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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:14 AM
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33. Bottom line - charters are taking resources that should/would go to traditional public schools
which ensures failure.

As a 3 decade veteran of urban Ed I also refuse to accept the argument of 'but the schools were failing' as a justification for funding charters. Another bottom line - urban schools have NEVER been adequately funded. Not during my tenure. And if you consistently underfund schools as we have done then of course they will fail. If we also continue to fail to address poverty, crime, the absence of parents (both physically and emotionally) then none of our urban schools, not even the charters, will have longterm success.That success requires resources we have yet to see and a commitment and energy level that is not yet evident.
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  -DOE Study: On average, charter schools do no better than public schools madfloridian  Jun-30-10 12:47 PM   #0 
  - Arne would totally school you on a basketball court  Oregone   Jun-30-10 12:48 PM   #1 
  - heh heh  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 01:18 PM   #2 
  - NO Argument From Me:)  Dinger   Jun-30-10 10:37 PM   #26 
  - That he would.  LWolf   Jun-30-10 02:55 PM   #8 
  - Since Arne doesn't play fair I wouldn't either. His testicles would be up in his nose.  LiberalFighter   Jul-01-10 09:44 PM   #41 
  - Ahh but it feels Truthy  booley   Jun-30-10 01:52 PM   #3 
  - lol your picture.  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 03:42 PM   #9 
  - But think of how much lower property taxes would be if we eliminated education funding all together.  Gormy Cuss   Jun-30-10 02:08 PM   #4 
  - and use the savings to build more prisons  booley   Jun-30-10 03:53 PM   #10 
  - I think that is their come on for conservatives.  Jakes Progress   Jun-30-10 07:29 PM   #15 
  - k&R to cancel out an unrec.  nyc 4 Biden   Jun-30-10 02:22 PM   #5 
  - There really is....  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 07:33 PM   #16 
     - Yes there is.  Dappleganger   Jun-30-10 08:01 PM   #18 
        - I was surprised to learn of it.  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 08:42 PM   #21 
  - Remember *immoderate's rule"...  immoderate   Jun-30-10 02:29 PM   #6 
  - This despite the fact they cherry-pick the best students, while....  Scuba   Jun-30-10 02:51 PM   #7 
  - K&R for more of that "change".  Greyhound   Jun-30-10 05:04 PM   #11 
  - kr  Hannah Bell   Jun-30-10 05:27 PM   #12 
  - recommend  TexasObserver   Jun-30-10 05:43 PM   #13 
  - K&R Stanford U. Meta-analysis concluded same findings  amborin   Jun-30-10 06:23 PM   #14 
  - That's great, but...  LuckyTheDog   Jun-30-10 07:57 PM   #17 
  - They have been defunding the public schools everywhere...  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 08:41 PM   #20 
     - If you were in my shoes, and had an 8-year-old...  LuckyTheDog   Jun-30-10 09:45 PM   #23 
        - You put a whole big bunch of words in my mouth that I did not say.  madfloridian   Jun-30-10 10:21 PM   #25 
        - Parents who can move to the suburbs for many reasons other than the schools  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-01-10 06:43 AM   #30 
           - You misunderstand  LuckyTheDog   Jul-01-10 08:40 AM   #31 
              - Bottom line - charters are taking resources that should/would go to traditional public schools  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-01-10 10:14 AM   #33 
                 - If only funding was the only problem  LuckyTheDog   Jul-01-10 10:59 AM   #36 
  - k & r  Starry Messenger   Jun-30-10 08:04 PM   #19 
  - K&R thanks for posting..I was discussing this with a teacher tonight that is disgusted!! eom  flyarm   Jun-30-10 09:33 PM   #22 
  - Teachers are just waking up to what is happening.  madfloridian   Jul-01-10 11:32 AM   #37 
  - K&R  Odin2005   Jun-30-10 10:05 PM   #24 
  - Kick & Rec #34 From Me  Dinger   Jun-30-10 10:39 PM   #27 
  - But, charter schools BORROW MORE and keep our friends the bankers happy.  Festivito   Jul-01-10 05:56 AM   #28 
  - I'd be willing to bet that the people RUNNING the charter schools are doing fine though  SoCalDem   Jul-01-10 06:35 AM   #29 
  - Good points. Trouble is those welcoming arms might not be there soon.  madfloridian   Jul-01-10 10:11 AM   #32 
  - Classroom paradigm is the problem  txlibdem   Jul-01-10 10:26 AM   #34 
  - Teachers have always individualized learning, but now they teach to the test.  madfloridian   Jul-01-10 10:39 AM   #35 
     - exactly my point  txlibdem   Jul-01-10 02:53 PM   #40 
  - I would suggest people go and read the article from the Christian Science Monitor  NJmaverick   Jul-01-10 11:39 AM   #38 
     - I did.  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-01-10 01:27 PM   #39 
 

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