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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:33 AM
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21. When I joined the Whiggs I knew I would have to compromise on some things...
... but I have stuck by my party.
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  -Why join a political party if you are unwilling to compromise? LoZoccolo  Jul-09-10 10:12 AM   #0 
  - The idea of 'party' should not take precedence over the common good.  ixion   Jul-09-10 10:14 AM   #1 
  - >Implying that the people vote Democratic despite the common good.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:16 AM   #3 
  - I've seen plenty of people put party politics before the common good...  ixion   Jul-09-10 10:22 AM   #11 
  - But, who decides what the "common good" is? I don't believe in...  TreasonousBastard   Jul-09-10 10:38 AM   #24 
  - What minority opinion would say, someone like me, hold that you don't?  boston bean   Jul-09-10 10:16 AM   #2 
  - Why do pro-corporate donors spend so much to defeat Democrats? n/t  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:18 AM   #5 
     - They also spend a lot of money on Democrats. It's called hedging your bets. n/t  Raineyb   Jul-09-10 10:59 AM   #35 
  - So, don't contribute if you aren't willing to capitulate?  Oregone   Jul-09-10 10:17 AM   #4 
  - Since when does compromise equal capitulate?  KonaKane   Jul-09-10 03:27 PM   #63 
  - But what about when your political party just ignores the opinions of the MAJORITY  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jul-09-10 10:19 AM   #6 
  - Call me Captain obvious  BootinUp   Jul-09-10 10:28 AM   #19 
  - And you blame the party for that? Politics is always a disgusting...  TreasonousBastard   Jul-09-10 10:45 AM   #29 
  - The Party is supposed to move with the base. Not the other way around.  Romulox   Jul-09-10 10:19 AM   #7 
  - Because a party is supposed to stand for something  notesdev   Jul-09-10 10:20 AM   #8 
  - >Implying that the party doesn't stand for anything.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:20 AM   #9 
  - you are inferring. nt  msongs   Jul-09-10 10:23 AM   #12 
  - Well, it stands for Wall Street, we know that much  notesdev   Jul-09-10 10:24 AM   #13 
  - That's not implying anything.  MedicalAdmin   Jul-09-10 10:37 AM   #22 
  - Are you just posting tombstone bait?  Oregone   Jul-09-10 10:37 AM   #23 
     - Same as it ever was.  Ignis   Jul-09-10 11:30 AM   #41 
     - That occured to me, too. He won;'t last long. nt  zanana1   Jul-11-10 05:11 AM   #70 
  - Take the realistic approach...  zanana1   Jul-09-10 10:26 AM   #15 
     - If one makes those assumptions  notesdev   Jul-09-10 10:38 AM   #25 
        - So you'll vote for the other party the next time?  zanana1   Jul-09-10 10:47 AM   #30 
           - Please stop throwing strawmen at me  notesdev   Jul-09-10 11:01 AM   #36 
              - I'll give you an example of how the Obama Admin. has improved my life...  zanana1   Jul-09-10 12:19 PM   #43 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-10 12:29 PM   #45 
                    - You definitely have an anger problem.  zanana1   Jul-11-10 04:45 AM   #69 
                    - I'll tell you what; I'll trade places with you, OK?  zanana1   Jul-11-10 05:24 AM   #71 
  - So when do the centrists start compromising? Or I should say, start compromising with the Left?  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 10:21 AM   #10 
  - Maybe you can name the Republican or independant that I endorsed over a Democrat ever.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:26 AM   #14 
  - telling people to vote for Lamont after he won the primary was your big compromise?  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 10:38 AM   #26 
     - Just because I haven't had to compromise with this one candidate...  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:55 AM   #31 
        - It's not a given that compromise will be good or bad until after the fact.  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 11:09 AM   #38 
           - Republicans have to compromise all the time.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 11:23 AM   #40 
              - Do you feel that Bush, Cheney, McCain and Palin were the RW's compromise candidates?  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 11:52 AM   #42 
              - "The" compromise candidates?  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 12:42 PM   #47 
              - "There are different degrees of compromise."  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 01:08 PM   #56 
