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  -Yes, Mel Gibson is a turd, but..... HardWorkingDem  Jul-15-10 11:42 AM   #0 
  - agreed.  Hannah Bell   Jul-15-10 11:43 AM   #1 
  - Wait!!! I thought you LIKED surveillance??? n/t  msanthrope   Jul-15-10 08:45 PM   #88 
  - I see your point on it being leaked, however, was she the one leaking?  joeybee12   Jul-15-10 11:44 AM   #2 
  - She says she taped him because she was afraid of him killing her  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:12 PM   #20 
     - Yeah, in this case, I have to give her leeway...  joeybee12   Jul-15-10 12:35 PM   #33 
        - Actually...He basically told her he could...The last tapes revealed him waving a gun at her  whathehell   Jul-15-10 03:21 PM   #60 
        - Check this one out, kids.  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:47 PM   #80 
           - omfg  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 08:44 PM   #87 
           - Quite amazing, isn't it?...don't believe I've ever heard ANYTHING like it. n/t  whathehell   Jul-16-10 07:51 AM   #113 
           - not just "rich movie guy" entitlement  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 06:55 AM   #107 
           - I believe that! n/t  whathehell   Jul-16-10 07:50 AM   #112 
           - What do you know of movie people?  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 08:27 AM   #120 
              - What do you know?  whathehell   Jul-17-10 07:32 AM   #160 
  - Privacy  texastoast   Jul-15-10 11:44 AM   #3 
  - Yes, domestic abuse used to be deemed "privacy," particularly by the men doing the abusing.  CTyankee   Jul-16-10 07:39 AM   #110 
  - Her tapes are inadmissable evidence under California law  Canuckistanian   Jul-15-10 11:45 AM   #4 
  - Ding ding  malaise   Jul-15-10 11:47 AM   #6 
  - You have got to be kidding. Tapes made purposefully for release  Curmudgeoness   Jul-15-10 12:01 PM   #12 
  - Bingo. I was able to use the answering machine tape from my office phone  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 12:05 PM   #13 
  - Why didn't she just hang up and call the cops, then?  Canuckistanian   Jul-15-10 12:09 PM   #17 
  - "She didn't sound like a weak and submissive woman who was bullied."  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:14 PM   #21 
  - it was clear from the audio that she was just on the line to draw him out  mkultra   Jul-15-10 02:51 PM   #53 
     - There were many threats of violence.  EOTE   Jul-15-10 03:19 PM   #58 
     - "Building the weapon" WAS protecting herself  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 03:37 PM   #66 
     - If there was nothing there to draw out, she would have failed. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 03:38 PM   #67 
        - well thats a falsehood  mkultra   Jul-16-10 08:58 AM   #126 
           - How is it a falsehood?  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 09:02 AM   #131 
              - well, bear in mind that i havent listended to the tapes  mkultra   Jul-16-10 09:57 AM   #140 
                 - It has also been reported that Mel's camp offered her 20 million dollars for partial custody of  whathehell   Jul-17-10 07:48 AM   #161 
                    - or they are engandged in an ugly fight and she is holding the kids over his head  mkultra   Jul-17-10 10:47 AM   #169 
                       - It's one kid and that's possible...  whathehell   Jul-17-10 12:25 PM   #171 
  - What would hanging up and calling the cops do for her?  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 12:14 PM   #22 
  - Hate to keep beating on you, but you are just not getting it.  Curmudgeoness   Jul-15-10 12:22 PM   #25 
  - Seriously  Dorian Gray   Jul-15-10 04:38 PM   #71 
  - LOL! You're kidding, right?  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 12:57 PM   #39 
  - EXACTLY. Look at Whoopi Goldberg on "The View": "This is not the Mel I know. He is not a racist."  WinkyDink   Jul-15-10 03:24 PM   #62 
     - Look at OJ -- the cops DID come  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 03:39 PM   #68 
  - Ok I will give you a real world example  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-15-10 01:11 PM   #49 
  - Wow!  Spazito   Jul-15-10 03:04 PM   #55 
  - Oh, yes, the cops. Like the ones who rescued Nicole Simpson?  WinkyDink   Jul-15-10 03:22 PM   #61 
  - Yeah.....Like Nicole Simpson did.  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:06 PM   #75 
  - Are only "weak and submissive women" believable in your view?  Heidi   Jul-16-10 08:13 AM   #119 
