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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #79
86. Not all workers believe they have the right
to a comfortable and secure life with decent wages. And that's just fucking sad.
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  -UAW vows to 'pound' Toyota in unionizing effort NNN0LHI  Jun-29-10 10:28 AM   #0 
  - Great news that UAW vows to 'pound' Toyota. Alabama needs all the jobs we can get. n/t  jody   Jun-29-10 10:32 AM   #1 
  - It be better if they were UNION jobs  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-29-10 11:53 AM   #6 
  - I have several close friends who work at the Hyundai plant in Montgomery AL. They are quite happy.  jody   Jun-29-10 12:07 PM   #7 
     - And I am talking history and trends  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-29-10 12:14 PM   #8 
     - yep  guitar man   Jun-29-10 12:27 PM   #9 
     - I'm sure the people who work 22 hrs a day for $0.0001 an hour in Southeast Asia are happy too.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-29-10 03:00 PM   #21 
     - Must be fools to be happy with lower pay, less benefits, and less job protection n/t  Taitertots   Jun-29-10 03:10 PM   #23 
     - Fools, or they could be making more money  Theobald   Jun-30-10 12:31 PM   #45 
        - The key line is "Toyota would not provide a U.S. average"  Taitertots   Jun-30-10 04:34 PM   #61 
     - Around here "freedom of association" means "membership is mandatory"  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jun-30-10 12:55 AM   #31 
     - Yeah who the hell wants good wages and benefits?  spoony   Jun-30-10 03:34 AM   #36 
        - So, why in more than thirty years has the UAW failed to unionize Marysville?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jun-30-10 03:42 AM   #37 
           - Because Japanese plants are purposefully sited in depressed areas with anti-union laws.  Romulox   Jun-30-10 07:46 AM   #39 
              - Marysville is in Ohio, not Alabama  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jun-30-10 02:49 PM   #55 
              - Who said that it was? I noticed you didn't address the point about low quality cars coming from  Romulox   Jul-01-10 07:56 AM   #72 
                 - fine then, what of the Chrysler plants Daimler threatened to shutter over quality?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jul-01-10 12:45 PM   #81 
                    - Mercedes Benz raped Chrysler and then fled the scene  Romulox   Jul-02-10 08:27 AM   #94 
              - We've seen such an incredible increase of japanese trade-ins the past three months  DainBramaged   Jun-30-10 03:08 PM   #56 
                 - Perhaps GM didn't build a competitive car because it wanted to go bankrupt and dump its retirement  jody   Jun-30-10 04:13 PM   #59 
                 - The Obama administration made that decision, if you'll recall.  Romulox   Jul-01-10 07:57 AM   #73 
                    - GM's slow decline in quality and market share into bankruptcy began at least two decades ago. n/t  jody   Jul-01-10 08:18 AM   #76 
                       - Actually, that is factually incorrect.  Romulox   Jul-01-10 08:27 AM   #77 
                          - We've exchange opinions and IMO facts support mine. Have a nice day. n/t  jody   Jul-01-10 09:22 AM   #78 
                             - Heh. That's an interesting way of conceding a point.  Romulox   Jul-01-10 10:23 AM   #80 
                                - I concede nothing but I do realize the futility of exchanging views with those who are not objective...  jody   Jul-01-10 04:21 PM   #88 
                                   - Flaccid ad hom = you got nothing.  Romulox   Jul-01-10 04:31 PM   #90 
                 - Good to see you back among the living!  Romulox   Jul-01-10 07:59 AM   #74 
                 - Good to see you back among the living!  Romulox   Jul-01-10 07:59 AM   #75 
