| 136. then what does a past trauma have to do with anything. he raped a child. nothing excuses it.... |
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per your words. as simple as that.
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| -I don't care how his defenders spin it. Raping a 13 year-old girl is not ok. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:20 PM |
#0 |
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Did I miss something? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:25 PM |
#1 |
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Switzerland let him go free for miscellaneous reasons including 'national interests.' |
onehandle |
Jul-12-10 07:28 PM |
#2 |
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I see. Thanks. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:36 PM |
#15 |
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so you want to fuck Polanski because he's a rapist? |
Johonny |
Jul-12-10 07:28 PM |
#3 |
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Really? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:31 PM |
#7 |
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Raping? Hell I don't think it's "ok" for a man to have sex with a 13 year old. |
flvegan |
Jul-12-10 07:29 PM |
#4 |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 07:42 PM |
#24 |
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I assumed the OP would consider it rape even if she had "consented" |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:15 PM |
#149 |
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It would always be rape, because she couldn't have consented |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 10:31 PM |
#154 |
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right |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:32 PM |
#157 |
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Of coarse it is not, and many good people fight against people that do those terrible things. |
RandomThoughts |
Jul-12-10 07:29 PM |
#5 |
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yup. not a tough one to figure out. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:30 PM |
#6 |
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No, it's not. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:32 PM |
#8 |
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one posters says, she only said no a few times. and what???? means yes? nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:35 PM |
# |
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and besides, that 13 yr old TOOK the glass of alcohol from him |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 07:40 PM |
#22 |
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Americans |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 07:34 PM |
#11 |
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uh, the crime was in the u.s. ergo, broke u.s. laws. because people want him prosecuted for |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:37 PM |
#16 |
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Except the rural middle east, where she would have had to apologize to him |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:40 PM |
#21 |
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exactly. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:41 PM |
#23 |
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So rape isn't a big deal in Canada? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:38 PM |
#18 |
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Never said it wasn't |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 07:47 PM |
#28 |
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well within their rights, but it is MY right to be PISSED a RAPIST is protected. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:50 PM |
#31 |
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You have the right to be pissed... |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 08:01 PM |
#48 |
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i dont have the right to criticize? boy howdy, i think you are wrong on that. |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:03 PM |
#54 |
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extradite, not "extridite" and yes, we do have the right to criticize. Death penalty isn't |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:20 PM |
#91 |
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Switzerland put their international prestige on the line by letting |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:35 PM |
#161 |
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So all a Canadian has to do to get away with crimes they commit in Canada is flee? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-12-10 07:53 PM |
#34 |
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No, what I'm saying is.... |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 08:10 PM |
#67 |
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prosecuting a child rapist is not a tradition adn to throw that in when talking law suggests |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:12 PM |
#71 |
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I am saying... |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 08:19 PM |
#89 |
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no, you thru in traditions, as if that had any place, to make rape of a child minimal. |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:21 PM |
#94 |
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Rape is illegal in Europe too. |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:19 PM |
#151 |
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you forget international protocols and agreements involving |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:39 PM |
#165 |
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This is clearly a waste of my time, but let me say this again, slowly: |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-12-10 11:00 PM |
#175 |
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Polanski was given the death penalty? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:55 PM |
#38 |
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In a perfect world, he and all sexual predators would be. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:04 PM |
#55 |
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I prefer castration, but get your point. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 08:37 PM |
#107 |
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Are you saying |
Caretha |
Jul-12-10 08:15 PM |
#83 |
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Not at all... |
murphyj87 |
Jul-12-10 08:27 PM |
#98 |
