Synicus Maximus
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Fri Jul-16-10 09:03 PM
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| 121. My Mama has birds fly into her windows every week or two. And she has |
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a one story house with a big plate glass window.
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| -Why don't wind generators have guards to keep wildlife out of those big blades? |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 03:43 PM |
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Would slow them down (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Jul-15-10 03:44 PM |
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Why not put pictures of Cheney on them to scare birds away? |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-15-10 08:48 PM |
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Why don't oil companies have guards to keep wildlife out of those big oil gushers? |
stevedeshazer |
Jul-15-10 09:17 PM |
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LOL |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:49 PM |
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Wow. |
stevedeshazer |
Jul-16-10 12:17 AM |
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Be glad nobody fell in. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:31 PM |
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OMG |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:40 PM |
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that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman. |
Schema Thing |
Jul-15-10 03:45 PM |
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"that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 03:47 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-15-10 03:53 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-15-10 08:43 PM |
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Glass houses and stones?? |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:32 PM |
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The number of folks who think you just wave a magic wand & *poof* the laws of physics will just |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-15-10 09:07 PM |
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There are patents for such a contraption |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:34 PM |
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False. There are no patents for any such contraption. Link please, to the patent application for a |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:18 PM |
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Pardon me |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 05:00 PM |
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The helix is pretty cool. Have you seen the vibratory generators? |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:18 PM |
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Awesome idea |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:31 PM |
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What amazes me is the number of people who say "it can't be done." |
tabasco |
Jul-16-10 09:38 AM |
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No one said "it can't be done." Your fetish for hurling personal attacks notwithstanding, it has |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:16 PM |
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Hmm. |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:31 PM |
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they are extremely creative. |
Schema Thing |
Jul-15-10 07:03 PM |
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Money. |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 03:45 PM |
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What light weight materials do we have that could be used as a screen |
jwirr |
Jul-15-10 05:35 PM |
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I'm not sure that would solve the problem. |
Igel |
Jul-15-10 10:34 PM |
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That would add a couple of cents to the cost |
mdmc |
Jul-15-10 03:46 PM |
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I'd heard that somebody was working on a paint that would keep the birds and bats away |
Ken Burch |
Jul-15-10 03:46 PM |
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Smells like cougar pee? |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:37 PM |
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Well, if they didn't like cougar pee, that would at least keep them far away ... |
Nihil |
Jul-16-10 11:39 AM |
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Maybe because they would collide with the guard instead. |
drm604 |
Jul-15-10 03:56 PM |
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Why don't houses have barriers around to keep birds from flying into the windows? |
brooklynite |
Jul-15-10 03:57 PM |
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+1000, power lines kills millions of birds, so do glass buildings |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 04:02 PM |
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I'm all for justification |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:35 PM |
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If the birds can't see the windows, they should still see the other bird approaching them. :) |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-15-10 08:46 PM |
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Do most birds fly at that height? |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 04:25 PM |
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I've seen birds thousands of feet above the ground |
MajorChode |
Jul-15-10 04:54 PM |
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the answer is... yes some do |
Johonny |
Jul-15-10 05:12 PM |
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My Mama has birds fly into her windows every week or two. And she has |
Synicus Maximus |
Jul-16-10 09:03 PM |
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Maybe she would agree to try this: |
Contrary1 |
Jul-17-10 02:43 AM |
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I thought the blades turn so slow that they won't hurt birds. |
Lasher |
Jul-15-10 03:59 PM |
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I'm with you, I've never been able to imagine how those slow moving |
Better Today |
Jul-15-10 04:02 PM |
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The bird or bat simply collides with them. |
Statistical |
Jul-15-10 05:00 PM |
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Bats don't die from hitting the blades |
GoCubsGo |
Jul-16-10 04:55 PM |
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They only look slow because they are so massive |
NoNothing |
Jul-15-10 04:11 PM |
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F = mv/t |
Cirque du So-What |
Jul-15-10 04:14 PM |
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I used to think that too, but last week I got to see the newest |
pipi_k |
Jul-15-10 09:22 PM |
