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218. Ted Kennedy always regretted not making that deal.
And the idea of HMO's is not that far from most managed health care plans in Europe and Asia.

Read Nixon's plan and honestly tell me The United States was better off without it.


First, it offers every American an opportunity to obtain a balanced, comprehensive range of health insurance benefits;

Second, it will cost no American more than he can afford to pay;

Third, it builds on the strength and diversity of our existing public and private systems of health financing and harmonizes them into an overall system;

Fourth, it uses public funds only where needed and requires no new Federal taxes;

Fifth, it would maintain freedom of choice by patients and ensure that doctors work for their patient, not for the Federal Government.

Sixth, it encourages more effective use of our health care resources;

And finally, it is organized so that all parties would have a direct stake in making the system work--consumer, provider, insurer, State governments and the Federal Government.

--Employee Health Insurance, covering most Americans and offered at their place of employment, with the cost to be shared by the employer and employee on a basis which would prevent excessive burdens on either;

--Assisted Health Insurance, covering low-income persons, and persons who would be ineligible for the other two programs, with Federal and State government paying those costs beyond the means of the individual who is insured; and,

--An improved Medicare Plan, covering those 65 and over and offered through a Medicare system that is modified to include additional, needed benefits.
One of these three plans would be available to every American, but for everyone, participation in the program would be voluntary.

The benefits offered by the three plans would be identical for all Americans, regardless of age or income. Benefits would be provided for:
--hospital care;
--physicians' care in and out of the hospital;
--prescription and life-saving drugs;
--laboratory tests and X-rays;
--medical devices;
--ambulance services; and,
--other ancillary health care.

There would be no exclusions of coverage based on the nature of the illness. For example, a person with heart disease would qualify for benefits as would a person with kidney disease.

In addition, CHIP would cover treatment for mental illness, alcoholism and drug addiction, whether that treatment were provided in hospitals and physicians' offices or in community based settings.

Certain nursing home services and other convalescent services would also be covered. For example, home health services would be covered so that long and costly stays in nursing homes could be averted where possible.

The health needs of children would come in for special attention, since many conditions, if detected in childhood, can be prevented from causing lifelong disability and learning handicaps. Included in these services for children would be:
--preventive care up to age six;
--eye examinations;
--hearing examinations; and,
--regular dental care up to age 13.

Under the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan, a doctor's decisions could be based on the health care needs of his patients, not on health insurance coverage. This difference is essential for quality care.

Every American participating in the program would be insured for catastrophic illnesses that can eat away savings and plunge individuals and families into hopeless debt for years. No family would ever have annual out-of-pocket expenses for covered health services in excess of $1,500, and low-income families would face substantially smaller expenses.

As part of this program, every American who participates in the program would receive a Health-card when the plan goes into effect in his State. This card, similar to a credit card, would be honored by hospitals, nursing homes, emergency rooms, doctors, and clinics across the country. This card could also be used to identify information on blood type and .sensitivity to particular drugs-information which might be important in an emergency.

