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Sat Jul-03-10 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #820

828. He was in an easter egg called "The Unwashed Villagers:" random wilderness encounter.

http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/uv.htm

Look up his name there. Makes him a demigod by simply being attached to the greatest RPG to date.

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-Skinner and admins, I don’t think your rule clarifications deal with the core problem here in DU.	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 07:37 PM	#0
- So, what do you suggest?	GodlessBiker	Jul-01-10 07:39 PM	#1
- That's a vital question --- how do we bridge the gap?	Zhade	Jul-01-10 09:56 PM	#199
- Clearly calling those who disagree with you "Republicans" isn't going to work out.	Robb	Jul-01-10 10:04 PM	#205
- I have no problem with that, seeing as how it's an irrational statement...	Zhade	Jul-01-10 11:37 PM	#274
- Yes there is	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 01:05 AM	#344
- So who is the Republican/conservative in disguise? The person who	pnwmom	Jul-02-10 01:17 AM	#347
- Thats my point exactly	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 10:04 AM	#496
- So when people agree with both those statements, like me, that makes us conservatives?	pnwmom	Jul-02-10 03:42 PM	#641
- It`s hardly a gift. A four-year -old can manipulate a parent. A dog can manipulate it`s master.	fatbuckel	Jul-02-10 01:22 PM	#583
- You should know n/t	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 03:52 PM	#647
- I agree that those examples suggest something. It's just impossible to know for certain...	Zhade	Jul-02-10 05:52 PM	#713
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 03:53 AM	#376
- We need but one answer	howaboutme	Jul-02-10 07:55 PM	#745
- Again, what do you suggest?	GodlessBiker	Jul-02-10 08:13 PM	#751
- +1	chillspike	Jul-03-10 04:06 PM	#815
- This is no suggestion - merely wishful thinking: Wouldn't it be	Cal33	Jul-03-10 04:10 PM	#817
- Proud to rec sincere and well thought out post	havocmom	Jul-01-10 07:40 PM	#2
- I gave it a rec too...still didn't show.	CaliforniaPeggy	Jul-01-10 07:41 PM	#5
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 07:53 PM	#28
- And now it's at +9...	SidDithers	Jul-01-10 08:02 PM	#41
- San Francisky? Did you drive or did you flew?	Bonobo	Jul-01-10 08:08 PM	#55
- Don't confuse me with the Junior Woodchucks, Sidney	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-01-10 08:10 PM	#61
- +132 and counting...	SidDithers	Jul-02-10 07:06 AM	#407
- tell that to the 1 issue voters who vociferously defended the NRA in recent interactions I have had.	corkhead	Jul-02-10 09:57 AM	#493
- I tend to doubt that.	bobburgster	Jul-02-10 03:31 PM	#638
- I just rec'd it also, but it didn't show. Kind of makes	sabrina 1	Jul-01-10 08:37 PM	#100
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 07:41 PM	#3
- So, you're claiming that centrist Democrats are actually Republicans?	blogslut	Jul-01-10 07:41 PM	#4
- When they vote with Republicans,	donco6	Jul-01-10 07:44 PM	#10
- We arent talking about Congress people, were talking about DUers	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 07:45 PM	#13
- That's one group he mentioned, yes	donco6	Jul-01-10 07:47 PM	#16
- "Here in DU"	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 07:49 PM	#23
- Oh no?	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-01-10 07:58 PM	#36
- If you constantly bash Barack Obama well... you might be	CBR	Jul-01-10 07:59 PM	#37
- " I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 08:02 PM	#39
- ""Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do."	CBR	Jul-01-10 08:04 PM	#45
- "Admiration is the daughter of ignorance."	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 08:06 PM	#49
- SNAP!	rateyes	Jul-02-10 12:22 AM	#323
- Wait a minute	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 12:24 AM	#326
- oh snap and a half!	Donnachaidh	Jul-02-10 08:31 AM	#448
- filias veritatis	SemperEadem	Jul-02-10 09:36 AM	#481
- Yes	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-01-10 08:06 PM	#48
- I could hang out in the woods instead -- the content is almost	CBR	Jul-01-10 08:08 PM	#56
- If you equate legitimate criticism with bashing,	Individualist	Jul-01-10 08:29 PM	#89
- utter hogwash and simpleton logic.	tomp	Jul-01-10 11:22 PM	#262
- Bashing Obama is not just for Repugs	lark	Jul-02-10 01:20 PM	#580
- Yes they do give heartaches, but keep in mind...	bobburgster	Jul-02-10 03:36 PM	#640
- Really Depends on the Bashing	liberalmike27	Jul-02-10 03:55 PM	#649
- if you support charlie crist	SwampG8r	Jul-01-10 11:11 PM	#250
- Thank you!	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-01-10 11:46 PM	#282
- +billions and billions(as Carl Sagan never actually said).	Ken Burch	Jul-01-10 11:53 PM	#290
- He didn't?	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-02-10 12:03 AM	#299
- He said "billions"	Ken Burch	Jul-02-10 12:14 AM	#315
- Or Captain Kirk never saying "Beam Me Up Scotty"?	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-02-10 12:26 AM	#327
- i think once i heard	SwampG8r	Jul-02-10 12:35 AM	#333
- As I recall it, it was Johnny Carson who actually turned it into "billions and billions"	Ken Burch	Jul-02-10 04:14 PM	#662
- Maybe it's the "flashback echo" in your mind.	Ken Burch	Jul-02-10 12:53 AM	#339
- He wrote a book titled "Billions and Billions"	bananas	Jul-02-10 06:09 AM	#389
- At that point, he was "in on the joke".	Ken Burch	Jul-02-10 04:13 PM	#661
- Except that... who the hell in the general public in Florida knows who Meek is?	1monster	Jul-02-10 05:43 AM	#384
- +1 nt	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 01:42 AM	#349
- The point is, if the DLC Centrist Dems,	truedelphi	Jul-02-10 02:34 PM	#613
- The OP is calling DUers who don't agree with him, Republicans	blogslut	Jul-01-10 07:46 PM	#14
- Yup. That's it in a nutshell. nt	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 07:52 PM	#27
- not really	CreekDog	Jul-01-10 07:58 PM	#35
- The OP is calling right wing Democrats right wing Democrats, which they are.	robinlynne	Jul-01-10 08:28 PM	#85
- Delete. Posted to wrong place.	sinkingfeeling	Jul-02-10 07:50 AM	#421
- Please quote the author when he stated that those that dont agree with him	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 09:32 PM	#184
- Is lying about what was posted within the rules or a violation	havocmom	Jul-01-10 09:38 PM	#187
- Yep, does that to anyone who questions anything he says. I stated a simple fact about	sinkingfeeling	Jul-02-10 07:53 AM	#422
- No "he" asked you if you supported the blue dogs. I dont believe you answered.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 09:09 AM	#469
- No, I said the bill could not get through the House without the help of some Republicans because	sinkingfeeling	Jul-02-10 09:57 AM	#492
- The OP did not	spiritual_gunfighter	Jul-02-10 08:37 AM	#452
- When the OP telling the truth is the issue, things are dysfunctional.	Romulox	Jul-02-10 09:05 AM	#467
- So when Feingold votes with the Republicans almost more than anyone else	grantcart	Jul-01-10 08:05 PM	#46
- Apparenlty he has a 'get out of Republican jail free' card	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:08 PM	#54
- really? on what planet is this?	robinlynne	Jul-01-10 08:29 PM	#86
- Deleted sub-thread	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:49 PM	#114
- here you go	grantcart	Jul-01-10 08:53 PM	#120
- The source of those paragraphs is Blue Wave News	Individualist	Jul-01-10 08:55 PM	#126
- and the source of the statistics is Feingold's voting record	grantcart	Jul-02-10 12:13 AM	#313
- You're ignoring the reasons he voted that way. That doesn't make him a Blue Dawg	Major Hogwash	Jul-02-10 09:47 AM	#484
- No its not	grantcart	Jul-02-10 12:54 PM	#571
- Yes it is. REasons matter and putting someone who has stated that he wants improvements and stated	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 04:07 PM	#658
- Voting for things they don't agree with makes the real point. Their protestations then ring hollow.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 07:48 PM	#743
- Yeah, the same way 'Kucinich votes with the Republicans'. Please	sabrina 1	Jul-03-10 12:44 AM	#780
- Is Obama?	dflprincess	Jul-01-10 10:08 PM	#208
- You mean like Russ Feingold? (nt)	Tarheel_Dem	Jul-01-10 08:12 PM	#66
- LOL, you said "centrist". He he. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 07:45 PM	#11
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 07:48 PM	#18
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 09:09 PM	#145
- Happy tree friends?	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 01:49 AM	#352
- Kids these days.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 08:02 PM	#747
- Honestly, I had no idea.	Enthusiast	Jul-03-10 01:58 AM	#783
- Today's "Centrist Democrats" Are Roughly Reagan Republicans	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 07:45 PM	#12
- Well said!	Hatchling	Jul-01-10 08:55 PM	#125
- true	SwampG8r	Jul-01-10 11:18 PM	#256
- And they have bought into	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 01:50 AM	#354
- Some here are to the right of Poppy Bush and Nixon, imo. nt	Romulox	Jul-02-10 09:06 AM	#468
- To the Right of Nixon as well, even to the Right of Reagan on a few issues. nt	Lorien	Jul-02-10 10:50 AM	#518
- not what the OP said	CreekDog	Jul-01-10 07:57 PM	#34
- "There is a growing number of bad Democrats (DINO's) that vote Republican."	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 08:02 PM	#40
- yes, not necessarily for Republicans but with them on legislation.	CreekDog	Jul-01-10 08:57 PM	#128
- how could anyone dispute that?	SwampG8r	Jul-01-10 11:20 PM	#260
- The problem is that, like the goal posts, the "center" has moved quite some distance...	villager	Jul-01-10 08:03 PM	#42
- more or less	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:09 PM	#60
