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Sat Jul-17-10 01:52 AM
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Yes, I fuckin' am...I guess. I keep my cats right inside with me. They don't get ripped up by packs of dogs, hit by cars, covered in fleas and ticks, overheated in 95+ temperatures, freeze to death in freezing asshole cold temperatures, possibly abused by some asshole nor do they kill any birds. And a funny thing happened to both the cats and I on our way to evilness...we found this arrangement works for us. My cats do not WANT to go outside. I can leave the door wide open and they'll move AWAY from it. Shit, they don't want to go out THERE and deal with all that stupidity and misery. They'd rather be inside curled up somewhere comfy taking a nap without a care in the world. Yes, I am so 
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| -Why don't wind generators have guards to keep wildlife out of those big blades? |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 03:43 PM |
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Would slow them down (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Jul-15-10 03:44 PM |
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Why not put pictures of Cheney on them to scare birds away? |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-15-10 08:48 PM |
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Why don't oil companies have guards to keep wildlife out of those big oil gushers? |
stevedeshazer |
Jul-15-10 09:17 PM |
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LOL |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:49 PM |
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Wow. |
stevedeshazer |
Jul-16-10 12:17 AM |
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Be glad nobody fell in. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:31 PM |
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OMG |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:40 PM |
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that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman. |
Schema Thing |
Jul-15-10 03:45 PM |
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"that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 03:47 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-15-10 03:53 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-15-10 08:43 PM |
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Glass houses and stones?? |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:32 PM |
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The number of folks who think you just wave a magic wand & *poof* the laws of physics will just |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-15-10 09:07 PM |
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There are patents for such a contraption |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:34 PM |
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False. There are no patents for any such contraption. Link please, to the patent application for a |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:18 PM |
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Pardon me |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 05:00 PM |
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The helix is pretty cool. Have you seen the vibratory generators? |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:18 PM |
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Awesome idea |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:31 PM |
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What amazes me is the number of people who say "it can't be done." |
tabasco |
Jul-16-10 09:38 AM |
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No one said "it can't be done." Your fetish for hurling personal attacks notwithstanding, it has |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:16 PM |
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Hmm. |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:31 PM |
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they are extremely creative. |
Schema Thing |
Jul-15-10 07:03 PM |
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Money. |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 03:45 PM |
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What light weight materials do we have that could be used as a screen |
jwirr |
Jul-15-10 05:35 PM |
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I'm not sure that would solve the problem. |
Igel |
Jul-15-10 10:34 PM |
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That would add a couple of cents to the cost |
mdmc |
Jul-15-10 03:46 PM |
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I'd heard that somebody was working on a paint that would keep the birds and bats away |
Ken Burch |
Jul-15-10 03:46 PM |
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Smells like cougar pee? |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:37 PM |
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Well, if they didn't like cougar pee, that would at least keep them far away ... |
Nihil |
Jul-16-10 11:39 AM |
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Maybe because they would collide with the guard instead. |
drm604 |
Jul-15-10 03:56 PM |
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Why don't houses have barriers around to keep birds from flying into the windows? |
brooklynite |
Jul-15-10 03:57 PM |
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+1000, power lines kills millions of birds, so do glass buildings |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 04:02 PM |
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I'm all for justification |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:35 PM |
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If the birds can't see the windows, they should still see the other bird approaching them. :) |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-15-10 08:46 PM |
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Do most birds fly at that height? |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 04:25 PM |
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I've seen birds thousands of feet above the ground |
MajorChode |
Jul-15-10 04:54 PM |
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the answer is... yes some do |
Johonny |
Jul-15-10 05:12 PM |
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My Mama has birds fly into her windows every week or two. And she has |
Synicus Maximus |
Jul-16-10 09:03 PM |
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Maybe she would agree to try this: |
Contrary1 |
Jul-17-10 02:43 AM |
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I thought the blades turn so slow that they won't hurt birds. |
Lasher |
Jul-15-10 03:59 PM |
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I'm with you, I've never been able to imagine how those slow moving |
Better Today |
Jul-15-10 04:02 PM |
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The bird or bat simply collides with them. |
Statistical |
Jul-15-10 05:00 PM |
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Bats don't die from hitting the blades |
GoCubsGo |
Jul-16-10 04:55 PM |
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They only look slow because they are so massive |
NoNothing |
Jul-15-10 04:11 PM |
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F = mv/t |
