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15. Unless things have changed, as long as the uniform is
worn 'complete' - correct shoes/boots, shirt, trousers and headgear (outside) - there is nothing improper in what he is wearing. It's not a dress uniform, but it's not an improper uniform nor disrespectful. In essence, it is the military equivalent of the President's outfit - business casual.
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  -Military people here: would you wear combat gear to meet with the President hedgehog  Jun-22-10 02:00 PM   #0 
  - I'm not in any way military but I think military personnel going to the WH  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:03 PM   #1 
  - Yup He should have been in dress uniform.  Ganja Ninja   Jun-22-10 02:10 PM   #14 
  - Maybe he did it for a reason.  AsahinaKimi   Jun-22-10 04:49 PM   #77 
  - Would you wear only briefs and a guitar.  damntexdem   Jun-22-10 02:27 PM   #35 
     - Dress greens, flip flops and a light coat of oil  MattBaggins   Jun-23-10 08:55 AM   #97 
  - If I'm actually actively serving in combat, absolutely  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 02:03 PM   #2 
  - It's like showing up in a pair of overalls if you're a mechanic or a farmer...  rfranklin   Jun-22-10 02:05 PM   #5 
  - this is his uniform-of-the-day - so completely appropriate  DrDan   Jun-22-10 02:08 PM   #9 
  - Absolutely!  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 02:16 PM   #26 
  - I guess as former military, I see it as the opposite  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 02:16 PM   #24 
     - I guess that's what got my hackles up - I saw the message not as  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:37 PM   #47 
     - I would think anyone, military or otherwise...  JuniperLea   Jun-22-10 03:08 PM   #60 
        - When you're a combat troop and it's the uniform of the day, it's appropriate  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 03:57 PM   #67 
           - I was a lowly enlisted man but we were not allowed to wear fatigues off base.  Winterblues   Jun-22-10 04:40 PM   #73 
              - I'm pretty sure you can these days  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 04:44 PM   #76 
              - We also couldn't wear flight suits off base. However,  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 06:21 PM   #81 
  - Would you show up as a General in a combat uniform or dress uniform at the White House?  Better Believe It   Jun-22-10 06:36 PM   #86 
     - That depends....  av8rdave   Jun-23-10 12:12 PM   #99 
  - Absolutely! n/t  jody   Jun-22-10 02:04 PM   #3 
  - Gosh, I wouldn't consider that combat gear.  noamnety   Jun-22-10 02:05 PM   #4 
  - A plant store isn't on a par with the White House and meeting with your Commander in Chief.  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:10 PM   #16 
     - It just looks normal to me.  noamnety   Jun-22-10 02:26 PM   #31 
        - In those photos, absolutely. I was just thinking about the White House  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:28 PM   #37 
  - McChrystal is the second coming of Ollie North.  TexasObserver   Jun-22-10 02:07 PM   #6 
  - yes - it is appropriate and allowed  DrDan   Jun-22-10 02:07 PM   #7 
  - I don't know about military protocol, but it seems that dress is for formal  Cleita   Jun-22-10 02:08 PM   #8 
  - I once had a neighbor (in Fairfax County, VA) who was a Navy captain and worked  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:15 PM   #23 
     - Although one of my childhood homes was in an AFB town in Southern  Cleita   Jun-22-10 02:30 PM   #41 
  - Military members wear the "Uniform of the Day",  dgibby   Jun-22-10 02:08 PM   #10 
  - So, you're saying, when he meets with other important people...  JuniperLea   Jun-22-10 02:15 PM   #22 
     - He is required to wear the Uniform of the Day,  dgibby   Jun-22-10 03:30 PM   #63 
     - No, he's saying that in the military you wear what you are told to wear NT  Travis Coates   Jun-23-10 09:05 AM   #98 
  - Not in the military any more  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 02:08 PM   #11 
  - It's not combat gear - it's his standard uniform. It isn't disrespectful.  Solly Mack   Jun-22-10 02:09 PM   #12 
  - Exactly....not to mention that a combat soldier in combat gear deserves respect as well!  av8rdave   Jun-22-10 02:17 PM   #28 
  - I really thought they had rules on this stuff  zipplewrath   Jun-22-10 02:09 PM   #13 
  - Unless things have changed, as long as the uniform is  enlightenment   Jun-22-10 02:10 PM   #15 
  - I was thrown by the boots and camo - but white shirt and tie  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:28 PM   #36 
  - If memory serves me right, this was not the Oval Office. It was Air Force one. nt  jezebel   Jun-22-10 02:10 PM   #17 
  - IF that's the case, his dress is completely appropriate n/t  WeDidIt   Jun-22-10 02:11 PM   #19 
  - Your memory serves right.  Barack_America   Jun-22-10 02:16 PM   #25 
  - Outstanding catch "Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal met with Obama for about 25 minutes aboard Air Force  jody   Jun-22-10 02:17 PM   #27 
  - My mistake - i saw the fancy yellow rug and thought it was the Oval Office.  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:29 PM   #39 
  - If I were meeting with the president in the White House, I'd wear a Class A uniform  WeDidIt   Jun-22-10 02:10 PM   #18 
  - Such a bullshit move...  JuniperLea   Jun-22-10 02:13 PM   #20 
  - The meeting was at the White House? I thought it was on AF 1  leftofcool   Jun-22-10 02:30 PM   #40 
