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34. Can it be possible that you haven't noticed your line of thinking is now invalid?
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 05:15 PM by tom_paine
Honestly, where have you been this past decade?

My mind's all a jumble, what with the literally hundreds of examples to choose from since the 1996 Telecommunications Act pretty much finished off the American Free Press that was the envy of the world. So much to choose from, where to start?

Example #1: post 9/11 air quality - The Bush EPA told everyone the NYC air was safe. Thousands of rescue workers rushed in patriotically to do their duty for the nation and it's people. Now many of them are experiencing lung troubles and many more have died. The funny thing is, not only was it a verifiable, demonstrable lie, but independant testing by universities and clean air organizations did in fact debunk the lie almost immediately. Oddly enough, the Corporate M$M did not "bust the cover up".

Example #2: Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction - 200 tons of anthrax, 500 liters of botulinum toxin, and nuclear materials; so non-present that Saddam even said he'd let the UN inspectors in - Bush refused and went to war. Hell, the Corporate M$M was so not interested and so ignored the various stories contrary to the Corporate Oligarchy's Desired False Narrative that I DARE you to find a single person who remembers that Saddam offered to let the inspectors back in before we invaded. Go ahead & try.

Here's one more recent: Example #3 - The phony ACORN video. Gosh, the Corporate M$M sure leapt forward to debunk that one, didn't they? The video was heavily edited, as anyone could see upon examination. Later, the young lady who played the "hooker" confessed at last year's CPAC that the whole thing was a setup. ACORN has since been exonerated by various law enforcement agencies of wrongdoing. Gosh, Corporate M$M sure fell all over themselves getting the truth out, didn't they?

I could go on and on and on like this. As I said, I have literally HUNDREDS to choose from, so bad for so long has our Corporatized Media been.

I tell you this only because you are harboring a dangerous delusion that simply no longer applies in this nation: That the truth will come out because a Free, Vigorous and Independant Press will ferret it out and make large-scale cover-ups impossible.

That is so completely and thoroughly untrue, it's laughable. Like saying the same thing in the middle of 1975 Communist Russia. Further, harboring such a false idea makes it impossible for you to track the rapidly increasing decline and fall of our nation, simply because you assume so many things cannot be because "the media would have uncovered the coverup".

Unfortunately, as long as you continue to labor under such an increasingly false and even laughable assumption, you will constantly be surprised by events.

You last line is correct regarding her credibility (though some Googling might help you verify it, if you wish), it's true, but the concept that "if it happened the Corporate M$M would let us know" is absurd and ludicrous in the EXTREME.

Might I suggest you update your conceptual thinking from the old days.

These are the new days, and American Media is far closer to 1970s era Soviet-media than I ever thought possible (but with hotter anchor-guys & gals).
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  - I just read this comment  happy_liberal   Jun-24-10 12:06 PM   #10 
  - I don't blame  femrap   Jun-24-10 03:52 PM   #23 
  - Well, fewer numbers of serfs  LiberalEsto   Jun-24-10 04:50 PM   #33 
  - Wow. Great info! Right on also. Just "wow".  glinda   Jun-24-10 08:38 PM   #39 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-24-10 12:08 PM   #11 
  - Please K&R  happy_liberal   Jun-24-10 12:08 PM   #12 
  - K&R  nonconformist   Jun-24-10 12:55 PM   #13 
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  - recommend  TexasObserver   Jun-24-10 01:50 PM   #16 
  - K&R  pinstikfartherin   Jun-24-10 01:53 PM   #18 
  - K&R  me b zola   Jun-24-10 02:01 PM   #19 
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  - Makes a lot of sense  Mimosa   Jun-25-10 04:55 PM   #76 
  - Probably not.  DeltaLitProf   Jun-24-10 04:41 PM   #29 
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  - +1 Swampy  Blue_In_AK   Jun-24-10 04:45 PM   #32 
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     - and you think that it was?  William Z. Foster   Jun-25-10 01:33 AM   #63 
        - Uh, big media was INSTRUMENTAL in stopping that war  HEyHEY   Jun-25-10 02:08 AM   #66 
        - Yes, I think the Vietnam war was covered by the media.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-25-10 03:56 AM   #69 
           - odd  William Z. Foster   Jun-25-10 02:56 PM   #74 
              - You mean the Pentagon Papers covered by the New York Times?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-25-10 04:47 PM   #75 
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                    - Late in the Vietnam War, that is.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-25-10 05:22 PM   #80 
                       - no idea  William Z. Foster   Jun-25-10 05:26 PM   #81 
  - Can it be possible that you haven't noticed your line of thinking is now invalid?  tom_paine   Jun-24-10 05:11 PM   #34 
  - +10000000  nashville_brook   Jun-24-10 09:02 PM   #45 
  - Okay, and it's also possible to find examples where MSM did do their job  HEyHEY   Jun-25-10 02:10 AM   #67 
     - Two things : the Palast example proves my point & consider the logic of the various assertions  tom_paine   Jun-25-10 09:11 AM   #71 
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  - I agree  Johonny   Jun-24-10 07:37 PM   #38 
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  - I used to think that  William Z. Foster   Jun-25-10 01:28 AM   #62 
     - No. Reexamine yours.  DeltaLitProf   Jun-25-10 04:30 AM   #70 
        - what?  William Z. Foster   Jun-26-10 12:19 AM   #82 
  - K & R  AzDar   Jun-24-10 08:43 PM   #42 
  - Horrible  MissDeeds   Jun-24-10 08:51 PM   #44 
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  - I think your right  lovuian   Jun-24-10 11:12 PM   #57 
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     - The West Coast maybe  MadMaddie   Jun-25-10 09:15 AM   #72 
  - kick and recommend  tomm2thumbs   Jun-25-10 01:43 AM   #64 
  - Just checking to see if anyone's verified that Exxon killed the cleanup crew.  tranche   Jun-25-10 10:39 AM   #73 
  - "Video removed by user" n/t  Barrett808   Jun-25-10 04:58 PM   #77 
     - They've gotten to him.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jun-25-10 04:59 PM   #78 

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