- You know the Senate was 1 vote from getting the bill on UI to the floor. Snowe/ Collins are on board	laughingliberal	Jul-01-10 08:14 PM	#68
- Did anybody here support him for this vote?	Telly Savalas	Jul-01-10 08:48 PM	#113
- I don't see anyone posting OPs excoriating him either. But they often do when more left leaning	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 09:55 AM	#491
- First of all Dems who vote like Republicans are not Centrist. They are right-wing.	robinlynne	Jul-01-10 08:27 PM	#82
- The OP specifically mentions DLC "New-Democrats" which	NorthCarolina	Jul-02-10 07:42 AM	#418
- Yes, they are. The new center is the old "right wing"	Lorien	Jul-02-10 10:49 AM	#516
- Ben Nelson is a Republican	lark	Jul-02-10 01:11 PM	#577
- If you are old enough to remember the Republican party of	truedelphi	Jul-02-10 02:24 PM	#609
- Politically, the goals of the centrist Democrats (DLC New Dems)	NorthCarolina	Jul-04-10 12:47 PM	#837
- Its clear you spend no time on DU whatsoever.	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 07:43 PM	#6
- +1. nt	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 07:47 PM	#15
- Good post...	SidDithers	Jul-01-10 07:51 PM	#25
- you not only figured that out, you phrased it perfectly. Thanks.	KittyWampus	Jul-01-10 07:51 PM	#26
- Yeah	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:05 PM	#47
- oh, I see. The "New Democrats" are now "Liberal Democrats." yeah, right. whatever.	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 08:11 PM	#62
- Seems to me like we are talking about two different things. I'm talking about DU,	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 08:16 PM	#70
- uh, no. (nt)	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 08:21 PM	#75
- sounds like crickets to me	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:22 PM	#76
- What a thought-provoking post	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 08:47 PM	#111
- agreed	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:22 PM	#77
- I don't really see what your saying.	Usrename	Jul-01-10 09:03 PM	#134
- I know for a fact that nobody that here that isnt a troll thinks that...	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 09:07 PM	#143
- I don't think it's a very exteme view at all.	Usrename	Jul-01-10 09:47 PM	#194
- i have been told	SwampG8r	Jul-01-10 11:31 PM	#270
- Interesting distortion there - sounds very Orwellian	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:21 PM	#74
- +1000	stranger81	Jul-01-10 09:06 PM	#139
- Oooo, now the addition of "chuckes" gives a whole new meaning to Patronizing	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 09:08 PM	#144
- There's an organized talking points campaign for the "centrists" to appropriate "progressive"	Romulox	Jul-02-10 09:11 AM	#471
- Actually, we progressives are liberal Democrats. The Democrats the Op refers to are	robinlynne	Jul-01-10 08:30 PM	#90
- Ah yes start out your argument with that. Where in your opinion do the DLC	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 09:22 PM	#173
- One side doesnt spit fireballs at the DLC, because they dont think they matter in any way anymore	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 09:25 PM	#176
- How funny!	Individualist	Jul-01-10 09:45 PM	#190
- I think maybe it's you that isn't spending a lot of time on DU	spiritual_gunfighter	Jul-02-10 08:44 AM	#456
- It's clear that you spend no time on DU whatsoever. nt	Lorien	Jul-02-10 10:52 AM	#520
- +1. Well said. Thanks for being inclusive.	Kind of Blue	Jul-01-10 09:33 PM	#185
- +1 thank you	Hekate	Jul-02-10 02:32 AM	#366
- Thank you MadBadger.	berni_mccoy	Jul-02-10 06:46 AM	#403
- Interesting definition	droidamus2	Jul-02-10 07:46 AM	#419
- Your analysis is more accurate.	ColesCountyDem	Jul-02-10 08:37 AM	#451
- Yay! Have you seen today's pictures of Obama looking cool?	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 07:43 PM	#7
- That picture makes me feel all funny inside!!! n/t	QC	Jul-01-10 08:37 PM	#99
- Wow.(nt)	redqueen	Jul-01-10 07:43 PM	#8
- I'm wit' u, bud. K and R nt	Smarmie Doofus	Jul-01-10 07:44 PM	#9
- Don't the new rules say that you're not supposed to be accusing Democrats here	pnwmom	Jul-01-10 07:48 PM	#17
- Aren't there Republicans	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 01:58 AM	#357
- There are plenty of non-Democrats on DU masquerading as Democrats...nt	SidDithers	Jul-02-10 06:03 AM	#387
- Yes!	ericblair	Jul-02-10 07:02 PM	#727
- The 'true progressives' here are some of the most intolerant	geek tragedy	Jul-02-10 08:48 AM	#460
- Duzy!!!! n/t	spiritual_gunfighter	Jul-02-10 12:06 PM	#551
- Hear! Hear!	HughMoran	Jul-03-10 01:00 PM	#798
- Agreed. It comes down to this:	Bonobo	Jul-01-10 07:48 PM	#19
- I agree. If the owners of DU want a safe Party/Administration bubble,	tekisui	Jul-01-10 08:28 PM	#84
- duzy	SwampG8r	Jul-01-10 11:34 PM	#271
- Sadly, no	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 11:53 PM	#291
- i know jeff stopped	SwampG8r	Jul-02-10 12:33 AM	#332
- Empty as it is.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 12:56 AM	#341
- Did you ever stop to consider that the owners of DU might support the DLC themselves?	earth mom	Jul-01-10 07:48 PM	#20
- What evidence of that might you have?	MineralMan	Jul-01-10 08:03 PM	#43
- That's one of the rumors that runs rampant someplace else. That	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 08:07 PM	#51
- One can review the recent gang-tombstoning	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 08:13 PM	#67
- I pay absolutely no attention to who comes and who goes here.	MineralMan	Jul-01-10 08:15 PM	#69
- +1	Individualist	Jul-01-10 08:33 PM	#93
- they were so pissed they couldn't shit on democrats freely, so they asked to be banned.	dionysus	Jul-02-10 10:47 AM	#514
- Al From disagrees with you that their influence is overrated.	Individualist	Jul-01-10 08:35 PM	#95
- "1998"??????????? n/t	emulatorloo	Jul-02-10 02:37 PM	#615
- You have a problem with '98? Here are his comments from 2009!!!!!!	Individualist	Jul-02-10 04:28 PM	#673
- I still think he is a delusional idiot. He can say anything he wants about his supposed "influence"	emulatorloo	Jul-04-10 12:04 PM	#832
- Ah, the DLC meme. How tired. How sad.	MineralMan	Jul-01-10 08:18 PM	#72
- There's an even sadder meme	Moochy	Jul-01-10 08:59 PM	#132
- +1000 lol	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:06 PM	#140
- Hear, hear!	Individualist	Jul-01-10 09:14 PM	#156
- Now that's really unfair to Satan	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-02-10 12:13 AM	#314
- Zing!	Lorien	Jul-02-10 10:54 AM	#523
- WHAT!?! No they don't!	Odin2005	Jul-01-10 08:55 PM	#124
- I think the discussion, or the tension, is engendered by what DU started as, vs. what it may have...	villager	Jul-01-10 09:07 PM	#142
- Great observation...	Larry Ogg	Jul-02-10 12:34 PM	#568
- If you are under the belief that as far as bad economic times, we haven't seen anything yet -	truedelphi	Jul-02-10 02:45 PM	#618
- I heard a lot about these elite organizations	Larry Ogg	Jul-02-10 08:03 PM	#749
- Yep, most people want to be able to "pretend" that	truedelphi	Jul-03-10 01:51 PM	#801
- things aren't always as they seem ... (nt)	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:09 PM	#148
- There's madness afoot here, Odin	Hekate	Jul-02-10 02:42 AM	#368
- support or supported by?	havocmom	Jul-01-10 08:57 PM	#131
- "They will not answer questions like why won't Pres Obama fix the..."	Boojatta	Jul-01-10 07:48 PM	#21
- nice	redqueen	Jul-01-10 08:43 PM	#104
- You did not misunderstand. Those that are lock-step Democrats will not	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 11:07 PM	#246
- Sorry I missed your reply. I think you understand. I admit I stumbled	rhett o rick	Jul-04-10 02:21 PM	#842
- Plus there is the Group Hijack Attack.	Warren Stupidity	Jul-01-10 07:49 PM	#22
- +1000 Thank you n/t	Catherina	Jul-01-10 08:29 PM	#
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:39 PM	#102
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:47 PM	#109
- +10000000	Moochy	Jul-01-10 09:18 PM	#162
- Thanks. Whatever I posted must have been pretty cool.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 01:47 PM	#592
- A wink is as good as a nod	Moochy	Jul-02-10 05:45 PM	#711
- Fuck. There goes my beer AND my laptop screen.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 07:24 PM	#732
- Oh, like this thread for instance?	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 08:54 PM	#121
- crickets As expected.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 12:17 AM	#320
- "a conscious effort to exploit The New Rules in order to suppress dissent"	Ignis	Jul-01-10 08:56 PM	#127
- they are virtual ants	Warren Stupidity	Jul-01-10 09:15 PM	#157
- I'd say that's a pretty generous comparison.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 05:16 PM	#699
- +1,000,000,000,000	Odin2005	Jul-01-10 08:57 PM	#130
- Exactly right n/t	MissDeeds	Jul-01-10 11:02 PM	#237
- There's a mess o projection going on too	havocmom	Jul-02-10 09:04 PM	#761
- I have some questions for you.	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 07:50 PM	#24
- One of the main problems here is that as soon as you disagree	CBR	Jul-01-10 07:53 PM	#29
- And thats exactly what the OP is doing	MadBadger	Jul-01-10 07:55 PM	#32
- The OP took it further and said that anyone	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 07:57 PM	#33
- Please give the quote from the OP that says that. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 11:14 PM	#253
- "There is a growing number of bad Democrats (DINO's) that vote Republican."	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 09:50 AM	#487
- well, you gotta feel pure somehow! CRUISE MISSLES!!11!!	dionysus	Jul-02-10 10:49 AM	#517
- I'm still trying to figure out why anybody here should be forced to answer	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 10:57 AM	#524
