sandnsea
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Sat Jul-10-10 10:24 PM
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| 33. I'm appalled and shocked at this survey |
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I think most Obama supporters are. I believed the concept of the survey would be to delve into legal issues, like what would constitute job harrassment or discrimination, things like that.
Would you shop at the commissary if there was someone gay there? It's necessary to ask that?? Or, would you stop going to the officers club if you thought someone there was gay? You would?? Well, the officers club just got a lot snazzier then.
The whole thing was stomach-churning. I honestly could not believe anybody even thought to put those questions to paper, let alone that they were approved and by a number of people.
UnBeLievable.
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| -I'll make a deal with all the Obama defenders on the DADT survey. |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 09:15 PM |
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An interesting proposition. |
donco6 |
Jul-10-10 09:21 PM |
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I doubt it too, but since I made the pledge I'll have to hold my breath until Monday. |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 09:44 PM |
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actions tell the truth. the survey was an action. his words mean nothing without action to match nt |
msongs |
Jul-10-10 09:21 PM |
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the new retort for this sort of comment from the "defenders" is |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-10-10 09:29 PM |
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True! |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 09:49 PM |
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"Actions tell the truth"? What? So the invasion of Iraq was action, was it the truth? |
rhett o rick |
Jul-10-10 10:59 PM |
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Think I missed something . . . what survey? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-10-10 09:26 PM |
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Here |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 09:45 PM |
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the one Obama had nothing to do with creating. |
KonaKane |
Jul-10-10 09:46 PM |
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Did any of you bother to take a look at the preliminary results of the survey? |
KonaKane |
Jul-10-10 09:47 PM |
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Here's a link... |
RKP5637 |
Jul-10-10 09:53 PM |
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IMO the survey is being used as a ruse to keep DADT. It's an easy way out, |
RKP5637 |
Jul-10-10 09:34 PM |
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Pentagon: Sorry, soldiers say no. Congress: Sorry, we tried. Obama: Yes, we can! |
Bluebear |
Jul-10-10 09:40 PM |
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There you go again Mr. Negative!1 come on, be chirpy, stick |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-10-10 10:12 PM |
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I have that audio book. Listened to it twice! |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:16 PM |
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my mother got sucked into that positive thinking crap. they told |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-11-10 02:58 AM |
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I think the worst My Mom was in was that Men/Mars Women/Venus thing. |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 03:09 AM |
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my mother went right down the woo checkoff list and she gets |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-11-10 03:29 AM |
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I got swarmed at work when I called The Secret "crap". |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 03:40 AM |
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Female soldiers are being raped by heterosexuals and brass covers for rapists |
havocmom |
Jul-10-10 09:43 PM |
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I always expect the worst on LGBT issues. nt |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-10-10 10:04 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jul-10-10 10:17 PM |
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I agree. It's a win-win for administration on this. |
Safetykitten |
Jul-11-10 01:40 AM |
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Who is defending the survey? |
KonaKane |
Jul-10-10 09:45 PM |
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Nobody has suggested that Obama wrote the survey... |
Chan790 |
Jul-11-10 12:05 AM |
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Who said he wrote it or was responsible for it? The question |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 02:17 AM |
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Erroneous OP reframed: |
GeorgeGist |
Jul-11-10 06:43 AM |
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K&R |
Stinky The Clown |
Jul-10-10 09:47 PM |
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Will Pres. Obama run in 2012? |
ablewon |
Jul-10-10 09:53 PM |
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Exactly. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-10-10 09:57 PM |
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I haven't seen any DUer defend the survey |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 09:58 PM |
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Outrage is more fun than facts. |
KonaKane |
Jul-10-10 10:03 PM |
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+1...nt |
SidDithers |
Jul-11-10 12:04 AM |
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Why was this survey needed? Do you ask for an opinion about |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 02:35 AM |
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Ignorance is more comfortable than reality. |
tekisui |
Jul-11-10 07:44 AM |
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Neither have I ... |
Born_A_Truman |
Jul-10-10 10:04 PM |
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See post #17 |
ruggerson |
Jul-10-10 10:05 PM |
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I really don't know that person |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:52 PM |
