yeah - they're just women. n/t |
mzteris |
Jul-17-10 01:14 PM |
#86 |
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Do you support invasions |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 04:01 PM |
#112 |
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We can't be the world police. |
chrisa |
Jul-17-10 04:53 PM |
#116 |
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We can't help women by continuing to fight. |
Ken Burch |
Jul-17-10 11:05 PM |
#135 |
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Well you could always enlist if you feel that strongly. |
dkf |
Jul-18-10 11:03 AM |
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i'm an old woman - they wouldn't take me. n/t |
mzteris |
Jul-18-10 08:15 PM |
#153 |
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Any kids, nieces or nephews you can send? |
dkf |
Jul-18-10 10:09 PM |
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yeah, cause they're just women... not worth it. gotcha. |
mzteris |
Jul-19-10 08:06 AM |
#155 |
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The most fucking ridiculous aspect of the whole fiasco we have in the occupation, that and our own |
lonestarnot |
Jul-17-10 09:35 AM |
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Prior to 9/11 the most legitimate reason to eliminate the Taliban was womens rights. |
Renew Deal |
Jul-17-10 10:07 AM |
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Incredible isn't it. |
lonestarnot |
Jul-17-10 10:10 AM |
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Something has changed, now we are killing women and children |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-17-10 11:52 AM |
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Apples and oranges... there is no comparison. nt |
SunnySong |
Jul-17-10 12:23 PM |
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why should the US "kill those fucks"? |
another saigon |
Jul-17-10 12:45 PM |
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they should ask pakistan how that has worked out. |
ejpoeta |
Jul-17-10 09:41 AM |
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The US's interests do not involve the issues you cite |
Stinky The Clown |
Jul-17-10 09:43 AM |
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oh, c'mon man. it's totally worth bankrupting this county for! |
KG |
Jul-17-10 09:53 AM |
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The safety and welfare of these people should be an interest to you |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:15 AM |
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The poster didn't say that it wasn't |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 10:42 AM |
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I think if you want to properly debate the issue we need to not dismiss important |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:44 AM |
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There isn't an issue I brung up |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 10:51 AM |
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What matters is that we address the ALL the pros and cons of leaving vs staying |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:53 AM |
#31 |
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Address that to the poster |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 10:58 AM |
#33 |
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So we agree, why don't you help by now jumping in and also addressing |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:59 AM |
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What did we agree on? |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 11:04 AM |
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Nope not interested any more than I was about the Killing Fields or Rawanda... |
SunnySong |
Jul-17-10 12:25 PM |
#77 |
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The US helped to create the Taliban or at least armed and trained them |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 02:33 PM |
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Jul-17-10 07:54 PM |
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we can't make the whole world obey US law ,nt |
Kringle |
Jul-18-10 02:19 AM |
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If anyone cares about the safety and well-being of any |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-18-10 05:50 AM |
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Mladić was certainly pissed off that NATO "invaded," too. |
Robb |
Jul-18-10 08:29 AM |
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It's heart breaking - but I am not convinced occupying them will change it. Nt |
xchrom |
Jul-17-10 09:46 AM |
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isn't not stopping it now. |
KG |
Jul-17-10 09:52 AM |
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Well, the U.S. just had to go in and stop the Soviets from |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-17-10 10:02 AM |
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It was less about putting down "Marxists" in Afghanistan |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:06 AM |
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It was the era of messing around in Latin America and Africa for the same reason |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-17-10 02:04 PM |
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Part of me feels an overpowering sadness for the people of... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-17-10 10:03 AM |
#9 |
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Another Mel Gibson tape? |
Renew Deal |
Jul-17-10 10:04 AM |
#10 |
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Now another point of view |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 10:07 AM |
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Thanks for going right to the source - RAWA. |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-17-10 10:12 AM |
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Those 90 women that were interviewed are actual people that are facing the horrors |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:16 AM |
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Jul-17-10 10:42 AM |
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Forgive me, for they have done much in the past |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 10:44 AM |
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Somebody alert RAWA -- some man on the internet doesn't like them. |
EFerrari |
Jul-17-10 11:49 AM |
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Good to see you! |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:53 AM |
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U.S. troops have raped, tortured and burned women in Afghanistan |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-17-10 12:19 PM |
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"How dare I" what? |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 12:57 PM |
#83 |
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Wrong, they spoke the truth about a corrupt parliament and |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-18-10 05:28 AM |
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Who is "she"? What are you talking about? |
Robb |
Jul-18-10 08:23 AM |
#144 |
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Also, while I'm here |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 01:39 PM |