- in my opinion, what is being inferred is if you support obama you're not a True Liberal (tm) dammit!	dionysus	Jul-02-10 11:04 AM	#527
- I think he's saying there should be a rule banning Obama supporters	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 11:15 AM	#529
- The labels are tossed around by all sides and is always unproductive.	tekisui	Jul-01-10 08:30 PM	#91
- That was a very, very reasonable thing to say.	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 08:34 PM	#94
- Thanks for the matched response.	tekisui	Jul-01-10 08:44 PM	#106
- Ok, you tell me why the Pres doesnt fix the Bush DOJ? When I ask that, you guys always just attack	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 09:25 PM	#178
- crickets	Individualist	Jul-01-10 10:03 PM	#204
- Sounds like a legitimate	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 02:05 AM	#362
- It's a pretty meaningless question	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 04:15 AM	#379
- I could give you a list but not sure that would change anything.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 08:09 AM	#425
- Here was Clinton's fix for the first Bush "Justice" department	Moochy	Jul-02-10 09:48 AM	#485
- Obama has been slightly slower, but had nominated 67 new ones by April this year	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 10:02 AM	#494
- More from the wikipedia article I posted that bolsters your point	Moochy	Jul-02-10 10:09 AM	#499
- Nonanswer.	Individualist	Jul-02-10 10:08 AM	#497
- Possibly because the Senate won't confirm his nominees	Hippo_Tron	Jul-02-10 11:28 PM	#775
- Wow. A truly challenging post that confronts a lot of my conflicted feelings directly.	Mike 03	Jul-01-10 07:54 PM	#30
- Clearly you are outrage challenged.	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 07:55 PM	#31
- Outrage = pout= pony = lame. nt	Bonobo	Jul-01-10 08:07 PM	#50
- That was a very desperate attempt to put words in my mouth. I pity you. nt	DevonRex	Jul-01-10 08:08 PM	#57
- Was that supposed to be funny?	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:23 PM	#80
- If it was, it failed miserably...nt	SidDithers	Jul-02-10 07:20 AM	#414
- I didnt say failure. But the conflict in DU is between the progressives and the DLC sympathizer,	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 09:29 PM	#182
- End corporate rights now!	Lint Head	Jul-01-10 08:02 PM	#38
- I still think we support President Obama and the Democrats BUT	Bitwit1234	Jul-01-10 08:03 PM	#44
- K&R n/t	muffin1	Jul-01-10 08:07 PM	#52
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:07 PM	#53
- "Reagan Democrats"?! and just who the hell are you, again?	Hekate	Jul-02-10 03:02 AM	#371
- Have you read the statement from the "corporatist" group	ProSense	Jul-01-10 08:08 PM	#58
- I asked the same questions a few days ago... it is depressing.	SunnySong	Jul-01-10 08:09 PM	#59
- Nice post	malaise	Jul-01-10 08:11 PM	#63
- Unrec for calling other Liberals "conservatives". nt	johnaries	Jul-01-10 08:12 PM	#64
- It is confusing to know what to call a Democrat who is voting with the Republicans to block UI.	laughingliberal	Jul-01-10 08:22 PM	#78
- Conservative, rightwing, or asshole all work for me. nt.	Warren Stupidity	Jul-01-10 08:27 PM	#83
- Why "or?" I say "and."	Ignis	Jul-01-10 08:32 PM	#92
- 'or' is inclusive not exclusive.	Warren Stupidity	Jul-01-10 08:35 PM	#97
- Boolean logic fight, behind the computer lab. Be there.	Ignis	Jul-01-10 08:42 PM	#103
- i always bet	SwampG8r	Jul-02-10 12:15 AM	#318
- Don't MAKE me put on an MC Frontalot album!	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:46 AM	#537
- Origin of the Species is one of my favorite songs ever!	Zhade	Jul-03-10 08:07 PM	#824
- I call them what they are. Republicans.	Raineyb	Jul-01-10 09:10 PM	#150
- But I have not heard ONE person support Nelson. Maybe I missed it but I don't think anyone here	OregonBlue	Jul-01-10 10:37 PM	#223
- With all due respect, I could give a rodent's behind what trolls reading our site think.	laughingliberal	Jul-02-10 12:12 AM	#310
- My problem is his suggestion that those here on DU that	johnaries	Jul-01-10 11:45 PM	#281
- Unrec your unrec for lame attempt to redefine "Liberal"	Sebastian Doyle	Jul-01-10 08:29 PM	#87
- Actually, I think it's the OP who's trying to redefine "Liberal".	johnaries	Jul-02-10 02:02 AM	#358
- "That places me somewhere between Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. "	fascisthunter	Jul-02-10 07:43 PM	#739
- IMO the only thing worse than a neocon is a neocon enabler.	Individualist	Jul-01-10 08:39 PM	#101
- And how many of those neo-con enablers are here on DU?	johnaries	Jul-02-10 02:04 AM	#361
- DLC is a stealth organization	Individualist	Jul-02-10 10:11 AM	#500
- Blue Dog's, New Dem's and DLC'rs are not Liberals nor do they claim to be.	harun	Jul-01-10 09:47 PM	#193
- And none of those are here. At least not that I've seen. nt	johnaries	Jul-02-10 02:03 AM	#360
- If they aren't then maybe the rules of the site should reflect that distinction?	harun	Jul-02-10 08:42 AM	#455
- Respectfully, you have mischaracterized some of the problems you see	KonaKane	Jul-01-10 08:12 PM	#65
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:35 PM	#98
- I am acknowledging the way our system works (otherwise known as reality)	KonaKane	Jul-01-10 08:50 PM	#116
- He COULD stop the discharges with a stroke of a pen. And this has been pointed out over and over.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 06:26 PM	#717
- Please explain how a president can single handedly reverse an act of Congress	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 11:31 PM	#776
- You say he doesnt have the power to dump DADT. That says a lot. GWBush seemed to have the power to	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 11:19 PM	#258
- Respectfully, you are wrong in this case. DADT is a congressional act	KonaKane	Jul-04-10 02:08 PM	#841
- I appreciate respectful discussion. I fully understand the limitations facing the Pres	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 05:03 PM	#691
- Some nice thinking there. Of course	Jakes Progress	Jul-01-10 08:18 PM	#71
- Really the patronizing air of this post is in a class by itself.	grantcart	Jul-01-10 08:18 PM	#73
- Patronizing is a good word.	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 08:29 PM	#88
- I don't think the point was	POAS	Jul-01-10 08:52 PM	#117
- K&R only you forgot to mention an HCR bill that forces Americans to purchase a product from a priva	amborin	Jul-01-10 08:23 PM	#79
- Why won't he dump DADT?	tranche	Jul-01-10 08:26 PM	#81
- The only thing that no one should be called is discharged	Bluenorthwest	Jul-01-10 08:46 PM	#108
- What? People are discharged from the services every day.	KonaKane	Jul-01-10 09:09 PM	#146
- Obviously you understood exactly what I meant	Bluenorthwest	Jul-02-10 08:42 AM	#454
- Yes, I caught your attempt to redefine a term for your own ends.	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 03:51 PM	#644
- This entire OP is confusing	ProSense	Jul-01-10 08:35 PM	#96
- Does the OP mention "liberals"? The OP calls question to those that lock-step	rhett o rick	Jul-01-10 11:30 PM	#266
- You seem to be calling for anyone who always supports Obama to be thrown off DU	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 04:29 AM	#380
- Seems to be the case	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 07:11 AM	#409
- Nobody here supports GWB policies	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 07:10 AM	#408
- So you think the Pres is wrong to continue the Patriot Act, the MCA,	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 07:41 AM	#417
- Yes	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 08:20 AM	#438
- I was a Republican until Richard Nixon. Been a Democrat since.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 08:47 AM	#459
- Lots of people disagree with some of his stands but still	geek tragedy	Jul-02-10 08:49 AM	#461
- Enablers of bad policy would be my take.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 06:54 PM	#725
- How does one 'fight' against policies?	geek tragedy	Jul-02-10 07:09 PM	#728
- Just Because Something Hasn't Happened YET Doesn't Mean It Never Will	Beetwasher	Jul-01-10 08:44 PM	#105
- When GW Bush waged war, the liberals were in the streets protesting. Why arent we still protesting	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 09:01 AM	#466
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 10:53 AM	#521
- You're far more trusting of public officials who don't even know you exist than I am.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 06:55 PM	#726
- How do we know you are who you say you are? For all we know, you	Tarheel_Dem	Jul-01-10 08:46 PM	#107
- Why hasn't Skinner posted? Has he been tombstoned?	leftstreet	Jul-01-10 08:47 PM	#110
- Here's my impression of Skinner reading this thread...	Boojatta	Jul-01-10 09:11 PM	#153
- Holiday weekend.	havocmom	Jul-01-10 09:41 PM	#188
- Apparently you haven't figured it out yet that us lefty's are just along for the ride here.	L0oniX	Jul-01-10 08:47 PM	#112
- don't you mean 'miscreants'?	Moochy	Jul-01-10 08:52 PM	#118
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 08:49 PM	#115
- "UnReKKK?"	Ignis	Jul-01-10 08:55 PM	#123
- You're new here, aren't you. n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 08:57 PM	#129
- No answer? Just snark? n/t	Catherina	Jul-01-10 08:59 PM	#133
- Ah, it's a GROUP deal. Fine. Uh, I QUOTED your pal and THAT is snark?!1	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:05 PM	#136
- No you didn't. That poster asked you why you used KKK. Your answer was to ridicule and then snark.	Catherina	Jul-01-10 09:20 PM	#168
- I'm YOUR fellow poster here, but THAT don't seem to be the same thing.	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:25 PM	#177
- That post was deleted. Can you answer without violating a rule?	tekisui	Jul-02-10 07:18 AM	#413
- Yeah, I've only been here 7 years. Mea fucking culpa.	Ignis	Jul-01-10 09:04 PM	#135
