Bluenorthwest
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Thu Jul-08-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 37. Well why don't you offer us the details of how your |
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State handles your international border issues? If you were to speak about your own views, what your locality does and that sort of personal knowledge, rather than speaking about what you think other people meant by what they said, then rewriting them to present your version of their views, you would do better.
If you speak your own views, you don't need frames and false quotation marks to guide you though your insinuation making routine. Just say what you think. It is very easy.
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| -How in hell can someone "support" Arizona's anti-immigrant law? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 12:24 AM |
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As someone with conservative leanings on immigration, I find the AZ bill to be an abomination |
bluestateguy |
Jul-08-10 12:26 AM |
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I think illegal immigration is a problem, and one that should be addressed. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 12:31 AM |
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The real problem are employers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 12:39 AM |
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I doubt those are completely legit companies that hire illegal immigrants. |
dkf |
Jul-08-10 02:35 AM |
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Ever read "Fast Food Nation"? |
kimmylavin |
Jul-08-10 08:48 AM |
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You mean like oh TYSON foods? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 05:14 PM |
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Illegal immigration is exploitive |
Mimosa |
Jul-08-10 09:57 PM |
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As has been pointed out to you before, you're defending a law written by a hate group |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:51 AM |
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Self Delete |
wiggle-room |
Jul-08-10 09:21 PM |
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The Arizona law fuels abuse and racism directed at the legal immigrants. |
mmonk |
Jul-08-10 09:19 AM |
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the AZ law is profoundly racist and anyone who supports it is a racist. |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 06:40 PM |
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but despite the over the top psuedo-namecalling, I stand |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 09:12 PM |
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nothing directed at you personally |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 09:58 PM |
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Good to know. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 11:20 PM |
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no. |
datasuspect |
Jul-10-10 07:26 AM |
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Exactly so, Skip Intro |
Mimosa |
Jul-08-10 09:42 PM |
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It will most likely be ruled unconstitutional. |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-08-10 12:37 AM |
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Did I say, or did I not say |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 12:39 AM |
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"Zealous" is not a negative comment. I freely admit to being zealous. If you mean to call me a |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 12:59 AM |
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Nice.. bravo |
disillusioned73 |
Jul-08-10 06:59 AM |
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you implied that with your title |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:05 AM |
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When I get "paraphrased" like that, I usually get kissed. nt |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 06:49 PM |
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Why are you generalizing to "lefties"? |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 02:02 AM |
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Jul-08-10 07:16 AM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Jul-08-10 07:50 AM |
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actually I am paraphrasing but people like to pick nits |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:28 AM |
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Is your claim that a paraphrase can not be indicated |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 09:50 AM |
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How did this get to be the topic? |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 10:46 AM |
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I think you made a careless reply, maybe one that didn't convey what you intended, |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:08 PM |
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Your quotation marks are actually against the rules |
LostinVA |
Jul-08-10 07:49 AM |
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thanks for your concern and support |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 09:43 AM |
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Well why don't you offer us the details of how your |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 09:58 AM |
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what I think is that people should be more tolerant |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 10:35 AM |
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I was able to read the OP for myself, thanks. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 03:47 PM |
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Primacy Clause |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-08-10 12:41 AM |
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anything is possible when you put hate first in your life |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Jul-08-10 12:46 AM |
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The framing has been the key . "ILLEGAL". is the emphasis. |
OHdem10 |
Jul-08-10 01:44 AM |
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"Illegals" pay taxes just like everyone else. They are funding Social Security right now. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:54 AM |
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You honestly think the majority of illegal immigrants pay into social security? |
dkf |
Jul-09-10 03:11 AM |
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NYT: How Immigrants Saved Social Security |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 03:54 AM |
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There is something completely irrational about the support for this law. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 01:58 AM |
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Since support for the AZ law is a sizable portion, if not a majority of the US |
kelly1mm |
Jul-08-10 06:43 AM |
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Majorities have supported absurd policies and laws throughout history |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-08-10 07:55 AM |
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Uh, in DEMOCRACY the majority rules. |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:12 AM |
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And that's why we have a constitution that guarantees certain rights |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 04:01 PM |
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Exactly |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 09:02 PM |
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*crickets* |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 09:15 PM |
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Are you kidding? I'm still waiting for your response upthread from yesterday. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:22 PM |
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Where you said I defended the law? But I didn't defend the law, in this thread or any other. |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 11:16 PM |
