colsohlibgal
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Wed Jun-30-10 11:13 PM
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Who can't get by on $5.31 a month? Just don't get sick, don't get hungry, cold or hot and get used to living outside. Wow. Another let them eat cake moment.
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| -I missed this sickening Supreme Court decision. More open season on older Americans |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jun-30-10 06:55 AM |
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Too many of these pension plans have been allowed |
xchrom |
Jun-30-10 07:10 AM |
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Yup. Now, not so much. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-01-10 12:40 AM |
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The new SCOTUS |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-30-10 07:14 AM |
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This pattern is a wake up call! Congress? They are basically calling for IMPEACHMENT! |
cascadiance |
Jun-30-10 09:44 PM |
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OOOH!! I like your idea a LOT, cascadiance. A whole lot!! |
bertman |
Jun-30-10 09:57 PM |
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I could go for that! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-01-10 12:09 AM |
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I thought they should have been impeached for stopping the vote count |
AnotherDreamWeaver |
Jul-01-10 01:11 AM |
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Precisely. That was, in brute naked form, a coup d'etat. And we ALL took it like dogs. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-01-10 12:49 PM |
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corporate pandering will be the norm for years to come under this court. |
DrDan |
Jun-30-10 07:20 AM |
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One reason I favor 401K. The money is mine and it is in my name. |
Statistical |
Jun-30-10 07:27 AM |
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Exactly right |
customerserviceguy |
Jun-30-10 07:41 AM |
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401ks are a risky investment. Do you know where your money is invested? |
fasttense |
Jul-01-10 04:57 AM |
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All mine is in money market funds |
customerserviceguy |
Jul-01-10 05:32 PM |
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My IBM pension is an annuity. The problem is that most large companies that had defined benefits |
sinkingfeeling |
Jun-30-10 08:07 AM |
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ah, Fidelity |
northernlights |
Jun-30-10 08:19 PM |
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Yes, I favor 401Ks as well, for the reasons you mentioned n/t |
tammywammy |
Jun-30-10 09:57 AM |
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The problem is that 401K is a giant GAMBLE. |
gorfle |
Jun-30-10 10:44 AM |
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One can always take less risk. 401K =/= stock market. |
Statistical |
Jun-30-10 11:05 AM |
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Less money and no pension |
sandnsea |
Jun-30-10 03:20 PM |
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Agreed - when the little guy has that much money on the table, |
Flatulo |
Jun-30-10 09:21 PM |
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+1 nt |
laughingliberal |
Jul-01-10 12:42 AM |
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The problem I have with 401Ks |
Shireling |
Jun-30-10 07:23 PM |
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The 401K at dh's new job... |
Dappleganger |
Jun-30-10 08:04 PM |
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A bucket that has a significant leak in it... It's called inflation |
Grinchie |
Jun-30-10 07:40 PM |
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The employer can limit your options in the 401-K. You can only invest in what they permit. |
SharonAnn |
Jun-30-10 08:18 PM |
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And the 10% of people who know what the fuck you are talking about |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-01-10 12:12 AM |
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For those who don't care for 401K,s consider and IRA. |
Dawson Leery |
Jul-01-10 12:46 AM |
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Those 401Ks really worked great for Enron |
ProudDad |
Jul-01-10 12:47 AM |
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I favor all three and am lucky to have them all |
Sherman A1 |
Jul-01-10 04:24 AM |
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I agree. |
ParkieDem |
Jul-01-10 02:41 PM |
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They might as well start building the soylent green centers now. |
cornermouse |
Jun-30-10 07:27 AM |
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Have you noticed that |
femrap |
Jun-30-10 03:14 PM |
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The biggest problem I have |
izquierdista |
Jun-30-10 08:02 AM |
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The High Court sides with companies over workers and retirees. What a shocking surprise. |
BurtWorm |
Jun-30-10 08:09 AM |
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How does that make any sense at all? |
redqueen |
Jun-30-10 08:13 AM |
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Who was the 5th justice? |
MiniMe |
Jun-30-10 08:26 AM |
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My guess without even looking is the 5th was Kennedy. n/t |
Statistical |
Jun-30-10 08:44 AM |
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Kennedy was the 5th |
dsc |
Jun-30-10 08:52 AM |
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Figures, the usual suspects. |
MiniMe |
Jun-30-10 01:11 PM |
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This case was about Xerox, not IBM... |
ljm2002 |
Jul-01-10 09:46 AM |
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Our White House & Congress are controlled by Dems. Can't they can work to pass legislation to undo |
Karmadillo |
Jun-30-10 09:31 AM |
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Yeah, like they're rushing to undo the Citizens United ruling. |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jun-30-10 07:34 PM |
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The W.H. and congresscritters |
ProudDad |
Jul-01-10 12:48 AM |
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But, of course, we need to dismantle the social safety net and privatize all retirement benefits. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jun-30-10 11:25 AM |
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Once privatized, there will be no benefits. Period. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-01-10 12:50 PM |
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America |
lsewpershad |
Jun-30-10 12:51 PM |
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The felonious five now aiding and abetting corporate rape and pillage on |
indepat |
Jun-30-10 01:17 PM |
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Holy shit! |
meegbear |
Jun-30-10 02:02 PM |
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I just finished reading the entire |
femrap |
Jun-30-10 03:27 PM |
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Around here, the severance packages were from the State government |
csziggy |
Jun-30-10 07:13 PM |
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"All I gotta say, Never trust a corporation." |
Enthusiast |
Jul-01-10 12:44 AM |
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Souter didn't |
femrap |
Jul-01-10 12:46 PM |
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Yes, |
Enthusiast |
Jul-01-10 01:43 PM |
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Liberal is a |
femrap |
Jul-02-10 10:03 AM |
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Without liberal thought |
Enthusiast |
Jul-02-10 10:46 AM |
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Yes yes yes |
Art_from_Ark |
Jul-03-10 07:35 AM |
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So Frommert accepted a lump sum, but expected the same retirement? |
csziggy |
Jun-30-10 03:50 PM |
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Thanks for reading further into this particular case. Good analysis. |
K Gardner |
Jun-30-10 06:53 PM |
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I don't understand your point? |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-30-10 07:08 PM |
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Frommert paid off his house with his severance pay in 1985 |
csziggy |
Jun-30-10 07:38 PM |
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I see, thanks. |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-30-10 11:17 PM |
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The point is not Frommert's individual circumstance. The point is the decision itself |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jul-01-10 05:49 AM |
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i think a lot of people who supported reagan's brave new world are going to rue the day. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-30-10 06:58 PM |
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GOP Boehner et al want us to go to a "private" retirement program so they can steal it too? |
1776Forever |
Jun-30-10 07:57 PM |
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the little people COULD tell Xerox what they think - but does Xerox make |
peacetalksforall |
Jun-30-10 08:01 PM |
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This may sound horrible |
JustAnotherGen |
Jun-30-10 08:17 PM |
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They aren't activist judges, more simply, they are corporate tools. nt |
Javaman |
Jun-30-10 09:54 PM |
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Nice |
colsohlibgal |
Jun-30-10 11:13 PM |
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Real pensions will be disappeared within 20 years anyway. |
TransitJohn |
Jul-01-10 12:36 AM |
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But the 401Ks will still be overseen by your plan administrator |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jul-01-10 07:41 AM |
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The Robert's court. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-01-10 12:39 AM |
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And the US is trying to force this thievery and slavery on the EU. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-01-10 12:52 PM |
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They are preparing the ground for mass pension theft |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jul-01-10 12:53 PM |
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