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| -Yes, Mel Gibson is a turd, but..... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-15-10 11:42 AM |
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agreed. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-10 11:43 AM |
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Wait!!! I thought you LIKED surveillance??? n/t |
msanthrope |
Jul-15-10 08:45 PM |
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I see your point on it being leaked, however, was she the one leaking? |
joeybee12 |
Jul-15-10 11:44 AM |
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She says she taped him because she was afraid of him killing her |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:12 PM |
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Yeah, in this case, I have to give her leeway... |
joeybee12 |
Jul-15-10 12:35 PM |
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Actually...He basically told her he could...The last tapes revealed him waving a gun at her |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 03:21 PM |
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Check this one out, kids. |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:47 PM |
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omfg |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 08:44 PM |
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Quite amazing, isn't it?...don't believe I've ever heard ANYTHING like it. n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 07:51 AM |
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not just "rich movie guy" entitlement |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 06:55 AM |
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I believe that! n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 07:50 AM |
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What do you know of movie people? |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 08:27 AM |
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What do you know? |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 07:32 AM |
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Privacy |
texastoast |
Jul-15-10 11:44 AM |
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Yes, domestic abuse used to be deemed "privacy," particularly by the men doing the abusing. |
CTyankee |
Jul-16-10 07:39 AM |
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Her tapes are inadmissable evidence under California law |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-15-10 11:45 AM |
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Ding ding |
malaise |
Jul-15-10 11:47 AM |
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You have got to be kidding. Tapes made purposefully for release |
Curmudgeoness |
Jul-15-10 12:01 PM |
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Bingo. I was able to use the answering machine tape from my office phone |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 12:05 PM |
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Why didn't she just hang up and call the cops, then? |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-15-10 12:09 PM |
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"She didn't sound like a weak and submissive woman who was bullied." |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:14 PM |
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it was clear from the audio that she was just on the line to draw him out |
mkultra |
Jul-15-10 02:51 PM |
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There were many threats of violence. |
EOTE |
Jul-15-10 03:19 PM |
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"Building the weapon" WAS protecting herself |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 03:37 PM |
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If there was nothing there to draw out, she would have failed. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 03:38 PM |
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well thats a falsehood |
mkultra |
Jul-16-10 08:58 AM |
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How is it a falsehood? |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 09:02 AM |
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well, bear in mind that i havent listended to the tapes |
mkultra |
Jul-16-10 09:57 AM |
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It has also been reported that Mel's camp offered her 20 million dollars for partial custody of |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 07:48 AM |
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or they are engandged in an ugly fight and she is holding the kids over his head |
mkultra |
Jul-17-10 10:47 AM |
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It's one kid and that's possible... |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 12:25 PM |
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What would hanging up and calling the cops do for her? |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 12:14 PM |
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Hate to keep beating on you, but you are just not getting it. |
Curmudgeoness |
Jul-15-10 12:22 PM |
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Seriously |
Dorian Gray |
Jul-15-10 04:38 PM |
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LOL! You're kidding, right? |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 12:57 PM |
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EXACTLY. Look at Whoopi Goldberg on "The View": "This is not the Mel I know. He is not a racist." |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-10 03:24 PM |
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Look at OJ -- the cops DID come |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 03:39 PM |
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Ok I will give you a real world example |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-15-10 01:11 PM |
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Wow! |
Spazito |
Jul-15-10 03:04 PM |
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Oh, yes, the cops. Like the ones who rescued Nicole Simpson? |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-10 03:22 PM |
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Yeah.....Like Nicole Simpson did. |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:06 PM |
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Are only "weak and submissive women" believable in your view? |
Heidi |
Jul-16-10 08:13 AM |
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Precisely.....And as to the "goldigger" stuff...I don't think so and I'll tell you why.. |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 03:27 PM |
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Young Turks nailed it last year in video. Golddigger |
Catherina |
Jul-16-10 10:51 AM |
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I Got Minorly Cruficied For Implying This a Couple of Days Ago |
NashVegas |
Jul-16-10 01:41 PM |
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So now she's a whore, too -- wtf |
LostinVA |
Jul-17-10 08:41 AM |
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For multi-millionaires who complain about those supposed "gold diggers" |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 09:23 AM |
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that asshole Cenk blames her that Mel cheated on his wife? what a fuckung ass |
bettyellen |
Jul-16-10 06:52 PM |
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Guess what?...The woman in the Cenk tapes is NOT the woman in the current custody case |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 09:03 AM |
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And, she also moved his lips, tongue and jaw with the hand she shoved... |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-15-10 12:07 PM |
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I read that even the Teabaggers have gone thumbs down on him... |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 03:34 PM |
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Not true -- domestic violence victims are allowed to tape calls |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:11 PM |
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Thank you for finding this. |
myrna minx |
Jul-16-10 09:10 AM |
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They are admissible |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:27 PM |
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I see that now |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-15-10 12:37 PM |
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I didn't know until I heard it on TV the other day |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:38 PM |
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blame the victim |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 12:53 PM |
