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Mon Jun-21-10 11:45 AM
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| 24. Or they could go to a male strip club, really pissing off the men |
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Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 11:45 AM by Oregone
In but a few days, they will be welcomed.
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| -D.C. police will no longer intervene to remove women from mosques. |
woo me with science |
Jun-21-10 11:11 AM |
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As much as I disagree with gender discrimination in mosques, I'd expect the same |
no_hypocrisy |
Jun-21-10 11:14 AM |
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"By "they" I assume you mean "men" |
theHandpuppet |
Jun-22-10 05:43 AM |
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Very interesting, from all sides. I have to say I like this move. |
Brickbat |
Jun-21-10 11:14 AM |
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The Cato Institute is in favor of government intervention in private disputes.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-21-10 11:17 AM |
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Ensuring women's secondary status, makes sense when you look at it that way. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 11:21 AM |
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I was being sardonic.. Hence the eyeroll.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-21-10 11:26 AM |
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And I was echoing your sardonic and amplifying it. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 11:31 AM |
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Remember how all |
femrap |
Jun-21-10 12:06 PM |
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Oh yes - another old feminist here and I remember it very well. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 02:12 PM |
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Government's only function to them is to preserve private property rights |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:28 AM |
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The new D.C. policy is correct. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 11:18 AM |
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Fascinating story. I hadn't heard about this before today. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 11:24 AM |
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"If you don't want a trespasser on your lawn ... you do rely on the police, ultimately, to eject..." |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:25 AM |
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Is a tax-exempt institution "private property"? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-21-10 11:28 AM |
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Is it public property? |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:33 AM |
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Separation of church and state says yes. |
JVS |
Jun-21-10 12:56 PM |
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My thoughts too |
NoNothing |
Jun-21-10 11:42 AM |
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That would be assault and battery. That is a totally different matter |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 01:41 PM |
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It's not a separate matter |
NoNothing |
Jun-21-10 01:54 PM |
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You're equating women trying to be equal to men, to an "obnoxious guest"? |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 02:09 PM |
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"Obnoxious" is in the eyes of the beholder |
NoNothing |
Jun-21-10 02:29 PM |
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Uh, you are actually defending your use of the word "obnoxious" re: the women protesters. Ooookay. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 02:59 PM |
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It is my understanding that mosques have seperate |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-21-10 12:08 PM |
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And so do restaurants. They have a place for customers, and a place for cooks |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 12:21 PM |
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Apples and Oranges |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-21-10 12:45 PM |
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That is completely different. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 01:43 PM |
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Depends on the restaurant's policies |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 01:49 PM |
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I did not understand that the women were trespassing. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 01:39 PM |
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Not trespassing. |
Dogtown |
Jun-22-10 05:41 AM |
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Is it separation of church and state? |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jun-21-10 11:27 AM |
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You realize that church weddings, funerals, and services are OPEN TO ALL? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-21-10 11:29 AM |
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I believe churches, temples and mosques should pay TAXES |
Lance_Boyle |
Jun-21-10 11:29 AM |
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"The issue will sort itself out after much protest and many arrests." |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:30 AM |
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But the women aren't trespassers. They are members. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 11:33 AM |
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Under the law you either have a legal right to be on the property, a quest, an Invitee or a trespass |
happyslug |
Jun-22-10 08:31 AM |
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation. Lots to think about. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-22-10 11:02 AM |
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The Police exist to keep the peace NOT enforce the law |
happyslug |
Jun-22-10 05:15 PM |
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I'm not a lawyer. Can you answer my questions in something like English? Many thanks!nt |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-23-10 10:41 PM |
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You are correct about communion. There have been many cases |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 11:36 AM |
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"how violent will the dispute get" |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:57 AM |
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"Religion is insane" |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 02:06 PM |
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"laying their hands on"... I'm sure the police would respond to battery, yes? |
fishbulb703 |
Jun-22-10 02:31 PM |
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I always like your insightful posts |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-21-10 12:11 PM |
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Thank you. I do expect to see changes in the structure of the Catholic Church, |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 12:17 PM |
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I would think that would be a good thing |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-21-10 12:46 PM |
