Winston Wolf
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Sun Jul-11-10 04:48 PM
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Thank you for the article. An under-educated public is far more malleable and subservient to authoritarian types, which is why I find it very alarming that the Obama Administration has not made an immediate and very sharp break with NCLB and other like policies.
After the Bush Administration's shredding of our basic civil rights, our future generations need to understand the dangers of not having basic civil rights like Habeas Corpus, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, etc.
If we do not want to see our country dominated by a right wing fascist regime, we need a well educated public to combat all of the lies and distortions that bombard them on a daily basis.
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| -"Why has the Obama Admin built its ed agenda on the failed strategies of No Child Left Behind?" |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 04:29 AM |
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Excellent speech on the failure known as NCLB and |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 04:46 AM |
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duncan is campaigning with gingrich? wow. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 04:50 AM |
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Yes, Gingrich joined Duncan and Sharpton to promote |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 05:13 AM |
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omg. GINGRICH & SHARPTON are promoting the Democrats' ed reform package? |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 05:34 AM |
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And Jeb Bush. Yes, what it does to see this kind of rightwing |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:21 PM |
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jeb too? wow, just wow. jeb = major player in florida's school deform. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 06:31 PM |
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WANT GOOD STUDENTS???? EDUCATE THEIR PARENTS |
HowHasItComeToThis |
Jul-12-10 01:41 AM |
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Gingrich is ok |
jeanpalmer |
Jul-12-10 02:06 AM |
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The answer is simplicity tself: M-O-N-E-Y, BABY. What it don't get, I can't use. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-11-10 05:44 AM |
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K and R...... and bookmarked. Folks who don't get what the fuss is all about... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Jul-11-10 07:06 AM |
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Kick |
peekaloo |
Jul-11-10 07:26 AM |
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President Obama's record on education is VERY disappointing, to say the least. |
Danger Mouse |
Jul-11-10 07:45 AM |
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One of the ringleaders of the assault on public education? Jeb Bush. |
seafan |
Jul-11-10 08:13 AM |
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this is so true...these curriculum manufacturers in FL work 2 angles, education and prisons. |
nashville_brook |
Jul-11-10 09:46 AM |
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yes and remeber the Bushes privatized the Prisons too...easy money..then they don't have to risk |
flyarm |
Jul-11-10 02:46 PM |
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That Jeb Bush is entirely in favor of Duncan's direction |
suffragette |
Jul-11-10 10:03 AM |
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newt gingrich as well. the architect of contract on america. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 01:13 PM |
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Of course he is..it was his plan! eom |
flyarm |
Jul-11-10 02:47 PM |
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Obama should be ashamed to have the support of anti-public- |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:17 PM |
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because he too is against public anything |
fascisthunter |
Jul-11-10 05:15 PM |
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Excellent post, thank you! |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-12-10 12:19 AM |
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The Bushes have long benefited wildly from skimming money from education. |
seafan |
Jul-12-10 08:14 AM |
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Because it was the law? |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 08:15 AM |
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He promised to reform it and has only made it worse |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-11-10 10:01 AM |
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Any President would have to enforce it as is |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 10:27 AM |
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No. Any president would reform it and make it better or lobby Congress to throw it out. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-11-10 10:39 AM |
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The executive does not have the power to "make it better" |
treestar |
Jul-11-10 10:42 AM |
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We just had 8 years of an administration that meddled in every piece of legislation they wanted to |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-11-10 11:37 AM |
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Oh bullshit..and i have some oil drenched beaches for you! bullshit! eom |
flyarm |
Jul-11-10 02:48 PM |
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"So in the meantime, the existing laws have to be enforced." Yeah like bush and Raygun |
fasttense |
Jul-11-10 03:25 PM |
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What a patronizing, condescending piece of crap. |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-11-10 05:34 PM |
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+100. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 06:36 PM |
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+ another 100 |
Tansy_Gold |
Jul-11-10 09:27 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-12-10 10:07 AM |
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That's really weird |
rpannier |
Jul-11-10 05:58 PM |
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no, even with control of both houses, democrats are powerless. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 06:35 PM |
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So show me the guy is even trying. Any news stories of him meeting with teachers lately? |
MichiganVote |
Jul-11-10 08:33 PM |
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Admirable on your part, but |
TBF |
Jul-11-10 09:50 PM |
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It is not a low blow |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-12-10 12:08 AM |
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This is not a logical response. |
noamnety |
Jul-12-10 11:09 PM |
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Oh really? So how do you explain "Race to the Top"? |
JackRiddler |
Jul-11-10 11:15 AM |
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"Race to the Top" is a cruel hoax. |
azul |
Jul-11-10 11:24 AM |
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right on time |
RetroLounge |
Jul-11-10 08:20 PM |
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Raises the question as to why this administration as built so much of its agenda on the |
indepat |
Jul-11-10 08:44 AM |
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very good question and everyone with brains understands why!! |
flyarm |
Jul-11-10 02:50 PM |
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Exactly, n/t |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-11-10 05:37 PM |
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After running on "Change"? |
Lorien |
Jul-11-10 08:13 PM |
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Name removed |
Jul-11-10 08:49 AM |