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And again with the" feds not doing their job" talking point. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 01:07 PM |
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That doesn't even make sense. Racial profiling is illegal in this country. |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 09:22 PM |
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I ask again |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 09:45 PM |
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I sure hope that, after reading your own post , you have enough sense to be embarrassed. nt |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 09:54 PM |
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As a matter of fact |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 10:08 PM |
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I absolutely don't have all the answers, but I can usually keep track of what a previous poster |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 10:19 PM |
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Strawman. This law profiles brown people |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:15 PM |
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Would you have a problem |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:14 PM |
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The Constitution grants rights to persons in the United States |
COLGATE4 |
Jul-08-10 10:35 PM |
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Hm, |
minavasht |
Jul-08-10 11:10 PM |
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And where in any of the posts in this thread has anyone said that? Hmmm? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 09:51 PM |
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because the constitution of the united states doesn't deal with the civil or criminal administration |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:13 PM |
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Your post would be relevant if we lived in a functioning democracy. nt. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:35 PM |
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The majority is not a tyranny and might does not make right |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-09-10 08:05 AM |
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Lots of "real" motivations suck really badly. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:20 PM |
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i wonder why blacks could never understand this: |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:09 PM |
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Because there are a large number of fucking stupid angry bigots in the US |
old mark |
Jul-08-10 07:00 AM |
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Wake Up America... |
limit18 |
Jul-08-10 07:15 AM |
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I agree with you whole heartily.. |
disillusioned73 |
Jul-08-10 07:32 AM |
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Jul-08-10 08:18 AM |
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Hand me a link? Cause friends say the revised version |
Sentath |
Jul-08-10 09:11 AM |
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Yes, it's right wing bullshit. The Fed program "Secure Communities" |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 06:10 PM |
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They tried to rewrite it, remember? The "actual law" still depends upon |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 04:02 PM |
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Good; then I predict they will ask me if I can prove I'm not Canadian. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 06:21 PM |
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Gee, I wonder what forum you dropped in from? nt. |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 07:24 PM |
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I am shocked by the fact that most Americans, apparently, support this POS law! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-08-10 08:23 AM |
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Why do we have borders? |
MyNameGoesHere |
Jul-08-10 08:25 AM |
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One of things people do not know |
Monique1 |
Jul-08-10 09:01 AM |
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K&R #4 n/t |
UTUSN |
Jul-08-10 09:32 AM |
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Comprehensive immigration reform increases all workers’ wages. |
pampango |
Jul-08-10 09:49 AM |
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factcheck.org: Economists say immigration, legal or illegal, doesn't hurt American workers. |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 01:08 AM |
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Fun DU activity! |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-10 10:02 AM |
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Indeed, because this longtime Arizonan still doesn't see a threat from the south. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 03:58 PM |
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Surprises me when I see any support for it too. From the ACLU on the subject, |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-08-10 06:55 PM |
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Again ...mixing it up so as to confuse the issue. |
L0oniX |
Jul-08-10 08:49 PM |
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They don't understand the concept of jurisdiction. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-08-10 08:57 PM |
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Here's the actual law... |
Balbus |
Jul-08-10 09:00 PM |
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Dunno |
ismnotwasm |
Jul-08-10 09:25 PM |
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Jul-08-10 09:52 PM |
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it's factually incorrect because filipinos aren't mexicans |
datasuspect |
Jul-08-10 10:03 PM |
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The Chandler Roundup of 1997 proves every point you made, too. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 10:59 PM |
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That was just---remarkable. Say "hi" to RimJob, ok? |
Atticus |
Jul-08-10 10:04 PM |
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Wrong. The law depends upon racial profiling |
EFerrari |
Jul-08-10 10:28 PM |
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Are you familiar with the Chandler Roundup? Methinks not, so here: |
blondeatlast |
Jul-08-10 10:55 PM |
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It is? The ACLU is all wrong, how so? I don't see anything in |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-09-10 01:50 PM |
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Because... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-08-10 10:16 PM |
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It's easy when one is a racist and a nativist who is full of fear about "the other". |
political_Dem |
Jul-08-10 10:18 PM |
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Jul-09-10 04:29 AM |
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In Maricopa County, the sheriff is under Federal investigation for corruption. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 12:48 PM |
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It's tragic your fear has gotten the best of you--but there's no reason for it. I pity you, actually |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 12:56 PM |
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In what part of our otherwise* beautiful state do you reside? |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 01:09 PM |
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I see we've had a pizza delivery. |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-10 01:42 PM |
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Gosh darn. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-09-10 01:48 PM |
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+2! |
pinboy3niner |
Jul-09-10 01:51 PM |
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Here is yet more proof of how stupid this law is |
SargeUNN |
Jul-08-10 11:19 PM |
#89 |
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