Bills for the services paid for with the Health-card would be sent to the insurance carrier who would reimburse the provider of the care for covered services, then bill the patient for his share, if any.
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  -Will we ever elect a President as Liberal as Richard Nixon again... SunnySong  Jun-27-10 12:21 AM   #0 
  - That's why the Republican party took him out.  Skink   Jun-27-10 12:27 AM   #1 
  - Yep he was set up by poppy et al by the Townhouse scandal & the editing of tapes.  mod mom   Jun-27-10 08:49 AM   #77 
  - Townhouse scandal?  hootinholler   Jun-27-10 12:04 PM   #130 
  - I discovered it in Russ Baker's "Family of Secrets", here's an article he wrote:  mod mom   Jun-27-10 01:53 PM   #148 
     - Thanks for another wonderful post. Don't have time to read this  truedelphi   Jun-27-10 03:01 PM   #172 
     - Well damn it  hootinholler   Jun-27-10 03:25 PM   #174 
     - I know how you feel. I've starting watching this show "The Fabulous Beekman Brothers"  mod mom   Jun-27-10 05:56 PM   #185 
     - The Nixon Presidency was the culmination of a Right-Wing Coup  MinM   Jun-27-10 05:42 PM   #182 
     - Thanks for the recommendation.  mod mom   Jun-27-10 05:57 PM   #186 
     - ^ It's a MUST READ! ^ Thanks for the bullet points, Mod Mom!  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:09 PM   #198 
  - Interesting, but I think Nixon sank himself.  chrisa   Jun-28-10 08:17 AM   #240 
  - Nixon's paranoia destroyed him, not his party.  Arkana   Jun-27-10 02:04 PM   #153 
     - that's what the powers who did him in want you to believe:  mod mom   Jun-27-10 02:26 PM   #161 
     - You're right--Woodward and Bernstein just made up all that Watergate crap.  Arkana   Jun-27-10 07:44 PM   #213 
        - Woodward, who was the receiver of the information, was connected to intelligence.  mod mom   Jun-27-10 07:59 PM   #216 
           - Wow, this isn't an overdose of hyperbole and a massive strawman at all.  Arkana   Jun-27-10 09:43 PM   #226 
     - Maybe He Had Good Reason to Be Paranoid  Demeter   Jun-27-10 10:20 PM   #228 
  - You must know this post will go nowhere on DU  Goldstein1984   Jun-27-10 12:28 AM   #2 
  - We need to drain this nation of the greed of I've got mine and F you.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:35 AM   #7 
  - Off to the home page with this post.  obxhead   Jun-27-10 12:49 PM   #141 
  - By the success of this thread perhaps Neil should consider Alabama.  mod mom   Jun-27-10 02:01 PM   #151 
  - Guess you were wrong, eh?...nt  SidDithers   Jun-27-10 02:05 PM   #154 
  - So you want a liar who was forced into taking stances by a Democratic Congress? How about one as  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:29 AM   #3 
  - I will take the charlatan if I have to... FDR is a pipe dream... Nixon seems doable.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:30 AM   #4 
  - "Nixon seems doable." Right, because  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:41 AM   #12 
     - I'm not rewriting history... heck  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:45 AM   #14 
     - Quick test  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:57 AM   #15 
     - Fair enough but how many more Americans would bne alive today if we had passed the bill.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 01:01 AM   #18 
     - That's the rub isn't it?  ProSense   Jun-27-10 01:18 AM   #24 
        - Sorry. You don't need the rose colored glasses after all, you must be blind.  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:11 PM   #158 
     - Now you're claiming the the Insurance Profit Protection Act is single payer?  dflprincess   Jun-27-10 09:11 PM   #225 
     - "No more than he can afford to pay"  eridani   Jun-27-10 01:29 AM   #28 
     - What about the probable cuts in Medicare and Medicaid next year?  Better Believe It   Jun-27-10 09:25 AM   #82 
     - LOL. You just got schooled. n/t  leeroysphitz   Jun-27-10 10:11 AM   #89 
     - Never learned a lesson yet.  Jakes Progress   Jun-27-10 05:48 PM   #183 
     - I wish I had a job so I could by a pair of those rose colored glasses.  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:07 PM   #155 
     - I agree, stick to the facts. Like he has forgiven the Bush Admin war crimes.  rhett o rick   Jun-27-10 06:56 PM   #192 
     - Here's a fact. 50 million on food stamps dont give a shite about "green".  rhett o rick   Jun-27-10 07:08 PM   #196 
  - Lies versus the wrong skin color camps? I will take the lies. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-27-10 01:59 AM   #36 
