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Thu Jul-08-10 09:41 AM
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| 76. Only in the first couple of elections |
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I suspect the quality of candidates would go up.
-Hoot
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| -How about NONE-Of-The-ABOVE in all elections? |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-07-10 10:19 PM |
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Yes, I love this idea... |
Imajika |
Jul-07-10 10:25 PM |
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And then what? nt. |
marybourg |
Jul-07-10 10:48 PM |
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THEN . . . if a party wants to actually put a candidate in office . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:13 AM |
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TPTB would never go for it |
hobbit709 |
Jul-07-10 10:53 PM |
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This would humiliate politicians (NOTA would win often) |
Oregone |
Jul-07-10 11:16 PM |
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Agreed, it's saying, "It's not that I don't care enough to vote, you just suck." nt |
spoony |
Jul-07-10 11:23 PM |
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Only in the first couple of elections |
hootinholler |
Jul-08-10 09:41 AM |
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Bingo, it seems only about three people actually read my entire OP. (sad) |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-08-10 10:41 AM |
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Yeah that's gonna work. |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:19 PM |
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You miss the point. I never said 'nobody' would win. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-08-10 10:11 AM |
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Every Democrat/Liberal/Progressive that votes "none of the above" helps empower the GOP |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-10 11:23 PM |
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Hard to believe that has to be explained here, of all places. |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:24 PM |
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Do you believe that politicians have to earn votes? |
spoony |
Jul-07-10 11:31 PM |
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The conservatives in this country will vote lock-step... |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-10 11:32 PM |
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Once again, do you believe they ought to earn our votes? |
spoony |
Jul-07-10 11:41 PM |
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What do you think a NOTA vote will accomplish, besides nothing? |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:59 PM |
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So you'll be rewarding people (GOP) that have done even LESS to earn our votes |
scheming daemons |
Jul-08-10 07:36 AM |
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It's logic! |
redqueen |
Jul-08-10 10:24 AM |
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Hey, cast your none of the above nifty cool symbolic vote. |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:47 PM |
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Right, because voting for Dems has been successful in ending war. |
spoony |
Jul-07-10 11:54 PM |
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And letting the GOP back into power will surely mean another one. |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:58 PM |
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No one wants to go backwards . . . we want to actually move forward . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:17 AM |
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You cannot be serious |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:36 AM |
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Jul-08-10 07:44 AM |
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just imagine, given their way, they could make the dems a fringe party in one election cycle. it's |
dionysus |
Jul-09-10 11:00 AM |
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Your approach guarantees a MORE conservative government |
scheming daemons |
Jul-08-10 07:44 AM |
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Wow, you would think that would be obvious. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 03:29 PM |
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So explain exactly how increasing the GOP numbers in congress will help in this goal? |
scheming daemons |
Jul-08-10 07:41 AM |
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Really? |
redqueen |
Jul-08-10 10:24 AM |
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Really . . . you think that the Democrats would continue to put up |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:15 AM |
#52 |
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Really... you think the solution is to empower Republican candidates? |
scheming daemons |
Jul-08-10 07:53 AM |
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Oh the drama. Oh the victimization. |
treestar |
Jul-07-10 11:27 PM |
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I see this isn't playing well with the "you OWE your vote to the party" contingent. nt |
spoony |
Jul-07-10 11:30 PM |
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Ah but it is to the "we want to be completely irrelevent" contingent. |
KonaKane |
Jul-07-10 11:48 PM |
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+1 |
Individualist |
Jul-08-10 09:19 AM |
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bwahahaha |
Lilith Velkor |
Jul-08-10 10:23 AM |
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Ah but never fear - Symbolic Vote Man is here! |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:03 AM |
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We are being given candidates the elites want us to have . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:21 AM |
#54 |
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No victimization, no drama, no helplessness, just misunderstanding... |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-08-10 10:21 AM |
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The Brewster's Millions Option, eh? |
MrScorpio |
Jul-07-10 11:27 PM |
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Who you gonna call? Ron Paul! *ducks* |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:01 AM |
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Seriously though, let's face it. Our votes don't mean shit unless you're wealthy enough. nt |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:07 AM |
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Really? I've never been required to state my income to register to vote. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:10 AM |
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Let me rephrase. |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:15 AM |
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Allow me to rephrase. You are wrong. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:21 AM |
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Yes, I campagined my ass off for Obama in the 2008 election, slept on many different couches, etc |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:26 AM |
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You helped get Obama elected, and you say elections dont work? |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:33 AM |
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We were hoodwinked. People wanted change, and Obama just said what he had to say to get elected. |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:36 AM |
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Have you bothered to look at Obama's accomplishments vs his disappointments? |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:38 AM |
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I'm speaking from a position of bias but the warrantless wiretapping and errosion of rights.. |
Dank Nugs |
Jul-08-10 12:45 AM |
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I hear you, i have my complaints about him too. But I'm talking about the overall picture |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:49 AM |
