EnviroBat
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Thu Jul-15-10 08:08 AM
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| She wasn't backing off. Because we didn't hear her when she firast pulled up, |
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she was in the process of calling for backup.
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| -Last night, I learned first-hand how spineless and pathetic this country has become. |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 07:58 AM |
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He cannot LEGALLY stop you from taking pictures on public property! |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 08:00 AM |
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I wasn't willing to get into a confrontation with the security guard, |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:06 AM |
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Character flaw |
izquierdista |
Jul-15-10 08:45 AM |
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I guess it stems from in inceident that happened years ago |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:53 AM |
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I would have taken HIS picture. Maybe we should have a section on DU called the gestapo. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-15-10 08:07 PM |
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From the OP, we find that the security guard was a female. Not a |
Obamanaut |
Jul-17-10 04:52 PM |
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Still, it's an obvious breach of 1st Amendment rights. |
burnsei sensei |
Jul-16-10 05:42 AM |
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Are Malls actually public property? |
leftofcool |
Jul-15-10 08:12 AM |
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If you can view the building from a public street corner it is fair game! |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 09:17 AM |
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Yes, that is exactly what this particular chain store said |
leftofcool |
Jul-15-10 09:27 AM |
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The people in a public place have no right to or should have no |
pokercat999 |
Jul-16-10 06:54 AM |
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The mall--whether outdoor or indoor--is probably private property. |
mnhtnbb |
Jul-15-10 08:13 AM |
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Agreed 100% |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:16 AM |
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It Happens All the Time In Afghanistan |
Demeter |
Jul-16-10 03:08 AM |
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did you call the corporate offices--not in the mall, the offices of the corp that owned the mall? |
niyad |
Jul-15-10 09:09 AM |
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No. I wrote a letter telling mall management I would not be back to shop |
mnhtnbb |
Jul-15-10 09:27 AM |
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not surprised. did you also contact BN and nordstrom's to tell them why you wouldn't be back? |
niyad |
Jul-15-10 03:27 PM |
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At least around here that isn't the criteria, it's whether it's public access. |
Better Today |
Jul-15-10 11:41 AM |
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Yep..once you enter the parking lot you are on private property |
SoCalDem |
Jul-15-10 11:53 AM |
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Actually, that has been challenged within the last few years |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 03:36 PM |
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I had a lady crash into my car in a Robinsons' parking lot |
SoCalDem |
Jul-15-10 03:52 PM |
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Oh, geeze. |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-10 04:28 PM |
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they DID say that if I was injured, they would send someone |
SoCalDem |
Jul-15-10 04:42 PM |
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Which makes me wonder.....How can privately-owed property owners put... |
BlueJazz |
Jul-16-10 08:52 PM |
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Those signs are not necessarily legally enforceable |
Sherman A1 |
Jul-17-10 02:28 PM |
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YEP- in Fresno |
vanlassie |
Jul-16-10 07:56 AM |
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Precisely |
Sherman A1 |
Jul-16-10 05:12 AM |
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I also wouldn't |
blueamy66 |
Jul-17-10 06:43 AM |
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The point is that ownership comes with some rights |
Sherman A1 |
Jul-17-10 02:26 PM |
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We still have town squares |
Gaedel |
Jul-15-10 03:30 PM |
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It is NOT public property |
marions ghost |
Jul-15-10 08:50 AM |
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Depends where the fountain was....... |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 09:18 AM |
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If the fountain belongs to the mall |
marions ghost |
Jul-15-10 10:01 AM |
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LOL...they can use it but it is not true. Can you imagine me not being able to take a.... |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 12:18 PM |
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People don't know their rights |
marions ghost |
Jul-15-10 12:45 PM |
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If I am standing on a public street there is NOTHING they can do..... |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 12:48 PM |
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Look |
marions ghost |
Jul-15-10 12:55 PM |
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It's a fight I would actually start if I lived close to where you are talking..... |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 01:07 PM |