  - Will we ever have a Congress as a liberal s that one?  Radical Activist   Jun-27-10 09:29 AM   #83 
  - No fair, not in the talking points to discuss Congress.  suzie   Jun-27-10 11:08 AM   #98 
  - Perfectly fair... where are the democrats in congress.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 01:07 PM   #145 
     - The greedy types were led by Nixon and his Southern Strategy, which has sold racism for the years  suzie   Jun-27-10 03:41 PM   #176 
  - How in the fuck is it obvious? Stick with facts for christ sake...........  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:17 PM   #159 
     - You think there are no conservative Democrats?  Radical Activist   Jun-27-10 03:37 PM   #175 
        - Believe whatever you want. Presidents have personalties too just.........  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 06:13 PM   #188 
           - Most of Nixon's supposed progressive accomplishments were forced on him by Congress.  Radical Activist   Jun-27-10 06:27 PM   #189 
              - Tell me where I "praise" Nixon? I swear to fucking god some..........  pattmarty   Jun-28-10 06:28 AM   #238 
  - I'll take an Obama who is "forced into taking stances" by a Democratic Congress.  JackRiddler   Jun-27-10 02:35 PM   #164 
  - FDR only passed people-friendly litigation  TBF   Jun-27-10 02:36 PM   #165 
  - I'd settle for someone as liberal  PSzymeczek   Jun-27-10 07:40 PM   #211 
     - Taft probably did more, but you're right -  TBF   Jun-28-10 02:38 PM   #241 
  - +1  UrbScotty   Jun-27-10 04:45 PM   #181 
  - NIXON IMPOSES WAGE AND PRICE CONTROLS!!!!!  madrchsod   Jun-27-10 12:32 AM   #5 
  - So Obama is not a socialist/nazi?  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:19 PM   #160 
  - Cheney and Rumsfeld started with Nixon dont need more of them  lunasun   Jun-27-10 12:34 AM   #6 
  - I'm not talking about the man of course I wouldn't want a Zombie president.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:37 AM   #10 
     - Zombie Reagan & Jindal  saigon68   Jun-27-10 01:13 AM   #22 
  - Yeah Nixon did all that, all by his little self  sandnsea   Jun-27-10 12:36 AM   #8 
  - No he had a Democratic congress and activst population turning the screws.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:38 AM   #11 
  - "Where are those elements today I ask you."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:43 AM   #13 
  - Today we have a Democratic Congress and WH that are owned by the corporatists.  rhett o rick   Jun-27-10 07:03 PM   #195 
  - Bought off. And bought off with the cheapest of bribes.  TheMadMonk   Jun-27-10 12:59 AM   #17 
  - Legislators are bought off with trinkets and beads.  Poboy   Jun-27-10 10:41 AM   #95 
  - Standing in a long line at B of A cashing their checks from lobbyists n/t  Catherina   Jun-27-10 02:30 PM   #162 
  - During his lunch hour, while he was planning Watergate, while he composed music with his left hand  Major Hogwash   Jun-27-10 03:56 PM   #178 
  - If these accomplishments were listed without being attributed to Nixon, we'd  gateley   Jun-27-10 12:36 AM   #9 
  - I appreciate this post, really shows how far our country has fallen.  scarletwoman   Jun-27-10 12:58 AM   #16 
  - "Little did I realize then that the real forces in the shadows who were taking him down "  ProSense   Jun-27-10 01:02 AM   #19 
     - Sorry, I no longer subscribe to such facile, one-dimensional views of that history.  scarletwoman   Jun-27-10 01:37 AM   #30 
     - "His downfall happened because he started believing he was the one in control -- he wasn't"  ProSense   Jun-27-10 01:40 AM   #32 
     - Because it was the even MORE EVIL "evil bastards" who did him in.  scarletwoman   Jun-27-10 01:46 AM   #33 
     - Well, I don't have sympathy for evil bastards who get what's coming to them.  ProSense   Jun-27-10 01:52 AM   #34 
        - Who said anything about sympathy?  scarletwoman   Jun-27-10 02:06 AM   #39 
           - Too subtle.  Jakes Progress   Jun-27-10 05:52 PM   #184 
     - Think Saddam.  Jackpine Radical   Jun-27-10 12:03 PM   #128 
     - ^Good insight, Scarletwoman^  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 04:20 AM   #52 
     - I think it really got going with the OSS/CIA in the last days of WWII  Jackpine Radical   Jun-27-10 12:39 PM   #140 
     - That's when Cheney and Rumsfeld started their evil plans for  treestar   Jun-27-10 08:45 AM   #74 
  - I see you are paraphrasing Jon Stewart. He did do a great one with this, didn't he?  Better Today   Jun-27-10 01:04 AM   #20 