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I think we can question . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 12:36 AM |
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Unfortunately computer voting is . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 12:28 AM |
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I was on the Florida Voting Machine Task Force in 2003. |
Dr.Phool |
Jul-08-10 12:48 AM |
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Well . . . do you remember Theresa La Pore and the "butterfly ballot" . . .??? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:28 AM |
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Absolutely right. It's sad so many people in this thread went off on tangents. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-08-10 10:25 AM |
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Even Absentee Ballots are now being counted by computer .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 12:29 AM |
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Exactly. I got mine today for next months primary. |
Dr.Phool |
Jul-08-10 12:50 AM |
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I don't know if you're familiar with this long ago investigation . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:08 AM |
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How does "none of the above" fill a House or Senate seat? |
Skip Intro |
Jul-08-10 12:23 AM |
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Hey, it fills someone's ego and makes for a nifty symbolic act. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 12:34 AM |
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Actually, it's a better choice than what I've got on the ballot now. |
Dr.Phool |
Jul-08-10 12:53 AM |
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Which leaves you with nothing really, Good luck with that. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:03 AM |
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You're very threatened by voters stepping out of line for some reason. nt |
spoony |
Jul-08-10 01:27 AM |
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Out of line and into what, exactly? |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:35 AM |
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Okay how about this scenario? |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-08-10 10:35 AM |
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Sir, unless you can align any current candidate with either of those two tyrants, |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 03:31 PM |
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It's okay if you don't want to answer but my question is valid and pertinent. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-09-10 12:15 AM |
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You left out one bit of info in your scenario. |
Spike from MN |
Jul-09-10 10:27 AM |
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Does it matter if both candidates are corrupt? |
AnArmyVeteran |
Jul-09-10 03:45 PM |
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Hartmann was recently interesting on the Citizens United case a week or so ago... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 12:24 AM |
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How about voting in a primary? |
hfojvt |
Jul-08-10 12:29 AM |
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A lot depends on qualifying in your state. |
Dr.Phool |
Jul-08-10 01:01 AM |
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it's a great idea, gives the people more of a voice nt |
G_j |
Jul-08-10 12:31 AM |
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The end result of this is that the only people with more of a voice are the GOP |
scheming daemons |
Jul-08-10 07:37 AM |
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so you would limit people's choices for political considerations? |
G_j |
Jul-08-10 09:13 AM |
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No, no, there was a guy who tried that once, |
Q3JR4 |
Jul-08-10 12:52 AM |
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No you cannot do that, because it goes against the ruling elites |
Rex |
Jul-08-10 12:54 AM |
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The ruling elite loves to watch you throw away your vote on symbolism. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:04 AM |
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nice, offering the American people more choice is bad for the Dems |
G_j |
Jul-08-10 09:16 AM |
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What choice? |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 03:33 PM |
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And, btw . . . it's an idea that's been around for like 40 or more years!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:10 AM |
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Yeah talk about cutting edge...... |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:15 AM |
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How is doing the same thing over and again working for us -- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:23 AM |
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I can tell you what symbolic nothingness will do for us. |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:26 AM |
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Think you're taking things a little literally . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 01:32 AM |
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And I believe you are deluded if you think any of those folks has a snowballs chance in hell |
KonaKane |
Jul-08-10 01:38 AM |
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I'd certainly be voting for them . . . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-08-10 04:35 PM |
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Well that's one.... |
KonaKane |
Jul-09-10 12:20 AM |
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Thank you -- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-09-10 11:51 AM |
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ROFL |
dionysus |
Jul-09-10 10:57 AM |
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I like the idea, but I don't think it would work. |
Greyhound |
Jul-08-10 01:58 AM |
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I will happily vote for Pat Leahy and Peter Welch in November |
cali |
Jul-08-10 07:44 AM |
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Will NOT BE ALLOWED, as it would stop some vote stealing. |
Festivito |
Jul-08-10 08:07 AM |
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How about Don't F*ck Over Americans To Spite Democrats? |
IOKIYAL |
Jul-08-10 08:31 AM |
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There's a novel idea. Except it's not only Americans... |
redqueen |
Jul-08-10 10:25 AM |
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++ |
G_j |
Jul-08-10 03:28 PM |
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Great OP. |
Spike from MN |
Jul-09-10 10:40 AM |
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yay! let's not vote! that'll show em!! |
dionysus |
Jul-09-10 10:58 AM |
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I'm not shy about the write-in option on the ballot if the candidates listed are unacceptable. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-10 11:04 AM |
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Are you shy about giving us the election results of any of those write in candidates you voted for? |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-09-10 11:57 AM |
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Not at all. Che Guevarra got one vote in the 1994 congressional vote. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-10 02:02 PM |
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Che Guevara died 43 years ago and you voted for him in 1992? |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-09-10 04:50 PM |
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I don't think he minded. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-10 05:12 PM |
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This has been a libertarian hobby horse for years |
Recursion |
Jul-09-10 02:04 PM |
#102 |
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All that means is fewer and fewer Americans get to choose who governs... |
Spazito |
Jul-09-10 02:13 PM |
#103 |
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