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10. I thought the blades turn so slow that they won't hurt birds.
Maybe I'm wrong about that.
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  -Why don't wind generators have guards to keep wildlife out of those big blades? texastoast  Jul-15-10 03:43 PM   #0 
  - Would slow them down (nt)  The Straight Story   Jul-15-10 03:44 PM   #1 
  - Why not put pictures of Cheney on them to scare birds away?  AnArmyVeteran   Jul-15-10 08:48 PM   #44 
  - Why don't oil companies have guards to keep wildlife out of those big oil gushers?  stevedeshazer   Jul-15-10 09:17 PM   #51 
     - LOL  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:49 PM   #62 
        - Wow.  stevedeshazer   Jul-16-10 12:17 AM   #73 
        - Be glad nobody fell in.  yella_dawg   Jul-16-10 03:31 PM   #81 
           - OMG  texastoast   Jul-16-10 08:40 PM   #115 
  - that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman.  Schema Thing   Jul-15-10 03:45 PM   #2 
  - "that would not be "common sense" to a mechanical engineer or craftsman  tabasco   Jul-15-10 03:47 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-15-10 03:53 PM   #7 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-15-10 08:43 PM   #41 
     - Glass houses and stones??  yella_dawg   Jul-16-10 03:32 PM   #83 
     - The number of folks who think you just wave a magic wand & *poof* the laws of physics will just  apocalypsehow   Jul-15-10 09:07 PM   #46 
        - There are patents for such a contraption  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:34 PM   #58 
        - False. There are no patents for any such contraption. Link please, to the patent application for a  apocalypsehow   Jul-16-10 03:18 PM   #79 
        - Pardon me  texastoast   Jul-16-10 05:00 PM   #93 
        - The helix is pretty cool. Have you seen the vibratory generators?  hedgehog   Jul-16-10 06:18 PM   #102 
           - Awesome idea  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:31 PM   #127 
        - What amazes me is the number of people who say "it can't be done."  tabasco   Jul-16-10 09:38 AM   #75 
           - No one said "it can't be done." Your fetish for hurling personal attacks notwithstanding, it has  apocalypsehow   Jul-16-10 03:16 PM   #78 
  - Hmm.  texastoast   Jul-15-10 05:31 PM   #33 
     - they are extremely creative.  Schema Thing   Jul-15-10 07:03 PM   #40 
  - Money.  tabasco   Jul-15-10 03:45 PM   #3 
  - What light weight materials do we have that could be used as a screen  jwirr   Jul-15-10 05:35 PM   #35 
  - I'm not sure that would solve the problem.  Igel   Jul-15-10 10:34 PM   #59 
  - That would add a couple of cents to the cost  mdmc   Jul-15-10 03:46 PM   #4 
  - I'd heard that somebody was working on a paint that would keep the birds and bats away  Ken Burch   Jul-15-10 03:46 PM   #5 
  - Smells like cougar pee?  texastoast   Jul-15-10 05:37 PM   # 
     - Well, if they didn't like cougar pee, that would at least keep them far away ...  Nihil   Jul-16-10 11:39 AM   #76 
  - Maybe because they would collide with the guard instead.  drm604   Jul-15-10 03:56 PM   #8 
  - Why don't houses have barriers around to keep birds from flying into the windows?  brooklynite   Jul-15-10 03:57 PM   #9 
  - +1000, power lines kills millions of birds, so do glass buildings  KansasVoter   Jul-15-10 04:02 PM   #12 
  - I'm all for justification  texastoast   Jul-15-10 05:35 PM   #34 
  - If the birds can't see the windows, they should still see the other bird approaching them. :)  AnArmyVeteran   Jul-15-10 08:46 PM   #42 