  - Didn't see it but it wouldn't surprise me. The first time I heard this was from a  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 01:09 AM   #21 
  - For your enjoyment then, link below.  Better Today   Jun-27-10 01:16 AM   #23 
  - Jon Stewart is hilarious, but like any comedian  treestar   Jun-27-10 08:46 AM   #76 
     - If anything, Jon Stewart is consistently funny...  liberation   Jun-27-10 01:57 PM   #149 
  - Don't forget the Endangered Species Act  Lorien   Jun-27-10 01:21 AM   #25 
  - Or the EPA...  WCGreen   Jun-27-10 02:01 AM   #37 
  - D'oh! Can't believe I forgot that. The environment was a HUGE issue back then  Lorien   Jun-27-10 11:51 AM   #119 
  - And the National Environmental Policy Act (which is a BIG DEAL), and banning DDT  XemaSab   Jun-27-10 02:02 AM   #38 
     - The first Earth Day  PSzymeczek   Jun-27-10 07:44 PM   #214 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-10 01:24 AM   #26 
  - The discussion is about policies, not personalities  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 04:29 AM   #54 
  - Yeah, the same people who were cheering Jindal are now cheering Nixon. n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 08:14 AM   #69 
  - There's a shocker.  KonaKane   Jun-28-10 02:44 PM   #244 
  - Nixon was a psychopath, who was already talking about running for a third term.  suzie   Jun-27-10 11:15 AM   #102 
  - It's so hard to get many people around here to separate the two; personalities vs. policies  Lorien   Jun-27-10 12:01 PM   #126 
  - It's why we need a President and a Prime Minister  Hawkowl   Jun-27-10 01:59 PM   #150 
  - Policies like attempting to fix an election and then lie about it?  KonaKane   Jun-28-10 02:46 PM   #245 
  - Perspective matters.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-27-10 08:36 AM   #71 
     - In answer to your questions:  KonaKane   Jun-28-10 04:18 PM   #251 
  - And liberal republicans like Jacob Javits, Weiker, etc..  Cetacea   Jun-27-10 01:27 AM   #27 
  - sorry deleted  corpseratemedia   Jun-27-10 03:49 AM   #49 
  - Well, you are getting something very similar to his health plan!  depakid   Jun-27-10 01:35 AM   #29 
  - Occupation Health & Safety Administration  sce56   Jun-27-10 01:40 AM   #31 
  - Family of Secrets is a must read, a brilliant history  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:00 PM   #193 
  - If you pick and choose then Reagan is a liberal as well  AzNick   Jun-27-10 01:57 AM   #35 
  - Bush was a liberal  ProSense   Jun-27-10 02:10 AM   #40 
     - Again, if you pick and choose... Obama is a gun nut  AzNick   Jun-27-10 02:50 PM   #170 
  - Don't forget  ProSense   Jun-27-10 02:23 AM   #41 
  - Isn't it sad when we look back at a Republican who was  Goldstein1984   Jun-27-10 02:48 AM   #42 
  - You look upon the days when a president chose to send 28,000 Americans to their  suzie   Jun-27-10 11:40 AM   #112 
  - I never thought I'd see the day  greenbird   Jun-27-10 02:56 AM   #43 
  - What fresh Hell is this?  Hekate   Jun-27-10 03:06 AM   #44 
  - I despise revisionist history. And to a significant degree that's what your op is  cali   Jun-27-10 03:10 AM   #45 
  - It's insane, isn't it?  Hekate   Jun-27-10 03:17 AM   #46 
     - it's stupid. and, well, stupid sucks. particularly when taken to this degree  cali   Jun-27-10 03:31 AM   #47 
  - Yes...AFTER this country hit's rock bottom  PFunk   Jun-27-10 03:43 AM   #48 
  - it's incredibly, breathtakingly dumb to think  cali   Jun-27-10 03:57 AM   #50 
     - Neither is Obama..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 04:12 AM   #51 
     - lol. it's a stupid argument; a stupid comparison.  cali   Jun-27-10 04:22 AM   #53 
        - The point being that by today's standards Nixon was a flaming liberal..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 05:29 AM   #57 
           - no he wasn't.  cali   Jun-27-10 05:30 AM   #58 
           - So you think America has not moved to the right in the last thirty years?  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 05:41 AM   #59 
              - um, I said that America has moved to the right in an earlier post  cali   Jun-27-10 05:47 AM   #60 
                 - Other people have posted other FACTS about Nixon..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 05:56 AM   #61 
                    - bwahahahaaha. I did indeed respond- with the facts  cali   Jun-27-10 05:57 AM   #62 
                       - The FACTS have already been posted..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 06:05 AM   #63 