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and I believe |
ruggerson |
Jul-10-10 10:56 PM |
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Uh, no. The offer as is stands. It's his military, so he should denounce the survey. |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:09 PM |
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I said that he should denounce the survey |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:12 PM |
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Oh' ... Ok! |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:17 PM |
#28 |
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I'm appalled and shocked at this survey |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:24 PM |
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I'm getting touchy on this thing. |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:28 PM |
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I really appreciate your solid, direct, uncompromising opposition |
QC |
Jul-10-10 11:10 PM |
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Oh yes, they have |
LostinVA |
Jul-10-10 10:19 PM |
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Failure to rebut it is defense by omission. |
Chan790 |
Jul-11-10 12:14 AM |
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It was leaked yesterday afternoon |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 12:16 AM |
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eek |
noamnety |
Jul-11-10 12:22 AM |
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Do you have week-ends with your family? |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 12:24 AM |
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as a veteran it just rubs me the wrong way |
noamnety |
Jul-11-10 12:40 AM |
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The topic is response to a survey |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 01:32 AM |
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There are a lot of soldiers who get no weekends off. |
noamnety |
Jul-11-10 01:51 AM |
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If you want free weekends you don't run for President of the U.S. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 02:51 AM |
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If there's an emergency, he won't have this weekend off either |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 11:35 AM |
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I didn't mean immediately. |
Chan790 |
Jul-11-10 12:24 AM |
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Rip him a new one |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 12:26 AM |
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I can't believe you actually posted that |
Tailormyst |
Jul-11-10 07:14 PM |
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I didn't see it as a hatchet job. |
boppers |
Jul-10-10 09:59 PM |
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Which is another bigoted question |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:14 PM |
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Yup, replace it with "Blacks," "Jews," "Catholics," etal |
LostinVA |
Jul-10-10 10:21 PM |
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I think it would be good information to have for training and education. |
boppers |
Jul-10-10 10:25 PM |
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How will your career be affected? |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:38 PM |
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You know why that career question is in there, right? |
boppers |
Jul-10-10 10:44 PM |
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It Does Not Matter |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 10:48 PM |
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Asking someone if they're bigoted.... is bigoted? |
boppers |
Jul-10-10 11:07 PM |
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Why do we need a $4 million survey of bigots? |
sandnsea |
Jul-10-10 11:30 PM |
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You're equating being "homosexulal/"lesbian" with "smelly pussies"? |
boppers |
Jul-10-10 11:46 PM |
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That was the implication in the survey |
sandnsea |
Jul-11-10 12:11 AM |
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You didn't answer the question she asked. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:01 AM |
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I don't think the decision made will be based on bigotry. |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 04:38 AM |
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What does that even mean? |
tekisui |
Jul-11-10 08:17 AM |
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This is the military. You can't just issue a directive and everything changes. |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 04:29 PM |
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What data or anecdotes are needed to correct a wrong that |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:40 PM |
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The poster wasn't equating that, the fucking SURVEY is |
LostinVA |
Jul-11-10 07:02 AM |
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I agree it's a push poll. Probably not the same way you see it, though. |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 04:47 PM |
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You do not base a group's civil rights on responses from a skewed survey! |
LostinVA |
Jul-11-10 07:00 AM |
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Uhm, no. The military has been doing this for many years. |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 06:02 PM |
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Ummm.... no...... they don't |
LostinVA |
Jul-11-10 06:17 PM |
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My response was to this: |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 06:30 PM |
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Of course you didn't. n/t |
QC |
Jul-10-10 10:53 PM |
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You don't think that is a bigoted question? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 02:55 AM |
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Asking a question about personal bigotry is not institutional bigotry per se. |
boppers |
Jul-11-10 04:58 AM |
