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| 95. I heard President Obama at a town hall where he spoke to this. |
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I sincerely hope he sticks by it when the Cat Food Commission headed by Alan "I hate all old people except me" Simpson comes out with their recommendation to raise the benefit age to 73 and cut the benefit amounts.
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| -President Obama's position on Social Security |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 08:54 AM |
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obama weakens everything he proposes - aim low and settle for less nt |
msongs |
Jun-27-10 08:56 AM |
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Is that why |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 08:58 AM |
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Jun-27-10 09:07 AM |
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Excuse me? n/t |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 09:09 AM |
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Jun-27-10 09:21 AM |
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Yeah, I forgot that it's "cheerleading" to actually listen to what the President has to say |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 09:25 AM |
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The President says a lot of things- and ends up doing, or acceding to, others -sometime preemptively |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 09:46 AM |
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self delete |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 09:58 AM |
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Yep, yep, yeppers. |
cliffordu |
Jun-27-10 11:02 AM |
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Exactly |
joe black |
Jun-27-10 09:46 AM |
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Thats rich. |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-10 10:33 AM |
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The Senate weakens everything Obama proposes. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 09:44 AM |
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That's demonstrably not true |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 09:54 AM |
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"the administration intervened in Congress on behalf of exorbitant CEO compensation packages" Wrong |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 10:08 AM |
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Jun-27-10 10:14 AM |
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Here |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 10:16 AM |
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He has facts. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:18 AM |
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There is a gaping chasm between what the administration claims to propose and what it actually does |
girl gone mad |
Jun-28-10 05:09 AM |
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It was true on health care, financial reform, energy, closing gitmo, and every major bill. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:14 AM |
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That's also demonstrably false |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 10:17 AM |
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What exactly is false? The fact that you wrote nothing must be the answer. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:22 AM |
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It's gotten to the point where it's not even worth arguing |
depakid |
Jun-27-10 10:52 AM |
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+1 |
whatchamacallit |
Jun-27-10 01:32 PM |
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Maybe if The President... |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-10 10:43 AM |
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It might help. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 10:48 AM |
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What about the people holding Lincoln's derivative bill up as the |
ProSense |
Jun-27-10 10:49 AM |
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They had to toss "something" to poor Blanche. |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-10 11:17 AM |
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Everybody knows it will be watered down by the regulators. |
girl gone mad |
Jun-28-10 05:03 AM |
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Not true. |
girl gone mad |
Jun-28-10 05:00 AM |
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That's not fair to speak of the President in that way. |
Xenotime |
Jun-27-10 10:59 AM |
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Not fair to The President??? |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-10 01:47 PM |
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Did you really read all of those in 2 minutes? |
SunsetDreams |
Jun-27-10 04:32 PM |
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Want to strengthen the economy? |
unhappycamper |
Jun-27-10 09:02 AM |
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+1,000 |
Scuba |
Jun-27-10 09:41 AM |
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K&R...n/t |
Oceansaway |
Jun-27-10 09:09 AM |
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Thank you for posting this. |
moriah |
Jun-27-10 09:34 AM |
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That's good, but it means nothing to us. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-27-10 09:36 AM |
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Thanks for pointing out the truth. |
jaxx |
Jun-27-10 09:39 AM |
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Last summer the conversation shifted from single payer/public option to |
midnight |
Jun-27-10 10:20 AM |
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The media prints what they can spin a story into. Nothing less. |
jaxx |
Jun-27-10 11:14 AM |
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And since the campaign Obama has fired his entire economic team and replaced them with DLCers. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jun-27-10 09:41 AM |
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While the suggestion was first made in 2008, that town hall quoted was in 2010 |
moriah |
Jun-27-10 09:43 AM |
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Social Security is the most unfair, regressive tax. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 09:46 AM |
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Well, I can say my mom was a boomer, but not wealthy.... |
moriah |
Jun-27-10 10:03 AM |
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Please stop saying that..... |
Wounded Bear |
Jun-27-10 10:15 AM |
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That I agree with you on -- figuring out a way to fix it. |
moriah |
Jun-27-10 10:45 AM |
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it doesn't need to be "fixed". it needs to be repaid $2.5 billion dollars. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 04:00 AM |
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.... and if we do only that, just how long will it last? |
moriah |
Jun-28-10 04:49 AM |
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you're talking about forecasts of 30 years into the future. i suggest |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 04:54 AM |
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I'm really, really damn confused right now. |
moriah |
Jun-28-10 05:18 AM |
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I'll assume you're young & naive. I was young & naive thirty years ago when reagan pulled this same |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 05:54 AM |
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Okay, maybe I do need you to enlighten me, because I'm still damn confused here. |
moriah |
Jun-28-10 10:52 AM |