                       - Self Delete eom  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-10 09:06 AM   #78 
           - Why do we need to lurch rather than gentle steering?  treestar   Jun-27-10 09:14 AM   #80 
           - The nation is like an oil tanker headed for a reef to starboard..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 09:39 AM   #86 
           - Maybe it's because I live in the South, but I never, ever considered someone  suzie   Jun-27-10 12:00 PM   #125 
              - Like any politician, or indeed person, Nixon was a study in contradictions..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 04:43 PM   #180 
                 - Nixon was an evil psychopath who planned to overturn the 22nd amendment  suzie   Jun-27-10 06:09 PM   #187 
                    - You are hearing something that's not being said..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 06:30 PM   #190 
                       - No, you've made up some fantasy world where race-baiting and anti-semitism equals liberalism.  suzie   Jun-28-10 12:26 AM   #235 
     - You can't completely compare the politics of the 1950s-70s to now  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:22 PM   #204 
  - Pick up a history book ...  RoyGBiv   Jun-27-10 04:35 AM   #55 
  - Chew on some facts, all you rah rah Nixon folks:  cali   Jun-27-10 04:46 AM   #56 
  - I don't see anyone "Rah" ing Nixon at all. The OP was attempting to point out  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-10 09:12 AM   #79 
     - "Will we ever elect a President as Liberal as Richard Nixon again..."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 09:22 AM   #81 
     - All Presidents have accomplishments. The discussion revolves around the  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-10 09:33 AM   #84 
        - Right, and Reagan had a liberal record.  ProSense   Jun-27-10 10:14 AM   #90 
           - I hardly think  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-10 11:16 AM   #103 
           - Where the fuck did that come from? This is a comparison of POLICIES........  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:33 PM   #163 
              - Really?  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:23 PM   #205 
                 - AGAIN, nobody called Nixon a liberal. Spend some time tonight.....  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 10:15 PM   #227 
                    - "Will we ever elect a President as Liberal as Richard Nixon again..."  ProSense   Jun-28-10 12:26 AM   #236 
     - +1  paulk   Jun-27-10 10:38 AM   #91 
     - Democrats cheering Nixon is no different from Democrats cheering McCain. n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:11 AM   #100 
        - a simplistic reply  paulk   Jun-27-10 11:14 AM   #101 
           - Well said...+1  bvar22   Jun-27-10 01:12 PM   #146 
           - "to actually respond to what people say"  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:44 PM   #212 
     - ^ Exactly ^  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:32 PM   #207 
     - Because the notion that Obama is ideologically less liberal than Nixon is absurd  Hippo_Tron   Jun-27-10 10:34 PM   #229 
  - Never.  mochajava666   Jun-27-10 07:35 AM   #64 
  - the congress he had to deal with was insanely liberal by today's standards  unblock   Jun-27-10 07:51 AM   #65 
  - nixon was an abomination....put down the crack pipe  spanone   Jun-27-10 07:52 AM   #66 
  - Not until after the fall.  mmonk   Jun-27-10 07:58 AM   #67 
  - Only if progressives can be 1/2 as competent as conservatives  stray cat   Jun-27-10 08:01 AM   #68 
  - His healthcare reform was HMOs nt  IronLionZion   Jun-27-10 08:29 AM   #70 
  - Exactly.  ProSense   Jun-27-10 08:41 AM   #72 
     - My memory of Nixon was that he was far from Liberal  goclark   Jun-27-10 10:02 AM   #87 
     - Where's the federally funded single payer health care you mentioned, Prosense?  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 09:02 PM   #223 
  - It won't ever be 1972 again  treestar   Jun-27-10 08:42 AM   #73 
  - There is no reason that it can't be 1972 again....  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 10:38 AM   #92 
  - Support abortion for biracial babies!!!! nt  CBR   Jun-27-10 08:46 AM   #75 
  - I don't think it will happen in my lifetime. nt  LWolf   Jun-27-10 09:36 AM   #85 
  - and believe it or not Nixon signed legislation establishing  Citizen Worker   Jun-27-10 10:04 AM   #88 
  - the signing of legislation means very little....  tomp   Jun-27-10 11:30 AM   #107 