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It has come to that-- |
marions ghost |
Jul-15-10 03:17 PM |
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I agree with you. Taking your chances with freedom is dangerous in this country! |
KansasVoter |
Jul-15-10 03:21 PM |
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Tell Mall Cop to call the real cops and go back to his office to listen to Rush. |
YOY |
Jul-15-10 08:02 AM |
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You would think so... |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:18 AM |
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You could have ask what she ment by "department". |
YOY |
Jul-15-10 08:20 AM |
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Heck... |
GoCubsGo |
Jul-16-10 07:25 AM |
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Why didn't you tell them to fuck off? |
CBGLuthier |
Jul-15-10 08:02 AM |
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Because that would have led to me being arrested for disorderly conduct. |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:13 AM |
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No security guard has any authority to take your girlfriend's camera |
TommyO |
Jul-16-10 05:40 AM |
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So perhaps rather than the other 300 million of us who are supposed to be a nation of cowards |
Telly Savalas |
Jul-17-10 07:42 AM |
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Maybe you and your girlfriend were planning to bomb the fountain? |
lunatica |
Jul-15-10 08:03 AM |
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Did you challenge him at all? I have found that most of the "9-11" people will backoff |
Erose999 |
Jul-15-10 08:05 AM |
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She wasn't backing off. Because we didn't hear her when she firast pulled up, |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 08:08 AM |
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We are behaving like field mice instead of intelligent, competent |
ladjf |
Jul-15-10 08:08 AM |
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The only way to get this bullshit to end is a federal law proecting photograhers. |
Jkid |
Jul-15-10 08:09 AM |
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and grand larceny. nt |
obxhead |
Jul-15-10 08:53 AM |
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That happened to me in Minneapolis, actually. |
MinneapolisMatt |
Jul-15-10 08:47 AM |
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The terrorists or whatever made up group the government wants us to freak out about... |
Javaman |
Jul-15-10 08:52 AM |
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Strange days, indeed |
Glorfindel |
Jul-15-10 08:53 AM |
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AND YET, one can photograph the fountain in Bryant Park at night. That would be IN NYC. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-10 08:53 AM |
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Yup it sure was a "convenient" excuse for those who were looking for exactly that. |
JohnyCanuck |
Jul-15-10 08:54 AM |
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Do these assclowns realize that potential terrorists would probably |
bullwinkle428 |
Jul-15-10 08:56 AM |
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Irony Alert |
NashVegas |
Jul-15-10 08:59 AM |
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Fear sells because the people buy it |
Ezlivin |
Jul-15-10 08:59 AM |
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/swish |
Fla_Democrat |
Jul-15-10 09:12 AM |
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9/11 was a coup for those who wanted their little dictatorship here--a gift. |
niyad |
Jul-15-10 09:12 AM |
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There whining about "big government" is only about how it |
pokercat999 |
Jul-16-10 07:04 AM |
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You haven't heard about the latest al Qaeda fatwa against infidel Ohio mallscaping? |
BurtWorm |
Jul-15-10 09:35 AM |
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I've never heard of not being able to take pictures of a MALL. |
TwilightGardener |
Jul-15-10 09:41 AM |
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malls are not "public property" |
leftofcool |
Jul-15-10 09:51 AM |
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Oh--I thought this was outdoors (night, fountain and all). I guess it could |
TwilightGardener |
Jul-15-10 09:54 AM |
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I think it was inside |
leftofcool |
Jul-15-10 10:05 AM |
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It was outdoors on a public sidewalk. |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 12:40 PM |
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Easton? nt |
femrap |
Jul-15-10 01:24 PM |
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Then nobody had any authority to stop you from taking photographs |
TommyO |
Jul-16-10 05:42 AM |
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Corporate policy is not the law of the land (yet) |
Raineyb |
Jul-15-10 05:45 PM |
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I took over 2600 Photos in Germany in the last 2 weeks |
piniongear |
Jul-15-10 09:48 AM |
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Yep and they don't get overly excited about copyrights either. |
leftofcool |
Jul-15-10 09:52 AM |
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I've been in Ukraine close to five years... |
MattSh |
Jul-16-10 07:33 AM |
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Check out the PINAC website for some interesting stories on this |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jul-15-10 09:52 AM |
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+1 for Carlos' website. |
Ignis |
Jul-15-10 01:25 PM |
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Here is a handy printout of your rights as a photographer: |
benEzra |
Jul-15-10 10:44 AM |
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Thank you for that... |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 12:45 PM |