- Well, I don't know what you're accusing me of - being KKK?!1 That's what I responded to. n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:07 PM	#141
- I suggest you consult a dictionary re: "asking" vs. "accusing"	Ignis	Jul-01-10 09:09 PM	#147
- Oh, "happy hunting" is NOT an accusation/personal attack?!1 n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:11 PM	#152
- ony if you are a deer and its hunting season	Moochy	Jul-01-10 09:12 PM	#154
- I guess your Profile slogan says it ALL!1 n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:15 PM	#158
- the owner class is almost as lovable as chuckles	Moochy	Jul-01-10 09:19 PM	#166
- Hmm, I didn't really mean it that way.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:50 AM	#541
- Look, let's save EVERYBODY (you, me, your groupie, the Mods, Admin, the public) a lot of time and	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:10 PM	#149
- Sure, edit the "KKK" out of your "Unrec."	Ignis	Jul-01-10 09:16 PM	#159
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 09:18 PM	#165
- I see.	donco6	Jul-01-10 09:20 PM	#170
- That would not have had the desired effect: Locked Thread	Moochy	Jul-01-10 09:22 PM	#174
- What I can't figure out . . .	donco6	Jul-01-10 09:33 PM	#186
- a hundred and twenty-two thousand miles of it to be exact	Moochy	Jul-01-10 09:46 PM	#192
- oh, so you noticed that too?	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:54 PM	#198
- That's been happening a lot lately. n/t	QC	Jul-01-10 09:59 PM	#202
- You guys need to scale it back a bit	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 11:24 PM	#263
- gee, hi -- speak of the devil and all ...	ima_sinnic	Jul-02-10 04:03 AM	#377
- Do you feel the same way about Helen Thomas?	Ignis	Jul-02-10 01:22 PM	#582
- Oh. So it's your way of calling the OP a racist. Very said. Another tactic	Catherina	Jul-01-10 09:27 PM	#180
- I couldn't get much out of his "explanation," but I think that's what it means	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 10:07 PM	#207
- self-delete	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:23 PM	#175
- You are breaking rules (again) by implying a motive that isn't there AND your lack of	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:27 PM	#179
- I don't know what you're talking about	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:46 PM	#191
- oh, and btw, what's with the "again"?	ima_sinnic	Jul-01-10 09:57 PM	#200
- You have had at least three posts deleted in this thread.	tekisui	Jul-02-10 07:20 AM	#415
- The poster has a long history of using that particular perjorative...	A HERETIC I AM	Jul-02-10 08:59 AM	#465
- Well, at least Beck is a RW stooge.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:53 AM	#544
- Yeah, we all read the post.	donco6	Jul-01-10 09:10 PM	#151
- What part of my QUOTES of the O.P. did you miss?!1 (Let's not continue, O.K.?!1) n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:14 PM	#155
- Enlighten me.	donco6	Jul-01-10 09:18 PM	#164
- It's an impossible/futile undertaking, which I don't choose to continue. Nighty night!1 n/t	UTUSN	Jul-01-10 09:21 PM	#171
- K&R. CRUSH THE DLC!	Odin2005	Jul-01-10 08:52 PM	#119
- Kick and Rec	Kalun D	Jul-01-10 08:55 PM	#122
- Écrasez l'Infâme!	QC	Jul-01-10 09:05 PM	#137
- Ah, YES. Thank you for trying to open a civil discussion with	USArmyParatrooper	Jul-01-10 09:05 PM	#138
- Well..	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 09:20 PM	#169
- So if Obama hasn't fallen off of a pedestal for me, I'm a Republican?	moriah	Jul-01-10 09:17 PM	#160
- I am not sure what the OP said that could have provoked your response.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 06:43 AM	#401
- You said it was either "progressive" Democrats, or "conservative" Democrats....	moriah	Jul-02-10 08:15 AM	#428
- Moriah speaks for me, every word	Hekate	Jul-02-10 10:38 PM	#768
- AMEN!!!	uponit7771	Jul-04-10 01:42 PM	#838
- What if there are Democrats that don't support "progressive ideals?"	ozone_man	Jul-01-10 09:18 PM	#161
- K&R....n/t	unkachuck	Jul-01-10 09:18 PM	#163
- Maybe the DU is open to those who don't think in lockstep...	BrentWil	Jul-01-10 09:20 PM	#167
- .	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 09:21 PM	#172
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 09:29 PM	#181
- Yep, 85% of Dems are "consera-Dems, blue dog DINO’s, and/or the DLC sympathizers"	USArmyParatrooper	Jul-01-10 10:26 PM	#213
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 09:30 PM	#183
- While I would disagree with most of the details, I agree with your main point.	Skinner	Jul-01-10 09:43 PM	#189
- Your last 2 sentences say it all.	Turborama	Jul-01-10 10:16 PM	#210
- Wait a minute Skinner	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 10:22 PM	#212
- My response was narrowly focused on the OP's observation that there are two broad factions on DU.	Skinner	Jul-01-10 10:32 PM	#217
- Thank you. n/t	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 10:36 PM	#221
- Thanks for your response. Would you please clarify the following?	Catherina	Jul-01-10 10:46 PM	#230
- Let me see if I can help Skinner	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 11:04 PM	#240
- Our overall problem is with corporate fascism . . .that's what the GOP has represented . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 02:13 PM	#606
- Everyone here is progressive. Everyone here is broadly supportive of progressive policies and ideals	Skinner	Jul-01-10 11:06 PM	#244
- What I'm trying to understand is what specific shared goals	Catherina	Jul-01-10 11:41 PM	#277
- This site has very few litmus tests.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 06:15 AM	#391
- ... and when elected "Democrats" don't support progressive change . .. ????	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 02:15 PM	#608
- Litmus tests are not goals, that's not what I was asking	Catherina	Jul-02-10 05:19 PM	#701
- Everyone here is progressive? Are you kidding me?	Zhade	Jul-02-10 12:06 AM	#304
- I am not kidding you.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 06:32 AM	#398
- Thank you for that clarification Skinner. For me, the most infuriating thing is being told	berni_mccoy	Jul-02-10 07:00 AM	#406
- Thank you! (nt)	redqueen	Jul-02-10 08:18 AM	#
- Thank you again. nt	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 09:29 AM	#478
- Bingo, Skinner! We have a winner!! n/t	Fire1	Jul-02-10 10:16 AM	#502
- Ahem...	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul-02-10 07:55 PM	#746
- I think you meant to reply to me, but somehow tagged Skinner's post.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 08:15 PM	#752
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-03-10 11:53 AM	#795
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-03-10 08:10 PM	#825
- One can easily proclaim themselves a progressive and or liberal here, and I've seen	OmmmSweetOmmm	Jul-03-10 01:01 PM	#799
- AMEN!!	uponit7771	Jul-04-10 01:45 PM	#839
- I beg to differ with that assessment	depakid	Jul-02-10 12:26 AM	#329
- Here is where it gets complicated	grantcart	Jul-02-10 01:43 AM	#350
- So people who criticize the Dems for going right should be banned...	Zhade	Jul-02-10 01:56 AM	#356
- Lets be very clear here	grantcart	Jul-02-10 02:10 AM	#363
- This is what I've basically been saying for a while	LatteLibertine	Jul-02-10 01:49 PM	#595
- Good question	MissDeeds	Jul-02-10 07:17 AM	#412
- I think you've just complicated this even more . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 02:48 PM	#621
- Once again you insult posters with that framing.	spoony	Jul-02-10 03:43 AM	#375
- +1	Senator	Jul-02-10 05:38 AM	#383
- My intent was not to insult anyone.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 06:07 AM	#388
- Just some advice. Stop characterizing and get rid of it.	YOY	Jul-02-10 06:23 AM	#393
- Likening DUers 'Joe McCarthy' isn't characterizing as well?	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 06:31 AM	#397
- No...when I say "get rid of it" I mean "get rid of it."	YOY	Jul-02-10 07:54 AM	#423
- Then it does seem to me it's the characterization you don't like	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 08:14 AM	#427
- No. I dislike it because I am not really a "communist". Not by the faintest definition.	YOY	Jul-02-10 08:20 AM	#437
- Honest question:	Skinner	Jul-02-10 08:28 AM	#444
- So who has been TSed from that camp?	YOY	Jul-02-10 08:35 AM	#449
- As you know, in general we prefer not to discuss why specific people get banned.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 09:19 AM	#474
- Lerkfish a disruptor? That's about the silliest thing I've ever heard.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 05:43 PM	#710
- and a grandaddy gamer. For flips sake the man was in Fallout 2!	YOY	Jul-02-10 10:40 PM	#769
- I did not know that.	Ignis	Jul-03-10 06:59 PM	#820
- He was in an easter egg called "The Unwashed Villagers:" random wilderness encounter.	YOY	Jul-03-10 09:49 PM	#828
- huh? Lerkfish was banned? what the hell? and when did this happen?	TK421	Jul-02-10 11:14 PM	#773
- WeDidIt was Tsed?	d_b	Jul-02-10 04:20 PM	#669
- Most excellent	conscious evolution	Jul-02-10 05:10 PM	#694
- It only took 2+ years of constant stalking, bullying, and personal attacks. n/	QC	Jul-02-10 05:19 PM	#702
- And those were the good days.	Ignis	Jul-03-10 07:00 PM	#821
- I notice that your question went unanswered.	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 09:43 AM	#482
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 10:04 AM	#495
- Oh the irony. nt	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 10:20 AM	#504
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 10:22 AM	#506
- Thank you.	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 01:48 PM	#593
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 12:45 PM	#569
- In the same way that some Christians feel targeted and persecuted when other religions	stranger81	Jul-02-10 01:46 PM	#591