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Depends on the church. |
Gaedel |
Jun-21-10 07:28 PM |
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Not really. It's a property issue. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jun-21-10 12:03 PM |
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But, who owns the mosque? Don't members usually own such buildings? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 01:46 PM |
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No |
NoNothing |
Jun-21-10 02:47 PM |
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But.. |
girl gone mad |
Jun-21-10 03:24 PM |
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Correct, but if you go to take Communion the Priest MUST give it with one exception |
happyslug |
Jun-21-10 12:41 PM |
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Interesting! But the U.S. government does not enforce any of the |
JDPriestly |
Jun-21-10 01:33 PM |
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Technically the Catholic Church has its own Court System |
happyslug |
Jun-21-10 02:36 PM |
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Agreed. I was of course talking about civil, secular courts. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-22-10 01:15 AM |
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There are all kinds of rumors on Right wing Catholic Web sites |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 01:38 PM |
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lol!!!!!!! n/t |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 10:47 AM |
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Great ! |
UndertheOcean |
Jun-21-10 11:24 AM |
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Its hard to say what will give them better recognition? |
glowing |
Jun-21-10 11:31 AM |
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Prayer |
bpj62 |
Jun-21-10 11:37 AM |
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I would urge the Moslem women to organize their own mosque according to their own rules. |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 11:38 AM |
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Or they could go to a male strip club, really pissing off the men |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:45 AM |
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Why can't they just have their protest at the existing mosques? |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 11:46 AM |
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It comes down to a question of whose mosque is it. I'm not |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 11:50 AM |
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"they are second status" |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 11:52 AM |
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I think the women involved would say that Islam does NOT |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 12:20 PM |
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are there any women here ? |
dipsydoodle |
Jun-21-10 12:14 PM |
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Back wards religious thinking about women was part of the reason I left |
Cleita |
Jun-21-10 12:19 PM |
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If Islam is anything like the Catholic Church, men do a lot of |
hedgehog |
Jun-21-10 12:23 PM |
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Yes, and for very little if any thanks. I don't know about Islam but |
Cleita |
Jun-21-10 12:54 PM |
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Here's an interesting website I found about the history of women in Islam. |
Cleita |
Jun-21-10 01:04 PM |
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If a religion is meant to spread like a virus, but be victim to man's distortion... |
Oregone |
Jun-21-10 01:37 PM |
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Private property = None of cops' business unless a crime is being committed |
slackmaster |
Jun-21-10 01:45 PM |
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So if someone sets up camp on your front lawn is it none of the police's business? nt |
kelly1mm |
Jun-21-10 02:52 PM |
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Well, that would be a crime, no? |
girl gone mad |
Jun-21-10 03:27 PM |
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Depending on the property title it is tresspassing if they will not leave. nt |
kelly1mm |
Jun-21-10 03:47 PM |
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But since the DC cops aren't going to be removing the women anymore, trespassing isn't it. |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 05:30 PM |
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Police officers do not decide what activity is and is not a crime - judges |
kelly1mm |
Jun-21-10 06:58 PM |
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As I said, there's more to the story. That the police are not going in there anymore is key |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 07:18 PM |
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You are right, there probably is more to the story. Thanks for your thoughts. nt |
kelly1mm |
Jun-21-10 09:19 PM |
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Peace. And a belated welcome to DU. nt |
riderinthestorm |
Jun-21-10 09:24 PM |
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It's funny how the same |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-21-10 09:25 PM |
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Do you class law enforcement as government intervention? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jun-22-10 05:24 AM |
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You don't think they do? |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-22-10 07:50 AM |
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Thats good. Its not the business of the police to police to enforce religious edicts. |
D23MIURG23 |
Jun-22-10 08:50 AM |
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I'm guessing the reason the police don't want to be involved is because |
JoeyT |
Jun-22-10 10:35 AM |
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great thread! thanks for all who are posting here. |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 10:50 AM |
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Why are you posting here? |
Dr. Strange |
Jun-22-10 11:05 AM |
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doctor, doctor, give me the news |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 01:56 PM |
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Both. |
Dr. Strange |
Jun-22-10 02:21 PM |
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you know where to find me... |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 02:26 PM |
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If true that would exclude you |
TZ |
Jun-22-10 02:09 PM |
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Nice post, CreekDog. |
Dr. Strange |
Jun-22-10 02:24 PM |
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well, at least now I no longer have to ask that question... |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 02:46 PM |
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Mostly male though: |
Dr. Strange |
Jun-22-10 02:50 PM |
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epic thread n/t |
RainDog |
Jun-22-10 10:56 PM |
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According to my opinion, establishments which recieve federal funding or special tax exemptions |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-22-10 02:07 PM |
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good |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jun-22-10 02:22 PM |
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