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Mon Jun-28-10 05:14 AM
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| 110. Oregon has managed to garner about 70+% of the votes... |
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every election since going to 'vote by mail.' All too many states prefer the confusion that occurs when they offer absentee ballots and other methods/hours/days that make the process too complicated for many people.
Repugnants prefer the 'confusion/obfuscation' of the more traditional election day panic.
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| -Why do lower income people vote in lower numbers? |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 08:45 PM |
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Because we are busy trying to make a living. |
Edweird |
Jun-27-10 08:48 PM |
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Isn't that why the polls are open until around 9 pm? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 08:59 PM |
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Sometimes that doesn't cut it. |
Edweird |
Jun-27-10 09:09 PM |
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especially for those needing to pay for child care/ relying on public transportation |
havocmom |
Jun-27-10 11:18 PM |
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All the more reason for folks who can, to step up and volunteer to drive voters |
CTyankee |
Jun-28-10 08:05 AM |
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Yep. Get aware of the logistical problems others face, then help them overcome |
havocmom |
Jun-28-10 09:28 AM |
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+1 |
slampoet |
Jun-28-10 11:17 AM |
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Our Govt. should treat this day as a day off with pay. |
midnight |
Jun-27-10 11:38 PM |
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We middle-income people are busy trying to make a living too |
slackmaster |
Jun-28-10 10:07 AM |
#116 |
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Because for a lot of these people |
Mz Pip |
Jun-27-10 08:48 PM |
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Sadly, there's a lot of truth to that. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-27-10 10:51 PM |
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they don't feel it does any good |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 08:49 PM |
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Well but that's because they don't vote |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 09:01 PM |
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Uh, maybe you didn't notice, but a LOT of people |
Edweird |
Jun-27-10 09:12 PM |
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You did not |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 09:15 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-27-10 09:25 PM |
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Stupid. Why are you even here, then? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:29 PM |
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And the vicious cycle continues. |
Arkana |
Jun-27-10 09:41 PM |
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Because those at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs... |
Ozymanithrax |
Jun-27-10 08:50 PM |
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I bet if they had gotten actual health care or an actual helping hand when the banks fucked 'em . . |
Stinky The Clown |
Jun-27-10 08:51 PM |
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+1,000 n/t |
me b zola |
Jun-27-10 10:58 PM |
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Perhaps because there are few candidates who represent |
Blue Meany |
Jun-27-10 08:52 PM |
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felony records? |
panader0 |
Jun-27-10 08:53 PM |
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Yeah, that is a factor. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 08:57 PM |
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I just want to clarify ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-27-10 08:58 PM |
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They're probably poor because they have a felony background |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:05 PM |
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"They're probably poor because they have a felony background." WTF? |
Bobbie Jo |
Jun-27-10 09:41 PM |
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I am not saying poor=ex-felon. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 10:16 PM |
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I didn't put words in your mouth, I used your own words. |
Bobbie Jo |
Jun-27-10 11:14 PM |
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She *quoted* you ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-28-10 05:18 AM |
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Rules of civility prevent me from saying what I want to say ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-27-10 09:45 PM |
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Oh don't be civil. Say what you want to say. NT |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 10:14 PM |
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Then you consider the racial statistics about who is more likely to get a felony. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 09:52 PM |
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I agree with this ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-27-10 09:57 PM |
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I do consider it. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 10:14 PM |
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I don't think it's a huge factor, but it has some percentage. |
panader0 |
Jun-27-10 09:09 PM |
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Yeah I want clarification of that one too |
SunsetDreams |
Jun-27-10 09:17 PM |
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Yes, depending on the state. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 09:47 PM |
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That is not the question ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-27-10 09:52 PM |
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What if 5.3 Million More Americans Could Vote? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 09:57 PM |
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Granted ... |
RoyGBiv |
Jun-27-10 10:00 PM |
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Sure. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:19 PM |
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"There's a high correlation between being low income and having a felony record." |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 10:17 PM |
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Another reason is they move residences more |
Yupster |
Jun-28-10 12:12 AM |
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I agree with the first 4 comments |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 08:56 PM |
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Agree with that - everyone should have the day off |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 09:00 PM |
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I'd be fine with absentee voting arrangements being made |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:03 PM |
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They work on Tuesday? nt |
bemildred |
Jun-27-10 09:01 PM |
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Some of them get no sense of empowerment from the voting process. |
undeterred |
Jun-27-10 09:03 PM |
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Voting is made difficult for working people |
Warpy |
Jun-27-10 09:04 PM |
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+1 |
Bonobo |
Jun-27-10 09:11 PM |
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Very great points, especially the polling places. NT |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:16 PM |
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I live in an apartment for people with low-income |
RidinMyDonkey |
Jun-27-10 09:04 PM |
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Free public transportation on election days would be nice. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:20 PM |
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Socio-economic status has a strong positive correlation with with educational levels |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 09:04 PM |
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These days it seems getting an education doesn't correlate with higher income levels. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:05 PM |
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Because it doesn't really matter who they vote for |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-27-10 09:05 PM |
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Aren't we screwed as a nation if we just say "well, that's all you're gonna get" |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 09:11 PM |
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I never said that's what we should do |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-27-10 09:23 PM |