- I think the "pile-ons" go both ways.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 06:49 AM	#404
- I'm afraid that's not true. So many folks here have noticed it that it's just not.	YOY	Jul-02-10 07:50 AM	#420
- The new bit of the rules is that a deleted post will stop people posting again in a thread	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 08:08 AM	#424
- Because you cannot "force" civility.	YOY	Jul-02-10 08:13 AM	#426
- So what's your counter-proposal? A free-for-all?	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 08:18 AM	#434
- I'm sure if the gagging weren't selective it would all work out.	YOY	Jul-02-10 08:23 AM	#442
- Pssst: Here's a secret.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 08:18 AM	#433
- and you've just decided to enforce them now?	YOY	Jul-02-10 08:23 AM	#441
- No, we've been enforcing them for years.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 08:31 AM	#445
- Pssst: The Obama rule is new.	Senator	Jul-02-10 08:26 PM	#755
- So you never read the rules before	HughMoran	Jul-03-10 01:05 PM	#800
- I think your post may be misplaced	Senator	Jul-03-10 01:57 PM	#802
- The language was there	HughMoran	Jul-03-10 02:00 PM	#803
- There was no language there	Senator	Jul-04-10 12:41 AM	#829
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 10:22 AM	#505
- You already are.	YOY	Jul-02-10 10:24 AM	#508
- ^^^ GREAT example of how ONE side gets a pass on personal attacks.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:44 AM	#534
- And from a DUer who actually KNOWS me.	YOY	Jul-02-10 11:46 AM	#536
- If you're an authoritarian, I'm a Chinese jet pilot.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:47 AM	#538
- No. It's a great example of a post that wasn't alerted.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 11:56 AM	#546
- No problem. It's distressing that no one else thought to alert on it.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 12:11 PM	#554
- I've alerted on these posts, and since then the mods deleted posts around it	Violet_Crumble	Jul-02-10 05:05 PM	#693
- Please lay off the mods. Sometimes it takes a while.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 05:25 PM	#706
- It didn't take a while for other posts in the thread to be deleted..	Violet_Crumble	Jul-02-10 05:36 PM	#708
- +1. The disparity in the speed of deletion leads to the impression of favoritism.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 10:26 PM	#767
- Hey Violet Crumble! love your new sig pic!	TK421	Jul-02-10 11:08 PM	#771
- Thanks! I brought it back out of retirement...	Violet_Crumble	Jul-03-10 06:40 AM	#787
- Come to think of it...	Ignis	Jul-02-10 08:12 PM	#750
- This post of yours itself might be a helpful thread start.	Senator	Jul-02-10 08:21 AM	#439
- One more chiming in on your framing being insulting.	noamnety	Jul-02-10 10:48 AM	#515
- great point about BOTH sides	Moochy	Jul-02-10 10:52 AM	#519
- Fair enough. What do you suggest?	Skinner	Jul-02-10 12:00 PM	#548
- something that is value neutral.	noamnety	Jul-02-10 01:43 PM	#590
- often what happens is we pick the label "we" want, and give the imagined others the opposite of that	nashville_brook	Jul-02-10 06:43 PM	#720
- Beautifully said.	DirkGently	Jul-02-10 06:49 PM	#722
- Nicely stated.	Ignis	Jul-03-10 07:02 PM	#822
- This reply should be its own OP.	stranger81	Jul-02-10 01:58 PM	#599
- Try this thought experiment:	Ignis	Jul-02-10 11:38 AM	#532
- Here on DU I've heard both used as a perjorative.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 12:03 PM	#549
- OK. You win.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 12:14 PM	#558
- and you've got a pretty sweet hat.	YOY	Jul-02-10 12:29 PM	#563
- OT: I always take out-of-town visitors to a local SF hat store.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 12:33 PM	#566
- That one's kind of bothered me for awhile	Posteritatis	Jul-02-10 11:33 PM	#777
- Very good points	Ignis	Jul-03-10 03:20 PM	#807
- I've been thinking more and more that what is going on	suffragette	Jul-02-10 02:28 PM	#612
- ... it is insulting, Skinner . . . because it pretty much frames the left here as	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:03 PM	#626
- Idealists vs pragmatists. or Truth-seekers vs lie-accepters?	chimpymustgo	Jul-02-10 07:35 PM	#735
- +1 -- What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?	nashville_brook	Jul-02-10 11:02 AM	#526
- Indeed. It's very arrogant and self-serving.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 08:58 PM	#760
- No, they most certainly aren't -- you must be reading another board	LostinVA	Jul-02-10 06:20 AM	#392
- Since I am reading this board...	Skinner	Jul-02-10 06:35 AM	#400
- Um...no.	YOY	Jul-02-10 06:28 AM	#395
- According to some	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 07:15 AM	#410
- I want an end to endless imprisonment with zero judicial recourse	MannyGoldstein	Jul-02-10 07:15 AM	#411
- +a gazillion with thanks. nt	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 09:26 AM	#477
- Constructive criticism	OnyxCollie	Jul-02-10 10:08 AM	#498
- First of all, thanks for the Nazi reference. I felt like something was missing from this discussion.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 10:23 AM	#507
- Uh... you really don't see the contradiction in these two statements?	Zhade	Jul-02-10 06:42 PM	#718
- Namecalling isn't substantive criticism.	geek tragedy	Jul-02-10 07:13 PM	#729
- Sure, sure, I get that much, thanks.	Zhade	Jul-03-10 08:21 PM	#826
- One recent example I do not understand is the Jon Stewart thread.	Jamastiene	Jul-03-10 06:18 PM	#819
- I don't understand that statement given that progressives	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 02:01 PM	#602
- being called "firebagger" was especially good	spiritual_gunfighter	Jul-02-10 03:10 PM	#629
- Liberals/progressives here are "idealistic" -- and DLC here are "pragmatic" . . .???	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 02:02 PM	#603
- See, the thing is, it's about 6 years since someone said they were 'DLC' on DU	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 02:14 PM	#607
- That dog don't hunt	Individualist	Jul-02-10 02:35 PM	#614
- "Idealists said it should be single payer" - No, those of us who read the Party Platform said that.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 02:38 PM	#616
- Agree -- and maybe we need to have politicians sign "PLEDGES" in future???	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:16 PM	#632
- At this point, I'd be happy with parliamentary block-building.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 09:44 PM	#763
- According to the two parties it is -- !!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 10:21 PM	#765
- "many private health insurance options and a public plan" is not 'single payer'	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 03:48 PM	#643
- I'm not willing to parse the issue that finely.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 04:53 PM	#687
- 76%+ of the country supported single payer - MEDICARE FOR ALL --	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:50 PM	#744
- Not really ... and Hillary Clinton is part of DLC leadership . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:10 PM	#628
- People were still here defending the DLC in the run up to 2006.	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 03:55 PM	#650
- They . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 10:23 PM	#766
- Um, noooooo. There's one running around in active threads RIGHT NOW.	Zhade	Jul-03-10 08:25 PM	#827
- Actually , we do NOT all want to move the country in the same direction. Many of us do NOT support	saracat	Jul-02-10 02:28 PM	#611
- +1000% . . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:17 PM	#633
- ^ True ^ n/t	Mimosa	Jul-03-10 06:44 AM	#789
- +10000!	OmmmSweetOmmm	Jul-04-10 12:18 PM	#834
- I think those are goals shared by almost everybody here	Hippo_Tron	Jul-02-10 11:14 PM	#772
- "The moderators could have easily locked this thread -- and probably should have "	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 11:10 PM	#249
- Why wont it "end well"?	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 08:56 AM	#463
- Read down	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 11:25 AM	#531
- You made the right choice IMHO	lumberjack_jeff	Jul-02-10 12:54 AM	#340
- You might be right	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 06:59 AM	#405
- Agree--	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:18 PM	#634
- then do a "kill file" forum and be done with it...	NuttyFluffers	Jul-02-10 03:12 AM	#372
- I support this with one condition which you probably take as a given: to exclude obscenity	patrice	Jul-02-10 05:33 PM	#707
- Glad to see you saw it as divisive, unfair, and worthy of a lock.	redqueen	Jul-02-10 08:15 AM	#430
- Mixed messages are difficult to process.	Spheric	Jul-02-10 01:21 PM	#581
- The "new" vision isn't that complicated. And yes, we are committed to it.	Skinner	Jul-02-10 01:56 PM	#598
- Thank you for attempting to clarify.	Spheric	Jul-02-10 03:13 PM	#631
- You left out the reason he decided to keep it open	Turborama	Jul-02-10 11:19 PM	#774
- Skinner -- you can't go wrong supporting free speech . . . it's the reverse that	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:21 PM	#635
- Free speech applied to this discussion is really a red herring.	BzaDem	Jul-02-10 04:35 PM	#676
- Of course not. So why are so many conservative-leaning Dems allowed to push their policies here?	Zhade	Jul-02-10 06:51 PM	#723
- Exactly . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:47 PM	#742
- Because it seems now that being a "pragmatic" Democrat rules first and foremost	OmmmSweetOmmm	Jul-04-10 12:25 PM	#835
- "We fully intend to make the word "conservative" absolutely radioactive" . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:37 PM	#736
- Democrats "being bought by corporate" isn't a new thing	Turborama	Jul-01-10 10:40 PM	#228