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I wonder if they used older model turbines? |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jul-16-10 04:26 PM |
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The blade tips travel at about 200 mph. |
alfredo |
Jul-15-10 11:13 PM |
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Old wind turbines had faster turning blades and killed birds. New turbines solve that problem. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-16-10 06:37 PM |
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Oh yeah? |
XemaSab |
Jul-17-10 02:11 AM |
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If this happens so damn much, why aren't the blades drenched with blood and feathers? |
Touchdown |
Jul-15-10 04:14 PM |
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Domestic cats kill more than 100,000,000 birds every year |
Ezlivin |
Jul-15-10 04:18 PM |
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That works out to one bird for every three people, per year. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jul-15-10 05:49 PM |
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Both of your numbers are ridiculous. |
tabasco |
Jul-15-10 08:47 PM |
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Yes. Science is bunk |
Ezlivin |
Jul-15-10 09:04 PM |
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What science? |
tabasco |
Jul-16-10 06:26 PM |
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plenty of academic studies |
handmade34 |
Jul-16-10 09:37 PM |
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Thanks! Now tell me why that number should not be reduced. |
tabasco |
Jul-17-10 07:24 AM |
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my post was |
handmade34 |
Jul-17-10 09:04 AM |
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You are quite correct. |
tabasco |
Jul-17-10 07:46 PM |
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Humans kill 9,000,000,000 chickens per year. |
flvegan |
Jul-15-10 09:19 PM |
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Well Silly! If we did that, then we wouldn't need the wind farms! |
Touchdown |
Jul-15-10 10:02 PM |
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LOL |
flvegan |
Jul-15-10 10:28 PM |
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You bring up a problem that can get to extreme levels very quickly |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:21 PM |
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And I have an injured Quail from one of our cats |
Politicalboi |
Jul-15-10 11:17 PM |
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Put bells on them. It works. nt |
Lorien |
Jul-16-10 12:13 AM |
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I tried that one time but they kept pecking me with those sharp little beaks. |
caboose |
Jul-16-10 05:59 PM |
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... |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:10 PM |
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Here's a hint |
kurtzapril4 |
Jul-16-10 09:16 PM |
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How many birds will die due to global climate change if we don't |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:21 PM |
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My car killed a bird about a month ago ... |
JoePhilly |
Jul-17-10 08:15 AM |
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Those wind generators are enormous. |
LostInAnomie |
Jul-15-10 04:23 PM |
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Well how about |
Politicalboi |
Jul-15-10 11:25 PM |
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Can't be done |
sailor65 |
Jul-15-10 04:31 PM |
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Yes! What's the effect on bird populations? And where are the bodies? |
immoderate |
Jul-16-10 04:21 PM |
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Common sense dictates that no such screens be used. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-15-10 04:39 PM |
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Yes. Especially the butterflies. |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:30 PM |
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How about our annual bout with love bugs? |
TexasObserver |
Jul-15-10 05:37 PM |
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Ewww they are so sticky |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 05:39 PM |
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check out |
plcdude |
Jul-15-10 04:45 PM |
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From your link |
gvstn |
Jul-15-10 04:57 PM |
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The new turbines are much safer than older style |
OhioBlue |
Jul-15-10 04:51 PM |
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Thanks for posting this |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:54 PM |
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That's the story I keep remembering when I hear about wind turbine bird-kills. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-16-10 06:34 PM |
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More bullshit started by the Luddites and coal & oil companies. |
RC |
Jul-15-10 04:54 PM |
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I agree |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:42 PM |
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Nope. |
GoCubsGo |
Jul-16-10 05:00 PM |
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i saw a blade being hauled down the highway today..it was huge |
spanone |
Jul-15-10 04:58 PM |
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Then you would be complaining about the birds killed running into wind guards. |
Statistical |
Jul-15-10 04:59 PM |
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True story: My husband was staying at a hotel on business |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:27 PM |
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Fans generate wind. Turbines generate electricity from wind |
Oregone |
Jul-15-10 05:09 PM |
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The turbine hazzard to birds is an eco-myth that needs to be put down |
MajorChode |
Jul-15-10 05:13 PM |
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Hey! That's in my back yard. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-16-10 03:25 PM |
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These particular ones are just northwest of Albany, TX |
MajorChode |
Jul-16-10 04:49 PM |
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The ones I'm talking about are east of Graham. |
yella_dawg |
Jul-17-10 03:43 PM |
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I've flown over those too |
MajorChode |
Jul-17-10 06:42 PM |
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To keep the birds out, the slots in the guard would have to be tiny. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jul-15-10 05:47 PM |
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Not opposed |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:15 PM |
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Why don't skyscrapers? Cars? Power transimssion towers? or cats? |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-15-10 09:13 PM |