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Of course you didn't. nt |
Bluebear |
Jul-11-10 07:28 PM |
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And if he DOES renounce the survey by the end of the day on Monday? |
scheming daemons |
Jul-10-10 10:18 PM |
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I will eat crow on this issue, and this one alone. |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:22 PM |
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I'll say, yet again, that he listens and corrects mistakes |
ruggerson |
Jul-10-10 10:24 PM |
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Good answer.... but I wasn't talking to you, ruggerson |
scheming daemons |
Jul-11-10 01:36 AM |
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So why don't you answer the fucking OP? |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 02:59 AM |
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Was there a question posed in the OP? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-11-10 03:17 AM |
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Jul-11-10 03:42 AM |
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Are you going to acknowledge that, or are you going to run away like you thought I would? |
Touchdown |
Jul-10-10 10:47 PM |
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Since you're so certain, why not offer to put your money where your mouth is? n/t |
QC |
Jul-10-10 10:58 PM |
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I will be astounded that he responded to some hostage deadline on a webforum. |
KonaKane |
Jul-11-10 12:49 AM |
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I just read the survey; while I think it's basically BS - |
haele |
Jul-10-10 11:58 PM |
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Jul-11-10 12:03 AM |
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My, you're certainly sensible tonight. |
jgraz |
Jul-11-10 12:47 AM |
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Wow - what an awful and callous reply. |
myrna minx |
Jul-11-10 12:55 AM |
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What's awful about it? I just thought he had something |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 12:59 AM |
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i like arugula, actually. |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:09 AM |
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when the first words of a post are; "I'll make a deal with all the Obama defenders" |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:08 AM |
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"I'll make a deal with you. If you do this, then I'll...um...and if you don't...I'll..." n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-11-10 02:31 AM |
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... |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 02:37 AM |
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i love that site too, but i'm just giving you my opinion |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:42 AM |
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Jul-11-10 02:53 AM |
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So you are opposed to the repeal of DADT! Okay! |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:05 AM |
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I really shouldn't be defending him, but |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 04:02 AM |
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um, no, i am not opposed to appealing it. |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:15 PM |
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Okay, that's good. I guess we'll find out what Obama thinks |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-11-10 03:32 PM |
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don't hold your breath waiting |
Skittles |
Jul-11-10 01:01 AM |
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so you're saying obama is fucking with ppl on this, in reality wanting to screw over the GLBT |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:23 AM |
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well, I don't think he necessarily is actively seeking to screw over GLBT |
Skittles |
Jul-11-10 03:22 AM |
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I didn't say this, Skittles did, but I'll answer for me: yes |
LostinVA |
Jul-11-10 07:07 AM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-11-10 01:03 AM |
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What if I come up to you and do that anyways? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-11-10 02:27 AM |
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well, i'll still run up to you and make fun of oasis, so at least you'll have something to do |
dionysus |
Jul-11-10 02:30 AM |
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I'll make a deal with you. If you see the Oasis movie... |
LoZoccolo |
Jul-11-10 02:35 AM |
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Jul-11-10 02:41 AM |
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Backing away slowly... |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jul-11-10 02:57 AM |
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Oh' Please! Like I'd want an Oasis fan in my house! |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 03:00 AM |
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Are those those two feuding brothers from Old America? |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jul-11-10 03:01 AM |
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Jul-11-10 03:58 AM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Jul-11-10 07:16 AM |
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Jul-11-10 08:55 AM |
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And that is a two way street |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-11-10 09:33 AM |
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That is false. |
KonaKane |
Jul-11-10 04:40 PM |
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Jul-11-10 08:57 AM |
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I truly doubt Obama is going to be moved by this hostage demand technique. |
KonaKane |
Jul-11-10 04:43 PM |
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Thanks for the kick, *ignored* |
Touchdown |
Jul-11-10 05:11 PM |
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Any updates on this, Touchdown? n/t |
LostinVA |
Jul-12-10 08:12 PM |
#128 |
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