  - Precisely.....And as to the "goldigger" stuff...I don't think so and I'll tell you why..  whathehell   Jul-15-10 03:27 PM   #63 
     - Young Turks nailed it last year in video. Golddigger  Catherina   Jul-16-10 10:51 AM   #142 
        - I Got Minorly Cruficied For Implying This a Couple of Days Ago  NashVegas   Jul-16-10 01:41 PM   #146 
        - So now she's a whore, too -- wtf  LostinVA   Jul-17-10 08:41 AM   #166 
        - For multi-millionaires who complain about those supposed "gold diggers"  whathehell   Jul-17-10 09:23 AM   #168 
        - that asshole Cenk blames her that Mel cheated on his wife? what a fuckung ass  bettyellen   Jul-16-10 06:52 PM   #156 
        - Guess what?...The woman in the Cenk tapes is NOT the woman in the current custody case  whathehell   Jul-17-10 09:03 AM   #167 
  - And, she also moved his lips, tongue and jaw with the hand she shoved...  Ozymanithrax   Jul-15-10 12:07 PM   #15 
  - I read that even the Teabaggers have gone thumbs down on him...  whathehell   Jul-15-10 03:34 PM   #64 
  - Not true -- domestic violence victims are allowed to tape calls  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:11 PM   #19 
  - Thank you for finding this.  myrna minx   Jul-16-10 09:10 AM   #133 
  - They are admissible  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:27 PM   #28 
  - I see that now  Canuckistanian   Jul-15-10 12:37 PM   #34 
     - I didn't know until I heard it on TV the other day  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:38 PM   #35 
  - blame the victim  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 12:53 PM   #36 
  - Actually you can record a person who is threatening you or your family  Lone_Star_Dem   Jul-15-10 01:09 PM   #47 
  - Not true. Probably will be admitted into evidence, if it comes to that.  TexasObserver   Jul-15-10 01:10 PM   #48 
  - Whatever. I don't really care if Gibson loses his fortune.  Arkana   Jul-15-10 03:36 PM   #65 
  - They are admissable under certain circumstances...In any case,  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:03 PM   #74 
  - wrong. tapes okay if attempting to prove admission of a crime or threat of future crimes  elehhhhna   Jul-15-10 08:24 PM   #85 
  - Her tapes are not inadmissable under CA law.  msanthrope   Jul-15-10 08:39 PM   #86 
  - I won't be shedding any tears over that, however.  JerseygirlCT   Jul-16-10 08:07 AM   #118 
  - That's why I started a thread days ago  malaise   Jul-15-10 11:46 AM   #5 
  - How can you not believe the tapes???  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:14 PM   #24 
  - You know, I've wondered this for years: why is it that some loathsome scumbags  shrike   Jul-15-10 12:25 PM   #26 
  - Good post  malaise   Jul-15-10 12:34 PM   #31 
  - "Just ess with certain vested interests and they won't stop until you're history. "  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:58 PM   #40 
  - Probably neither.  shrike   Jul-15-10 01:23 PM   #50 
     - Read again: She turned down TWENTY MILLION dollars  whathehell   Jul-15-10 08:23 PM   #84 
        - I'm not talking about her  shrike   Jul-15-10 10:34 PM   #91 
           - I agree with you maybe 50 percent....Even if Mel were still "the sexiest man alive"  whathehell   Jul-16-10 07:34 AM   #109 
              - When I said 'old,' I meant in Hollywood terms  shrike   Jul-16-10 08:46 AM   #122 
                 - I meant in Hollywood terms too, but no matter...I agree that  whathehell   Jul-16-10 08:53 AM   # 
  - What "bigger story" is that? n/t  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:13 PM   #76 
  - Hollywood Is Ready to Let Go of Mel  NashVegas   Jul-16-10 01:47 PM   #147 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-15-10 12:54 PM   #37 
  - I'm on Oksana's side, but I have to tell you this tactic is lame. n/t  LoZoccolo   Jul-15-10 01:04 PM   #45 
     - No, it's based on what this poster has said in the past nt  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 01:07 PM   #46 
  - Wrong....She was with him for three years -- had his child and  whathehell   Jul-15-10 03:43 PM   #69 
  - +1 "gold digger"  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 04:54 PM   #72 
     - + 10..."Denier"  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:01 PM   #73 
     - Ummmm....What part of "she turned down 20 million dollars" do you not understand?  whathehell   Jul-15-10 07:23 PM   #83 
        - Why in the world are you addressing that to me???  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 10:41 PM   #92 