- The OP made this statement	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 10:48 PM	#233
- You interpreted what the OP said this way	Turborama	Jul-01-10 11:03 PM	#238
- What does this mean exactly	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 11:13 PM	#252
- I'll ask again, what's that got to do with DU's rules?	Turborama	Jul-01-10 11:56 PM	#293
- has a lot to do with DU rules	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 12:04 AM	#301
- Instead of giving a link, please quote the actual rules you are referring to.	Turborama	Jul-02-10 12:09 AM	#307
- Nope,	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 12:15 AM	#319
- I am, but are you capable of reading and understanding the rules?	Turborama	Jul-02-10 12:48 AM	#337
- We are paying guests . . .btw . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:25 PM	#636
- You are NOT a paying guest	Hutzpa	Jul-02-10 03:56 PM	#651
- Most members are "paying guests" ....	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:30 PM	#734
- Skinner, do you not recognize the part that those who are here to "message" play?	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 10:31 PM	#216
- I think you need to consider the possibility...	Skinner	Jul-01-10 10:44 PM	#229
- I respect your thoughts,	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:07 PM	#247
- Fair enough. I would add that the "very small minority" of which you speak...	Skinner	Jul-01-10 11:10 PM	#248
- lol	SwampG8r	Jul-02-10 12:31 AM	#331
- I accept that. Maybe it has to do with having right wing conservative parents. I am surprised when	Jennicut	Jul-01-10 10:37 PM	#222
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-01-10 11:16 PM	#254
- +1. The gist of this thread seems to be that the president hasn't solved	Tarheel_Dem	Jul-01-10 11:47 PM	#283
- No- that is just your very skewed interpretation of the OP	Tailormyst	Jul-02-10 11:55 AM	#545
- IMO, the OP is arguing for free speech rather than denial of reality here . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:29 PM	#637
- Have your "speech rights" been abridged on a privately held message board?	Tarheel_Dem	Jul-02-10 04:05 PM	#657
- You've called for LOCKING THIS THREAD . . .!!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:22 PM	#703
- Us? US? If some disagree, they are trolls and it is us v anyone who disagrees?	havocmom	Jul-01-10 11:55 PM	#292
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 12:46 AM	#334
- Yes, I did. And I read all the misrepresentations of what the OP said	havocmom	Jul-02-10 01:05 AM	#345
- But you CAN change that fact. It's YOUR website. Allow me to quote your About section:	Zhade	Jul-01-10 11:58 PM	#295
- How many OPs have you seen lately that are "conservative, anti-union, anti-choice, pro-corporate"	Turborama	Jul-02-10 03:16 AM	#373
- quite a few, actually.	spoony	Jul-02-10 03:38 AM	#374
- Have you alerted?	Turborama	Jul-02-10 04:11 AM	#378
- yes	spoony	Jul-02-10 04:30 AM	#381
- I do. They remain.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 07:42 PM	#738
- What's the date on that? A WOW declaration of what DU stands for -- !!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:36 PM	#639
- EVERYONE here should read this ... interesting record of what DU stands for!!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:41 PM	#709
- Thanks for responding.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 08:57 AM	#464
- Could you please address my question about the About section?	Zhade	Jul-02-10 08:51 PM	#758
- Your OP exhibits the core problem here at DU.	Kind of Blue	Jul-01-10 09:49 PM	#195
- This post should be enough to get the poster BANNED for calling other democrats republicans because	ncteechur	Jul-01-10 09:52 PM	#196
- It was just said above by admin that it's every (wo)man for himself	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 09:58 PM	#201
- "they may not be progressive enough. "	ProSense	Jul-01-10 10:01 PM	#203
- 65 recs and ban the poster.	donco6	Jul-01-10 10:05 PM	#206
- What does that even mean?	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 10:26 PM	#214
- I think it means that if you can	POAS	Jul-01-10 10:35 PM	#218
- That's two threads now that you've observed the number of recs.	Tarheel_Dem	Jul-02-10 12:17 AM	#321
- In their world it does. It makes them feel important. Sad, really.	Political Tiger	Jul-02-10 01:00 AM	#342
- No, not really.	donco6	Jul-02-10 08:19 AM	#435
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 10:28 AM	#510
- Good grief. The conspiracies never stop coming from you guys.	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 01:00 PM	#573
- It does when someone is calling for someone else's head.	donco6	Jul-02-10 08:15 AM	#429
- Damn right!	Political Tiger	Jul-01-10 11:05 PM	#242
- You summed it up perfectly. n/t	firedupdem	Jul-02-10 12:07 AM	#305
- Not all Democrats are progressives and not all progressives are Democrats	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 02:03 AM	#359
- Allegedly, no connection between DU and Democratic Party ....???	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:44 PM	#642
- Indeed. Foolish me for believing it. n/t	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 04:29 PM	#674
- Except DU raises money for the Democratic Party .. . . . eh . . ????	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:15 PM	#698
- THANK YOU.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 07:47 PM	#741
- I had a post deleted a couple of days ago because gasp! I	OmmmSweetOmmm	Jul-04-10 12:32 PM	#836
- I couldn't agree more.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 11:28 PM	#265
- You fail at reading comprehension	Tailormyst	Jul-02-10 11:56 AM	#547
- Pitchforks $5! Torches $10 for 3!	Ignis	Jul-03-10 07:16 PM	#823
- So if I'm not with you, I'm against you?	piedmont	Jul-01-10 09:53 PM	#197
- DU stopped being progressive a long time ago	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 10:18 PM	#211
- " in favor of spam threads straight off of Rahm's printer"	ProSense	Jul-01-10 10:28 PM	#215
- You misunderstand me	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 10:35 PM	#219
- "I'm talking about just spamming the same news feed all day. "	ProSense	Jul-01-10 10:50 PM	#235
- I guess you still don't understand	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 10:57 PM	#236
- Don't agree	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:04 PM	#241
- Look at your own threads from GDP	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 11:18 PM	#257
- I see the problem	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:26 PM	#264
- ...and there you have it.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-01-10 11:31 PM	#269
- Vital posts with 2 replies	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 11:41 PM	#278
- Both of you are on the same path	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 11:48 PM	#285
- You seem hung up on	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:49 PM	#287
- And others get posted 40 times	Yuugal	Jul-02-10 12:01 AM	#298
- Psssst.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 12:22 AM	#324
- Try paying attention before getting cute	Yuugal	Jul-02-10 12:29 AM	#330
- Actually, I can get cute while paying attention.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 12:48 AM	#335
- This is a strawman. Why is it	ProSense	Jul-02-10 12:48 AM	#336
- quite often copycat threads	conscious evolution	Jul-02-10 05:50 PM	#712
- You make a good point.	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:30 PM	#267
- There is absolutely no dynamic	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:40 PM	#276
- By how many different people?	Go2Peace	Jul-02-10 12:00 AM	#296
- Prosense you've posted 3 topics on the same thing in 2 days	Mimosa	Jul-03-10 06:42 AM	#788
- I don't think anyone is opposed to positive articles	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:17 PM	#255
- Bless you	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 11:21 PM	#261
- "as long as they are not heavily spun" What does that mean?	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:30 PM	#268
- Well, sure it can be spin too, so that justifies more spin?	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:39 PM	#275
- The problem is that	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:42 PM	#280
- no, but I also do not participate in it	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:51 PM	#288
- Ah, but then -- neither are you. Yet you act as such.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 12:21 AM	#322
- I do no such thing	ProSense	Jul-02-10 12:23 AM	#325
- "as long as they are not heavily spun"	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 11:48 PM	#286
- No it's not straightfoward.	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:52 PM	#289
- "Opinions vary as to what is or isn't spin."	Go2Peace	Jul-02-10 12:06 AM	#303
- Actually, the majority are progressive, but a minority is very forceful and prolific	Go2Peace	Jul-01-10 10:39 PM	#227
- I agree	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 10:49 PM	#234
- If you agree, that it's a minority, why is everyone complaining so frequently?	ProSense	Jul-02-10 08:31 AM	#446
- When free speech is curtailed here because of a squeaky minority wheel . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:51 PM	#646
- K&R	Bryn	Jul-01-10 10:13 PM	#209
- "As the Republican Party dies off"	Frank Booth	Jul-01-10 10:36 PM	#220
- Ohhhhhh, if only.	KonaKane	Jul-01-10 11:04 PM	#239
- 'Bout time somebody pointed out that the entire post was built on a false assumption	HughMoran	Jul-01-10 11:35 PM	#273
- The GOP is now a minority running our House and Senate . . .!!!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:58 PM	#652
- Proud to recommend	nadinbrzezinski	Jul-01-10 10:38 PM	#224
- Big D Democratic principles ...	GeorgeGist	Jul-01-10 10:38 PM	#225
- The problem for liberals is the same	quaker bill	Jul-01-10 10:39 PM	#226