     - He had 43 vetos with 7 overidden 16% overidden  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 11:40 AM   #111 
        - "I am not claiming above Nixon was some progressive nirvana or a good president."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:41 AM   #113 
           - The OP is about how far right AMERICA's persepective has lurched that if  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 11:46 AM   #117 
              - Can you imagine Nixon proposing this:  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:54 AM   #122 
                 - Well Nixon was a president and saying will we ever have a country as liberal  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:02 PM   #127 
                    - "Am I saying Nixon was that voice? Good lord no..."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:12 PM   #135 
                       - The problem is that it is more than a few policies it was the vast majority...  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 06:42 PM   #191 
                          - "why does the Dept of Homeland Security still exist"  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:09 PM   #197 
  - Or even Ike.  joe black   Jun-27-10 10:41 AM   #93 
  - I don't do Richard Nixon.  saltpoint   Jun-27-10 10:41 AM   #94 
  - Jebuus  Uzybone   Jun-27-10 11:00 AM   #96 
  - This isn't really a pro-Nixon OP..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 11:22 AM   #104 
     - "Rather it's anti-Obama."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:23 AM   #105 
     - Just my opinion..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 12:09 PM   #134 
     - It's more a measure of how far to the right we've gone since then.  EFerrari   Jun-27-10 11:42 AM   #115 
        - That's true..  Fumesucker   Jun-27-10 12:06 PM   #131 
        - bingo. n/t  Soylent Brice   Jun-28-10 03:43 PM   #247 
  - not if big money has anything to say and do about it  ShamelessHussy   Jun-27-10 11:02 AM   #97 
  - Our government will get overthrown before that happens.  harun   Jun-27-10 11:09 AM   #99 
  - "Worked surprisingly tirelessly for native American rights...."  tomp   Jun-27-10 11:27 AM   #106 
  - "I would love to see Obama be a Jimmy Carter style president,,,"  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:34 AM   #108 
  - Yes! n/t  bondwooley   Jun-27-10 11:42 AM   #114 
  - Nixon's health insurance plan was to the left of Obama's, also...  amborin   Jun-27-10 11:34 AM   #109 
  - Um  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:36 AM   #110 
     - yes, really  amborin   Jun-27-10 11:43 AM   #116 
     - Saying it doesn't make it so. n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 11:51 AM   #120 
     - reading it above that was my take as well...  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 11:48 AM   #118 
     - Nice. Do the Fox "news" or Ann Coulter type of link. I'm going to...........  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:45 PM   #168 
  - it's not "we as a country" that has moved rightward.  tomp   Jun-27-10 11:52 AM   #121 
  - Well, it's true  Turbineguy   Jun-27-10 11:55 AM   #123 
  - We had a Democratic congress and Senate that acted like one, and the Fairness Doctrine  Lorien   Jun-27-10 11:58 AM   #124 
  - Exactly.. and we had people on the street and a middle class  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:04 PM   #129 
     - People in the streets don't make Nixon liberal n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:08 PM   #133 
     - Without the enviromental movement cogress and Nixon don't pass/sign all that wonderful and  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:14 PM   #136 
        - Right, so Nixon wasn't liberal. n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 12:17 PM   #137 
           - The OP isn't about Nixon the man it is about the policies passed under his watch.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 12:22 PM   #138 
              - Right on, SunnySong.  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:17 PM   #201 
     - I remember those days.  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 07:18 PM   #202 
  - This is a decent example of how far the Republican party has shifted  Lone_Star_Dem   Jun-27-10 12:07 PM   #132 
  - Nixon devoted more Federal funding to cancer reasearch than any of his predecessors!  DailyGrind51   Jun-27-10 12:25 PM   #139 
  - Nixon gave the green light to Kaiser HMOs. "Less medical care. More profit"  keepCAblue   Jun-27-10 12:53 PM   #142 