     - In the Oval Office...  JuniperLea   Jun-22-10 03:10 PM   #61 
        - Google Oval Office carpet and see what's missing  Brother Buzz   Jun-22-10 03:55 PM   #66 
  - His uniform is appropriate.  hack89   Jun-22-10 02:15 PM   #21 
  - Totally appropriate. The man is a combat soldier not a REMF n/t  Catherina   Jun-22-10 02:17 PM   #29 
  - Be nice now, sometimes REMFs get to be commanders or even commanders in chief. n/t  jody   Jun-22-10 02:24 PM   #30 
  - Touche. n/t  Catherina   Jun-22-10 02:26 PM   #32 
  - On the other hand, I don't think Copenhagen is a center of combat operations!  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:31 PM   #43 
     - What are the circumstances behind the meeting? Was McChrystal summoned unexpectedly to meet Obama  jody   Jun-22-10 02:37 PM   #48 
        - Wasn't he summoned after some remarks he made?  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:51 PM   #56 
           - Don't know but the article I cited in this thread said McChrystal was returning from a meeting with  jody   Jun-22-10 02:53 PM   #57 
              - Yes. McChrystal spoke out of turn, was summoned for "smackdown"  pinboy3niner   Jun-22-10 03:36 PM   #64 
  - Would you wear only bikini briefs and a guitar.  damntexdem   Jun-22-10 02:26 PM   #33 
  - I thought class A was required for visiting the White House.  asdjrocky   Jun-22-10 02:26 PM   #34 
  - I think it's Air Force One  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 02:28 PM   #38 
     - What do the AF officers who fly AF One wear?  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:32 PM   # 
     - I'm pretty sure they wear standard issue flight suits.  Llewlladdwr   Jun-22-10 02:38 PM   #50 
        - Since they're on the job, that would make sense.  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:40 PM   #52 
        - Just saw one I googled. They wear a collared shirt with a tie and over it  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:44 PM   #53 
     - It's Air Force One, picture below in Copenhagen  jody   Jun-22-10 02:32 PM   #44 
  - Not combat gear, not the Oval Office.  proteus_lives   Jun-22-10 02:31 PM   #42 
  - I didn't know either- I was looking at the camo gera and combat boots as opposed to  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:33 PM   #45 
     - Turns out he does get dressed up for White house visits:  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:35 PM   #46 
  - This is a combat uniform ....  Statistical   Jun-22-10 02:37 PM   #49 
  - I stand corrected.  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 02:39 PM   #51 
     - Why in Europe? I get it about Afghanistan but just wondering about Europe.  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:46 PM   #54 
        - Uniform of the day is set by the command.  Statistical   Jun-22-10 02:49 PM   #55 
        - Thanks...what you learn on DU!  CTyankee   Jun-22-10 02:53 PM   #58 
        - Yes  Gaedel   Jun-22-10 03:15 PM   #62 
           - Was it awhile ago that you were in?  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 03:47 PM   #65 
              - 1961  Gaedel   Jun-22-10 04:05 PM   #68 
        - Even in bases across the US  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 03:01 PM   #59 
  - It depends....  Lagomorph   Jun-22-10 04:12 PM   #69 
  - Not in the military myself, but it seems fine to me.  Forkboy   Jun-22-10 04:12 PM   #70 
  - That sums up my thoughts pretty well.  noamnety   Jun-22-10 04:37 PM   #71 
     - Superb point!  Forkboy   Jun-22-10 04:38 PM   #72 
     - I couldn't agree more  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 04:40 PM   #74 
     - Part of the function of a uniform is to convey a message about the  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 05:47 PM   #79 
        - But it's not anywhere near as appalling  noamnety   Jun-22-10 06:20 PM   #80 
           - i see what you're saying. I think the disrespect is a symptom  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 06:29 PM   #84 
              - What disrespect? Several posters here mention that's simply the day's required uniform  Posteritatis   Jun-22-10 06:34 PM   #85 
                 - I was referring to the disrespect described in the Rolling Stone article.  hedgehog   Jun-22-10 06:48 PM   #88 
                    - Whoops; fair enough.  Posteritatis   Jun-22-10 06:51 PM   #89 
  - I think dress uniforms are strickly for formal occasions aren't they?  lunatica   Jun-22-10 04:43 PM   #75 
  - No. They are actually worn every day or every week by many military personnel.  TwilightGardener   Jun-22-10 06:58 PM   #91 
  - After 9-11 a General Order was promulgated designating the  Old Troop   Jun-22-10 04:55 PM   #78 
  - I have no issue  bigwillq   Jun-22-10 06:23 PM   #82 
  - Of all the misinterpreted nonissues to rage about.. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jun-22-10 06:27 PM   #83 
  - Dress Uniform!  oldlib   Jun-22-10 06:41 PM   #87 
  - I'm not sure what the rules are  JonLP24   Jun-22-10 07:01 PM   #92 
     - Dress Uniforms.  oldlib   Jun-22-10 08:33 PM   #95 
        - We were allowed to do that as well  JonLP24   Jun-23-10 08:52 AM   #96 
  - If he had been respectful to the President and staff, I could overlook this--  TwilightGardener   Jun-22-10 06:54 PM   #90 
  - Nossir! I'd wear Class A uniform.  trof   Jun-22-10 07:03 PM   #93 
  - if i am a military lifer  SwampG8r   Jun-22-10 07:12 PM   #94 
  - You people throwing out the Uniform of the Day tripe  MyNameGoesHere   Jun-23-10 12:26 PM   #100 

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