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Because it would severely hamper the ability to generate electricity, for one thing; it would be |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-15-10 09:15 PM |
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You forgot the third kind of reply ... |
Nihil |
Jul-16-10 11:41 AM |
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Thank you very kindly! I appreciate it. |
apocalypsehow |
Jul-16-10 03:52 PM |
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Household cats kill thousands of times more bird than wind turbines |
Juche |
Jul-15-10 09:16 PM |
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Not indoor cats. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 10:38 PM |
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What kind of an evil person would keep their kitty locked up all day? |
slutticus |
Jul-16-10 07:01 PM |
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Am I evil? |
Jamastiene |
Jul-17-10 01:52 AM |
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I don't think it is really a problem since they don't spin that fast |
ThomThom |
Jul-15-10 09:16 PM |
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The "tip speed" of a wind turbine is approximately 200 mph. |
11 Bravo |
Jul-16-10 06:34 PM |
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wow |
ThomThom |
Jul-16-10 06:52 PM |
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They don't kill very many birds |
edgrosvenor |
Jul-15-10 10:52 PM |
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I've heard of other people with problems from low frequency |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-10 06:28 PM |
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For the same reason no one is going to harvest the water on the moon and bring it back here. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Jul-15-10 10:54 PM |
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LOL -- one of the best threads ever! |
smalll |
Jul-16-10 04:49 PM |
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Everyone covered it except for mentioning that a guard would need to be cleaned of debris. |
jp11 |
Jul-15-10 10:55 PM |
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That wouldn't be a bad job |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 10:59 PM |
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Kicking or later viewing eom |
burrowowl |
Jul-15-10 11:43 PM |
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Big Beavis Industry _wants_ those animals to fly into the blades. |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-16-10 12:19 AM |
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It's probably cost prohibitive |
ecmphd |
Jul-16-10 03:31 PM |
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The additional wind load on the supporting pylon structure would be tremendous |
Throd |
Jul-16-10 03:34 PM |
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you are joking, right? |
mcollins |
Jul-16-10 04:51 PM |
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No, I'm not |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 05:03 PM |
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Astrophysics follows the standard laws of reality, |
mcollins |
Jul-16-10 05:05 PM |
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Certainly |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:38 PM |
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I think that the solution to this is fairly easy ... |
JoePhilly |
Jul-16-10 05:02 PM |
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DING! DING! DING! |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:09 PM |
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Because each blade on a 5Mw turbine is 65 meters long. |
Merchant Marine |
Jul-16-10 05:11 PM |
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Who said it had to be steel tubing? |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:05 PM |
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For large scale construction steel is the strongest and most cost effective material |
Merchant Marine |
Jul-17-10 03:00 AM |
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Why don't the oceans have guards to protect fish from drowning in them? |
boppers |
Jul-16-10 05:39 PM |
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Where |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:00 PM |
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That would make them look like something from War of the Worlds, or something |
slackmaster |
Jul-16-10 05:47 PM |
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LOL . . . How many birds are killed everyday by vehicles? Hell I |
B Calm |
Jul-16-10 06:13 PM |
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That has been pointed out and discussed in the thread n/t |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:41 PM |
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Video of bird being hit |
catchnrelease |
Jul-16-10 06:18 PM |
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Oh, but only 7,000 a year |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:53 PM |
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$$$$$ n/t |
11 Bravo |
Jul-16-10 06:19 PM |
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Worse for bats than birds |
JPZenger |
Jul-16-10 08:47 PM |
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I hope that is addressed very soon |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 08:55 PM |
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Bird deaths per year -- OP please read this |
underpants |
Jul-16-10 09:22 PM |
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I know |
texastoast |
Jul-16-10 09:35 PM |
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Above comment is important to read |
JPZenger |
Jul-17-10 09:24 AM |
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Why don't we mandate that all cats must wear muzzles when outdoors |
Nye Bevan |
Jul-16-10 09:41 PM |
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Muzzled cats |
upi402 |
Jul-17-10 02:02 AM |
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If you are volunteering to muzzle the cats, |
Jamastiene |
Jul-18-10 02:57 PM |
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Well, since we don't have enough predators any more... |
JCMach1 |
Jul-17-10 07:26 AM |
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Is it that big of an issue? If it is, perhaps some sort of "sonic barriers" would work best, aye? |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-17-10 08:43 AM |
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How much wildlife dies because of fossil fuel production and use? |
donco6 |
Jul-17-10 09:07 AM |
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Because bird kills are a bullshit issue and don't happen often ever. |
slampoet |
Jul-17-10 07:56 PM |
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Have you seen the new Verticle Wind Turbines? |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-10 08:03 PM |
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