Cirque du So-What |
Jul-15-10 04:14 PM |
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I used to think that too, but last week I got to see the newest |
pipi_k |
Jul-15-10 09:22 PM |
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I wonder if they used older model turbines? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jul-16-10 04:26 PM |
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The blade tips travel at about 200 mph. |
alfredo |
Jul-15-10 11:13 PM |
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Old wind turbines had faster turning blades and killed birds. New turbines solve that problem. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-16-10 06:37 PM |
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Oh yeah? |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-10 02:11 AM |
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If this happens so damn much, why aren't the blades drenched with blood and feathers? |
Touchdown |
Jul-15-10 04:14 PM |
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Domestic cats kill more than 100,000,000 birds every year |
Ezlivin |
Jul-15-10 04:18 PM |
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That works out to one bird for every three people, per year. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jul-15-10 05:49 PM |
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Both of your numbers are ridiculous. |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 08:47 PM |
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Yes. Science is bunk |
Ezlivin |
Jul-15-10 09:04 PM |
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What science? |
tabasco |
Jul-16-10 06:26 PM |
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plenty of academic studies |
handmade34 |
Jul-16-10 09:37 PM |
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Thanks! Now tell me why that number should not be reduced. |
tabasco |
Jul-17-10 07:24 AM |
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my post was |
handmade34 |
Jul-17-10 09:04 AM |
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You are quite correct. |
tabasco |
Jul-17-10 07:46 PM |
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Humans kill 9,000,000,000 chickens per year. |
flvegan |
Jul-15-10 09:19 PM |
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Well Silly! If we did that, then we wouldn't need the wind farms! |
Touchdown |
Jul-15-10 10:02 PM |
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LOL |
flvegan |
Jul-15-10 10:28 PM |
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You bring up a problem that can get to extreme levels very quickly |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:21 PM |
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And I have an injured Quail from one of our cats |
Politicalboi |
Jul-15-10 11:17 PM |
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Put bells on them. It works. nt |
Lorien |
Jul-16-10 12:13 AM |
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I tried that one time but they kept pecking me with those sharp little beaks. |
caboose |
Jul-16-10 05:59 PM |
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... |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:10 PM |
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Here's a hint |
kurtzapril4 |
Jul-16-10 09:16 PM |
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How many birds will die due to global climate change if we don't |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:21 PM |
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My car killed a bird about a month ago ... |
JoePhilly |
Jul-17-10 08:15 AM |
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Those wind generators are enormous. |
LostInAnomie |
Jul-15-10 04:23 PM |
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Well how about |
Politicalboi |
Jul-15-10 11:25 PM |
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Can't be done |
sailor65 |
Jul-15-10 04:31 PM |
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Yes! What's the effect on bird populations? And where are the bodies? |
immoderate |
Jul-16-10 04:21 PM |
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Common sense dictates that no such screens be used. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-15-10 04:39 PM |
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Yes. Especially the butterflies. |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:30 PM |
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How about our annual bout with love bugs? |
TexasObserver |
Jul-15-10 05:37 PM |
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Ewww they are so sticky |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:39 PM |
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check out |
plcdude |
Jul-15-10 04:45 PM |
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From your link |
gvstn |
Jul-15-10 04:57 PM |
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The new turbines are much safer than older style |
OhioBlue |
Jul-15-10 04:51 PM |
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Thanks for posting this |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:54 PM |
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That's the story I keep remembering when I hear about wind turbine bird-kills. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-16-10 06:34 PM |
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More bullshit started by the Luddites and coal & oil companies. |
RC |
Jul-15-10 04:54 PM |
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I agree |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:42 PM |
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Nope. |
GoCubsGo |
Jul-16-10 05:00 PM |
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i saw a blade being hauled down the highway today..it was huge |
spanone |
Jul-15-10 04:58 PM |
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Then you would be complaining about the birds killed running into wind guards. |
Statistical |
Jul-15-10 04:59 PM |
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True story: My husband was staying at a hotel on business |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:27 PM |
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Fans generate wind. Turbines generate electricity from wind |
Oregone |
Jul-15-10 05:09 PM |
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The turbine hazzard to birds is an eco-myth that needs to be put down |
MajorChode |
Jul-15-10 05:13 PM |
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Hey! That's in my back yard. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:25 PM |
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These particular ones are just northwest of Albany, TX |
MajorChode |
Jul-16-10 04:49 PM |
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The ones I'm talking about are east of Graham. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-17-10 03:43 PM |
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I've flown over those too |
MajorChode |
Jul-17-10 06:42 PM |
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To keep the birds out, the slots in the guard would have to be tiny. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jul-15-10 05:47 PM |
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Not opposed |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:15 PM |