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that is no argument in the op. the comment was.... not ok to rape a child. |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:29 PM |
#100 |
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arrogant americans. my, aren't you sweet. |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:41 PM |
#167 |
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This poster is really not bright enough to be insulting anyone else, either |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-12-10 11:20 PM |
#177 |
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You do realize that lots of countries have extradition treaties with the US, don't you? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-12-10 11:19 PM |
#176 |
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dude broke the law in the usa |
reggie the dog |
Jul-12-10 10:08 PM |
#144 |
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I think this dude is just making a dipshit argument. having sex with a |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:33 PM |
#158 |
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Has anyone said raping a 13 year old is okay? |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 07:34 PM |
#9 |
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she only said no a couple times? i think that is pretty close to saying rape is ok. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:39 PM |
#19 |
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If anyone said it was okay, they are wrong and an asshole. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 07:42 PM |
#25 |
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to say the rape of a child is wrong, but the man should not have to follow u.s. law |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:46 PM |
#26 |
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there is prosecution |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 07:47 PM |
#27 |
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no, there is not there is prosecution adn then there is proseution. there was NO prosecution |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:48 PM |
#29 |
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you want the laws applied. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 07:53 PM |
#35 |
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switzerland law was not applied. he is a rich dude, with rich support and they backed him. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:57 PM |
#42 |
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we are in violent agreement that wealth confers privilege. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 08:17 PM |
#87 |
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where the fuck are you getting it is country vs country? you are arguing the wrong thing. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:19 PM |
#90 |
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I'm not arguing. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 08:33 PM |
#105 |
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the crime against the child takes precedence. I hope that chinless |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:44 PM |
#168 |
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In U.S. law, it doesn't matter what the victim "wants." It is the state against the defendant, not |
CTyankee |
Jul-12-10 07:53 PM |
#33 |
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It's stunning to me how few people at DU seem to know that. nt |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-12-10 07:55 PM |
#37 |
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Well, I guess that's why we're here...(sigh) |
CTyankee |
Jul-12-10 07:56 PM |
#39 |
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Criminal Law vs Civil Law 101 |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:58 PM |
#43 |
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I'm not disputing the obligation of the authorities in CA to seek extradition. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 08:02 PM |
#49 |
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no, first you said no one defending rapists. i said uh huh. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:05 PM |
#57 |
| -
sorry if I misinterpreted the point of your post. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 08:36 PM |
#106 |
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you know, if you want to interpret moral outrage to someone defending raping children..... |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:44 PM |
#111 |
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I believe rape of a child is sick, repugnant and awful. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 08:50 PM |
#117 |
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rape of a child works better for me. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:57 PM |
#123 |
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There is no such thing as sex with a child by an adult |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:59 PM |
#126 |
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edited my post to conform with your most excellent point. |
branders seine |
Jul-12-10 09:00 PM |
#128 |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 09:03 PM |
#130 |
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No matter - he was found guilty of a CRIME |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-12-10 07:56 PM |
#40 |
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which is why many states have laws saying |
reggie the dog |
Jul-12-10 10:11 PM |
#145 |
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nobody thinks raping a 13 yr old is ok |
pitohui |
Jul-12-10 07:34 PM |
#10 |
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Wow, so if someone rapes your daughter and can stay free 30 years it is OK with you? |
KansasVoter |
Jul-12-10 07:35 PM |
#13 |
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somebody does think anally raping a 13 yr old after giving her drugs/alcohol is ok |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 07:36 PM |
#14 |
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I live in France and am pretty damn sure |
reggie the dog |
Jul-12-10 10:14 PM |
#148 |
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That is what wiki says, the |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 10:33 PM |
#159 |
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it might have been 13 at the time, actually |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:40 PM |
#166 |
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"after they've done their time" |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:37 PM |
#17 |
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Well... |
Chan790 |
Jul-12-10 08:16 PM |
#85 |