  - Do most birds fly at that height?  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 04:25 PM   #18 
     - I've seen birds thousands of feet above the ground  MajorChode   Jul-15-10 04:54 PM   #23 
     - the answer is... yes some do  Johonny   Jul-15-10 05:12 PM   #30 
     - My Mama has birds fly into her windows every week or two. And she has  Synicus Maximus   Jul-16-10 09:03 PM   #121 
        - Maybe she would agree to try this:  Contrary1   Jul-17-10 02:43 AM   #134 
  - I thought the blades turn so slow that they won't hurt birds.  Lasher   Jul-15-10 03:59 PM   #10 
  - I'm with you, I've never been able to imagine how those slow moving  Better Today   Jul-15-10 04:02 PM   #11 
  - The bird or bat simply collides with them.  Statistical   Jul-15-10 05:00 PM   #28 
  - Bats don't die from hitting the blades  GoCubsGo   Jul-16-10 04:55 PM   #91 
  - They only look slow because they are so massive  NoNothing   Jul-15-10 04:11 PM   #13 
  - F = mv/t  Cirque du So-What   Jul-15-10 04:14 PM   #14 
  - I used to think that too, but last week I got to see the newest  pipi_k   Jul-15-10 09:22 PM   #53 
  - I wonder if they used older model turbines?  Lone_Star_Dem   Jul-16-10 04:26 PM   #87 
  - The blade tips travel at about 200 mph.  alfredo   Jul-15-10 11:13 PM   #68 
  - Old wind turbines had faster turning blades and killed birds. New turbines solve that problem.  backscatter712   Jul-16-10 06:37 PM   #111 
     - Oh yeah?  XemaSab   Jul-17-10 02:11 AM   #133 
  - If this happens so damn much, why aren't the blades drenched with blood and feathers?  Touchdown   Jul-15-10 04:14 PM   #15 
  - Domestic cats kill more than 100,000,000 birds every year  Ezlivin   Jul-15-10 04:18 PM   #16 
  - That works out to one bird for every three people, per year.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-15-10 05:49 PM   #39 
  - Both of your numbers are ridiculous.  tabasco   Jul-15-10 08:47 PM   #43 
  - Yes. Science is bunk  Ezlivin   Jul-15-10 09:04 PM   #45 
     - What science?  tabasco   Jul-16-10 06:26 PM   #106 
        - plenty of academic studies  handmade34   Jul-16-10 09:37 PM   #129 
           - Thanks! Now tell me why that number should not be reduced.  tabasco   Jul-17-10 07:24 AM   #136 
              - my post was  handmade34   Jul-17-10 09:04 AM   #140 
                 - You are quite correct.  tabasco   Jul-17-10 07:46 PM   #145 
  - Humans kill 9,000,000,000 chickens per year.  flvegan   Jul-15-10 09:19 PM   #52 
  - Well Silly! If we did that, then we wouldn't need the wind farms!  Touchdown   Jul-15-10 10:02 PM   #54 
     - LOL  flvegan   Jul-15-10 10:28 PM   #57 
  - You bring up a problem that can get to extreme levels very quickly  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:21 PM   #56 
  - And I have an injured Quail from one of our cats  Politicalboi   Jul-15-10 11:17 PM   #69 
  - Put bells on them. It works. nt  Lorien   Jul-16-10 12:13 AM   #72 
  - I tried that one time but they kept pecking me with those sharp little beaks.  caboose   Jul-16-10 05:59 PM   #100 
     - ...  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:10 PM   #124 
  - Here's a hint  kurtzapril4   Jul-16-10 09:16 PM   #125 
  - How many birds will die due to global climate change if we don't  hedgehog   Jul-16-10 06:21 PM   #105 
  - My car killed a bird about a month ago ...  JoePhilly   Jul-17-10 08:15 AM   #138 
  - Those wind generators are enormous.  LostInAnomie   Jul-15-10 04:23 PM   #17 
  - Well how about  Politicalboi   Jul-15-10 11:25 PM   #70 