- 17 Years of compromise and "victory"... and here we are	MannyGoldstein	Jul-01-10 10:46 PM	#231
- I have a conservative in law who says liberals cannot hold and manage power.	KonaKane	Jul-01-10 11:06 PM	#243
- Liberals owned the US 1933-1969. 36 years!	MannyGoldstein	Jul-02-10 12:03 AM	#300
- "Nixon was far, far to the left of Obama."	ProSense	Jul-02-10 12:09 AM	#306
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 12:14 AM	#316
- And then came the large computers used by MSM ... and the voting computers ...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 03:59 PM	#653
- I think he was referring to recent liberal trends, as in AC (After Clinton)	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 06:47 PM	#721
- Compromise didn't destroy the middle class	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:06 PM	#245
- Fascinating that you don't see the connection between those two sentences.	spoony	Jul-01-10 11:11 PM	#251
- "The compromises are almost always in favour of the corporations."	ProSense	Jul-01-10 11:19 PM	#259
- Right . . . . corporate government ... corporate government officials . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:03 PM	#655
- You're actually correct.	MannyGoldstein	Jul-02-10 12:10 AM	#308
- With Democrats who claim to be the party of the people capitulating at every turn.	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 02:15 AM	#365
- Another example was Kerry announcing the other day Dems were ready to compromise more...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:04 PM	#656
- Where do you get 17?	quaker bill	Jul-02-10 06:12 AM	#390
- Agree . . . the compromise began with our schizophrenic Constitution . . .!!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:02 PM	#654
- + 1	Scurrilous	Jul-01-10 10:47 PM	#232
- Where has that gotten us?	Hutzpa	Jul-01-10 11:42 PM	#279
- It has gotten us	quaker bill	Jul-02-10 06:35 AM	#399
- Could you explain which compromises you're talking about here . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:09 PM	#659
- It was the lack of compromise	quaker bill	Jul-02-10 06:00 PM	#715
- Obviously, the 50 State/Howard Dean plan is what we need . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:25 PM	#733
- You know, just once I'd like to see them compromise with US.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 12:26 AM	#
- I do negotiation for a living	quaker bill	Jul-02-10 06:28 AM	#394
- And to win elections we need to rid ourselves of this computer based system ....	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:15 PM	#664
- I'm not allying myself with anyone who excuses torture, indefinite detention without trial...	Zhade	Jul-02-10 08:02 PM	#748
- +1000%	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:11 PM	#660
- A common sense post! THANK YOU! n/t	Political Tiger	Jul-02-10 01:02 AM	#343
- "I have seen defeat and it is not pretty."	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 07:31 AM	#416
- This may not help DU but	txlibdem	Jul-01-10 11:34 PM	#272
- Shhhh. You will impede our "progress" backwards.	Jakes Progress	Jul-02-10 08:41 AM	#453
- What you are saying resonates totally with me.	truedelphi	Jul-02-10 01:59 PM	#600
- Were you here for the 2004 primaries?	Warren DeMontague	Jul-01-10 11:48 PM	#284
- Speaking of paying attention	Yuugal	Jul-01-10 11:57 PM	#294
- Drawing a line in the sand as to what constitutes a "real progressive" has nothing to do with it.	Warren DeMontague	Jul-02-10 12:01 AM	#297
- Guess I hit a nerve	Yuugal	Jul-02-10 12:12 AM	#311
- Oh, yeah, you got my number. Either that, or you should work on your communications skills.	Warren DeMontague	Jul-02-10 02:48 AM	#369
- The "you can't be for this and be a progressive" posters	HughMoran	Jul-02-10 08:17 AM	#432
- That's pretty much the raison d'etre of the entire OP.	Warren DeMontague	Jul-02-10 12:52 PM	#570
- Sure, but that also doesn't mean it's acceptable.	Zhade	Jul-02-10 08:55 PM	#759
- Define "acceptable". I'm not 100% thrilled with everything Obama has or hasn't done.	Warren DeMontague	Jul-02-10 11:49 PM	#779
- Yes . . . seems pretty clear to me!!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:19 PM	#668
- I wasn't here but I heard it was a bloodbath.	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 12:10 AM	#309
- Yeah, it was a mess.	Warren DeMontague	Jul-02-10 02:50 AM	#370
- Dead on.	faceit	Jul-02-10 12:05 AM	#302
- You know what I think?	Tsiyu	Jul-02-10 12:13 AM	#312
- Stop making sense.	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 12:15 AM	#317
- This is one of those times when I really, really, really	Tsiyu	Jul-02-10 10:44 AM	#513
- Thanks, comrade.	KonaKane	Jul-02-10 03:53 PM	#648
- If you got from my post that I want Skinner to "make one side go away", then I did a bad	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 08:31 AM	#447
- He's nominated at least 67 US attorneys	muriel_volestrangler	Jul-02-10 09:10 AM	#470
- Thank you. I did not have that information and apparently not	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 09:15 AM	#473
- This is true . . . and when Democrats as minority held up even a few . . . GOP exploded ...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:24 PM	#671
- I was responding to all on this thread who are really upset	Tsiyu	Jul-02-10 10:34 AM	#511
- Thanks for the thoughtful post. I truly want Pres Obama to succeed.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 06:43 PM	#719
- How about 'he has a really hard job, and some things just take time'.	Dawgs	Jul-02-10 01:25 PM	#584
- Think you did quite well . . . and this post even clearer . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:21 PM	#670
- You're too hard on yourself	spoony	Jul-03-10 01:13 AM	#782
- Thank you. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-03-10 10:04 AM	#792
- wish I could recommend your post because I would	SemperEadem	Jul-02-10 09:45 AM	#483
- Thank you	Tsiyu	Jul-02-10 10:39 AM	#512
- K&R	OmmmSweetOmmm	Jul-02-10 12:26 AM	#328
- Here is the core problem	grahamhgreen	Jul-02-10 12:49 AM	#338
- Here is another core problem.	pnwmom	Jul-02-10 01:12 AM	#346
- But that's what I mean, instead of talking about our real solutions,	grahamhgreen	Jul-02-10 02:54 PM	#624
- Absolutely . . restore New Deal rules/restrictions on corporate America --	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:28 PM	#672
- K&R	Enthusiast	Jul-02-10 01:38 AM	#348
- There are some at DU who promote Blue Dogs every day as the second coming.	onehandle	Jul-02-10 01:44 AM	#351
- REALLY! I have been here since 2004 and have NEVER seen	johnaries	Jul-02-10 01:53 AM	#355
- You must have missed ....	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:30 PM	#675
- If only you were right about the die-off of the GOP.	leveymg	Jul-02-10 01:49 AM	#353
- The only way the GOP/right wing can rise or stay in power ...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:38 PM	#677
- "I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." Jay Gould, banker, tycoon	leveymg	Jul-03-10 06:19 AM	#786
- Yep ... and as FDR put it more or less ... "you can't sell democracy to hungry people" ....	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 02:05 PM	#804
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 02:14 AM	#364
- You dare speak of irony after that subject line? nt	spoony	Jul-02-10 02:33 AM	#367
- A lot of my argument with the people that call themselves pragmatists was obvious	JoeyT	Jul-02-10 04:56 AM	#382
- Well said . . . agree --	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:40 PM	#678
- I'm going where and doing what I need to do to win this upcoming election.....	FrenchieCat	Jul-02-10 05:48 AM	#385
- +1	MineralMan	Jul-02-10 08:19 AM	#436
- I would suggest that would mean	Jakes Progress	Jul-02-10 08:45 AM	#457
- Where in that response did you see antagonizing	Kind of Blue	Jul-02-10 09:36 AM	#480
- Wasn't talking to you.	Jakes Progress	Jul-02-10 11:00 PM	#770
- Gotcha, kicking republican ass does not	Kind of Blue	Jul-03-10 06:11 AM	#785
- No. You still don't get it.	Jakes Progress	Jul-03-10 09:33 AM	#790
- Sure do get it. In an over 200-response thread	Kind of Blue	Jul-03-10 11:27 AM	#794
- Are you new?	Jakes Progress	Jul-03-10 12:07 PM	#796
- I haven't taken umbrage with anything you've	Kind of Blue	Jul-03-10 12:59 PM	#797
- Glad you are amused	Jakes Progress	Jul-03-10 03:50 PM	#812
- Absolutely!	Bluzmann57	Jul-02-10 08:54 AM	#462
- IMHO, there are not disctinct factions -- there is diversity of viewpoints and its not a problem	aikoaiko	Jul-02-10 05:54 AM	#386
- K & R	Dinger	Jul-02-10 06:30 AM	#396
- Very well said	mochajava666	Jul-02-10 06:45 AM	#402
- That's a bit disingenuous	Recursion	Jul-02-10 08:16 AM	#431
- Exactly, it's the	ProSense	Jul-02-10 08:36 AM	#450
- This is the bottom line.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 09:23 PM	#762
- Probably the best mud sling fest thread in the history of DU EVER! n	Javaman	Jul-02-10 08:21 AM	#440
- Ha cha cha cha!	lonestarnot	Jul-02-10 08:26 AM	#443
- Self-serving bullshit post.	geek tragedy	Jul-02-10 08:47 AM	#458
- A lot of people are only happy if they can say, "I'm more liberal than you."	FSogol	Jul-02-10 09:53 AM	#490
- I don't completely agree but I'm Rec'cing it anyway	slackmaster	Jul-02-10 09:13 AM	#472
- I also dont completely agree. I am not good at stating my case clearly. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 09:20 AM	#476
- Sticks and stones may break my bones.... Lets ignore the fake Dems, and keep building a strong party	earcandle	Jul-02-10 09:19 AM	#475
- the time probably has come for there to be a seperate website	SemperEadem	Jul-02-10 09:32 AM	#479
- Where do you get off telling someone to leave? n/t	Raineyb	Jul-02-10 09:51 AM	#489
- If that's what you think . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:45 PM	#679
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 09:49 AM	#486
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 09:50 AM	#488