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He fled before sentencing and he confessed. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 09:07 PM |
#133 |
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1. He fled before "doing time"; 2. "house arrest" in a Swiss chalet? Please; 3. if age is a |
WinkyDink |
Jul-12-10 08:08 PM |
#65 |
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really? |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:47 PM |
#170 |
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How do you figure he isn't a danger to society? Are you even aware that he has had yet other |
saracat |
Jul-12-10 11:51 PM |
#178 |
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Recommended. |
H2O Man |
Jul-12-10 07:35 PM |
#12 |
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Yes, he is. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:01 PM |
#47 |
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It's not the only incident. Polanski defenders like to forget his 15 year old girlfriend, |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 08:20 PM |
#92 |
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not only that he said in interview.... every old man wants to rape... oh, have sex, with a kid.nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:23 PM |
#95 |
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That other woman has come forward, too |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:52 PM |
#120 |
| -
K&R |
katandmoon |
Jul-12-10 07:39 PM |
#20 |
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K & Effing R |
Mojeoux |
Jul-12-10 07:49 PM |
#30 |
| -
Do You Support An Invasion Of Switzerland? |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 07:52 PM |
#32 |
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Do you support letting Polanski sleep in your daughter's room? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 07:54 PM |
#36 |
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wait, while plying her with booze and drugs.... nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 07:58 PM |
#44 |
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No, in fact I have a Polanski-proof perimeter around the house |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 07:58 PM |
#45 |
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ah, so if we cannot change the world we keep mouth shut. eyes down. not feel any emotions |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:02 PM |
#50 |
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I suggested an invasion |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:05 PM |
#56 |
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a trade embargo like with cuba |
reggie the dog |
Jul-12-10 10:18 PM |
#150 |
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yeah, you go get the rat bastard. then you can come back and |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:49 PM |
#172 |
| -
Nothing easy about letting a rapist get away with his crimes. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:03 PM |
#53 |
| -
Well that's what I'm asking |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:06 PM |
#58 |
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I wouldn't. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:07 PM |
#60 |
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Saying raping a 13 yr old is not ok can only be backed up by invading Switzerland? wtf? |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 07:57 PM |
#41 |
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pro polenski posters on this thread has taken a step further. u.s. people arent alllowed to be mad |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:00 PM |
#46 |
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When someone tells me I'm not allowed to be mad about something... |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:02 PM |
#51 |
| -
Mad? |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:07 PM |
#59 |
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It's too bad you don't actually have an opinion to contribute. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:08 PM |
#63 |
| -
Your opinion is not doing a thing to bring justice to Polanski |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:21 PM |
#93 |
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Cash in the ticket and donate it to a fund for victims of sexual abuse and rape. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:32 PM |
#103 |
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you are just sad. sad, sad, sad. |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:50 PM |
#173 |
| -
why are you throwing this crap out. people are pissed about raping a child you suggest murder? |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:09 PM |
#66 |
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There are plenty who support the death penalty |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:12 PM |
#72 |
| -
again, a game. you dont think raping a child an issue, ergo, playing a fuckin game. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:13 PM |
#75 |
| -
I'm suggesting he be assasinated. |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#80 |
| -
There have been so many DU'ers saying it's okay to rape 13 year olds... |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:03 PM |
#52 |
| -
i say when his happy free ass jaunts on over to another country, grab him there |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:08 PM |
#62 |
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Raping a 13 yr old girl is not ok. Anyone who defends raping 13 yr olds is also not ok. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:08 PM |
#64 |
| -
And people on DU defend raping 13 year olds? |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:10 PM |
#68 |
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yes, really. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:12 PM |
#73 |
| -
Well that's news to me. Polanski can be taken out with a hit squad |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:13 PM |
#76 |
| -
a silly silly game to excuse rape of a child. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#82 |
| -
I see... "kill him" = "excuse" /nt |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:16 PM |
#86 |
| -
wtf... you see a whole lot of shit that is just that.... nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:23 PM |
#97 |
| -
Yes. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:28 PM |
#99 |
| -
poster forgot to add she only said no a few times then |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:31 PM |
#101 |
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That person seems not to be saying what you are suggesting |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:31 PM |