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Actually you can record a person who is threatening you or your family |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jul-15-10 01:09 PM |
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Not true. Probably will be admitted into evidence, if it comes to that. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-15-10 01:10 PM |
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Whatever. I don't really care if Gibson loses his fortune. |
Arkana |
Jul-15-10 03:36 PM |
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They are admissable under certain circumstances...In any case, |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:03 PM |
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wrong. tapes okay if attempting to prove admission of a crime or threat of future crimes |
elehhhhna |
Jul-15-10 08:24 PM |
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Her tapes are not inadmissable under CA law. |
msanthrope |
Jul-15-10 08:39 PM |
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I won't be shedding any tears over that, however. |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-16-10 08:07 AM |
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That's why I started a thread days ago |
malaise |
Jul-15-10 11:46 AM |
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How can you not believe the tapes??? |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:14 PM |
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You know, I've wondered this for years: why is it that some loathsome scumbags |
shrike |
Jul-15-10 12:25 PM |
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Good post |
malaise |
Jul-15-10 12:34 PM |
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"Just ess with certain vested interests and they won't stop until you're history. " |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:58 PM |
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Probably neither. |
shrike |
Jul-15-10 01:23 PM |
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Read again: She turned down TWENTY MILLION dollars |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 08:23 PM |
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I'm not talking about her |
shrike |
Jul-15-10 10:34 PM |
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I agree with you maybe 50 percent....Even if Mel were still "the sexiest man alive" |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 07:34 AM |
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When I said 'old,' I meant in Hollywood terms |
shrike |
Jul-16-10 08:46 AM |
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I meant in Hollywood terms too, but no matter...I agree that |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 08:53 AM |
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What "bigger story" is that? n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:13 PM |
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Hollywood Is Ready to Let Go of Mel |
NashVegas |
Jul-16-10 01:47 PM |
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Jul-15-10 12:54 PM |
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I'm on Oksana's side, but I have to tell you this tactic is lame. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-15-10 01:04 PM |
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No, it's based on what this poster has said in the past nt |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 01:07 PM |
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Wrong....She was with him for three years -- had his child and |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 03:43 PM |
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+1 "gold digger" |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 04:54 PM |
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+ 10..."Denier" |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:01 PM |
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Ummmm....What part of "she turned down 20 million dollars" do you not understand? |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 07:23 PM |
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Why in the world are you addressing that to me??? |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 10:41 PM |
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LostinVa, I apologize!....That was addressed that to you in error! |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 07:49 AM |
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No problem at all! |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 08:58 AM |
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Thanks, Lost.. |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 11:06 AM |
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I agree with you. |
Little Star |
Jul-15-10 09:05 PM |
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Holy fucksticks on acid |
Seneca |
Jul-16-10 01:19 AM |
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Seriously -- w.t.f. |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 06:06 AM |
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Another one in the "it's ok to beat women" column nt |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 06:51 AM |
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'Mel Gibson has Jesus envy' |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jul-15-10 11:48 AM |
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Somebody should remind Mel |
Ken Burch |
Jul-15-10 11:52 AM |
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Jesus wasn't a Christian and a renegade Jew according to the leadership back then |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jul-15-10 12:08 PM |
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Mel IS a whackjob because of his "deeds" more than his "creeds" |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 07:20 PM |
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Yes...I'm not sure how this asshole missed. n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:14 PM |
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That is not correct. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 08:48 AM |
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Gibson DID produce Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11"! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-15-10 11:55 AM |
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Not to mention 'The Passion of the Christ (2004)' |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-15-10 12:14 PM |
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"Aramaic", not to be confused with "Arabic", was the language of the region at one time, |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-15-10 12:28 PM |
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Yes, being a Jew I know the difference, since part of |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-15-10 12:35 PM |
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Are those ancestors present day Berbers or Arabs or are Berbers actually ethnic Arabs? |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-15-10 04:25 PM |
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Someone else probably would have if he wouldn't have. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-15-10 01:00 PM |
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No one else wanted to produce it, that's the point! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-16-10 08:05 AM |
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All of your facts are wrong. Mel did not produce that film. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 09:01 AM |
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Thanks -- I was wondering about that |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 09:04 AM |
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Not only did Mel not produce it |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 09:21 AM |
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Interesting... |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 09:51 AM |
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Show me your link! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-17-10 08:04 AM |
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You are correct! Gibson DID turn it down under pressure from Jeb Bush! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-17-10 08:25 AM |
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Someone else did, and Mel did not produce that film. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 09:38 AM |
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Incorrect, totally. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 08:58 AM |