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the billion was a brain fart. i'm well aware of the correct figures; read my journal. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 03:19 PM |
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Thank you for pointing to your journal. |
moriah |
Jun-28-10 04:54 PM |
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About $2.5 trillion is currently owed to the Social Security Trust Fund. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 05:19 PM |
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Because I would rather pay for my check now.... |
moriah |
Jun-28-10 05:42 PM |
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they're going to pay regardless. that's how the scam (of making workers pay twice) works. nice |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 06:12 PM |
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You asked for one reason, I gave you one. |
moriah |
Jun-29-10 12:04 PM |
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lol. why are you calling me "sweetie"? |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-30-10 01:37 AM |
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I wanted to show that there were no hard feelings. |
moriah |
Jun-30-10 09:52 AM |
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oh, baloney. social security provides 100% of income for 1/3 of recipients & more than 50% |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 03:59 AM |
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After the health care horror... |
joe black |
Jun-27-10 09:50 AM |
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Well here's something else he said about Social Security |
Lasher |
Jun-27-10 10:10 AM |
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See post 14. |
moriah |
Jun-27-10 10:37 AM |
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That's a big spin you're making. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 11:37 AM |
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I don't know how much more context you could possibly need. |
Lasher |
Jun-28-10 03:40 AM |
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So, Obama was criticizing Hillary for not specifying what she would do |
Radical Activist |
Jun-28-10 09:38 AM |
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Or maybe that was Orly Taitz impersonating Obama during the debate. |
Lasher |
Jun-29-10 05:49 AM |
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Thanks for your sense pro! nt |
flamingdem |
Jun-27-10 10:14 AM |
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Want to really FIX Medicare? |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-10 10:39 AM |
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Yeah, but Simpson and other members of the Catfood Commission have mentioned cutting benefits, |
MadHound |
Jun-27-10 11:12 AM |
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So we don't allow discussion of controversial ideas and only talk to people we agree with 100%? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 11:41 AM |
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Who is discussing alternatives to gutting social security on the Catfood Commission? |
w4rma |
Jun-27-10 11:59 AM |
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It has three of the most liberal members in Congress. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 12:02 PM |
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Only 3 out of 18 are nominally "liberal"?? Really? Why so few? |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 12:15 PM |
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I don't know how many are liberal and I doubt you do either. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 03:18 PM |
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You just defined them yourself, my friend. |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 04:13 PM |
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How about SEIU President Andy Stern? |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 04:25 PM |
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he's a member of congress? who knew? now who are the two other "most liberal" congresspeople? |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 04:03 AM |
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They have secret identities. |
Lasher |
Jun-29-10 06:03 AM |
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who would those be? |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-28-10 04:01 AM |
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You really don't have a clue, do you? |
MadHound |
Jun-27-10 12:49 PM |
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+10000!!!!! Thank you for stating it's so succinctly. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jun-27-10 01:56 PM |
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The only thing I've paid is the benefits of current SS recipients. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 03:16 PM |
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lol. Where do you get this stuff? |
girl gone mad |
Jun-28-10 05:26 AM |
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And Obama has proposed cutting tax loopholes, |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 12:05 PM |
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His actions in appointing privatizers to the debt commission speak louder |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 11:16 AM |
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The make up of the commission tells it all. |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 11:37 AM |
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Here's the list of members on the commission. Speaks louder than words. |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 11:41 AM |
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Three of the most liberal members of Congress. Awesome! |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 11:45 AM |
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Durbin said bleeding heart liberals would not be happy... |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 11:48 AM |
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The only quotes I can find were about the debt generally, not Social Security. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 12:00 PM |
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And here's the exact context and quote for you Mad |
Catherina |
Jun-27-10 02:11 PM |
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Thanks for that. |
madfloridian |
Jun-27-10 02:14 PM |
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You're welcome. Thank you for your objectivity and perseverance n/t |
Catherina |
Jun-27-10 02:25 PM |
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So no direct quote from Durbin suggesting cuts to SS. |
Radical Activist |
Jun-27-10 03:22 PM |
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They claim there's been no increase in cost of living |
Mimosa |
Jun-27-10 10:12 PM |
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I can't believe the lies they tell us to our faces. |
Catherina |
Jun-28-10 11:57 AM |
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It's the total military spending that is driving the country into the ground. |
L0oniX |
Jun-27-10 12:10 PM |
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thanks. lots of talk here that Obama is going to gut SS. |
Whisp |
Jun-27-10 03:23 PM |
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Social Security is NOT BROKEN. Obama should know that. nt |
earth mom |
Jun-27-10 04:27 PM |
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He adamantly opposed mandates and the taxing of benefits too. |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-27-10 04:32 PM |
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He stood behind transparency, but this Commission is locked up tighter |
tsuki |
Jun-28-10 04:04 AM |
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I heard President Obama at a town hall where he spoke to this. |
laughingliberal |
Jun-28-10 03:24 PM |
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