William Z. Foster
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Sat Jun-26-10 08:33 PM
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I would be complaining about the same things regardless of who were president. Of course. Who wouldn't, and why wouldn't they?
Who is talking about giving up? Giving up on failing ideas is the opposite of giving up on the struggle. The choice may be do we give up on ourselves and each other and our principles, or do we give up on certain politicians?
Amazing that people who sold a candidate as radically different than the other choices, and so different then what we had in the past, are now defending the same politician with the opposite argument. Strange that people who talked hope and change before the election are now ridiculing those who want change and trying to crush people's hopes. I don't think there has ever been a shift like this ever in American political history.
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| -After much soul searching I have decided I have to change my Avatar back... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-26-10 02:45 PM |
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Push harder by changing your avatar? |
frazzled |
Jun-26-10 02:49 PM |
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It means something to me |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-26-10 02:54 PM |
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Symbolic action and $1.75 .... |
frazzled |
Jun-26-10 03:23 PM |
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Maybe you missed that whole part where symbolic action is the basis for human society. |
EFerrari |
Jun-26-10 03:27 PM |
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I hope thats sarcasm |
Vincent441 |
Jun-27-10 10:52 AM |
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Sadly, I don't think it was intended as such. n/t |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 01:16 PM |
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So, what other animals manipulate symbols? |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 03:07 PM |
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If that was the type of symbolism at issue here, you would have a point. |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 06:11 PM |
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Fail. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 06:19 PM |
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Um, touche, I guess? |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 06:21 PM |
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Sarcasm? LOL |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 03:04 PM |
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it is doing far more than that |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:26 PM |
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So are you saying that Sarah Palin is powerful and effective? |
Common Sense Party |
Jun-27-10 01:11 AM |
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of course Palin is powerful and effective |
mdmc |
Jun-27-10 10:21 AM |
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yes |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 06:37 PM |
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self-delete |
iris27 |
Jun-27-10 01:20 PM |
#112 |
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Yeah |
Robert DAH Bruce |
Jun-27-10 09:22 AM |
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feel free to do something more chum |
mdmc |
Jun-27-10 10:19 AM |
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Undo criticism and snark |
demwing |
Jun-27-10 12:14 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-26-10 03:39 PM |
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That is all that matters.... |
WCGreen |
Jun-27-10 11:31 AM |
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. |
dionysus |
Jun-26-10 03:07 PM |
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it communicates |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:22 PM |
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you are right |
Beringia |
Jun-27-10 09:59 PM |
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Have you ever noticed how whenever someone says: "I don't mean to sound cynical..." |
DeSwiss |
Jun-27-10 12:42 PM |
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I didn't read anywhere in her post |
hippywife |
Jun-27-10 01:25 PM |
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I agree... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jun-26-10 02:50 PM |
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Here's a K&R for the symbolism and hope for better. n/t |
Greyhound |
Jun-26-10 02:52 PM |
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After much soul searching, I totally regret lifting a finger |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 02:56 PM |
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shit |
The Hitman |
Jun-26-10 03:02 PM |
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Only in your simplistic world. But I'll say it out loud right now |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 03:06 PM |
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You may want to consider if you are being manipulated by the media |
rufus dog |
Jun-26-10 03:14 PM |
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The thing with Hillary is that she wasn't selling any hope |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 08:23 PM |
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LOL! |
Whisp |
Jun-27-10 01:30 AM |
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"Selling hope". |
Arkana |
Jun-27-10 10:06 PM |
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Had Hillary been elected, you'd be complaining about the same |
MineralMan |
Jun-26-10 03:36 PM |
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I would, yes |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:33 PM |
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I wouldn't. |
hfojvt |
Jun-27-10 02:08 PM |
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of course |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 06:41 PM |
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We haven't had a filibuster yet |
jeanpalmer |
Jun-26-10 08:56 PM |
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That's why I put it in quotation marks. The problem is that |
MineralMan |
Jun-27-10 08:23 AM |
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+1 |
havocmom |
Jun-27-10 11:30 AM |
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Judging from the way State is being run, it's doubtful. |
EFerrari |
Jun-26-10 03:37 PM |
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Very true but her colors were up front. We knew during the primaries |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 08:32 PM |
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You know, in my little part of the world, the mood of the nation was not to |