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Why don't skyscrapers? Cars? Power transimssion towers? or cats? |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-15-10 09:13 PM |
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Because it would severely hamper the ability to generate electricity, for one thing; it would be |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-15-10 09:15 PM |
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You forgot the third kind of reply ... |
Nihil |
Jul-16-10 11:41 AM |
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Thank you very kindly! I appreciate it. |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:52 PM |
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Household cats kill thousands of times more bird than wind turbines |
Juche |
Jul-15-10 09:16 PM |
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Not indoor cats. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 10:38 PM |
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What kind of an evil person would keep their kitty locked up all day? |
slutticus |
Jul-16-10 07:01 PM |
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Am I evil? |
Jamastiene |
Jul-17-10 01:52 AM |
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I don't think it is really a problem since they don't spin that fast |
ThomThom |
Jul-15-10 09:16 PM |
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The "tip speed" of a wind turbine is approximately 200 mph. |
11 Bravo |
Jul-16-10 06:34 PM |
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wow |
ThomThom |
Jul-16-10 06:52 PM |
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They don't kill very many birds |
edgrosvenor |
Jul-15-10 10:52 PM |
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I've heard of other people with problems from low frequency |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:28 PM |
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For the same reason no one is going to harvest the water on the moon and bring it back here. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Jul-15-10 10:54 PM |
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LOL -- one of the best threads ever! |
smalll |
Jul-16-10 04:49 PM |
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Everyone covered it except for mentioning that a guard would need to be cleaned of debris. |
jp11 |
Jul-15-10 10:55 PM |
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That wouldn't be a bad job |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:59 PM |
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Kicking or later viewing eom |
burrowowl |
Jul-15-10 11:43 PM |
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Big Beavis Industry _wants_ those animals to fly into the blades. |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-16-10 12:19 AM |
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It's probably cost prohibitive |
ecmphd |
Jul-16-10 03:31 PM |
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The additional wind load on the supporting pylon structure would be tremendous |
Throd |
Jul-16-10 03:34 PM |
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you are joking, right? |
mcollins |
Jul-16-10 04:51 PM |
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No, I'm not |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 05:03 PM |
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Astrophysics follows the standard laws of reality, |
mcollins |
Jul-16-10 05:05 PM |
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Certainly |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:38 PM |
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I think that the solution to this is fairly easy ... |
JoePhilly |
Jul-16-10 05:02 PM |
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DING! DING! DING! |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:09 PM |
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Because each blade on a 5Mw turbine is 65 meters long. |
Merchant Marine |
Jul-16-10 05:11 PM |
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Who said it had to be steel tubing? |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:05 PM |
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For large scale construction steel is the strongest and most cost effective material |
Merchant Marine |
Jul-17-10 03:00 AM |
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Why don't the oceans have guards to protect fish from drowning in them? |
boppers |
Jul-16-10 05:39 PM |
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Where |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:00 PM |
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That would make them look like something from War of the Worlds, or something |
slackmaster |
Jul-16-10 05:47 PM |
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LOL . . . How many birds are killed everyday by vehicles? Hell I |
B Calm |
Jul-16-10 06:13 PM |
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That has been pointed out and discussed in the thread n/t |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:41 PM |
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Video of bird being hit |
catchnrelease |
Jul-16-10 06:18 PM |
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Oh, but only 7,000 a year |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:53 PM |
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$$$$$ n/t |
11 Bravo |
Jul-16-10 06:19 PM |
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Worse for bats than birds |
JPZenger |
Jul-16-10 08:47 PM |
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I hope that is addressed very soon |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:55 PM |
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Bird deaths per year -- OP please read this |
underpants |
Jul-16-10 09:22 PM |
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I know |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:35 PM |
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Above comment is important to read |
JPZenger |
Jul-17-10 09:24 AM |
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Why don't we mandate that all cats must wear muzzles when outdoors |
Nye Bevan |
Jul-16-10 09:41 PM |
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Muzzled cats |
upi402 |
Jul-17-10 02:02 AM |
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If you are volunteering to muzzle the cats, |
Jamastiene |
Jul-18-10 02:57 PM |
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Well, since we don't have enough predators any more... |
JCMach1 |
Jul-17-10 07:26 AM |
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Is it that big of an issue? If it is, perhaps some sort of "sonic barriers" would work best, aye? |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-17-10 08:43 AM |
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How much wildlife dies because of fossil fuel production and use? |
donco6 |
Jul-17-10 09:07 AM |
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Because bird kills are a bullshit issue and don't happen often ever. |
slampoet |
Jul-17-10 07:56 PM |
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Have you seen the new Verticle Wind Turbines? |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-10 08:03 PM |
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