- Is it possible that instead of focusing on labeling	DirkGently	Jul-02-10 10:12 AM	#501
- the labels "pragmatic" and "idealistic" were bestowed by skinner -- so, really, the pragmatists win	nashville_brook	Jul-02-10 10:54 AM	#522
- Well, here's what bothers me	DirkGently	Jul-02-10 11:44 AM	#533
- i woud like to see this as an OP for larger discussion b/c i think you're mediating this very well	nashville_brook	Jul-02-10 11:53 AM	#543
- Thanks. Could be it's gotten too ugly already.	DirkGently	Jul-02-10 12:31 PM	#564
- I'm handing you this shiny internet	Starry Messenger	Jul-02-10 03:04 PM	#627
- Agree with you . . . !	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:48 PM	#680
- The majority of the voting population	smoogatz	Jul-02-10 10:19 AM	#503
- I stopped reading on the 4th sentence...if you really believe the Republican Party is dying off...	newtothegame	Jul-02-10 10:26 AM	#509
- Skinner's problem is not our problem,	branders seine	Jul-02-10 11:02 AM	#525
- Agree with your summation . . . and it would quite well suit the Repugs to kill DU website ...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:51 PM	#683
- In other words, don't use their labels, use mine	wtmusic	Jul-02-10 11:13 AM	#528
- Another 500+ posts on this?	Renew Deal	Jul-02-10 11:16 AM	#530
- No -- it shows the need for much more discussion on this . ..	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:52 PM	#684
- so, everyone who supports Obama is now a DINO/DLC/RepukeAgent, right???	Aramchek	Jul-02-10 11:44 AM	#535
- apparently.	dionysus	Jul-02-10 11:48 AM	#540
- it would seem so	SunsetDreams	Jul-02-10 12:16 PM	#559
- That's what I read. And, apparently many agree.	Dawgs	Jul-02-10 01:28 PM	#585
- That's the gist of it. And they'd like all Obama supporters to have to answer a list of questions.	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 02:44 PM	#617
- How about an example of the issue . . . ????	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:53 PM	#686
- I would agree with the dynamic described in OP, no matter how you label the	patrice	Jul-02-10 11:47 AM	#539
- And you don't question HOW and WHY the minority is controlling the Congress ...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:55 PM	#688
- Those question, the right ones, are part of the "LOT more work" needed to be effective	patrice	Jul-02-10 05:24 PM	#704
- The Minority controlling the Majority is a HUGE question . . ..	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 07:20 PM	#731
- My main issue with this OP:	quiet.american	Jul-02-10 11:51 AM	#542
- excellent post!	SunsetDreams	Jul-02-10 12:07 PM	#552
- Outstanding post quiet.american	great white snark	Jul-02-10 12:07 PM	#553
- absolutely, this should be an OP	SunsetDreams	Jul-02-10 12:12 PM	#555
- +1. The ignorance in the OP can be found throughout DU, and that's very disappointing.	Dawgs	Jul-02-10 01:30 PM	#
- The reason for the label is because the same proponents	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 02:06 PM	#605
- thank you for keeping it real	fascisthunter	Jul-02-10 03:01 PM	#625
- ... and defending pro-corporate decision making by Democrats . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 04:57 PM	#689
- +10000	sinkingfeeling	Jul-02-10 02:47 PM	#620
- Well Skinner, I Do Have to Say I Appreciate That You Didn't Lock This Thread	Dinger	Jul-02-10 04:16 PM	#665
- +1000% . . . proves that more free speech is the answer ... airing issues... not burying them...	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:00 PM	#690
- ***OP ADDRESSED FULLY IN THIS POST*** Great go	uponit7771	Jul-04-10 01:54 PM	#840
- Best Circular Firing Squad Thread Ever!!	NeedleCast	Jul-02-10 12:04 PM	#550
- Two hundred posters disagree with you. nt	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 01:09 PM	#576
- Actually, I rec'd it for the discussion in the thread	Lone_Star_Dem	Jul-02-10 01:30 PM	#586
- Right. And calling this a circular firing squad is only meant to shut down	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 01:49 PM	#594
- Yes	Lone_Star_Dem	Jul-02-10 01:55 PM	#597
- Gotcha. Thanks.	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 02:03 PM	#604
- 200 out of 10,000+ is not much.	Dawgs	Jul-02-10 01:32 PM	#587
- That doesn't even make sense.	EFerrari	Jul-02-10 01:50 PM	#596
- 10,000: are they all active accounts...	fascisthunter	Jul-02-10 07:40 PM	#737
- I think the core problem is accusing people who don't agree with your stance	TZ	Jul-02-10 12:12 PM	#556
- Yep. No purity test for liberals / Dems. Or shouldn't be.	DirkGently	Jul-02-10 12:32 PM	#565
- So you're going to own the DU Yardstick to judge who is progressive enough to post here	LynneSin	Jul-02-10 12:13 PM	#557
- Lynne	SunsetDreams	Jul-02-10 12:18 PM	#560
- I hope so	LynneSin	Jul-02-10 12:21 PM	#561
- yes it is	SunsetDreams	Jul-02-10 12:33 PM	#567
- "The fact that this thread is on the DU Homepage is an embarassment."	Number23	Jul-02-10 08:33 PM	#756
- Don't forget the list of questions we all have to answer for him.	DevonRex	Jul-02-10 02:45 PM	#619
- rhett o rick this is a clear problem that you have thoughtfully	midnight	Jul-02-10 12:22 PM	#562
- Agree completely. n/t	Nothing Without Hope	Jul-02-10 12:59 PM	#572
- k&r for the truth. n/t	Laelth	Jul-02-10 01:03 PM	#574
- Frankly, I haven't noticed any problems. nt	Deep13	Jul-02-10 01:07 PM	#575
- The core problem are posts like yours...	MellowDem	Jul-02-10 01:11 PM	#578
- Many conservatives are fleeing to the Democratic Party?	OmahaBlueDog	Jul-02-10 01:16 PM	#579
- The whole OP was the mantra of "real" Democrats vs. fake Dems	USArmyParatrooper	Jul-02-10 05:19 PM	#700
- IBTL	DainBramaged	Jul-02-10 01:35 PM	#588
- It's a sad day on DU when so many support a Democratic 'litmus test', and cons fleeing to dem party.	Dawgs	Jul-02-10 01:36 PM	#589
- Pretty good deal corporations have going, isn't it - one whole party...	polichick	Jul-02-10 02:01 PM	#601
- Let's just be small-d Democracy - forget the 'Party'	radhika	Jul-02-10 02:25 PM	#610
- With 217 Recs, I'd say more than a few DUers agree with your framing of the debate.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 02:50 PM	#622
- The rec system as become too manipulated to be	Bobbie Jo	Jul-02-10 04:14 PM	#663
- Hey, I'm just a peon--er, user.	Ignis	Jul-02-10 05:04 PM	#692
- Agree . . . and yes it does look like a lot of	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:14 PM	#697
- It certainly does.	Bobbie Jo	Jul-03-10 02:18 PM	#806
- Yes -- and ....	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 05:15 PM	#818
- Thanks for the comments. My framing need work as my frustration often shows thru.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 04:53 PM	#685
- You Get a Rec from me	fascisthunter	Jul-02-10 02:52 PM	#623
- You got an early rec from me too. n/t	Catherina	Jul-02-10 03:12 PM	#630
- One little addition to your well taken point.. It should be about the person,not the party...	judesedit	Jul-02-10 03:51 PM	#645
- Agree. Well written. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 04:50 PM	#682
- Sadly true -- too true ... !!	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:12 PM	#696
- One of the issues you discuss is policy discussions... but you use attack language.	Ozymanithrax	Jul-02-10 04:17 PM	#666
- I absolutely agree. My frustration and poor ability to articulate get the best of me.	rhett o rick	Jul-02-10 04:49 PM	#681
- We became so used to treating Republicans with disdain...	Ozymanithrax	Jul-02-10 08:36 PM	#757
- Big Tent, no more?	bobburgster	Jul-02-10 04:18 PM	#667
- Do you really want . . .	defendandprotect	Jul-02-10 05:10 PM	#695
- The DLC isn't much different then the old conservative democrats.	bobburgster	Jul-03-10 03:30 PM	#808
- Are you suggesting those "old conservative Democrats" weren't harmful to the nation?	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 03:48 PM	#810
- No, but the democratic party didn't crumble because of them.	bobburgster	Jul-04-10 02:36 AM	#830
- What does the big tent need with DLCers who are pulling up the tent pegs	Individualist	Jul-02-10 08:20 PM	#753
- I don't agree with you on that.	bobburgster	Jul-03-10 03:32 PM	#809
- So you support the DLC-corporate wing?	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 03:51 PM	#813
- Reread my post.....	bobburgster	Jul-04-10 02:39 AM	#831
- The purpose is obviously to destroy any Democratic Party activism re liberal issues ...	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 03:50 PM	#811
- Conservatives are not headed "our" way, they are becoming teabaggers!	DailyGrind51	Jul-02-10 05:25 PM	#705
- Do the Parties really want the masses involved?	howaboutme	Jul-03-10 10:36 AM	#793
- perfect. it is a sad fact that some don't want to follow Democratic principles and instead want to	Divine Discontent	Jul-02-10 05:58 PM	#714
- +1000	pleah	Jul-02-10 07:15 PM	#730
- The party is bigger than one individual	MissDeeds	Jul-02-10 07:44 PM	#740
- K & R ! ! ! ! !	pleah	Jul-02-10 06:23 PM	#716
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-02-10 06:54 PM	#724
- Just a thought, but when a political Party	howaboutme	Jul-02-10 08:26 PM	#754
- +1000% . . . thanks for clarity!	defendandprotect	Jul-03-10 03:53 PM	#814
- there are those that will mock this thread, and those discussing how we're disgusted with being	Divine Discontent	Jul-02-10 10:06 PM	#764
- Any thread with 0.75 kilocomments on something like this that's unlocked is a win for all involved	Posteritatis	Jul-02-10 11:36 PM	#778
- good point. three cheers for whatever we wanna call it!	Divine Discontent	Jul-03-10 01:05 AM	#781
- This thread certainly touched a nerve, didn't it? n/t	QC	Jul-03-10 06:04 AM	#784
- I agree. nm	rhett o rick	Jul-03-10 10:02 AM	#791
- Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-03-10 02:06 PM	#805
- Well, I don't think the gap is that huge	chillspike	Jul-03-10 04:09 PM	#816
- Replying	Rage for Order	Jul-04-10 12:08 PM	#833

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