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| -How in hell can someone "support" Arizona's anti-immigrant law? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 12:24 AM |
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As someone with conservative leanings on immigration, I find the AZ bill to be an abomination |
bluestateguy |
Jul-08-10 12:26 AM |
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I think illegal immigration is a problem, and one that should be addressed. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 12:31 AM |
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The real problem are employers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 12:39 AM |
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I doubt those are completely legit companies that hire illegal immigrants. |
dkf |
Jul-08-10 02:35 AM |
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Ever read "Fast Food Nation"? |
kimmylavin |
Jul-08-10 08:48 AM |
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You mean like oh TYSON foods? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 05:14 PM |
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Illegal immigration is exploitive |
Mimosa |
Jul-08-10 09:57 PM |
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As has been pointed out to you before, you're defending a law written by a hate group |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:51 AM |
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Self Delete |
wiggle-room |
Jul-08-10 09:21 PM |
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The Arizona law fuels abuse and racism directed at the legal immigrants. |
mmonk |
Jul-08-10 09:19 AM |
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the AZ law is profoundly racist and anyone who supports it is a racist. |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 06:40 PM |
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but despite the over the top psuedo-namecalling, I stand |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 09:12 PM |
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nothing directed at you personally |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 09:58 PM |
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Good to know. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 11:20 PM |
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no. |
datasuspect |
Jul-10-10 07:26 AM |
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Exactly so, Skip Intro |
Mimosa |
Jul-08-10 09:42 PM |
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It will most likely be ruled unconstitutional. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-08-10 12:37 AM |
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Did I say, or did I not say |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 12:39 AM |
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"Zealous" is not a negative comment. I freely admit to being zealous. If you mean to call me a |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 12:59 AM |
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Nice.. bravo |
disillusioned73 |
Jul-08-10 06:59 AM |
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you implied that with your title |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:05 AM |
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When I get "paraphrased" like that, I usually get kissed. nt |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 06:49 PM |
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Why are you generalizing to "lefties"? |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 02:02 AM |
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Jul-08-10 07:16 AM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jul-08-10 07:50 AM |
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actually I am paraphrasing but people like to pick nits |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:28 AM |
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Is your claim that a paraphrase can not be indicated |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 09:50 AM |
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How did this get to be the topic? |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 10:46 AM |
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I think you made a careless reply, maybe one that didn't convey what you intended, |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:08 PM |
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Your quotation marks are actually against the rules |
LostinVA |
Jul-08-10 07:49 AM |
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thanks for your concern and support |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:43 AM |
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Well why don't you offer us the details of how your |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 09:58 AM |
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what I think is that people should be more tolerant |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 10:35 AM |
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I was able to read the OP for myself, thanks. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 03:47 PM |
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Primacy Clause |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 12:41 AM |
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anything is possible when you put hate first in your life |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jul-08-10 12:46 AM |
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The framing has been the key . "ILLEGAL". is the emphasis. |
OHdem10 |
Jul-08-10 01:44 AM |
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"Illegals" pay taxes just like everyone else. They are funding Social Security right now. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:54 AM |
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You honestly think the majority of illegal immigrants pay into social security? |
dkf |
Jul-09-10 03:11 AM |
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NYT: How Immigrants Saved Social Security |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 03:54 AM |
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There is something completely irrational about the support for this law. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:58 AM |
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Since support for the AZ law is a sizable portion, if not a majority of the US |
kelly1mm |
Jul-08-10 06:43 AM |
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Majorities have supported absurd policies and laws throughout history |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-08-10 07:55 AM |
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Uh, in DEMOCRACY the majority rules. |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:12 AM |
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And that's why we have a constitution that guarantees certain rights |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 04:01 PM |
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Exactly |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 09:02 PM |
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*crickets* |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 09:15 PM |
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Are you kidding? I'm still waiting for your response upthread from yesterday. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:22 PM |
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Where you said I defended the law? But I didn't defend the law, in this thread or any other. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 11:16 PM |
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And again with the" feds not doing their job" talking point. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 01:07 PM |
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That doesn't even make sense. Racial profiling is illegal in this country. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 09:22 PM |