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Make sure she always keeps that printout in her gadget bag |
Touchdown |
Jul-16-10 02:47 AM |
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Y'know I go through that from time to time, but I just hand them my card, and |
Better Today |
Jul-15-10 11:34 AM |
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"...I'm tempted to put my size 9 shoe 11 inches up their ass." |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-15-10 11:37 AM |
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Thanks,,, |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 12:46 PM |
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Sitting by the community mailboxes at the entrance of my subdivision waiting for the letter carrier |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-15-10 11:42 AM |
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I understand how you feel, but allowing the stupid to stop you from doing what you |
Greyhound |
Jul-15-10 11:42 AM |
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I guess part of the reason is that my girlfriend goes through this world |
EnviroBat |
Jul-15-10 12:55 PM |
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Legitimizing oppression was always the point. |
Greyhound |
Jul-15-10 12:58 PM |
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I'm beginning to think the shitstorm will never arrive because we're like frogs in the pot |
mnhtnbb |
Jul-15-10 01:46 PM |
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That's exactly why it could be so bad. The frog doesn't jump out |
Greyhound |
Jul-15-10 05:19 PM |
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Agreed 100% |
EnviroBat |
Jul-16-10 08:12 AM |
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Why did you behave like one of "a nation of cowards," when you wanted to |
Better Today |
Jul-15-10 11:47 AM |
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Ah, the sweet smell of change. nt |
newtothegame |
Jul-15-10 12:55 PM |
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Please make sure you are |
femrap |
Jul-15-10 01:16 PM |
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they have regularly been stopping photographers - open carry guns but NO carry camera - go figure n/ |
2Design |
Jul-15-10 02:46 PM |
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Had a dis cussion of this sor trecently. All this fear and harrassment. The terrorists HAVE won. |
BrklynLiberal |
Jul-15-10 03:25 PM |
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I hope DU'er ragininmiami check into this thread |
mdmc |
Jul-15-10 03:29 PM |
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I cover this theme in my latest book "Cretins with a Tin Badge". |
RagAss |
Jul-15-10 05:51 PM |
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A somewhat similar story |
OutThere |
Jul-15-10 07:55 PM |
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Wow. Sounds like he's hunting up some revenue for his town/ |
babylonsister |
Jul-16-10 04:09 AM |
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That is some bullshit right there. |
EnviroBat |
Jul-16-10 08:17 AM |
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But we're safe!!! Amen K&R (nt) |
whatchamacallit |
Jul-15-10 08:54 PM |
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Agree . . . and too many Americans buy the necessity for this crap . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-15-10 10:33 PM |
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You're late recognizing the takeover. |
joentokyo |
Jul-15-10 11:02 PM |
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Welcome to DU, JT. n/t |
Oldtimeralso |
Jul-16-10 12:08 AM |
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you relocate to? |
EnviroBat |
Jul-16-10 08:22 AM |
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People don't seem to realize... |
Steely_Dan |
Jul-15-10 11:09 PM |
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So many people seem to believe that we have "FREEDOM" as long as everyone can be |
Lorien |
Jul-15-10 11:43 PM |
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Naw, you stick around... |
ProudDad |
Jul-16-10 12:32 AM |
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I am not surprised and I agree completely with your assessment of the USA. |
Bonobo |
Jul-16-10 05:26 AM |
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You might want to familiarize yourself with "Photography Is Not a Crime" |
TommyO |
Jul-16-10 05:36 AM |
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Interesting! |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-10 07:09 AM |
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Reminds me of the security guard who freaked out when my son |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-10 07:11 AM |
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Here's a delicious irony |
TomClash |
Jul-16-10 07:18 AM |
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This is what happens when you put.... |
wuvuj |
Jul-16-10 08:01 AM |
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They use their cameras to spot you taking pics with yours |
KurtNYC |
Jul-16-10 08:21 AM |
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You both have rights |
FreeJoe |
Jul-17-10 07:38 AM |
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Breaking news here |
RagingInMiami |
Jul-16-10 08:23 PM |
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Private property |
whogasa736 |
Jul-17-10 07:06 AM |
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I find it funny how you've said the security guard was a women..... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Jul-17-10 07:16 AM |
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The way it works here... |
FreeJoe |
Jul-17-10 07:35 AM |
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Re the last line in the OP - check the immigration laws/requirements |
Obamanaut |
Jul-17-10 07:47 AM |
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Leave. n/t |
liquid diamond |
Jul-17-10 02:44 PM |
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