           - LostinVa, I apologize!....That was addressed that to you in error!  whathehell   Jul-16-10 07:49 AM   #111 
              - No problem at all!  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 08:58 AM   #128 
                 - Thanks, Lost..  whathehell   Jul-16-10 11:06 AM   #143 
  - I agree with you.  Little Star   Jul-15-10 09:05 PM   #90 
     - Holy fucksticks on acid  Seneca   Jul-16-10 01:19 AM   #100 
     - Seriously -- w.t.f.  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 06:06 AM   #103 
     - Another one in the "it's ok to beat women" column nt  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 06:51 AM   #105 
  - 'Mel Gibson has Jesus envy'  Ichingcarpenter   Jul-15-10 11:48 AM   #7 
  - Somebody should remind Mel  Ken Burch   Jul-15-10 11:52 AM   #8 
  - Jesus wasn't a Christian and a renegade Jew according to the leadership back then  Ichingcarpenter   Jul-15-10 12:08 PM   #16 
  - Mel IS a whackjob because of his "deeds" more than his "creeds"  whathehell   Jul-15-10 07:20 PM   #82 
  - Yes...I'm not sure how this asshole missed. n/t  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:14 PM   #77 
  - That is not correct.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 08:48 AM   #123 
  - Gibson DID produce Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11"!  DailyGrind51   Jul-15-10 11:55 AM   #9 
  - Not to mention 'The Passion of the Christ (2004)'  Ozymanithrax   Jul-15-10 12:14 PM   #23 
  - "Aramaic", not to be confused with "Arabic", was the language of the region at one time,  DailyGrind51   Jul-15-10 12:28 PM   #29 
     - Yes, being a Jew I know the difference, since part of  Ozymanithrax   Jul-15-10 12:35 PM   #32 
        - Are those ancestors present day Berbers or Arabs or are Berbers actually ethnic Arabs?  DailyGrind51   Jul-15-10 04:25 PM   #70 
  - Someone else probably would have if he wouldn't have. n/t  LoZoccolo   Jul-15-10 01:00 PM   #42 
  - No one else wanted to produce it, that's the point!  DailyGrind51   Jul-16-10 08:05 AM   #117 
  - All of your facts are wrong. Mel did not produce that film.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 09:01 AM   #130 
     - Thanks -- I was wondering about that  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 09:04 AM   #132 
     - Not only did Mel not produce it  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 09:21 AM   #136 
        - Interesting...  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 09:51 AM   #139 
     - Show me your link!  DailyGrind51   Jul-17-10 08:04 AM   #162 
     - You are correct! Gibson DID turn it down under pressure from Jeb Bush!  DailyGrind51   Jul-17-10 08:25 AM   #165 
  - Someone else did, and Mel did not produce that film.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 09:38 AM   #138 
  - Incorrect, totally.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 08:58 AM   #127 
  - Maybe she shouldn't have given them to the press (assuming she did I'm not 100% on that), but he is  uncommon   Jul-15-10 11:57 AM   #10 
  - Ya know -- there is a price for fame...  Raine1967   Jul-15-10 11:58 AM   #11 
  - In my State this is perfectly legal as long as one of the two knows about the recording.  slampoet   Jul-15-10 12:05 PM   #14 
  - In addition...  Feron   Jul-15-10 02:56 PM   #54 
  - I hope it bounces Gibson off the bottom hard enough  Warpy   Jul-15-10 12:10 PM   #18 
  - Well said  plcdude   Jul-15-10 03:12 PM   #56 
  - He was diagnosed as bi-polar in '06 or '08....That plus the booze  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:18 PM   #78 
     - There's a lot of bipolar disease in my family  Warpy   Jul-16-10 01:30 PM   #145 
        - It's all well and good to feel bad for him, but he has visitation  LisaL   Jul-16-10 06:35 PM   #155 
        - How about the people around him?  whathehell   Jul-17-10 07:27 AM   #158 
           - Light switch mentality  Warpy   Jul-17-10 10:52 AM   #170 
              - Save your "light switch mentality" ...  whathehell   Jul-17-10 12:27 PM   #172 
  - Because taping a conversation is totally worse than beating up your partner.  lightningandsnow   Jul-15-10 12:27 PM   #27 
  - Dontcha know yet, Lightening?...This is just some "goldigger" up against a popular MAN..  whathehell   Jul-15-10 06:55 PM   #81 
     - Right. And until we can get some semblance of sense into these guys,  CTyankee   Jul-16-10 07:56 AM   #115 
        - Damned right....I'm with you all the way. n/t  whathehell   Jul-16-10 08:38 AM   #121 