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Maybe she shouldn't have given them to the press (assuming she did I'm not 100% on that), but he is |
uncommon |
Jul-15-10 11:57 AM |
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Ya know -- there is a price for fame... |
Raine1967 |
Jul-15-10 11:58 AM |
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In my State this is perfectly legal as long as one of the two knows about the recording. |
slampoet |
Jul-15-10 12:05 PM |
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In addition... |
Feron |
Jul-15-10 02:56 PM |
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I hope it bounces Gibson off the bottom hard enough |
Warpy |
Jul-15-10 12:10 PM |
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Well said |
plcdude |
Jul-15-10 03:12 PM |
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He was diagnosed as bi-polar in '06 or '08....That plus the booze |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:18 PM |
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There's a lot of bipolar disease in my family |
Warpy |
Jul-16-10 01:30 PM |
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It's all well and good to feel bad for him, but he has visitation |
LisaL |
Jul-16-10 06:35 PM |
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How about the people around him? |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 07:27 AM |
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Light switch mentality |
Warpy |
Jul-17-10 10:52 AM |
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Save your "light switch mentality" ... |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 12:27 PM |
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Because taping a conversation is totally worse than beating up your partner. |
lightningandsnow |
Jul-15-10 12:27 PM |
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Dontcha know yet, Lightening?...This is just some "goldigger" up against a popular MAN.. |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 06:55 PM |
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Right. And until we can get some semblance of sense into these guys, |
CTyankee |
Jul-16-10 07:56 AM |
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Damned right....I'm with you all the way. n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 08:38 AM |
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Perfectly legal for her to do it |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 12:28 PM |
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Maybe she is a Republican... everyone knows it's ok if you are a Republican. |
Winterblues |
Jul-15-10 12:54 PM |
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Another abuser excuser heard from nt |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 01:02 PM |
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Are you referring to yourself? |
Winterblues |
Jul-15-10 02:49 PM |
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People like Mel thrive on keeping all this stuff private. |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-15-10 12:59 PM |
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+ 100....to paraphrase another blogger on the subject |
whathehell |
Jul-15-10 05:20 PM |
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Why is it that people that are assholes |
Texasgal |
Jul-15-10 01:03 PM |
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These are not mutually exclusive categories. nt |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 01:36 PM |
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I'm voting both |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 10:59 PM |
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Mel Gibson is a turd, period! No ifs, ands or buts. |
Individualist |
Jul-15-10 03:18 PM |
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So the "leak" bothers you more than the insane rants, the threats, the actual violence? |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-10 03:20 PM |
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How about some courtesy.... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-16-10 12:27 AM |
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I understand why she did it, but... |
Freetradesucks |
Jul-15-10 08:51 PM |
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Of course it should -- it is evidence |
LostinVA |
Jul-15-10 10:42 PM |
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wtf indeed |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 10:58 PM |
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Well, some say Oskana is a golddigger and has implants |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 06:04 AM |
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we must have our priorities screwed up or something |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 05:16 PM |
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If you don't want it used against you, DON'T SAY IT IN THE FIRST PLACE |
WolverineDG |
Jul-15-10 10:56 PM |
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Awww, gee that's tough. |
CTyankee |
Jul-16-10 08:01 AM |
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Do you know what "evidence" means? |
WinkyDink |
Jul-16-10 08:48 AM |
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Mel Gibson is a turd. Period. |
applegrove |
Jul-15-10 10:51 PM |
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Why not tape him? Imagine how much shit he spewed b4 she started recording! |
Lil Missy |
Jul-16-10 01:06 AM |
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Yes...This was in the third year of their relationship. n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-16-10 07:53 AM |
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So, can he sue her for making and releasing the tapes? |
JVS |
Jul-16-10 01:24 AM |
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As stated in this thread and in my OP, it's legal for here to have made these tapes |
LostinVA |
Jul-16-10 06:08 AM |
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Oh I'm sure he can & will try (abusive assholes are like that) |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 06:54 AM |
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From a moral ethical stand point you may have a point But if she felt her life was endanger |
TNLib |
Jul-16-10 07:33 AM |
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"Her voice is crystal clear, while his is not" because some is from her phone. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-16-10 08:53 AM |
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I do not know what the laws are in CA, but... |
HardWorkingDem |
Jul-16-10 11:17 AM |
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And we don't know what she said on the calls she didn't record. |
Radical Activist |
Jul-16-10 08:59 AM |
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See my post above. Her voice is clear because she is speaking into her phone. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-16-10 09:13 AM |
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yeah, she so made up getting beaten in the face |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 05:20 PM |
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Ouch. |
Radical Activist |
Jul-16-10 06:28 PM |
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It's always a good idea not to act like a psychopath during one's private conversations |
DefenseLawyer |
Jul-16-10 09:11 AM |
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The Mel Gibson issue Post of the Day. +1 |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-16-10 05:28 PM |
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I note how many defenders of Mel on this thread are making |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-10 09:24 AM |
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my fave is the "Mystery Man" they put on ET |
WolverineDG |
Jul-16-10 05:23 PM |
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Jul-16-10 09:58 AM |
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I don't give a poop whether its legal or not, the recording. |
Whisp |
Jul-16-10 05:19 PM |
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+ 1000 n/t |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 07:29 AM |
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Sick is not the word for him, try cruel, abusive and misogynistic. |
Darth_Kitten |
Jul-16-10 05:26 PM |
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you're right. He IS a turd butt. |
Iggo |
Jul-16-10 06:58 PM |
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Jul-17-10 08:08 AM |
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Its possible, just possible, that leaking those tapes may save her life. |
aikoaiko |
Jul-17-10 08:19 AM |
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You are correct, Sir. |
whathehell |
Jul-17-10 01:02 PM |
#173 |