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It's not an either/or situation imho. RAWA has a good grasp of things |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-17-10 02:17 PM |
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The US Senate is 13% women. That number should also be 50%. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 02:24 PM |
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Women weren't even involved in writing the US constitution. Women were involved in Afghanistan's. |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-17-10 07:06 PM |
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Half of RAWA's leadership quit over the move. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 07:50 PM |
#126 |
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For NJMaverick and Robb... |
Bigmack |
Jul-17-10 10:40 AM |
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+1 |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 10:46 AM |
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The US put these people in danger |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:50 AM |
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After 9 years |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 11:09 AM |
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We put them in danger of the Taliban by removing the Taliban from power. |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 02:32 PM |
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This is not a problem that can be solved militarily |
gratuitous |
Jul-17-10 10:46 AM |
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What is the solution? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:51 AM |
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See, that's where that imagination thing comes in |
gratuitous |
Jul-17-10 11:01 AM |
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then what is the solution? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 11:11 AM |
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How about we bomb them with food... |
Bigmack |
Jul-17-10 07:55 PM |
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The problem is that previous US actions these people in danger |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:47 AM |
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The same arrogance that makes all good people try to do good. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 10:47 AM |
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Oh..Pleezzzze... |
Bigmack |
Jul-17-10 07:42 PM |
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I did no such thing. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 07:58 PM |
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Jul-18-10 10:56 AM |
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Poll: Approval of Afghan War Slips, But U.S. Uneasy About Taliban Talks |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 10:46 AM |
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Disapproval includes those who do not want us to EVER leave. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 10:51 AM |
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Are we worried they'll kill more women than us? |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 10:55 AM |
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Your comments conflict with the fact that the vast majority of civilian deaths Taliban kills |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 10:58 AM |
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Jul-17-10 11:05 AM |
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Jul-17-10 11:13 AM |
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You really don't know what you are talking about, do you? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-18-10 06:13 AM |
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By your yardstick, we're actually killing civilians *less* efficiently. |
Robb |
Jul-18-10 08:26 AM |
#145 |
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Your one-dimensional interpretation remains the same: |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:03 AM |
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You don't know my interpretation. |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 11:12 AM |
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Heh. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:16 AM |
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But it is about you |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 11:19 AM |
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Why just attack me, then, when there's a real debate here? |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:25 AM |
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Answer this: Do you feel we should have stayed in Vietnam? |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 11:26 AM |
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OK. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:28 AM |
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It's not up to us. |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 11:32 AM |
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Can't answer a yes or no question? Cheater. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:37 AM |
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It's a valid answer |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 11:41 AM |
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No, it's a dodge. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:44 AM |
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You've not answered why you support Vietnam war defenses. |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 12:05 PM |
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You don't believe the Taliban should be in power in post-NATO Afghanistan. Good. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 01:18 PM |
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No crickets, just lunch |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 02:24 PM |
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Of course you did not quote me, because I said none of these things. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 03:15 PM |
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I don't think you can answer the question honestly |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 09:30 PM |
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You keep saying I've said something I haven't. I doubt you really want an answer, actually. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:01 PM |
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But that isn't an answer to the question |
Prism |
Jul-18-10 12:05 AM |
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There is no disconnect, unless you believe the situations are the same |
Robb |
Jul-18-10 08:17 AM |
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Actually, you leave the fire entirely unaddressed |
Prism |
Jul-18-10 08:48 AM |
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Wait, you think Bush et al were *really* trying to prosecute the war in Afghanistan? |
Robb |
Jul-18-10 09:01 AM |
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Are we as bad as the Taliban... hell no |
SunnySong |
Jul-17-10 12:26 PM |
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All true. But who, then? |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 01:10 PM |
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we should leave and let them sort it out themselves... |
SunnySong |
Jul-17-10 01:18 PM |