              - P.S. Do you really think I wouldn't notice that you omitted John McCain from your list?  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 12:45 PM   #48 
              - P.S. Do you really think I wouldn't notice that you omitted John McCain from your list?  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 12:45 PM   #49 
                 - Um...this is my list, quoted verbatim from above......  Forkboy   Jul-09-10 01:05 PM   #52 
                    - I'm on crack rock today, which is why I wrote the original post.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 01:08 PM   #54 
              - but not about money & ruling class power. which is where the action is.  Hannah Bell   Jul-11-10 06:08 AM   #76 
  - P.S. As long as Kucinich has a better chance of winning than his primary opponents...  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 10:27 AM   #18 
     - Yup. And he keeps winning.  MineralMan   Jul-09-10 12:31 PM   #46 
  - Why join a political party that thinks compromise is ignoring you? n/t  joeybee12   Jul-09-10 10:27 AM   #16 
  - We are a two party, winner take all nation. That is reality...  Ozymanithrax   Jul-09-10 10:27 AM   #17 
  - Big or small, steps in the wrong direction are counter-productive  TheKentuckian   Jul-09-10 10:59 AM   #34 
     - It is a winner take all, two party system because it is legislated to be.  Ozymanithrax   Jul-09-10 01:33 PM   #60 
        - Take the system apart at the state level then. Two parties means an instant failure  TheKentuckian   Jul-09-10 08:39 PM   #68 
  - There is a huge difference between compromising-  asdjrocky   Jul-09-10 10:29 AM   #20 
  - bravo!  dana_b   Jul-09-10 01:13 PM   #59 
  - When I joined the Whiggs I knew I would have to compromise on some things...  MedicalAdmin   Jul-09-10 10:33 AM   #21 
  - You win the thread.  Romulox   Jul-09-10 10:41 AM   #28 
  - Politics is the art of compromise, but you never give up arguing your own principles  leveymg   Jul-09-10 10:39 AM   #27 
  - I agree with your post, but people often argue their principles in a way...  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 11:01 AM   #37 
  - P.S. Thank you for your thoughtful and respectful comments.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 01:12 PM   #58 
     - When people are disappointed they tend to feel betrayed and respond belligerently.  leveymg   Jul-09-10 03:23 PM   #62 
  - i must have missed the compromising.. all i see is conservative agenda continuing  meow mix   Jul-09-10 10:57 AM   #32 
  - Compromise is a two party act. Not a one sided act.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-09-10 10:59 AM   #33 
  - compromise is ok, betrayal is not ok n/t  Enrique   Jul-09-10 11:21 AM   #39 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-10 12:24 PM   #44 
  - Why join a political party if you don't have any principles you're willing to stand on?  stranger81   Jul-09-10 01:01 PM   #50 
  - >Implying that I have no principles.  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 01:05 PM   #51 
     - You said that, not me.  stranger81   Jul-09-10 01:07 PM   #53 
     - party loyalists usually don't. it's all about their team winning  jonnyblitz   Jul-09-10 01:08 PM   #55 
        - Why didn't I switch to Republican during the 2001-2005 period when they seemed invincible? n/t  LoZoccolo   Jul-09-10 01:09 PM   #57 
           - Same reason why Dallas Cowboys fans don't become Redskins fans  depakid   Jul-11-10 05:30 AM   #73 
  - Crap, LoZo. Now you've done it.  NYC_SKP   Jul-09-10 01:46 PM   #61 
  - Too many here have opted for "my way or the highway" especially on their pet issue.  KonaKane   Jul-09-10 03:30 PM   #64 
     - Agree completely.  JoePhilly   Jul-09-10 03:38 PM   #65 
  - the only game in town  mdmc   Jul-09-10 03:50 PM   #66 
  - Compromise is smart. Wise. But not when one side gives and the other side takes  Stinky The Clown   Jul-09-10 04:09 PM   #67 
  - Huh? Why eat raspberries if you like Beethoven?  Bonobo   Jul-11-10 05:27 AM   #72 
  - Nobody wants to compromise their beliefs.  LoZoccolo   Jul-11-10 11:21 AM   #77 
  - That's a valid question, for yourself, that is.  JHB   Jul-11-10 05:45 AM   #74 
  - There will always be portions of the party who will feel demoralized, if they let themselves be.  LoZoccolo   Jul-11-10 11:29 AM   #78 
  - "it was your responsiblity to convince the rest of the part to take your side"  Hannah Bell   Jul-11-10 06:05 AM   #75 
  - Principled politician = oxymoron.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-11-10 11:43 AM   #80 
  - Compromise on what? Basic principles or trivia?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-11-10 11:40 AM   #79 
 

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