suzie |
Jun-27-10 09:42 AM |
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Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.....soo useless. |
Lilyeye |
Jun-26-10 04:09 PM |
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Pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
The Hitman |
Jun-26-10 04:32 PM |
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And why do you think it's the best we can get? And how long |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-27-10 12:15 AM |
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no it isn't |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 06:43 PM |
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ah, so it finally comes out. |
dionysus |
Jun-26-10 08:19 PM |
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I supported Hillary because she truly cares about people. |
Beacool |
Jun-27-10 12:48 AM |
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Hillary's and Obama's voting records were virtually identical. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jun-27-10 01:38 AM |
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Uh, there's a reason we all supported Obama; because he was our best chance at winning. |
Dawgs |
Jun-27-10 12:48 PM |
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More importantly... |
snake in the grass |
Jun-27-10 04:28 PM |
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those are not the choices |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:28 PM |
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Would not have been betterr |
jeanpalmer |
Jun-26-10 08:43 PM |
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I am so sick of this statement |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-27-10 11:49 AM |
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Reasonable reasons to put this avatar back on one's page. |
midnight |
Jun-27-10 11:02 AM |
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15 months didn't change everything? |
BeatleBoot |
Jun-26-10 02:57 PM |
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It's nice to see someone enjoy their own strawman so much. nt |
EFerrari |
Jun-26-10 02:58 PM |
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Snap! |
Nikki Stone1 |
Jun-26-10 05:35 PM |
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nah it was just a fluff... |
SunsetDreams |
Jun-27-10 01:23 AM |
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Nah! I'm just a realist. |
BeatleBoot |
Jun-26-10 05:55 PM |
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now |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:47 PM |
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LOL, where would he be |
jeanpalmer |
Jun-26-10 09:01 PM |
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Yes, yes, where would one be.... |
BeatleBoot |
Jun-27-10 09:02 PM |
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Then try paying attention to this |
SargeUNN |
Jun-26-10 03:02 PM |
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Oh, snap! |
babylonsister |
Jun-26-10 03:09 PM |
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sorry, I've been busy paying attention to this... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-26-10 03:17 PM |
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why not look at |
SargeUNN |
Jun-26-10 03:27 PM |
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What i'm feeling is so much bigger than politics. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-27-10 01:01 PM |
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That's a very nice list if you are looking for something to feel good about. |
EFerrari |
Jun-26-10 03:23 PM |
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There is our problem |
SargeUNN |
Jun-26-10 03:44 PM |
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If that's what you got out of my post, our problem is bad reading. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 04:43 PM |
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So now Rachel Maddow is lying for money? lol. nt |
sufrommich |
Jun-27-10 08:34 AM |
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It's not lying, it's shading. That piece was a celebration |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 04:42 PM |
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Wow! America is on the GROW! |
mdmc |
Jun-27-10 10:24 AM |
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I think you're right to make symbolic change |
lunatica |
Jun-26-10 03:03 PM |
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I watched Mr. Smith goes to Washington this morning. |
midnight |
Jun-26-10 03:03 PM |
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Possibly the most destructive film ever made. |
Greyhound |
Jun-27-10 01:53 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jun-27-10 02:06 AM |
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actually I like the movie. "Bullworth." |
newspeak |
Jun-27-10 12:57 PM |
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I Still Have No Avatar |
zorahopkins |
Jun-26-10 03:12 PM |
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What I expected in 15 months was 15 months of change |
Goldstein1984 |
Jun-26-10 03:13 PM |
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what you call this? |
SargeUNN |
Jun-26-10 03:17 PM |
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Jun-26-10 03:32 PM |
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I'm astounded you even need to explain that |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 08:36 PM |
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The lies continue |
Goldstein1984 |
Jun-26-10 10:38 PM |
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Wow! Clicking on this OP was a waste of my time. |
Dawgs |
Jun-27-10 12:52 PM |
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You certainly aren't alone |
Nite Owl |
Jun-26-10 03:26 PM |
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Whooooaaaa. Intense dude. Intense. |
geckosfeet |
Jun-26-10 04:03 PM |
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Principle over Party. I admire you. n/t |
Laelth |
Jun-26-10 04:07 PM |
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I'm sad to say I agree with your sentiment |
Hydra |
Jun-26-10 04:24 PM |
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Are you trying to imply that Obama |
Texasgal |
Jun-26-10 08:43 PM |
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um, promoting offshore drilling, no regulations, MMS corrupt/inefficient ... |
ima_sinnic |
Jun-26-10 10:18 PM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jun-27-10 12:32 PM |
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Wise choice, very appropriate. nt |
Raine |
Jun-26-10 05:12 PM |
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That seems appropriate. |
LWolf |
Jun-26-10 05:26 PM |