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What about our responsibility for how much we've screwed up their country thus far? |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 01:25 PM |
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1,822 coalition deaths, $284 billion, and 9 years is a pretty good try |
Prism |
Jul-17-10 02:47 PM |
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This is disgusting. |
asdjrocky |
Jul-17-10 11:05 AM |
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I think it speaks to an important issue vis a vis our withdrawal. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:10 AM |
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I'm sure you do. |
asdjrocky |
Jul-17-10 11:14 AM |
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It's a big question. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:20 AM |
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It is a big question. |
asdjrocky |
Jul-17-10 11:22 AM |
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Well, I would too, but we get what we pay for on DU. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:27 AM |
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Jul-17-10 11:31 AM |
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Careful, you might hurt my internet feelings. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:45 AM |
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Jul-17-10 02:12 PM |
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So we should hide the truths we don't like? |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 11:14 AM |
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Yes, that is exactly what they are trying to do |
stevenleser |
Jul-17-10 02:13 PM |
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Having been part of IFOR/KFOR |
Pavulon |
Jul-17-10 11:32 AM |
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Wow, I guess I didn't know that. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:42 AM |
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Back then I had no idea about any of it. |
Pavulon |
Jul-17-10 11:55 AM |
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I'll be seeing some old friends from there later in the month, actually |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 11:58 AM |
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I disagree. |
chrisa |
Jul-17-10 12:47 PM |
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So preventing or stopping genocide is "useless" |
stevenleser |
Jul-17-10 02:19 PM |
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I only said that the poster's two examples would be a waste of |
chrisa |
Jul-17-10 03:38 PM |
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I feel bad about that...but it's not a reason to stay. |
TwilightGardener |
Jul-17-10 12:01 PM |
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NJMaverick, your talking points are right on message |
Mimosa |
Jul-17-10 12:07 PM |
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Nice catch! |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 12:21 PM |
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You suggestion that human beings are just "talking points" |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 12:34 PM |
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Those advocating withdrawal need to be equally as candid, but that isnt happening |
stevenleser |
Jul-17-10 02:21 PM |
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Pentagon Deceit on Media Manipulation Confirmed |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 03:16 PM |
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BEST POST IN THIS THREAD.... (plus alternate link) |
Junkdrawer |
Jul-17-10 05:05 PM |
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Red Cell =/ policy. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 05:23 PM |
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The article in the OP is based on a Human Rights Watch report that came out this week |
Turborama |
Jul-18-10 06:26 AM |
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Afghan's Bravest Woman Calls on U.S. to Leave Afghanistan |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-17-10 12:11 PM |
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I don't think one woman in the US negates the 100s of thousands in danger in Afghanistan |
NJmaverick |
Jul-17-10 12:56 PM |
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Just part of the "ever evolving" reason we are over there. |
L0oniX |
Jul-17-10 01:13 PM |
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Why are we there? |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 01:21 PM |
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That's important stuff |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 01:32 PM |
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Does this phrase ring a bell with anyone here? |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 01:27 PM |
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Haven't we heard this before? |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 01:32 PM |
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Know what the quote the Robbs use in the OP reminds me of? |
robdogbucky |
Jul-17-10 01:52 PM |
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Bastard! Not before we blow those women up with "smart" munitions! |
Oregone |
Jul-17-10 03:30 PM |
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My trouble is, most people didn't care about these women until all their other justifications failed |
Forkboy |
Jul-17-10 03:46 PM |
#111 |
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+1 |
JonLP24 |
Jul-17-10 04:05 PM |
#113 |
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+1 |
Prometheus Bound |
Jul-17-10 04:44 PM |
#114 |
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I don't think that's entirely accurate |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 04:45 PM |
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Not entirely accurate, no. |
Forkboy |
Jul-17-10 05:51 PM |
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Here's a refresher for those who haven't been paying attention. |
Turborama |
Jul-17-10 07:44 PM |
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Not everyone. |
Robb |
Jul-17-10 08:05 PM |
#130 |
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No, it wasn't exactly just "quit and run". That's what the links pertain to... |
Turborama |
Jul-17-10 08:10 PM |
#131 |
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You are making a number of assumptions that are debatable |
EFerrari |
Jul-17-10 11:10 PM |
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Do they care about them now? I doubt it. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-17-10 11:05 PM |
#134 |
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I don't think that's true. |
TwilightGardener |
Jul-18-10 12:55 PM |
#152 |
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I'm amazed this post got so many neg recs |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jul-17-10 05:10 PM |
#118 |
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I'm amazed this post got so many neg recs |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jul-17-10 05:10 PM |
#119 |
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K&R for Women's rights. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-17-10 07:06 PM |
#123 |
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NATO Says Taliban Orders Attacks on Civilians |
Scurrilous |
Jul-18-10 11:36 AM |
#151 |
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