  - Can't be done  sailor65   Jul-15-10 04:31 PM   #19 
  - Yes! What's the effect on bird populations? And where are the bodies?  immoderate   Jul-16-10 04:21 PM   #86 
  - Common sense dictates that no such screens be used.  TexasObserver   Jul-15-10 04:39 PM   #20 
  - Yes. Especially the butterflies.  texastoast   Jul-15-10 05:30 PM   #32 
     - How about our annual bout with love bugs?  TexasObserver   Jul-15-10 05:37 PM   #36 
        - Ewww they are so sticky  texastoast   Jul-15-10 05:39 PM   #37 
  - check out  plcdude   Jul-15-10 04:45 PM   #21 
  - From your link  gvstn   Jul-15-10 04:57 PM   #25 
  - The new turbines are much safer than older style  OhioBlue   Jul-15-10 04:51 PM   #22 
  - Thanks for posting this  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:54 PM   #64 
  - That's the story I keep remembering when I hear about wind turbine bird-kills.  backscatter712   Jul-16-10 06:34 PM   #109 
  - More bullshit started by the Luddites and coal & oil companies.  RC   Jul-15-10 04:54 PM   #24 
  - I agree  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:42 PM   #61 
  - Nope.  GoCubsGo   Jul-16-10 05:00 PM   #92 
  - i saw a blade being hauled down the highway today..it was huge  spanone   Jul-15-10 04:58 PM   #26 
  - Then you would be complaining about the birds killed running into wind guards.  Statistical   Jul-15-10 04:59 PM   #27 
  - True story: My husband was staying at a hotel on business  hedgehog   Jul-16-10 06:27 PM   #107 
  - Fans generate wind. Turbines generate electricity from wind  Oregone   Jul-15-10 05:09 PM   #29 
  - The turbine hazzard to birds is an eco-myth that needs to be put down  MajorChode   Jul-15-10 05:13 PM   #31 
  - Hey! That's in my back yard.  yella_dawg   Jul-16-10 03:25 PM   #80 
     - These particular ones are just northwest of Albany, TX  MajorChode   Jul-16-10 04:49 PM   #89 
        - The ones I'm talking about are east of Graham.  yella_dawg   Jul-17-10 03:43 PM   #143 
           - I've flown over those too  MajorChode   Jul-17-10 06:42 PM   #144 
  - To keep the birds out, the slots in the guard would have to be tiny.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-15-10 05:47 PM   #38 
  - Not opposed  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:15 PM   #55 
  - Why don't skyscrapers? Cars? Power transimssion towers? or cats?  Canuckistanian   Jul-15-10 09:13 PM   #47 
  - Because it would severely hamper the ability to generate electricity, for one thing; it would be  apocalypsehow   Jul-15-10 09:15 PM   #48 
  - You forgot the third kind of reply ...  Nihil   Jul-16-10 11:41 AM   #77 
     - Thank you very kindly! I appreciate it.  apocalypsehow   Jul-16-10 03:52 PM   #85 
  - Household cats kill thousands of times more bird than wind turbines  Juche   Jul-15-10 09:16 PM   #49 
  - Not indoor cats. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 10:38 PM   #60 
     - What kind of an evil person would keep their kitty locked up all day?  slutticus   Jul-16-10 07:01 PM   #113 
        - Am I evil?  Jamastiene   Jul-17-10 01:52 AM   #131 
  - I don't think it is really a problem since they don't spin that fast  ThomThom   Jul-15-10 09:16 PM   #50 
  - The "tip speed" of a wind turbine is approximately 200 mph.  11 Bravo   Jul-16-10 06:34 PM   #110 
     - wow  ThomThom   Jul-16-10 06:52 PM   #112 
  - They don't kill very many birds  edgrosvenor   Jul-15-10 10:52 PM   #63 
  - I've heard of other people with problems from low frequency  hedgehog   Jul-16-10 06:28 PM   #108 