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"I don't really know what symbolizes where I'm at these days. " |
Moochy |
Jun-27-10 11:37 AM |
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Give me LIBERTY or give me back my old AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 |
apocalypsehow |
Jun-26-10 06:03 PM |
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What I don't understand is, people will claim they would die for this country |
Mithreal |
Jun-26-10 06:34 PM |
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I hear ya. Did the same thing myself a few days ago. |
mochajava666 |
Jun-26-10 06:46 PM |
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We're all going to die |
HughMoran |
Jun-26-10 08:21 PM |
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many are dying |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-26-10 08:50 PM |
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What?? |
HughMoran |
Jun-26-10 09:29 PM |
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methinks you doth protest too much |
ima_sinnic |
Jun-26-10 10:22 PM |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Jun-26-10 10:57 PM |
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I'm talking about your response to the OP's obvious pain |
ima_sinnic |
Jun-26-10 11:32 PM |
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Whoever that is. just put them on ignore to keep your blood pressure down |
Catherina |
Jun-26-10 10:34 PM |
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Yes, changing one's avatar based on pessimism is really compassionate |
HughMoran |
Jun-26-10 10:52 PM |
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people are always dying |
northzax |
Jun-27-10 10:03 AM |
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I think you are right! |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 06:34 PM |
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Hmmmmmm..... |
apocalypsehow |
Jun-28-10 01:33 AM |
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As a matter of fact, yes. So why not live in the meantime? Take a chance on making change happen? |
havocmom |
Jun-27-10 11:34 AM |
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There was no call for |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-27-10 01:01 PM |
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k*r!!! |
autorank |
Jun-26-10 11:34 PM |
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you are such a revolutionary |
JI7 |
Jun-27-10 01:33 AM |
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I think we have passed a threshold |
William Z. Foster |
Jun-27-10 06:48 PM |
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Jun-27-10 02:15 AM |
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An OP because you changed your avatar? Really? nt |
sufrommich |
Jun-27-10 08:29 AM |
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Yes, really. Just like the one I posted when I joined, and when I changed it in 2008... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-27-10 01:10 PM |
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Sounds like you've really been through some tough times with this avatar change. |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 01:12 PM |
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You have truly captured the ridiculousness of this OP in one beautiful post |
Number23 |
Jun-28-10 08:53 PM |
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Throughout the run-up to the election |
austin78704 |
Jun-27-10 09:46 AM |
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No, doing so was still a boneheaded move. |
Sugarcoated |
Jun-27-10 09:48 AM |
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Really? Why? |
austin78704 |
Jun-27-10 04:20 PM |
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If you can't tell the difference between a Republican and Democratic administration there is no |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-27-10 04:49 PM |
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That's a gorgeous example of one of the worst |
austin78704 |
Jun-27-10 06:33 PM |
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You wanted to know why people told you voting third party was throwing yhour vote away |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-28-10 01:21 AM |
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You're right |
austin78704 |
Jun-28-10 08:18 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Jun-27-10 10:09 AM |
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You are...so very, very brave. |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 11:08 AM |
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the cross might be too much to bear |
Uzybone |
Jun-27-10 12:15 PM |
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If self-important drama could be turned into an alternative fuel, |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 01:11 PM |
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... |
Whisp |
Jun-27-10 01:23 PM |
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Purposeless anti-social behavior would be a better bet. |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 03:09 PM |
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Mocking self-important nonsense is never purposeless. n/t |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 06:17 PM |
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I think she's still out there in the hallway. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jun-27-10 06:20 PM |
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Purple monkey dishwasher. n/t |
Raskolnik |
Jun-27-10 06:22 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Jun-27-10 11:32 AM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Jun-27-10 12:48 PM |
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I can imagine this didin't come easily for you, and that is sad. |
bobbolink |
Jun-27-10 12:53 PM |
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one is enough, thank you. |
bobbolink |
Jun-27-10 12:53 PM |
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you are right |
Whisp |
Jun-27-10 01:33 PM |
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As well you should have because nothing has changed. In fact, it's gotten worse. |
earth mom |
Jun-27-10 04:38 PM |
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how's it going? I didn't know you changed it |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Jun-27-10 06:23 PM |
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Hi! |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jun-27-10 06:33 PM |
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Don't blame you a bit ... |
gleaner |
Jun-27-10 06:50 PM |
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Hard to believe some of reactions in this thread. Unconscionable. |
inna |
Jun-28-10 09:22 PM |
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