     - The unionized Mercedes workers in Germany are happier than the Alabamans.  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 12:14 PM   #44 
        - Do you have a credible cite for your assertion? n/t  jody   Jun-30-10 01:24 PM   #46 
        - Do you?  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 01:48 PM   #47 
           - I used a few friends for #7 and did not generalize to all workers. You however generalized by  jody   Jun-30-10 01:59 PM   #48 
              - Ok. 20,000 of my closest friends in Stuttgard are happier than your friends.  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 02:04 PM   #49 
                 - ROFL, have a great day. n/t  jody   Jun-30-10 02:06 PM   #50 
                 - don't forget the brothels  guitar man   Jun-30-10 02:38 PM   #54 
        - How much of that is because the German workers are unionized...  jmowreader   Jun-30-10 04:22 PM   #60 
           - It's the... Huhn oder die ei.  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 09:55 PM   #62 
              - Essen Sie Eier am Bier?  jmowreader   Jul-01-10 03:32 PM   #84 
  - Union-busters and scab supporters  Codeine   Jun-29-10 02:21 PM   #13 
     - Yet...they aren't. nt  spoony   Jun-29-10 02:28 PM   #15 
     - Wait till a "marxist" or a poster with a "union yes!" avatar shows up  Romulox   Jun-30-10 07:48 AM   #40 
     - They aren't though, and they hide behind their keyboards  DainBramaged   Jun-30-10 03:11 PM   #57 
  - Awesome!  Radical Activist   Jun-29-10 10:38 AM   #2 
  - If Toyota has been using  safeinOhio   Jun-29-10 11:42 AM   #3 
  - look how Nissan succeeded in its union-busting tactics:  amborin   Jun-29-10 04:24 PM   #26 
  - You can't undercut the competition, then raise your standards once they're crushed...  Romulox   Jun-29-10 11:47 AM   #4 
  - the 'race to the bottom' ethos! just give me a job, no matter the low wages & sweatshop conditions  amborin   Jun-29-10 01:13 PM   #10 
     - Please don't confuse the pathologist with the carcinogen, ok?  Romulox   Jun-29-10 02:53 PM   #16 
  - Yay for the UAW.  Kalyke   Jun-29-10 11:51 AM   #5 
  - Huh?  sixstrings75   Jun-29-10 01:18 PM   #11 
  - Did you even read the OP?  Romulox   Jun-29-10 02:54 PM   #17 
     - Did I reply to the OP? Can you read? n/t.  sixstrings75   Jun-29-10 02:59 PM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-10 03:11 PM   #24 
           - I find your replies insulting.  sixstrings75   Jun-29-10 08:29 PM   #28 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-10 07:45 AM   #38 
  - "since the profits it earns don't stay in the United States "  Statistical   Jun-29-10 01:47 PM   #12 
  - Simply nonsense. A large portion of "profits" are reinvested in host communities.  Romulox   Jun-29-10 02:55 PM   #18 
     - Well those aren't profits. Those are wages.  Statistical   Jun-29-10 02:58 PM   #19 
        - No, not just "wages"  Romulox   Jun-29-10 03:07 PM   #22 
        - Wages that go to buying clothes made in Taiwan,  Kalyke   Jun-29-10 11:20 PM   #29 
           - Well when I can buy those American made  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-30-10 01:01 AM   #33 
  - Economics fail.  Codeine   Jun-29-10 02:24 PM   #14 
     - Economics fail.  Kalyke   Jun-30-10 12:56 AM   #32 
        - "Faux female avatars"? "Treat women as objects"?  Codeine   Jun-30-10 01:46 AM   #34 
           - I'm not ignoring you and...  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 10:19 PM   #65 
              - AWW! Thank you!  Codeine   Jun-30-10 10:31 PM   #68 
  - A unionized Toyota plant...  SidDithers   Jun-29-10 04:09 PM   #25 
  - As a UAW member those workers would become instant union brothers and sisters to me  NNN0LHI   Jun-29-10 04:35 PM   #27 
  - i hope the UAW succeeds! it'll be a tough slog; Toyota is notorious for its union-avoidant and union  amborin   Jun-29-10 11:23 PM   #30 