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as opposed to the policies are "very curious indeed"...ok nt |
msongs |
Jul-11-10 08:53 AM |
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Divert! Deflect! Defend! |
tekisui |
Jul-11-10 09:01 AM |
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Take a look in the ed forum archives. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Jul-11-10 09:31 AM |
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Teachers have been upset for years. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-11-10 10:41 AM |
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People have been upset all along, there is no delayed reaction. Maybe you missed it. |
JackRiddler |
Jul-11-10 11:17 AM |
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Thank you |
SpiralHawk |
Jul-11-10 08:58 AM |
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b/c that's where the money is? |
nashville_brook |
Jul-11-10 09:43 AM |
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Shame on AFT for not having Ravitch speak at our convention |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-11-10 09:56 AM |
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they were too busy seein how far they could shove Gates down your throats and how bad of a reaction |
flyarm |
Jul-11-10 02:56 PM |
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If I had stirred up a shitstorm there would have been consequences |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-12-10 10:15 AM |
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k & r |
Starry Messenger |
Jul-11-10 11:38 AM |
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kick as high as I can, and rec heartily! Thank YOU! |
nightrain |
Jul-11-10 11:40 AM |
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done. |
puzzlingpond |
Jul-11-10 11:49 AM |
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Wonderful, Powerful Speech, One Which I Think Will Prove To Be Historic |
Dinger |
Jul-11-10 01:11 PM |
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Kick & Rec # 43 :) |
Dinger |
Jul-11-10 01:11 PM |
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Building on "FAILED" strategies ? |
bvar22 |
Jul-11-10 02:58 PM |
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The bottom line trumps all! nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 03:12 PM |
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"directing the flow of public money into private pockets" Exactly! |
scarletwoman |
Jul-11-10 03:27 PM |
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+10 |
LWolf |
Jul-11-10 04:00 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jul-12-10 12:36 AM |
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K&R and bookmarked. /nt |
Spheric |
Jul-11-10 03:31 PM |
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Same reason they've built every policy except their PR policy |
branders seine |
Jul-11-10 03:58 PM |
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Because this man was not ready to be president. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-11-10 04:10 PM |
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Would you have preferred McCain? |
KonaKane |
Jul-11-10 04:13 PM |
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you know the answer to that stupid question |
fascisthunter |
Jul-11-10 05:18 PM |
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Did you even read my post? |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-11-10 05:26 PM |
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No, not honest-deliberately obtuse |
Lorien |
Jul-11-10 08:15 PM |
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Stupid, boring, overused response. |
RetroLounge |
Jul-11-10 08:22 PM |
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Stuff your red herring - we would have preferred a more principled Democrat. |
Smashcut |
Jul-12-10 01:17 AM |
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That's the wrong question. The question is 'what would McCain |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-12-10 12:15 PM |
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Because that is what he campaigned on. |
ProSense |
Jul-11-10 04:15 PM |
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No, he didn't campaign on privatizing education and busting unions. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-11-10 05:31 PM |
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Of course not |
RetroLounge |
Jul-11-10 08:24 PM |
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Ted Kennedy wanted to improve education... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-11-10 05:42 PM |
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Points for good intentions, demerits for execution. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-11-10 11:12 PM |
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I essentially agree with this. I have been called an idealist... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-12-10 12:44 PM |
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Ted Kennedy never pushed the Arne Duncan plan and Teddy himself |
saracat |
Jul-11-10 10:54 PM |
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This should be an OP |
Stinky The Clown |
Jul-11-10 08:18 PM |
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Awesome. Simply awesome. |
Reader Rabbit |
Jul-11-10 04:39 PM |
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Kick and Recommended. |
Winston Wolf |
Jul-11-10 04:48 PM |
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k & r |
theaocp |
Jul-11-10 05:06 PM |
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If not by students learning the material then how ARE teachers to be evaluated |
txlibdem |
Jul-11-10 05:49 PM |
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You're funny... |
YvonneCa |
Jul-11-10 05:54 PM |
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no. student test scores, in aggregate, are a measure of class, pure & simple. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-11-10 06:40 PM |
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I can see by your post that you do not understand what |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 07:04 PM |
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K&R! If things don't change soon, they'll feel it in their campaign's finances this fall |
Fearless |
Jul-11-10 08:06 PM |
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I don't think they care anymore. We only give them chump change |
havocmom |
Jul-11-10 08:17 PM |
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K&R!! |
Fearless |
Jul-11-10 09:29 PM |
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It sounds as if the administration is imposing the same principles and |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Jul-11-10 08:17 PM |
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Arnie Duncan loves NCLB |
Chisox08 |
Jul-11-10 08:22 PM |
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Duncan DoNUT thinks he IS the President and Obama lets him believe it. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-11-10 10:30 PM |
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K&R |
RetroLounge |
Jul-11-10 08:23 PM |
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Beware of what you hoped for people, this goose of an administration is laying a |
MichiganVote |
Jul-11-10 08:31 PM |
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Thank you for posting this, Hannah Bell. Rec. nt |
bertman |
Jul-11-10 10:36 PM |
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It is awful to watch. |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-12-10 12:10 AM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Jul-12-10 12:37 AM |
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"A modern economic system demands . . . |
snot |
Jul-12-10 01:03 AM |
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kick |
blindpig |
Jul-12-10 09:33 AM |
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k |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-12-10 11:06 PM |
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.. |
mdmc |
Jul-16-10 04:49 PM |
#108 |
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