#102 |
| -
I'm not "suggesting" but quoting. "where's the rape" |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:42 PM |
#110 |
| -
You truncated that quote |
jberryhill |
Jul-12-10 08:57 PM |
#124 |
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Strawman. Or would it be flamebait? Or just good oldfashioned |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 09:07 PM |
#132 |
| -
"So what is the next move?" |
depakid |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#79 |
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Hey, it's Polanski's number-one DU defender. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:33 PM |
#104 |
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Hey, it's the number one outrage addict screaming: "you support the terraists!" |
depakid |
Jul-12-10 08:39 PM |
#108 |
| -
Hey, when are you going to bust out the "It was a different time" defense? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:41 PM |
#109 |
| -
Here's another positive thing you can do: |
depakid |
Jul-12-10 08:45 PM |
#112 |
| -
That is inexcusable. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:48 PM |
#115 |
| -
It really is- and with the catfood commission's statements today about "no more aid to the states" |
depakid |
Jul-12-10 08:52 PM |
#121 |
| -
That is worth raising hell over. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:49 PM |
#116 |
| -
What happened to his pregnant wife and others was not okay either. |
BrightKnight |
Jul-12-10 08:07 PM |
#61 |
| -
Bullshit and you know it. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:11 PM |
#69 |
| -
"There are no mitigating factors" is not US law. - nt |
BrightKnight |
Jul-12-10 08:16 PM |
# |
| -
every child rapist who can prove they have been emotionally hurt in life are allowed to rape |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:18 PM |
#88 |
| -
That radical characterization has nothing to do with what I actually posted. - n/t |
BrightKnight |
Jul-12-10 08:52 PM |
#119 |
| -
yes. it is exactly what you said. emotional hurt or trauma excuses raping children. if for polensk |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 09:00 PM |
#127 |
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I don't read it that way. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 09:23 PM |
#137 |
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It is, in stautory rape. Perhaps you would care to name the |
msanthrope |
Jul-12-10 08:23 PM |
#96 |
| -
In what States are mitigating factors not considered in murder or rape trials? |
BrightKnight |
Jul-12-10 08:47 PM |
#114 |
| -
If you are hungry and you steal a loaf of bread, there would certainly be mitigating factors |
MajorChode |
Jul-12-10 09:53 PM |
#143 |
| -
you just did excuse the rape of a child. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#77 |
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I MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT! "Nothing excuses what he did..." n/t |
BrightKnight |
Jul-12-10 09:11 PM |
#134 |
| -
then what does a past trauma have to do with anything. he raped a child. nothing excuses it.... |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 09:23 PM |
#136 |
| -
I read that post as trying to understand any sort of "why", not to excuse it. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 09:25 PM |
#139 |
| -
the man wasnt going to get 20 yrs. another couple months maybe. tops. just having to fly to u.s |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 09:34 PM |
#140 |
| -
if that is true, then no one is going to be held responsible and |
roguevalley |
Jul-12-10 10:55 PM |
#174 |
| -
It's really mind-boggling reading these threads |
skygazer |
Jul-12-10 08:12 PM |
#70 |
| -
anything and all is pulled out to defend a child rapist. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 08:16 PM |
#84 |
| -
Correction |
cmkramer |
Jul-12-10 08:47 PM |
#113 |
| -
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:50 PM |
#118 |
| -
Wrong. He has. He was arrested and charged with rape, pled guilty to statuatory rape. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 08:53 PM |
#122 |
| -
He plead guilty to one count of rape concerning Samantha Geiner |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:58 PM |
#125 |
| -
he confessed to sex with underage. that is rape. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 09:02 PM |
#129 |
| -
Under CA law, that is legally the same as rape |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 09:04 PM |
#131 |
| -
Yeah! If you're not willing to enlist in the U.S. Armed Forces -- to invade Switzerland -- |
smalll |
Jul-12-10 10:38 PM |
#164 |
| -
I'll Take Your Non-Stop Outrage Over Polanski A Little More Seriously.... |
Paladin |
Jul-12-10 08:13 PM |
#74 |
| -
Utter fail at connecting different issues. |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#81 |
| -
It's sad that he is getting away with it |
supernova |
Jul-12-10 08:14 PM |
#78 |
| -
As much as I sympathize with his plight |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-12-10 09:19 PM |
#135 |
| -
I would like to know why US Attnys didn't send what the Swiss said they needed to keep him. |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 09:24 PM |
#138 |
| -
The Swiss were convinced there was a plea deal |
Canuckistanian |
Jul-12-10 10:45 PM |
#169 |
| -
No it is not, and Polanski is a pig |
Taverner |
Jul-12-10 09:37 PM |
#141 |
| -
Do you time he spent fleeing justice, or time he spent living abroad where he wanted to should |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 09:51 PM |
#142 |
| -
"the time abroad DOES have to be taken into consideration with his sentence" |
proteus_lives |
Jul-12-10 10:27 PM |
#152 |
| -
dont know what poster meant. but added time for spending three decades |
seabeyond |
Jul-12-10 10:32 PM |
#156 |
| -
That is my thought also. Just because you escape from prison doesn't mean |
uppityperson |
Jul-12-10 10:35 PM |
#162 |
| -
also being roman fucking polanski in europe |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:47 PM |
#171 |
| -
Rosemary's Baby was pretty good so its okay. |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:12 PM |
#146 |
| -
K&R |
varelse |
Jul-12-10 10:14 PM |
#147 |
| -
Isn't his fate an insult to genuinely rehabilited sex offenders |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:31 PM |
#153 |
| -
He also gave her a huge settlement about 20 years ago |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 10:33 PM |
#160 |
| -
ah, that's even worse! |
miscsoc |
Jul-12-10 10:35 PM |
#163 |
| -
But, but, bringing him to justice is just typical barbarous Amertican cruelty! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-12-10 10:31 PM |
#155 |
| -
locking |
TrogL |
Jul-12-10 11:52 PM |
#179 |
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