  - I also  DainBramaged   Jun-30-10 02:32 PM   #53 
  - Same here  mitchtv   Jun-30-10 10:14 PM   #63 
  - A CWA brother here agrees!  Touchdown   Jun-30-10 10:20 PM   #66 
  - Not really.  Codeine   Jun-30-10 01:48 AM   #35 
  - Likewise, you'll need to ditch the Toyota to stay true to your own  Romulox   Jun-30-10 07:50 AM   #41 
     - Both I and my wife drive Dodges...  SidDithers   Jun-30-10 11:44 AM   #43 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-10 03:44 PM   #58 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-10 11:56 PM   #69 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-01-10 07:40 AM   #70 
                 - My neighbors work for Hyundai  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jul-01-10 02:48 PM   #82 
                 - You bought the foreign iron BEFORE all that happen. It's called a "pretext".  Romulox   Jul-02-10 08:23 AM   #92 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-01-10 06:47 PM   #91 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-02-10 08:25 AM   #93 
  - The Reaganites are out again.  TheKentuckian   Jun-30-10 08:05 AM   #42 
  - Good luck with that  Mudoria   Jun-30-10 02:29 PM   #51 
  - Go Unions!  upi402   Jun-30-10 02:31 PM   #52 
  - recommend  TexasObserver   Jun-30-10 10:17 PM   #64 
  - Wow, maybe the workers there DO NOT want to be union? Is that ok?  KansasVoter   Jun-30-10 10:30 PM   #67 
  - They're called "scabs" for a reason, you know.  Romulox   Jul-01-10 07:41 AM   #71 
  - You are correct. Not all workers believe union marketing rhetoric. n/t  jody   Jul-01-10 09:24 AM   #79 
     - Not all workers believe they have the right  Codeine   Jul-01-10 03:51 PM   #86 
        - Those workers you claim to represent have the right to start their on business, become profitable, &  jody   Jul-01-10 04:30 PM   #89 
        - Either this poster belongs on this site, or I do.  Romulox   Jul-02-10 08:30 AM   #95 
           - I support the Democratic Party on Economic Stewardship and Entrepreneurship. Do you?  jody   Jul-02-10 12:47 PM   #101 
              - Nope. I hold the same economic positions as I did before the Party moved hard to the Right.  Romulox   Jul-02-10 03:04 PM   #104 
                 - You answered your own question "Either this poster belongs on this site, or I do. Not both." n/t  jody   Jul-02-10 03:21 PM   #105 
                    - Another lame way to concede a point, but whatever.  Romulox   Jul-02-10 03:30 PM   #106 
                       - ROFL. n/t  jody   Jul-02-10 03:48 PM   #107 
        - Revolving door furloughs are part of a "secure life" ?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jul-02-10 04:27 PM   #108 
  - Maybe we can "pound" them all the way to Mexico!!!  KansasVoter   Jul-01-10 02:50 PM   #83 
  - Play that fear card.  Codeine   Jul-01-10 03:46 PM   #85 
  - Yea right, like no USA automobile factories have moved to mexico. Are you serious?  KansasVoter   Jul-01-10 04:19 PM   #87 
     - I don't see what the problem is  diveguy   Jul-02-10 08:38 AM   #98 
        - Shame on you for reporting personal experiences to counter utopian fantasies. Shame, shame! n/t  jody   Jul-02-10 08:59 AM   #99 
        - LOL. Darn union, asking you to stick up for your co-workers!  Romulox   Jul-02-10 10:51 AM   #100 
           - why should we  diveguy   Jul-02-10 02:55 PM   #103 
  - When my ancestors first arrived here, they worked as sharecroppers.  Romulox   Jul-02-10 08:31 AM   #96 
  - Shit to late to recommend 900 times.  lonestarnot   Jul-02-10 08:32 AM   #97 
  - UAW is really scrambling to cover that 17 billion dollar underfunding  deaniac21   Jul-02-10 01:41 PM   #102 
     - Toyota recently dumped their pension obligations onto the US taxpayers to pay  NNN0LHI   Jul-02-10 04:39 PM   #109 
 

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