  - self-deleted. duplicate. n/t  keepCAblue   Jun-27-10 01:01 PM   #143 
  - Yeah, right. And imagine if Nixon-Bush-Dulles hadn't assassinated RFK, what might have been. n/t  keepCAblue   Jun-27-10 01:02 PM   #144 
  - Sad but true.  Crunchy Frog   Jun-27-10 01:13 PM   #147 
  - Started the EPA, block grants to states. Yep, quite a "liberal" by............  pattmarty   Jun-27-10 02:03 PM   #152 
  - Started the DEA. not very liberal. n/t  garybeck   Jun-27-10 02:08 PM   #156 
  - If we should hate nixon for just one thing...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-27-10 02:11 PM   #157 
  - Chomsky on Nixon - "Richard Nixonin many respects the last liberal president"  Catherina   Jun-27-10 02:41 PM   #166 
  - Hunter Thompson on Nixon: HE WAS A CROOK  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:13 PM   #200 
     - HST on Nixon in 2003: "I miss Nixon. Compared to these Nazis we have in the White House now,  scarletwoman   Jun-27-10 10:51 PM   #231 
        - Nazis  ProSense   Jun-27-10 10:57 PM   #232 
  - Aside from his environmentalist leanings, Nixon was a Bush Crime Family fascist tool from the start  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-27-10 02:44 PM   #167 
  - Nixon was responsible for unleashing the health insurance industry on all of us  earth mom   Jun-27-10 02:47 PM   #169 
  - I guess I won't make the mistake of directly quoting Richard Nixon again  KonaKane   Jun-27-10 02:54 PM   #171 
  - Wow - the last Repub pres who actually wanted to govern. n/t  Beartracks   Jun-27-10 03:18 PM   #173 
  - Not Until We Break The Grip Of The Corporate State.  colsohlibgal   Jun-27-10 03:44 PM   #177 
  - We should rename Democratic Underground to Nixon Underground in his liberal honor.  Major Hogwash   Jun-27-10 03:59 PM   #179 
  - ROFL  dionysus   Jun-27-10 07:02 PM   #194 
  - Nixon 2012.  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:10 PM   #199 
     - How about we just re-elected the head?  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 07:19 PM   #203 
        - Hey, Nixon is your guy.  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:24 PM   #206 
           - Only in a cartoon fantasy world.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 07:32 PM   #208 
           - "I do wish we could start to go back to policies that are for people and not corporations."  ProSense   Jun-27-10 07:33 PM   #209 
              - No we are talking about things like unions,  TBF   Jun-28-10 02:42 PM   #242 
           - "Nixon is your guy" - malicious misrepresentation.  inna   Jun-27-10 10:40 PM   #230 
           - You've made that quite clear,  TBF   Jun-28-10 02:43 PM   #243 
  - You forgot Methadone Clinics.  RagAss   Jun-27-10 07:35 PM   #210 
  - So you are idolizing a man who was a crook and a liar  RFKHumphreyObama   Jun-27-10 07:51 PM   #215 
  - But he gave us HMOs. What's not to love? n/t  ProSense   Jun-27-10 08:00 PM   #217 
     - Ted Kennedy always regretted not making that deal.  SunnySong   Jun-27-10 08:11 PM   #218 
        - "Read Nixon's plan and honestly tell me The United States was better off without it." It didn't pass  ProSense   Jun-27-10 08:42 PM   #219 
        - That is better than what we got this year, alas.  Mimosa   Jun-27-10 09:05 PM   #224 
  - Nixon did all he could at the time to create this disaster we're living thru now --  defendandprotect   Jun-27-10 08:43 PM   #220 
  - and kept some kick ass recordings....  PatrynXX   Jun-27-10 08:54 PM   #221 
  - If your meme is to go after Obama as they did Nixon  Hutzpa   Jun-27-10 08:59 PM   #222 
  - Nixon was a piece of garbage that ended his own career, by his own paranoid brain.  Rex   Jun-27-10 11:01 PM   #233 
  - The one thing I hate most about Nixon was he starting the privitzation of healthcare to form HMOs!  1776Forever   Jun-28-10 12:07 AM   #234 
  - Sounds a lot like this book: SILENT COUP THE REMOVAL OF A PRESIDENT  1monster   Jun-28-10 12:40 AM   #237 
  - Ask Salvador Allende or the Frente Amplio for starters.  retread   Jun-28-10 07:12 AM   #239 
  - Since when is $85.6B less than $76.6B?  Heywood J   Jun-28-10 03:28 PM   #246 
  - Here's what Nixon really did:  MajorChode   Jun-28-10 04:03 PM   #248 
  - "Taxed the rich more than the poor"  MajorChode   Jun-28-10 04:11 PM   #249 
     - 1971-1981 15 brackets 14% to 70%  SunnySong   Jun-28-10 04:15 PM   #250 
        - Certainly there is no reason, however...  MajorChode   Jun-28-10 08:58 PM   #252 
           - True that,,, nt  SunnySong   Jun-28-10 10:23 PM   #253 

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