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Yeah, sorry, that was more of a rhetorical question |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 10:50 PM |
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Not true at all, and there have been programs passed for the poor |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 09:23 PM |
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The programs passed for the poor are a band aid on a bullet wound |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-27-10 09:30 PM |
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Why would the poor think about corporations so much? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:26 PM |
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I never claimed I speak for the poor |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-27-10 11:51 PM |
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you're not poor are you? |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 11:10 PM |
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What's the point of your post? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:25 PM |
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I wouldn't necessarily be the one giving you that perspective, |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 11:34 PM |
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Voting would make them less victimized |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:39 PM |
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lets try something else, next election |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 11:51 PM |
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But that's a catch 22 |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-27-10 10:06 PM |
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I agree. The trick is to get them to do the same. n/t |
Downtown Hound |
Jun-27-10 10:11 PM |
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EXACTLY! |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 11:09 PM |
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bingo |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 11:26 PM |
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Ergo, the Republicans attack ACORN |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:27 PM |
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What has been the reponse from the left to this assault? |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 11:30 PM |
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This is one of the reasons that Republicans fight compulsory voting |
Number23 |
Jun-27-10 09:06 PM |
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residential dislocation, due to poverty, often leads to failure to register to vote |
amborin |
Jun-27-10 09:07 PM |
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not to mention actual homelessness |
Kali |
Jun-27-10 11:27 PM |
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Does anybody think we should have more voter outreach so we can get what we want - more progressives |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 09:07 PM |
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Especially from people who want progressives in office |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 09:22 PM |
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Or. . . |
matt819 |
Jun-27-10 09:11 PM |
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So the 'smart' person does not vote? |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 11:24 PM |
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Why are elections held on working days? |
Bonobo |
Jun-27-10 09:11 PM |
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Agreed on all points |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 09:13 PM |
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Cause people is overwhelmed. |
Bonobo |
Jun-27-10 09:17 PM |
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Oooh automatically, that would be nice. |
SocialistLez |
Jun-27-10 09:18 PM |
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If they were held on holidays we'd hear complaints about working people losing their day off |
Retrograde |
Jun-27-10 09:40 PM |
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It has to do with education and the information threshold. |
tekisui |
Jun-27-10 09:14 PM |
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Agreed |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 10:53 PM |
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Many have given up |
KT2000 |
Jun-27-10 09:24 PM |
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But isn't that just increasing that very problem? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:35 PM |
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It sure does increase the problem |
KT2000 |
Jun-28-10 03:12 AM |
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Because they are smarter.. |
sendero |
Jun-27-10 09:38 PM |
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By the time we get up at 5am |
noamnety |
Jun-27-10 09:38 PM |
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This is talking about one day |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:31 PM |
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The OP asked |
noamnety |
Jun-27-10 11:40 PM |
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Should the left be doing more to make it easier for these people to vote? |
HughMoran |
Jun-28-10 10:38 AM |
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Because they know politicians don't give a fuck about them |
Oregone |
Jun-27-10 09:41 PM |
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Because we have to work all day to make ends meet. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-27-10 09:42 PM |
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Unnecessarily restrictive voter registration laws disenfranchise millions every year. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:03 PM |
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bingo |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 10:03 PM |
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Most everyone can vote by mail here in CA. |
county worker |
Jun-27-10 10:13 PM |
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For one, voting is a dominated strategy |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-27-10 10:23 PM |
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Sweet Jesus: that's not a question, it's a dissertation topic |
Alcibiades |
Jun-27-10 10:31 PM |
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Jun-27-10 10:40 PM |
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Yes, that does seem to be the OP's intent (nt) |
varelse |
Jun-27-10 10:47 PM |
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The intent is in posts 84 & 95 |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 11:42 PM |
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I am |
varelse |
Jun-28-10 10:31 PM |
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Jun-28-10 01:09 AM |
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Logical falacy |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 10:55 PM |
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If they voted the government would neglect the more? |
treestar |
Jun-27-10 11:36 PM |
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Well hell! Fuck the poor, then! |
donco6 |
Jun-27-10 10:45 PM |
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I was hoping for someone to point out that ACORN and other groups |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 10:56 PM |
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I see good intentions and poor listening. |
noamnety |
Jun-28-10 12:11 AM |
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Dunno, I read it in this thread repeatedly |
HughMoran |
Jun-28-10 07:48 AM |
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What I see in this thread |
noamnety |
Jun-28-10 10:41 AM |
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Because the working poor work a lot longer and harder hours |
Rex |
Jun-27-10 10:53 PM |
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Doesn't this data emphasize the need for organizations like ACORN |
HughMoran |
Jun-27-10 11:04 PM |
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Oregon has managed to garner about 70+% of the votes... |
hayu_lol |
Jun-28-10 05:14 AM |
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vote by mail, yes. |
noamnety |
Jun-28-10 12:07 PM |
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I remember talk about making the GE a national holliday |
USArmyParatrooper |
Jun-28-10 10:05 AM |
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Yeah, it's pretty sickening |
HughMoran |
Jun-28-10 10:11 AM |
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It should be one. Ridiculous that it is not. |
Jennicut |
Jun-28-10 10:41 AM |
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Or go to vote by mail like Oregon. I love it. I can actually sit down with my ballot and my |
OregonBlue |
Jun-28-10 12:09 PM |
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