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I ask again |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 09:45 PM |
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I sure hope that, after reading your own post , you have enough sense to be embarrassed. nt |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 09:54 PM |
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As a matter of fact |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 10:08 PM |
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I absolutely don't have all the answers, but I can usually keep track of what a previous poster |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 10:19 PM |
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Strawman. This law profiles brown people |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:15 PM |
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Would you have a problem |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:14 PM |
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The Constitution grants rights to persons in the United States |
COLGATE4 |
Jul-08-10 10:35 PM |
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Hm, |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:10 PM |
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And where in any of the posts in this thread has anyone said that? Hmmm? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 09:51 PM |
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because the constitution of the united states doesn't deal with the civil or criminal administration |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:13 PM |
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Your post would be relevant if we lived in a functioning democracy. nt. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:35 PM |
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The majority is not a tyranny and might does not make right |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-09-10 08:05 AM |
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Lots of "real" motivations suck really badly. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:20 PM |
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i wonder why blacks could never understand this: |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:09 PM |
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Because there are a large number of fucking stupid angry bigots in the US |
old mark |
Jul-08-10 07:00 AM |
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Wake Up America... |
limit18 |
Jul-08-10 07:15 AM |
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I agree with you whole heartily.. |
disillusioned73 |
Jul-08-10 07:32 AM |
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Jul-08-10 08:18 AM |
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Hand me a link? Cause friends say the revised version |
Sentath |
Jul-08-10 09:11 AM |
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Yes, it's right wing bullshit. The Fed program "Secure Communities" |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 06:10 PM |
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They tried to rewrite it, remember? The "actual law" still depends upon |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 04:02 PM |
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Good; then I predict they will ask me if I can prove I'm not Canadian. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 06:21 PM |
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Gee, I wonder what forum you dropped in from? nt. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:24 PM |
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I am shocked by the fact that most Americans, apparently, support this POS law! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-08-10 08:23 AM |
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Why do we have borders? |
MyNameGoesHere |
Jul-08-10 08:25 AM |
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One of things people do not know |
Monique1 |
Jul-08-10 09:01 AM |
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K&R #4 n/t |
UTUSN |
Jul-08-10 09:32 AM |
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Comprehensive immigration reform increases all workers’ wages. |
pampango |
Jul-08-10 09:49 AM |
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factcheck.org: Economists say immigration, legal or illegal, doesn't hurt American workers. |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 01:08 AM |
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Fun DU activity! |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 10:02 AM |
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Indeed, because this longtime Arizonan still doesn't see a threat from the south. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 03:58 PM |
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Surprises me when I see any support for it too. From the ACLU on the subject, |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-08-10 06:55 PM |
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Again ...mixing it up so as to confuse the issue. |
L0oniX |
Jul-08-10 08:49 PM |
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They don't understand the concept of jurisdiction. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-08-10 08:57 PM |
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Here's the actual law... |
Balbus |
Jul-08-10 09:00 PM |
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Dunno |
ismnotwasm |
Jul-08-10 09:25 PM |
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Jul-08-10 09:52 PM |
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it's factually incorrect because filipinos aren't mexicans |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:03 PM |
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The Chandler Roundup of 1997 proves every point you made, too. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 10:59 PM |
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That was just---remarkable. Say "hi" to RimJob, ok? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 10:04 PM |
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Wrong. The law depends upon racial profiling |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:28 PM |
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Are you familiar with the Chandler Roundup? Methinks not, so here: |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 10:55 PM |
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It is? The ACLU is all wrong, how so? I don't see anything in |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-09-10 01:50 PM |
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Because... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-08-10 10:16 PM |
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It's easy when one is a racist and a nativist who is full of fear about "the other". |
political_Dem |
Jul-08-10 10:18 PM |
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Jul-09-10 04:29 AM |
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In Maricopa County, the sheriff is under Federal investigation for corruption. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 12:48 PM |
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It's tragic your fear has gotten the best of you--but there's no reason for it. I pity you, actually |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 12:56 PM |
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In what part of our otherwise* beautiful state do you reside? |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 01:09 PM |
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I see we've had a pizza delivery. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 01:42 PM |
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Gosh darn. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 01:48 PM |
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+2! |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 01:51 PM |
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Here is yet more proof of how stupid this law is |
SargeUNN |
Jul-08-10 11:19 PM |
#89 |
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