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Fri Jul-16-10 03:00 AM
Response to Reply #36 |
| 39. The sentence isn't hard to understand -- it's simpy not true. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 03:03 AM by BzaDem
As I mentioned above, Obama's main bills passed with exactly the votes required, and not one additional vote in the name of "bipartisanship" (or any other name). The problem with your statement isn't its simplicity, but instead its accuracy (or lack thereof). Your repeating of statements that are not accurate says more about you than it does about Obama.
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| -Why do people keep saying that Obama negotiates too much with Republicans? |
BzaDem |
Jul-15-10 11:29 PM |
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How many times did W get 60 votes? |
Hawkowl |
Jul-15-10 11:32 PM |
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He got 60 or more votes on EVERY SINGLE non-reconciliation bill. |
BzaDem |
Jul-15-10 11:35 PM |
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They don't need 60 votes! |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:52 AM |
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Somehow, I think Bush would have privatized Social Security if he thought he didn't need 60 votes. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:39 AM |
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He couldn't get 51 votes to gut Social Security |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 01:36 PM |
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bush didn't have an obstructionist opposition party to deal with |
fishwax |
Jul-16-10 12:24 AM |
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Bush did get 60+ on a number of votes (the Patriot Act and No Child Left Behind |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:47 AM |
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People who say that there is no difference between the parties are simply spoiled. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:41 AM |
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I am one of those people you speak of |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-15-10 11:41 PM |
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On HCR, he actually didn't get any Republican votes. |
BzaDem |
Jul-15-10 11:50 PM |
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It would seem that you and I will disagree |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-16-10 12:00 AM |
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Your post proves my point exactly. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:11 AM |
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So if what you say is true |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-16-10 12:25 AM |
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What have you been doing for the last several weeks? |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:33 AM |
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LOL- denying the cognitive science and failing to learn the lessons won't "make it stop" |
depakid |
Jul-16-10 12:35 AM |
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It is so funny to hear you blather on about "lessons" |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:44 AM |
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One thing you've proven- |
depakid |
Jul-16-10 03:53 AM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-16-10 01:50 AM |
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They haven't got anything good to complain about. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jul-15-10 11:57 PM |
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We actually say more damning (and quite true) things than that- |
depakid |
Jul-16-10 12:09 AM |
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Yup. Pretty much. |
aquart |
Jul-16-10 12:15 AM |
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Yes, Obama would rather have a bill pass with a concession than have a bill fail without one. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:18 AM |
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My, isn't oversimplification a power choice. |
aquart |
Jul-16-10 12:59 AM |
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Why do you think that there is any negotiation at all? |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:37 AM |
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Some people think the President's job is to set narratives, rather than to actually change anything. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:15 AM |
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"These people" are by far the majority- and reflect how things work in real life |
depakid |
Jul-16-10 12:21 AM |
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No, actually, they aren't. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:28 AM |
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Yes, actually they are, and everybody goddamn well knows it. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-16-10 01:50 AM |
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Your "everybody" = about 15 percent of Liberal Democrats. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:53 AM |
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More DLC hogwash from you. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-16-10 02:42 AM |
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Some people think that the pResident's job is to |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:57 AM |
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We were promised CHANGE, not "narrative." |
aquart |
Jul-16-10 01:00 AM |
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And you got it. Just because you deny it doesn't mean you didn't get it. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:19 AM |
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He campaigned against mandates and then reversed himself after the election. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-16-10 02:39 AM |
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Yes there is something you are missing... |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:45 AM |
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Obama could also bypass Congress and legislate by fiat. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 12:48 AM |
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No, he can't |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:55 AM |
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No, he actually can't do what you are proposing (even if you repeat yourself many times). |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 01:25 AM |
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You need to brush up on your reading and comprehension skills... |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 01:43 PM |
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This post should have come with Dramamine. nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-16-10 01:48 AM |
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Um... because Obama negotiates too much with Republicans? |
jgraz |
Jul-16-10 02:28 AM |
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The sentence isn't hard to understand -- it's simpy not true. |
BzaDem |
Jul-16-10 03:00 AM |
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That reasoning is silly beyond description |
jgraz |
Jul-16-10 04:52 AM |
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Conservadems were fellated, single payer activists were jailed. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-16-10 10:31 AM |
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"Or is there another part of this argument that I'm missing?" |
upi402 |
Jul-16-10 03:24 AM |
#40 |
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