  - Perfectly legal for her to do it  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 12:28 PM   #30 
  - Maybe she is a Republican... everyone knows it's ok if you are a Republican.  Winterblues   Jul-15-10 12:54 PM   #38 
  - Another abuser excuser heard from nt  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 01:02 PM   #43 
     - Are you referring to yourself?  Winterblues   Jul-15-10 02:49 PM   #52 
  - People like Mel thrive on keeping all this stuff private.  LoZoccolo   Jul-15-10 12:59 PM   #41 
  - + 100....to paraphrase another blogger on the subject  whathehell   Jul-15-10 05:20 PM   #79 
  - Why is it that people that are assholes  Texasgal   Jul-15-10 01:03 PM   #44 
  - These are not mutually exclusive categories. nt  EFerrari   Jul-15-10 01:36 PM   #51 
  - I'm voting both  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 10:59 PM   #97 
  - Mel Gibson is a turd, period! No ifs, ands or buts.  Individualist   Jul-15-10 03:18 PM   #57 
  - So the "leak" bothers you more than the insane rants, the threats, the actual violence?  WinkyDink   Jul-15-10 03:20 PM   #59 
  - How about some courtesy....  HardWorkingDem   Jul-16-10 12:27 AM   #98 
  - I understand why she did it, but...  Freetradesucks   Jul-15-10 08:51 PM   #89 
  - Of course it should -- it is evidence  LostinVA   Jul-15-10 10:42 PM   #93 
  - wtf indeed  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 10:58 PM   #96 
     - Well, some say Oskana is a golddigger and has implants  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 06:04 AM   #102 
        - we must have our priorities screwed up or something  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 05:16 PM   #148 
  - If you don't want it used against you, DON'T SAY IT IN THE FIRST PLACE  WolverineDG   Jul-15-10 10:56 PM   #95 
  - Awww, gee that's tough.  CTyankee   Jul-16-10 08:01 AM   #116 
  - Do you know what "evidence" means?  WinkyDink   Jul-16-10 08:48 AM   #124 
  - Mel Gibson is a turd. Period.  applegrove   Jul-15-10 10:51 PM   #94 
  - Why not tape him? Imagine how much shit he spewed b4 she started recording!  Lil Missy   Jul-16-10 01:06 AM   #99 
  - Yes...This was in the third year of their relationship. n/t  whathehell   Jul-16-10 07:53 AM   #114 
  - So, can he sue her for making and releasing the tapes?  JVS   Jul-16-10 01:24 AM   #101 
  - As stated in this thread and in my OP, it's legal for here to have made these tapes  LostinVA   Jul-16-10 06:08 AM   #104 
  - Oh I'm sure he can & will try (abusive assholes are like that)  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 06:54 AM   #106 
  - From a moral ethical stand point you may have a point But if she felt her life was endanger  TNLib   Jul-16-10 07:33 AM   #108 
  - "Her voice is crystal clear, while his is not" because some is from her phone.  WinkyDink   Jul-16-10 08:53 AM   #125 
  - I do not know what the laws are in CA, but...  HardWorkingDem   Jul-16-10 11:17 AM   #144 
  - And we don't know what she said on the calls she didn't record.  Radical Activist   Jul-16-10 08:59 AM   #129 
  - See my post above. Her voice is clear because she is speaking into her phone.  WinkyDink   Jul-16-10 09:13 AM   #135 
  - yeah, she so made up getting beaten in the face  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 05:20 PM   #150 
     - Ouch.  Radical Activist   Jul-16-10 06:28 PM   #154 
  - It's always a good idea not to act like a psychopath during one's private conversations  DefenseLawyer   Jul-16-10 09:11 AM   #134 
  - The Mel Gibson issue Post of the Day. +1  Darth_Kitten   Jul-16-10 05:28 PM   #153 
  - I note how many defenders of Mel on this thread are making  Bluenorthwest   Jul-16-10 09:24 AM   #137 
  - my fave is the "Mystery Man" they put on ET  WolverineDG   Jul-16-10 05:23 PM   #151 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-16-10 09:58 AM   #141 
  - I don't give a poop whether its legal or not, the recording.  Whisp   Jul-16-10 05:19 PM   #149 
  - + 1000 n/t  whathehell   Jul-17-10 07:29 AM   #159 
  - Sick is not the word for him, try cruel, abusive and misogynistic.  Darth_Kitten   Jul-16-10 05:26 PM   #152 
  - you're right. He IS a turd butt.  Iggo   Jul-16-10 06:58 PM   #157 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-17-10 08:08 AM   #163 
  - Its possible, just possible, that leaking those tapes may save her life.  aikoaiko   Jul-17-10 08:19 AM   #164 
     - You are correct, Sir.  whathehell   Jul-17-10 01:02 PM   #173 
 

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