  - For the same reason no one is going to harvest the water on the moon and bring it back here.  A HERETIC I AM   Jul-15-10 10:54 PM   #65 
  - LOL -- one of the best threads ever!  smalll   Jul-16-10 04:49 PM   #88 
  - Everyone covered it except for mentioning that a guard would need to be cleaned of debris.  jp11   Jul-15-10 10:55 PM   #66 
  - That wouldn't be a bad job  texastoast   Jul-15-10 10:59 PM   #67 
  - Kicking or later viewing eom  burrowowl   Jul-15-10 11:43 PM   #71 
  - Big Beavis Industry _wants_ those animals to fly into the blades.  Poll_Blind   Jul-16-10 12:19 AM   #74 
  - It's probably cost prohibitive  ecmphd   Jul-16-10 03:31 PM   #82 
  - The additional wind load on the supporting pylon structure would be tremendous  Throd   Jul-16-10 03:34 PM   #84 
  - you are joking, right?  mcollins   Jul-16-10 04:51 PM   #90 
  - No, I'm not  texastoast   Jul-16-10 05:03 PM   #95 
     - Astrophysics follows the standard laws of reality,  mcollins   Jul-16-10 05:05 PM   #96 
        - Certainly  texastoast   Jul-16-10 08:38 PM   #114 
  - I think that the solution to this is fairly easy ...  JoePhilly   Jul-16-10 05:02 PM   #94 
  - DING! DING! DING!  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:09 PM   #123 
  - Because each blade on a 5Mw turbine is 65 meters long.  Merchant Marine   Jul-16-10 05:11 PM   #97 
  - Who said it had to be steel tubing?  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:05 PM   #122 
     - For large scale construction steel is the strongest and most cost effective material  Merchant Marine   Jul-17-10 03:00 AM   #135 
  - Why don't the oceans have guards to protect fish from drowning in them?  boppers   Jul-16-10 05:39 PM   #98 
  - Where  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:00 PM   #120 
  - That would make them look like something from War of the Worlds, or something  slackmaster   Jul-16-10 05:47 PM   #99 
  - LOL . . . How many birds are killed everyday by vehicles? Hell I  B Calm   Jul-16-10 06:13 PM   #101 
  - That has been pointed out and discussed in the thread n/t  texastoast   Jul-16-10 08:41 PM   #116 
  - Video of bird being hit  catchnrelease   Jul-16-10 06:18 PM   #103 
  - Oh, but only 7,000 a year  texastoast   Jul-16-10 08:53 PM   #118 
  - $$$$$ n/t  11 Bravo   Jul-16-10 06:19 PM   #104 
  - Worse for bats than birds  JPZenger   Jul-16-10 08:47 PM   #117 
  - I hope that is addressed very soon  texastoast   Jul-16-10 08:55 PM   #119 
  - Bird deaths per year -- OP please read this  underpants   Jul-16-10 09:22 PM   #126 
  - I know  texastoast   Jul-16-10 09:35 PM   #128 
  - Above comment is important to read  JPZenger   Jul-17-10 09:24 AM   #142 
  - Why don't we mandate that all cats must wear muzzles when outdoors  Nye Bevan   Jul-16-10 09:41 PM   #130 
  - Muzzled cats  upi402   Jul-17-10 02:02 AM   #132 
  - If you are volunteering to muzzle the cats,  Jamastiene   Jul-18-10 02:57 PM   #148 
  - Well, since we don't have enough predators any more...  JCMach1   Jul-17-10 07:26 AM   #137 
  - Is it that big of an issue? If it is, perhaps some sort of "sonic barriers" would work best, aye?  Regret My New Name   Jul-17-10 08:43 AM   #139 
  - How much wildlife dies because of fossil fuel production and use?  donco6   Jul-17-10 09:07 AM   #141 
  - Because bird kills are a bullshit issue and don't happen often ever.  slampoet   Jul-17-10 07:56 PM   #146 
  - Have you seen the new Verticle Wind Turbines?  lib2DaBone   Jul-17-10 08:03 PM   #147 
 

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